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https://instagram.com/cardboardlamb (deleted)
https://lovesickloveletters.blogspot.com/
https://rateyourmusic.com/~lovesick (deleted)
https://letterboxd.com/heartbeat/
https://www.fragrantica.com/member/1299311/
https://www.inprnt.com/gallery/kennedi-cotarelo/
Nice. I'll add in one of her sexy purchases confirmed. You could've included depop.com/narcoticvenus
Eventually someone needs to find her new rym or last.fm. obviously she's still going to be using them under different names. The fact that her accounts have been found a few times since she tries hard to be quirky online gives me hope.
 >>/15195/
her accounts get found because she uses her name and follows her friends. there’s no more ken on rym or last fm bro. she’d be found already
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Here is /ourgirl/ Kennedis' new boyfriend.
well old, I should say, they've been "dating" for quite some time now & having sex months prior to dating officially.. rumour has it she LOVES tying herself in bondage whilst naked to surprise him! (such a good GF!!) She also enjoys being called his slut & "good girl" by him..
To add to this  >>/15204/
He is from rym and used to use /mu/ 

I don't know if I should leak his name. He recently deleted his rym lol

Why does Kennedi date guys who used to stalk her? Kinda weird huh?!
 >>/15206/
how is that weird? I didn't "obtain" this information from stalking, I posted a selfie of hers in a discord server, someone messaged me, asked me what I knew about Ken and then proceeded to tell me a lot of sensitive stuff about her. This person was probably one of her friends. 

He or She even gave me Ken's reddit account username which she deleted. along with an archive of all her posts kek. I'm tempted to post it here.

From what this person told me, Ken is still very active online and is using a different pseudonym. She isn't going anywhere, she has an internet addiction and may or may not like being "stalked"
 >>/15207/
It’s weird because of how invasive it is, whatever you call it. It doesn’t matter if you sought it out by stalking, you encouraged the info you’re dangling it all out here and want to humiliate her. She’s no saint but this is complete overkill especially for someone who never scammed or cheated anyone. The only reason you’d be doing this is because you’re a stalker with an interest in humiliating her for a sense of control. Like what has already been done here many times by schizos.
 >>/15207/
> i didn’t stalk her, i just posted all her pics in a big group and got info on her from someone so i could post it on an image board and doxx her bf and say she likes being stalked
 >>/15208/
> She’s no saint but this is complete overkill especially for someone who never scammed or cheated anyone.
she's talked a lot of shit about her ppl/friends online and I wouldn't doubt that she has cheated and/or backstabbed her friends/past SO's etc... otherwise information about her wouldn't keep getting "leaked". Anyway, you seem to be projecting an awful lot. I don't want any sense of "control" over her, if she feels like someone on an anonymous image board has some sort of "control" over her, then it's her problem lol. You, yourself are on here, wouldn't that make you a "stalker" as well?
 >>/15209/
Nice try, but her boyfriend won't get doxxed, This picture cannot be reverse image searched, the only way he would be doxxed is if someone who knew him in real life recognised him on here. 

-- Just because you two(?*) are being annoying pseudo-chivalrous clowns, I decided I'm going to post her reddit account archive in about 30 minutes lol
(*Maybe it's one guy idk*)
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As promised, here are the archived reddit posts&comments!

ken's comment archive -
https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22hubuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuh%22,%22resultSize%22:50000}

ken's post archive -
https://camas.unddit.com/#{%22author%22:%22hubuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuh%22,%22searchFor%22:1,%22resultSize%22:50000}

Deleted reddit account - https://www.reddit.com/user/hubuhbuhbuhbuhbuhbuh/

Enjoy looking through these, these comments/posts show how extremely passive aggressive, narcissistic, annoying, arrogant, a tad shrewd and very bitchy she really is. Everything from her fight with her EX, wanting to get a restraining order on him, her autistic political takes and her other EX or new boyfriend(s) porn addiction (She admits to sending nudes while not in a relationship as well!) This isn't the full story, she is still "holding back" in a sense here (obviously), the real Kennedi, at least from what I was shown seems to be worse than this.
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 >>/15214/
you're welcome. I don't think I will post more for awhile. I am clearly making these guys seethe. I posted a picture of my hand, who knows, someone might doxx me with it kek. Anyway, peace for now. Enjoy looking through all these  >>/15217/ 

PS: I'm leaving with 2 rare pics and 1 funny discord argument ken has had. 

arrivederci
 >>/15217/
This is based, and I mean her, not you. Honestly, this made me like her even more. Not only do I feel closer to her but I like that she’s so authentic. Plus I know other girls’ reddits were used for scamming and nudes. Looks hers is mostly politics and personal stuff that could already be assumed from her tumblr. Truly an autist but we already knew that, it’s her appeal. 

Fuck you schizospic, because this shouldn’t have been shared and her insane ex is probably gonna freak out, but I’m glad I got new Ken content.
 >>/15217/
nothing about these posts are bitchy or shrewd though. this makes me feel bad for her, not hate her. you’re mentally ill and calling that half assed suicide attempt by her ex a “fight” like she was complicit is batshit crazy. i cant stomach reading through all this but the stuff at the top only makes her seem vulnerable and traumatized. it’s a miracle she’s not actually crazy herself. i wonder what kind of disorder you have to have to try to convince everyone she’s evil every so often with things like this. there’s nothing here that contradicts what she’s said in public either, only things that might contradict some delusional anon’s fantasy theyve conjured up. she vows to never take nudes again and you think that’s a bad thing? you see her freaking out because she almost died and think it’s a manipulation tactic? honest to god, you need to kill yourself 

i think this is my breaking point with orbiting. i was already thinking about stopping and installing some site blockers but now i’m sure of it. it doesn’t matter that my interest is benign. posting here just encourages people like the schizospic. those posts by her are just so fucking uncomfortable and sad but this guy is only concerned with trying to make her look bad. i feel guilty and nauseous.  

BO, if you ever see my ip here again, ban me on sight. i am sorry to anyone i ever made feel uncomfortable or scared or ashamed when they didn’t deserve it
 >>/15221/
spare us your soapbox posting, he's not the schizo spic you are in love with and she was posting publicly on reddit. But I agree, the BO should ban you to help you stop posting.
 >>/15224/
Weird that she's so harsh on her boyfriend for watching porn but has no problem with publicly humiliating him by posting this on reddit. She is an awful person, no matter how you spin it.
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Today has been a good day. Kennedi has probably been stretched out and fucked by multiple men, i always knew she was a sex deprived slut. I want her even more now im so happy i checked this board today
you’re telling me a grown adult woman had sex with someone she was in love with? holy fucking shit bros….this changes everything. evil whore succubus
 >>/15224/
This mentality is so fucking retarded.
She's extremely insecure that the dude jerks off, so she has to create this strawman fantasy scenario where he's disgusted by his gf and hates her and wants to bang other women and wants to rape and abuse them and torture them grrrrrrrrr. What the fuck.
In reality, the dude just wants to jerk off in peace. It doesn't go beyond that.
Also, she says that he should've come to her when he was aroused, but I doubt she'd actually be fine with this proposal. What, is she gonna happily have sex with him every day? Maybe multiple times a day? Throughout multiple months or years? There's just no way, there's gonna be times where he wants to bang but she doesn't, but because of her inferiority complex, she wants him to suffer blue balls. OR, she does bang when she doesn't want to, and will feel bad or resent him for it.
She's so insecure she can't even let the man jerk off in peace and makes EVERYTHING about herself. I cannot imagine why one would tolerate being with a person like this. What an insufferable attitude.
 >>/15224/
 >>/15233/
The narcissism reminds me of when fat "body positivity" people see their friends lose weight, and then get mad and say "YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK LESS LIKE ME". No retard, the person losing weight has nothing to do with you, it's completely unrelated to you, it's not a purposeful directed insult towards you.
That's what I think of when I see her write shit like "You want to jerk off to women who ARENT ME, IM NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU"
 >>/15233/
> she makes EVERYTHING about herself

that's precisely the point. she's autistic as fuck and that makes her very self-centered, judgmental, conceited, and possessive. besides that, she's also sanctimonious. I can't stand people like that, they're so obnoxious.
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/Kenbros/. I'm 99% sure whoever is leaking this stuff is a part of a group of troon stalkers and ex-friends. One of Ken's troon stalker is named "Sarah" and along with a couple of her close exfriends like calderhrs are apparently leaking all this stuff. I remember "Sarah" was the first to find Kens fragrantica account and even went as far as buying the same clothes as Ken, using the same profile images and even started to like the same music as her. These troons literally want to be Kennedi. If someone can infiltrate their discord servers we can stop this harassment campaign
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Also a reminder that Ken confronted this troon before and created a google drive for screencaps of the troon copying here
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1djHq0grc1pPPcx0y_4VpmBI7gqE5h2rV
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 >>/15243/
> we can stop this harassment campaign
I can't be bothered to do that and I think nobody here should get involved, it would probably make things worse. also remember that mimicking and soft styles of stalking are quite common among autists, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case with these people. there are many things we might not be aware of, let ken sort it out for herself.
 >>/15244/
I haven’t scrolled up much because quite frankly this all disturbs me but I doubt Ken can even do anything except continue laying low.
 >>/15240/
Sarah and Orion are completely different people. I think you’re posting this in bad faith because you want to infiltrate her circles in hopes to find more things to confuse people with and post out of context, not because you actually want to help her. Pretending to be one of the good orbiters isn’t gonna get you e-crumbs.
 >>/15217/

lmao, always knew she was a pseud but browsing through shit like redscarepod, stupidpol and debatecommunism makes you a mark. just asking to get dogpiled by troons at that point.
 >>/15217/
> i don't want to watch any movie with my boyfriend anymore without vetting it first to make sure there won't be a long sex scene, or women's bodies on display for him to drool over and feel triggered by
Jesus she's a psycho
 >>/15262/
Sounds like Kennedi herself is suffering from some sort of female version of the "Madonna-Whore complex" that that one Ken orbiter always likes to accuse everyone here of having...
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 >>/15263/
Shes an autist and a radical feminist who likes Andrea Dworkin. Always has been. What did you expect? She sees porn as inherently violent and degrading and a form of infidelity. It’s not about keeping women pure, it’s about seeing porn as a hub for trafficking, rape, and violence. At this point she probably thinks all men are evil considering most people watch porn and don’t care about whatever she has to say. 
Everything I’m reading isn’t surprising in the slightest. Based on the posts she was spiraling mentally because her ex boyfriend had lied to her about it for so long. He shouldn’t have been pussyfooted enough to lie in the first place. I can’t speak for everyone here but if you’ve ever been lied to for a long time in a relationship and find out later on, you go fucking crazy. Combine that with a literal autist with radical views, yeah it makes sense she was losing her mind. Another anon (the one who essayposts most of the time) said he just wanted to jerk off in peace but that’s not the problem. Ken is anti porn to the extreme and everyone knows that. If you lie to her about porn that’s just a retarded decision that’s going to blow up in your face and sets a false precedent for a relationship or friendship. If something is that important to you, keep it and don’t lie to someone just to eventually get your car keyed to shit over it and left without any dignity. Lying is a shit move and makes anyone unhinged. 

I wonder what happened afterwards, since those posts are a year and a half old.
 >>/15269/
If I may interject, I've noticed people tend to conflate posters, which is understandable since everyone's anonymous, but take care to not create misunderstandings.
I'm pretty sure I'm the autistic essayposter you're referring to, and I am most certainly not married.
 >>/15270/
I’m talking about the redpill guy who posts memes with walls of text like clockwork, he said he’s married and even called his wife ugly and said he uses her for sex but said he’s happy with her and it’s proof of some theory he had or something.
 >>/15224/
Lol this is a goldmine. So now we know she sends nudes, she's insecure as fuck about herself to the point it affects her relationships, and the main thing that bothers her about pornography isn't the so called "exploitation" that she's whined about in the past. Her main problem is that the girl getting fucked isn't her and it makes her feel insecure. 

Thank you so much for this.
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 >>/15280/
> Her main problem is that the girl getting fucked isn't her and it makes her feel insecure
That's precisely right.
Another pattern with "anti porn" women is that they're personally into violent sex acts, and they are solipsistic, so they assume all men are as well, and thus paint all men as violent abusers who just want to maim women.
The more a woman mentions stuff like rape, and talks about how disgusted she is about it, the more likely she is to get wet over it.
 >>/15240/
"Stop this harassment campaign"?? She can just turn off her computer and shouldn't have posted so much personal info online. internet is forever. It's interesting how so many of her past friends from so many different places all end up having something bad to say about her and claim awful things shes done to them. If you've ever gotten close with her and her friends, you'll know what I mean. She even adopts different personas with different friends.

She's genuinely not a good person, she lies and twists things, and is heavily addicted to drama like every other e-girl then rps online as some sweet angel. Literally the only difference is that her nudes never leaked, so idiots view her as the last good girl. Now that the reddit has dropped, I'm closer to leaking all my  correspondences with her for the fuck of it too.

 >>/15207/
Also can confirm from our conversations that she struggles with a severe internet addiction but refuses to get help for it because she doesn't believe in therapy and psychology. About the "liking being stalked" part, she has said that she doesn't consider herself stalked and has never told any irls about it, but has admitted the attention makes her feel conflicted because she enjoys it a lot then ends up experiencing a religious/moral OCD-related guilt about "pride" and her enjoyment of being popular online.
Despite the forehead, eyebrows, and sometimes unflattering camera angles, I still jerk off to her sometimes. Even prior to this reddit stuff, I've long been pessimistic about how she presents herself online and yet despite that, my vague impressions of her in my fantasies are the same. I don't usually think about those types of things in such concrete terms but I have reflected on it in her case.

I use to long for her in that sad pathetic way I'm sure most of you have experienced at some point in your life and yet despite being over that, I can't bring myself to delete her pictures. I can intellectualize why it's a good idea all I want but something in me is afraid I won't be able to re-download them if I change my mind. Most of the reason I even come to this board is to see if new pics get posted. Hopefully these reddit leaks will help give some of you that final push you need to get away from her. My thanks go out to the anon who posted them, especially as someone who enjoys all the gossiping.

As for myself I don't know. I've been in real relationships and I'd wager you'd never guess I'd be the type to frequent a board like this if you met me irl. That being said, I can't get away from Ken completely. I'll admit that there was a time she occupied a lot of my thoughts but that was only briefly. If you're in the same boat as me then I hope that continuing to indulge in this community doesn't corrupt something we can't get back.
 >>/15284/
If you want my advice, I say it's fine to keep the pics and jerk off, but you should slow down or preferably stop indulging in gossip, as that's retarded and likely has a negative impact on your mental health.
Just come on from time to time to see if there are new pics, like you said.
 >>/15284/
>  I've been in real relationships
But not anymore. You still cling to those picture because you made Kennedi a totem that represents the figure of the girlfriend. If you met a real girl who made you feel real love again those picture would quickly lose their meaning and value. It's not Kennedi herself who is special, it's what her images represent for you. 
I have a totem too, but it's not Kennedi, it's a random girl I saw for a few seconds while walking outside back in 2019.
 >>/15267/
> He shouldn’t have been pussyfooted enough to lie in the first place
Yes, but that was just the first mistake. 
The second was enabling her obsession and allowing her to define him as a porn addict in need of recovery, and the third one was expressing guilt and shame over what he did. That guy was never once in control of the relationship, he just bent to all her whims without standing for himself. 
No wonder it didn't last.
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 >>/15286/
Are you dense? Once you get approved for SSI you don't get off of it a couple years later. It's ridiculously difficult to get approved in the first place. and in Kens case, she'd need to have been evaluated and considered completely unable to work due to mental illness. the process likely took multiple denials and a year of waiting to even get approved. If you have proof that she's employed then post it. Because according to her she's "disabled" and doesn't work

She even talks about how "even high functioning autistic people are given disability money due to not being able to function in the workplace"

SSI is different than SSDI. She's on SSI and won't be returning to work.
 >>/15294/
how convenient for her to see autism as a disability when it comes to get benefits she can spend on perfume. I'm trying to remember something I read long ago where she was talking about autism in a very different and almost boastful way. maybe it was in relation to John Maus... do some of you ken stans remember?
in any case, I'm kinda pleased that the consensus on 'beautiful angel ken' is steadily crumbling, a nice binge on humble pie would do her good
 >>/15267/
The reasons she herself gives for being so vehemently anti-pornography, namely that it and the "industry" that produces it are "degrading and abusive" and perpetuate "violence and misogyny" against women, all seem like post-hoc rationalizations to justify things she already believed, but can't or doesn't want to accept her own reasoning for. Reading some of those posts, how neurotic and obsessive and extreme they are, how visceral her feelings of disgust are, it's hard not to get the impression that there's a religious, puritanical aspect to her views on pornography, along with what seems to be some degree of simple inesecurity and feelings of inadequacy. But it's as if she doesn't view this as legitimate or doesn't want to view herself in this way so she's constructed this "feminist" narrative to justify herself. It feels like an intellectualization of what are innate, deeply held, irrational feelings that she has. Very often people's stated reasons for their beliefs and actions are not their actual reasons, and they may not even be aware of this themselves, as it frequently operates on a subconscious level.

She may well be a "feminist" but some of the things she expresses, and the degree with which she's obsessed with this topic, go far beyond that. There are many things in this world that are unethical and harmful, but she has taken pornography as one of her primary, and most fervent, interests. Why? In one of her posts she states that she "nearly collapsed" and "could hardly speak" on finding out her boyfriend had viewed pornography; even for someone who views pornography as "unethical" this is an extreme reaction. At several points she expresses being triggered by the mere suggestion of sexuality, or even by completely innocuous things that she has somehow come to associate with pornography in her mind. She believes pornography is "everywhere". She feels extreme discomfort with her boyfriend even seeing any sort of nudity in a film; this ties back in with her feelings of inadequacy. The idea of her boyfriend seeing other women is unbearable to her, and she feels the need to ascribe a moral dimension to this. She imagines how he is "visually dismembering", objectifying, these women in his mind's eye. She imputes bad motives onto him with little justification; they exist, have been conjured up, almost entirely in her own head. For her, for him simply to see another woman is immoral. It seems a lot like she's projecting her own sexual neuroses and guilt onto others and, by criticizing, by castigating them so vociferously and harshly, she is, in a way, beatifying herself, and expiating, as it were, her own "sins", so to speak. It's as if she has a desperate need to convince herself of her own moral rectitude and purity and to accomplish this she needs for others to be immoral and impure for her to react against.

I also get the sense that a lot of her views may be rooted in a generalized misandy which is itelf likely born from the internalized misogyny that she feels. Many of the "misogynistic" views and thought processes she attributes to men regarding women don't actually exist in the male mind; they are her own creations, her own feelings, her own ways of thinking. But she projects these onto men nonetheless and as such many of her posts evince a thinly veiled disdain for men in general which is hard not to pick up on. It seems that, to her, there is inherently something "wrong" or "immoral" about male sexuality that needs to be suppressed or "corrected", and this is largely due to the "misogynistic" views that she herself has imputed onto them, and which are really her own.

By the way, when I said that she had a sort of female version of a madonna-whore complex, I didn't mean that she wanted to keep women pure; I was, rather, referring to the fact that she views men who have viewed pornography at any point to be permanently "tainted" in some way.
 >>/15299/
> Many of the "misogynistic" views and thought processes she attributes to men regarding women don't actually exist in the male mind

I felt I needed to point out that misogyny is a real thing. I mean, just take this fucking board, no need to look further. but yeah, ken is neurotic, you don't need to gaslight her (because that's what you're doing) in order to prove it.
 >>/15299/
Massive respect for this 10/10 analysis. Factual and well written. I will deeply study these points, I really think you nailed the thought processes at work here.
Deep insecurity, solipsism and projection, condemnation of others, and rationalizations of one's own beliefs.
Now that you mention it, I have noticed a pattern in feminism of them thinking they're being "sinful", and then going out of their way to act as authorities on morality and virtue:
There's also the theme of applying morality to amoral things. Like how people with eating disorders categorize food as (morally) "good" or "bad", and are harsh on themselves for consuming "bad" food.
What an extremely insightful perspective. You should post more often, especially these longform analyses. Please unironically share your knowledge with us. I learned a lot from just this post.
 >>/15301/
If I may edificate, and I may be mistaken, but I believe he was referring to how ken (and I'll add: also many anti-porn women) think that men commonly consume violent porn, and get off on harming and humiliating women and overall "hating" women for a sexual thrill.
In reality, these types of men are an tiny minority and these tastes are extremely admonished.
And I'll add: In reality, it's moreso women who have these kinds of fantasies, like being choked, slapped, insulted, spat on, spanked, humiliated, stuff like that. As well as things like rapeplay, bdsm.
The point being, men don't actually think of shit like this, but she is aggressively forcing the idea that men do think that way and have those tastes.
See also the pic in this post for reference  >>/15281/
 >>/15299/
Youre completely right. It goes much beyond simply being a feminist or thinking pornography is exploitation for her. Her posts come off batshit insane, she seems like she was even abusive in one of her relationships due to her obsessions and insecurity. She posted about how she forced her boyfriend to give his laptop, hard drives, all for her to look at every single thing he does to make sure he's not lying and doesnt have porn. And she said she found nothing. If that type of control in a relationship were exerted toward to a woman, people would be screaming abuse. Then in another post she even admits to watching lesbian porn but since it was a "compulsion" apart of her condition shes somehow exempt from participating in the exploitation? Many of her porn issues start with things about being insecure, the women being someone other than her, it bothering her that her boyfriend would look at porn instead of her own nudes, etc. Then she turns it into some type of feminist positioning meanwhile her other posts are about her "body dysmorphic disorder", how she starves herself, and how mentally ill and insecure she is. She's just a self hating hypocrtical wackjob. And she can't hide it anymore.
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It's funny(sad) how out of all the shit she listed, her insecurity/jealousy over the women not being her is what tops the list. She really couldn't get it out of her head that her boyfriend didn't like her nudes enough to use it as his only fap material.
 >>/15304/
> many anti-porn women think that men...
> In reality, it's moreso women who have these kinds of fantasies

do you have any statistics? otherwise it might very well seem that you guys are talking out of your asses, and we don't want that, do we?
that's why I'm not so enthustiastic about  >>/15299/. it's very well written and convincing, the arguments are credible according to what we know about kennedi; yet, this kind of psychonalyzing is very susceptible of getting hijacked in a place like this, so it instantly becomes an excuse to thrash any feminist stance or any criticism of porn. but what affects the mind of one person cannot be used to automatically discredit a whole set of ideas. no matter how sophisticated your arguments are, if in the end you resort to this kind of lazy generalization what you're saying turns out to be very dumb or dishonest.
 >>/15305/
> If that type of control in a relationship were exerted toward to a woman, people would be screaming abuse
I was thinking something like that too.
Also, think about it, would a man exhibiting ken's exacct behavior have people calling him "angel" and shit like that? Probably not.
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 >>/15307/
I do not have any statistics, but I do have many screenshots of women who are anti porn immediately jumping to mentioning stuff like "hardcore" porn, to the point where it's a pattern. And I have my word that I've personally witnessed these posts, of course.
Regarding the part about women's fantasies, it's also another pattern I've noticed over the years. ie every time I've heard those kinds of fantasies being mentioned, a great majority of times it was a woman speaking. Look at pic related for an example.
> excuse to thrash any feminist stance
No disrespect, but I've been in this "feminist vs antifeminist" loop for over a decade now, and I am yet to see even one feminist stance that isn't immediately proven wrong. All of their points have been debunked for years now, yet they keep repeating them.
I'd actually welcome some intellectual discussions on feminist topics, but sadly they are the type to block\ban\silence anyone who disagrees. That's probably why they keep repeating long-debunked points.
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 >>/15304/
just shows the thoughts of a wishful fetishist who actually thinks that anti-porn women want violence toward them. In reality the women who actually do like violent sex.. every single one of them was diddled by their uncle, or grew up in some fucked household where they saw violence. It's actually not as common outside of the internet. I'm sure some "healthy" women got memed into thinking bdsm is normal due to popular culture, but irl women dont actually want to be slapped and spit on. Outside of the porn centric internet realms you'll find the occasional hookup who likes getting choked during sex, but at the same time, most people who do autoerotic asphyxiation are male so its not that women are inherently more inclined toward wanting to not breathe so they can cum

 >>/15299/ is still for the most part right, specifically about Ken. We can read all her absurd rants about it and have a glimpse into how she treats the men in her personal life, so it's easier to draw accurate conclusions about her behaviors toward the subject. It seems like a fair evaluation given everything shes written
 >>/15311/
> anti-porn women want violence toward them
I'm not saying they do, I'm saying they get off on the idea.  Don't you think it's fucking odd how when discussing the topic of anti-porn, they instantly go to the absolute extremes of "hardcore"?
> In reality the women who actually do like violent sex.. every single one of them was diddled by their uncle, or grew up in some fucked household where they saw violence
Correct. And I daresay there's a connection between women who were sexually abused, and women who are hysterically anti-porn. Or misandric for that matter.
 >>/15217/
> Enjoy looking through these, these comments/posts show how extremely passive aggressive, narcissistic, annoying, arrogant, a tad shrewd and very bitchy she really is.
I don't care about any of that.
I just want to fuck her petite body.
Wish she sent those nudes to me, not that I ever talked with her though.
 >>/15224/
When I was with my ex, but couldn't be with her while I was horny, I'd specifically search out porn actresses looking like her.

And then I would do the same again when I broke up with her, because my cock still demanded her.

Were they in a LDR? Because it sure sounds like it.

 >>/15227/
People post anonymously on reddit all the time and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

 >>/15233/
> there's gonna be times where he wants to bang but she doesn't, but because of her inferiority complex, she wants him to suffer blue balls. OR, she does bang when she doesn't want to, and will feel bad or resent him for it.
At least partially true, yeah.
I guess she wanted him to use pics of her, though I imagine most dudes do at least occasionally fap to other women, even relatively early on in a relationship.

 >>/15240/
 >>/15243/
Always amazing how people spend actual time with this shit.

 >>/15283/
What's she now? 23 to 25 something, right?
She's obviously pretty and not completely braindead (despited diagnosed autistic), so how does she not have any source of income or "a provider" for the lack of a better word?
What does she do all day??

 >>/15280/
> and the main thing that bothers her about pornography isn't the so called "exploitation"
To be fair, those posts were made in relation to her bf/ex/whatever. They don't say anything about her general opinion about porn.
That being said, I wonder if she'd be alright with getting recorded while fucking.

 >>/15282/
> I'm closer to leaking all my correspondences with her for the fuck of it too.
Only interested if they have nudes or at least lewds.

 >>/15284/
I find her very hot since she's so slender and has a pretty face, but none of the pics were good enough for me so far. What pics do you fap to? Because I honestly think they're all way too tame.

> I've been in real relationships and I'd wager you'd never guess I'd be the type to frequent a board like this if you met me irl.
I pretty much come here and similar places more often after a breakup or something similar. lmao
Mine was about two months ago, how about you?
 >>/15314/
Cool to know at least that she does take nudes, since for years so many people said she's "not that type of girl". But really she is and her boyfriend just wasn't the type of guy to leak. She did make a reddit post saying that she gets off on people not knowing what the curves of her body look like tho. So we will never see
 >>/15327/
> not knowing what the curves of her body look like
I think it's pretty obvious she's rather slim and doesn't have "much curves".
But that's fine, I find her being delicate pretty hot.
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 >>/15316/
She's around 24 by now yeah. About the income and what she does all day, she probably just goes online under different usernames given she's admitted to internet addiction and has been online since age 7. That and shitting herself over perfume, obsessing over how evil porn is, and having mental breakdowns. In a completely unrelated reddit discussion she randomly threw in a humblebrag about having a millionaire male friend of hers who offers to pay her bills and offers to give her somewhere to live. So shes getting her SSI payments and also having that man or some boyfriend give her more money under the table. With all the perfume and clothing she buys, she isn't fooling anyone saying she only had $90 a month to spare "for food and pads" after rent. But maybe she uses that as a pity story to get people to send her even more funds over the internet too. She could have multiple things going. Since she has OCD and panics about being a pedrophile, a lesbian, and evil, and she picks at her skin, the US government has deemed her unable to work.

She probably doesn't actually do much. I know she's been to some concerts once things reopened, but in reality pic attached was only 2 years ago and by the looks of her posts, ever since 2018 she just repeatedly does acid, ketamine, shrooms, dmt, dxm & research chemicals then swears its helping her OCD and anxiety. If her only treatment is getting high in her room she probably hasn't advanced as much as some people would like to admit. I know she moved out, but realistically any real changes would take much more time given her mental illness and drug problems. 

Her brief stint back on Instagram didnt seem authentic. seemed more like "look guys I'm normal now I have friends I swear" thinking it would get people to leave her alone, but it didn't work.
 >>/15329/
She was the one who used the words "curves of my body". I agree she doesnt have curves and looks good slender. from her posts its shown she also admits to starving herself and having an eating disorder despite kenbros saying for the past 5 years that she's "naturally skinny" and "doesnt have an eating disorder". She looks great and I hope she doesn't grow out of the anorexia thing.
 >>/15301/
Nowhere did I deny that misogyny is a "real thing". The fact that misogyny itself may exist, somewhere, among some men (or women), does not mean that every claimed instance or example of it is real or valid. And many of her claims are not based on things that men have actually said or done, any views they've actually expressed, how they actually behave or treat women, but rather what she imagines is in their mind, and which she can, of course, not actually know. She attributes malicious thoughts and intentions to them on the basis of nothing but her fantasies, even though, in many cases, they've indicated that they hold views regarding women that completely contradict this. To her, men are misogynists a priori, and all of their thoughts and actions, no matter how innocuous or harmless, are informed by that misogyny. (In a way, this could almost be likened to the concept of Original Sin, by which she believes men are inherently guilty, through no volition of their own, which brings us back to her religious way of thinking). But if these views or thought processes she attributes to men do not come from actual examples of men expressing these views, necessarily they must spring from her own mind, there being no other source. As I said, these are her own thoughts and feelings about women that she then projects onto men themselves. These thoughts are so deeply ingrained in her own mind and in her own feelings about women, that she assumes men must think this way as well, even without any evidence to that effect.

Of course, this is all just my opinion.
 >>/15303/
In general I struggle immensely to articulate or express anything and don't view myself as a particularly insightful person, so I truly appreciate the kind words, and I'm glad you got something out of my post. I don't know what came over me to write it. I didn't originally set out to write such a lengthy post but I got a little carried away. Maybe I'll post more in a similar vein when or if the inspiration strikes me.
 >>/15304/
Yes, I think that's certainly part of what I was getting at, these may be the types of ideas/fantasies which exist in her own mind, are her own creation; it's like she herself views women as objects, something to be degraded and abused, something to be used solely for sexual pleasure and nothing more, something without agency, inferior in a way, and she then projects these views onto men, possibly as a way of relieving guilt, and then hates them for it, unable or unwilling to imagine that they do not actually harbor these views. How she believes men think about women is actually how she thinks about women. 
 >>/15306/
Her insecurity and feelings of inadequacy definitely seem to be her primary issue in that post, but it's as if she doesn't want to entirely admit this about herself, or as if she believes this to be irrational, that this in itself isn't enough to justify such an extreme reaction on her part, so she has to adduce this part about the "objectification" of women to give her sentiments some moral weight and justification. Some of the other things she mentions in that post seem to attest again to her general discomfort with sexuality in general. Her usage of the word "evil" here also reinforces the fact that there is a religious aspect to her views.

I'm getting a message is too long error so I have to split this post up a little.
 >>/15307/
For my part, my post was really only, and specifically, about Kennedi. Whether it applies to any other women in whole or part I make no claims. I'm not even necessarily anti-feminist, nor do I believe that all criticisms of pornography are illegitimate, even some of the ones that Kennedi herself espouses. It just seems, to me at least, that much of Kennedi's expressed views on the topic are hypocritical and made in bad-faith, and that what she states are her primary reasons for being so adamently anti-porn are not, in fact, the actual reasons, which have more to do with her own neuroses. That's all. I don't even necessarily think she's wrong to have a problem with her boyfriend watching pornography while in a relationship with her, but her jumping straight to "he's an evil misogynistic pervert who hates women and wants to rape and abuse them" is a little excessive.
> Her insecurity and feelings of inadequacy definitely seem to be her primary issue in that post, but it's as if she doesn't want to entirely admit this about herself, or as if she believes this to be irrational, that this in itself isn't enough to justify such an extreme reaction on her part, so she has to adduce this part about the "objectification" of women to give her sentiments some moral weight and justification. Some of the other things she mentions in that post seem to attest again to her general discomfort with sexuality in general. Her usage of the word "evil" here also reinforces the fact that there is a religious aspect to her views.

Yep. This is the primary thing with her problem with porn. She talks about having a high libido in some of her comments but feeling intense guilt over her sexual thoughts, and being extremely insecure, fixated with her appearance, etc. So when she gets such an extreme reaction to the feelings of being rejected in place of porn, hating herself and being insecure, feeling like not enough for her partners, her mind finds a bizarre OCD way to justify and rationalize such an extreme anger and discomfort. Because her reaction isnt healthy and it would be uncomfortable to accept, instead she blames everyone else as evil.
 >>/15240/
Admitted samefag but I've been wondering who this is. There's no Twitter user under the name @midi39319622 so that screenshot must be old. And the rateyourmusic profile in their Twitter bio hasn't been logged into for awhile. Who's this person in relation to Kennedi? Would they have any more dirt on her? Or at the very least, can someone give more context?
 >>/15304/
Hard to say if it's a "tiny minority" and also what one should define as a "tiny minority".
I think it's certainly more common with the people she interacts with online.

Does Ken come from a highly conservative family/background?
It's not rare to have women with a fucked up upbringing like that having a disturbed relationship with sexuality.
Of course, some people are just fucked.

 >>/15332/
> How she believes men think about women is actually how she thinks about women.
That reminds me of that utterly mentally deranged "vore" MILF who has been posting recently on /r9k/.

 >>/15332/
> The fact that misogyny itself may exist,
There was no reason to add that "may".

 >>/15334/
> She talks about having a high libido in some of her comments but feeling intense guilt over her sexual thoughts
Bitch definitely needs therapy, even if she "doesn't believe in it".
Everything here and in her own comments is text-book fucked up relationship with sexuality.
 >>/15341/
> Bitch definitely needs therapy
Nobody needs therapy. Stop blindly chasing this retarded new meme. You are being indoctrinated by the internet.
 >>/15341/
> Does Ken come from a highly conservative family/background?
she claimed somewhere to have been raised in a religious household. on the other hand, isn't her dad some sort of schizo weed king slacker? depends on when the breakup occurred i suppose, her stepfather might be a crew-cut hardass
from her posts, her mother seems like a cold hag out of some 19th century novel, but i think it may stem from the fact that she is completely unable (and she knows this) to comfort/help/understand her deranged autistic wreck of a child in any way, not in a million years, so instead she has put up a "strict", detached front and commanded her to walk a firm straight line in the hope that ken will bump into its narrow corridors enough to develop "normal" behavior out of sheer trial and error. this seems to have failed rather spectacularly (a common frustration between non-internet generations and the ones that were born on it), and the relationship between mother and daughter is beyond healing. the bit about her finding ken's sketches and dragging her to school to ask the teachers if they found them weird as well must've been absolutely mortifying
 >>/15348/
> the bit about her finding ken's sketches and dragging her to school to ask the teachers if they found them weird as well must've been absolutely mortifying
Mothers fucking up at school with their (to-be) e-girl daughters seems to be a common thing.
I know at least two others who had that happen to them.
 >>/15339/
The schizospic’s info and screenshots are all a weird attempt at framing random people she knows to make her paranoid. It never adds up and he always blames a new set of people in the same way when he posts, calling them trannies.
 >>/15333/
> I don't even necessarily think she's wrong to have a problem with her boyfriend watching pornography while in a relationship with her, but her jumping straight to "he's an evil misogynistic pervert who hates women and wants to rape and abuse them" is a little excessive.
I think it’s fair to assume she wouldn’t have reacted in such a harsh way if she hadn’t been lied to by him about it for so long. Being lied to and finding that out will make you go off the wall. And according to these posts she has sexual trauma, on top of the other things that happened with her ex. It seems like she was extremely unstable for a while after everything that happened with her ex and became deeply distrustful of men, more than she ever was. I hope she’s better with that now but who knows. I think she’s always been sincere when she talked about hating pornography because she thinks it’s violence against women but the insecurity on display in those posts is pathological and reminds me of the girls I’ve known who got raped.
 >>/15334/
Samefagging but this is right on the money. She’s an obvious case of OCD and PTSD, and porn was one of her neurosis triggers to begin with, because if she’s to be believed she’s had friends who did porn and prostituted and got hurt. If she really was sexually assaulted, and we know for a fact she almost died because of her ex, her reaction makes sense in the place and time it happened. I just really hope she actually did recognize it as unhealthy, without considering everything about herself to be crazy, and went to therapy. Because this is no way to live. 
But I really can’t stress enough that this is an obvious product of the OCD and PTSD brain, and if I had to guess she calmed down a month later and feels embarrassed of blaming herself for it.
 >>/15330/
The timeline is interesting, she got on SSI after everything with her ex then mentioned men with money, I’m gonna assume she was only on SSI for a short period of time before moving in with someone.
 >>/15282/
My last post for now, to be honest it sounds like you knew her years ago and are obsessed with making her look evil just like the schizospic because you got burned in some way. Most posts besides the porn one here are from years ago, those screencaps from discord also look extremely old. She also hasn’t talked about being addicted to the internet or experimenting with drugs since probably 2018. And 2019-2020 is when she was reeling from PTSD so I can’t say I blame her for (hopefully temporarily) being so unhinged. She’s fine, but wacky, neurotic, and prone to ghosting people unprompted.
 >>/15355/
Wait I lied this is my last post for now. I just remembered that one of her perfume blog posts made it seem like she has finally let go of the good and evil thinking anyway and had a healthier relationship to sexuality.

As for “her friends” leaking things, I don’t know how you can’t tell this is all coming from the same source over and over again who’s getting things from multiple years ago. Her friends are equally as neurotic and feminist as she is, not a single one of them isn’t a commie either, and she’s had the same small group of friends for a long time as far as I can tell.
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FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK IT!!!!! FUCK IT!!!!!

Since an anon here leaked her reddit account along with some spicy details, I have decided I will leak some stuff I've been hoarding for awhile. It's only fair.

I will make this as simple as possible. These screenshots I'm going to post have to do a particular incident that happened between Marky and Kennedi. Before I begin I will remind you all that KENNEDI ABSOUTELY HATES MARKY, she may play it off as if she doesn't but SHE HATES MARKY. 

We begin with what caused this friction and hate, it was a boy. A guy named Andrei, who went by the online moniker "Desuwa". He was a Russian MILLIONAIRE who was simultaneously flirting and speaking to both Marky and Kennedi. Eventually one day, Desuwa flew all the way from Europe to US. He first went to visit Marky, he didn't tell Kennedi about this though. He was there for about 4 days, him and Marky had sex over 10 times during that short period. After those 4 days he made an excuse have to go home, but instead of going home he went to Kennedis state, North Carolina. 

When he arrived he gifted Kennedi a gift over $10,000, Kennedi didn't know at the time. They supposedly hung out, "kissed" and "hugged", Kennedi's friend "ekat" who I will get to in a second said that Kennedi says she didn't have sex with him (screenshot included) but Desuwa himself stated that they had sex twice in an Airbnb He rented. Desuwa was only there for about 2 days, because Kennedi had a meltdown and was furious at him, why would she be? She found he met Marky but he didn't tell her that they had sex, he said he just hung out with her. However now seeing Kennedi reddit posts, it makes perfect sense, even if they didn't have sex Kennedi probably felt as if him seeing Marky first meant she wasn't good enough. Desuwa immediately left home the same night. 

Upon arriving home, Desuwa made up lies about Kennedi to Marky and vice Versa, Marky confronted Kennedi about this and they had a huge argument. Eventually Kennedi found about what him and Marky did but Marky didn't find out about what happened between Desuwa and Kennedi. 

Kennedi told this to a few people, one of them was a 3rd party named eKat who was a Russian/Polish? r9k girl who was friends with everyone involved (MARKY, KENNEDI, and ANDREI) 

I will try to post 3 sets of screenshots in the best chronological order I can. I know my  writing is bad and lazy but enjoy.

FIRST SET OF SCREENSHOTS SET WILL BE WHEN KENNEDI MET ANDREI/DESUWA
SECOND SET OF SCREENSHOTS WILL BE MARKY AND KENNEDI "BEFRIENDING" EACH OTHER BUT WILL ALSO SHOW HOW KENNEDI TALKED SHIT AND GOSSIPED ABOUT MARKY LONG AFTER THIS EVENT WAS OVER
THIRD WILL BE MISCELLANEOUS STUFF KENNEDI AND EKAT HAVE SAID TO EACH OTHER.

PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
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OKAY I FUCKED UP HERE  >>/15357/


didn't realized I could only post 5 screenshots at once. Here at the rest of the first SET OF sscreenshots.



PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ THE SCREENSHOT FILE NAMES!!!!!!!!!!
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MORE OF THE SECOND SET KENNEDI TALKING SHIT ABOUT MARKY LATER ON

MONTHS LATER KENNEDI ALSO TALKS TO A GUY WHO IS MAKING FUN OF MARKY FOR HAVING SEX WITH ANOTHER GUY SHE MET ON DISCORD, APPARENLY MARKY HAS HAD 15+ SEXUAL PARTNERS.

KENNEDI PUT THESE SCREENSHOTS IN A SERVER TO LAUGH AT MARKY SHE ALSO LAUGHED AT MARKY LETTING ANY GUY WHO VOICE CHATS WITH HER GETTING A CHANCE TO SLEEP WITH HER
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MORE OF THE THIRD SET OF SCREENSHOTS 
EKAT WAS ALSO HAD A CRUSH ON ANDREI THEY PROBABLY FUCKED BUT HER IS EKAT SAYING SHE WOULDN'T FUCK ANDREI BECAUSE SHE IS FRIEND WITH KEN AND KNOWS THAT KEN LIKES HIM

ALSO A BONUS SCREENSHOT OF WHEN KEN FOUND OUT IN REAL TIME DESU/ANDREI FUCKED MARKYS BRAINS OUT KEK
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HERE ARE THE FINAL SCREENSHOTS
RANDOM CHATS WIH DESUWA AND KEN TALKING ABOUT SEX AGAIN

She would block him and unblock constantly kek. She was attracted to him and I'm willing to bet he fucked her right after fucking Marky. There's no way they just kissed kek
tl;dr

I automatically ignore anybody who writes in all caps, since anything they might have to say is automatically of no value.
Stop being so insanely obnoxious, you mong.
 >>/15367/
It basically just says that millionaire guy pumped and dumped her and other girls. We all know this happens everyday, it's nothing new.
 >>/15369/
At least they hopefully got some good money out of it, otherwise it probably was a waste of time for them.
Though, judging how Ken claims to be poor, I guess not...
 >>/15347/
> dude you don't get it, you will never achieve true happiness unless you reveal all your inmost secrets to this newly invented state-funded agent who directly benefits from your discontent
 >>/15372/
she's known to lie, the guy probably did fuck her. Kennedi seems to only fuck with feelings are involved, wonder how many guys she was talking to before she got a BF
the tarty little autodidact shut-in was some rich russian's fuck toy all along. kenheads will never recover from this massive L

what was the gift, jewelry?
 >>/15379/
She wasn't there. 
A millionaire doesn't cross the globe to meet a girl just to give her a high five and go for a walk together. 
He was there for the pussy, and if a rich and powerful man wants the pussy he will have it.
 >>/15352/
> hating pornography because she thinks it’s violence against women
This argument never made sense to me because "violent" porn is like 1% of all porn. I could understand hating that genre, but hating the entirety of porn is just retarded.
Of course, I'm trying to apply logical thought to a hatred that's almost certainly just emotional rationalizations.
 >>/15383/
The rise of onlyfans alone makes her argument impossible to take seriously. 
Women don't need to be tricked by shady jews to degrade themselves on video, they're more than willing to do it in perfect autonomy. Even if the industry was completely in their hands there would still be no shortage of violent or fetishistic content. 
She can blame society all she wants, but in the end it's women who make the call.
 >>/15357/
 >>/15359/
Wow, just from the conversations, these people seem extremely insufferable to be around, holy shit. They sound like 12yos on 2010 Tumblr.
Also, kennedi the communist got 10k, do you guys think she gave it all to a charity, or do you think she pocketed it and contributed to capitalism by buying stuff for herself?
 >>/15385/
Onlyfans and women degrading themselves on their own perfectly mirrors Ken and this Andrei situation. Even after being told all the horrible shit he did, she was still his “friend” hoping to get some dick and money. All these e-whores are the same.
 >>/15373/
> Kennedi seems to only fuck with feelings are involved
What a coincidence that she "got feelings" for a millionaire guy. What are the chances!
 >>/15378/
Notice how differently she treats men.
To the bf, she effectively harasses him, mentally fucks him up, manipulates him, and gives him blue balls.
To the rich guy, he can do all sorts of fucked up things to her and others, but she'll fuck him upon first meeting him.
How very odd. I guess her claimed morals go out the window when a man with money or a chad shows up.
 >>/15385/
I guess it just goes to show that women's alleged morals and values instantly go out the window as soon as there's money involved.
And don't even get me started on the "Girls Do Porn" situation.
 >>/15366/
Wow this guy is kinda based.
> that's mens fault
Of course, to her, she can attention whore all she wants, but if men pay her attention, suddenly it's men's fault.
> you dress like a slut in denial
> i think wow she would be a pain
The dude nailed it on both fronts, amazing.
>  >>>>>>>>>>/both/ ken and ekat like to be violently dominated by aggressive men in rough sex
Shoutout to that anon who wanted statistics, here's your statistics right fucking here, and my theory is confirmed once again.
The vehemently anti-porn woman is actually into being roughed up in bed.
Not to mention her literally banging a rich stranger for money
The anti porn woman effectively prostituted herself, you CANNOT make this shit up. HAHAHAHA
 >>/15373/
That sounds a bit like you're saying if what she says fits your opinion, she tells the truth.
But any other time, she's lying.

 >>/15382/
Well, in one case the father was abusive towards the mother and daughter. In which case I'd call him the source of the misery.
 >>/15359/
> i wanna be his fuckdoll
> im disappointed u didnt fuck him tbh
This "ekat" person is completely mentally deranged and unhinged.
Really sad, but that person seems completely broken.

 >>/15360/
> and now hes trying to find another girl... russian... weird
> russian artist girl
Huh...

> forced me to watch forbidden
How they normalize being around people like that is utterly fantastical to me.

> sam was desperate to marry me at the time
HUH...

I'm surprised Marky realized anything at all after that shitshow.
Good for her, but my goodness how do you get out of that after all that stuff!? I guess you never really completely do and you'll always be damaged to a degree.
 >>/15357/
> Kennedi told this to a few people, one of them was a 3rd party named eKat who was a Russian/Polish? r9k girl who was friends with everyone involved (MARKY, KENNEDI, and ANDREI) 
If this is who I think it is, then that was mostly an act by this "ekat".
Is there a picture of this person??? As in, 100 percent sure picutre of her, like from a video call or something?
What time zone are these pictures taken in? Can you look up when some of these "Today" and "Yesterday" posts were?
i wish i had the strength to stay away. i don’t know why y people are shocked she said things about marky when ekat and the russian guy were telling her lies about marky and saying marky was lying about her and vice versa. she made a list of the lies they told both of them about each other and posted it once. i don’t have it on me right now but it’s been posted before. they followed each other on instagram so it’s obvious there’s no bad blood
 >>/15402/
nothing ekat says can be taken at face value since she lives solely to layer larp over larp and fake screenshots. people have ip grabbed her before, and it showed up as ukraine every time, not kazakhstan or russia like she claims. she's still around in some discord circles

never talked to the desuwa guy, but afaik he's a french/russian guy who was in the states illegally after overstaying his phd visa, got involved in this drama circle, lied to both girls about literally everything, and then randomly got spooked or felt guilty and vanished back to russia. i don't think he ever fucked ken, only marky, and seems to have genuinely only cared about marky too. this was like 3 years ago, they may all be friends again for all i know...
 >>/15418/
Do you have any contact for him or ekat? His discord is nuked and he isn’t responding to his old desuwadaze gmail
Last spoke to him back in 2019 when we were both in Marky’s manic episode server.
He helped me get some IT certs and was overall the most educated guy I’ve chatted with so it would be nice if he’s still around
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 >>/15366/
Wow, so of course she's a kinkster who plays coy publicly. discusses her sex life in semi public discord chats, fucked a millionaire for money, talks about being submissive & liking dominant men. That last part is normal but not getting off on discussing all of it with other women who also slept with him, very kinky. So much for all her frantic posts about "only being sexual with people shes in love with".Then on public she whines about being against porn despite sending nudes, whines about prostitution despite herself participating in sugar daddy transactions? Glad there's finally some proof to all this shit. 

Where are the rest of these conversations though? 

 >>/15357/ she's talking about bloodplay during sex and how men think shes uwu so young??

Clearly she likes being percieved as underage since she talks about it so much. She even admitted she ties her value with innocence and youthfulness and has implied through about a dozen reddit posts that wanting a childlike body plays a role in her anorexia as well.

 >>/15359/
Also, what was the $10,000 gift?Surely you know.
 >>/15421/
Well I remember being 8 or so and looking up a female anime character's weight and trying to diet because I wasn't quite there lol. I definitely think this is more common among girls than you'd think
 >>/15428/
I'm not the person who starved themselves because of anime, but Ken befriends a lot of egirls/etroons so it's not surprising. Just Look at this thread. Marky and whatever the fuck "ekat", and troons who turned on her. It just keeps happening.
 >>/15419/
sorry anon, you probably know more than i do. 

i'd try reaching marky, i remember they were really close and knew each other for many years before this drama, so i wouldn't be surprised if they made amends and still talk
 >>/15428/
This may be a bit cynical, but my first instinct is that ken has many female\troon followers because she's a horrible person, and women/trains seem to always gravitate towards horrible people.
This isn't even h8, just the truth.
 >>/15435/
 >>/15436/
I'm a bit younger than her. she seems really down to earth  insightful and intelligent. she seems supportive of her friends and treats them with kindness.
what makes her a "horrible person" exactly? I read the screens. I expected her to sound a lot worse due to the reactions ITT. she even said she never did anything inappropriate with that Andrei dude. She smoothed things over with Marky (issues that seemed to come from a misunderstanding). and she accepted an expensive gift (and was hesitant about receiving it after she found out how expensive it was), but there doesnt seem to be any sexual involvement from her side/sugardaddy stuff. she still says she won't do anything with anyone she doesn't love. (though I'm against premarital seggs personally) seems that people are exaggerating or just outright lying to make her appear worse, correct me if I'm wrong though.
 >>/15437/
People are dunking on her because they've met and interacted with dozens of "types" like her before over the years, and they know they tend to be shitty people. They know that she's the type of person to make a problem out of everything.
For example, things like communism, pretentiousness, attention whoring, being anti porn, and misandry, are all red flags that suggest that she's insufferable to be around, and every single interaction with her would be a fucking headache. And lo and behold, the leaked chats and posts confirm this too.
She's the type of person who normal people stay away from, and the only people who stay around her are equally insufferable people who only use her because they have something to gain from the interaction.
No h8 but you come across as a person who is either blindly defensive of ken, or just personally naive.
> down to earth
She is in fact the opposite of this. She's extremely pretentious (with zero substance), and is uptight and controlling of others. See the perfume reviews, nought-intellectual musings over politics, and how she treated her bf.
> insightful and intelligent
She uses a lot of flowery language, which tricks some people into thinking that's intelligence. It's like when people think using big words or speaking quickly makes one intelligent. In reality, any person with any actual mental capacity will try to convey their point as simply as possible, and make it as easy to understand as possible.
> she seems supportive of her friends
You are looking at a facade. She isn't supportive, she's just participating in the hivemind. She only says "nice" things because that's what she's "supposed" to say. And actual GOOD friend would decentivize their friends from shitty behavior.
> and treats them with kindness
She clearly mistreated her boyfriend and openly hates men. That's not being kind. If you're only kind to the people you like, that's not really kindness.
 >>/15437/
Are you the 15 year old from one of her previous threads who said her life seems so cool and you wish you could buy clothes from a thrift store, go to a concert, and buy a vinyl record like her? If so get help. Your perception is warped. She's just a mentally ill person who causes a whole lot of drama and gossips about her friends resulting in them all leaking convos on chans. dishonest about her values which makes people interested when things get exposed. It's nothing to aspire to
 >>/15439/
This guy knows what's up. 100% correct.
Also, I'm not even moralfagging here, but if anyone here is underage, they should leave immediately, forums like this are unironically unhealthy. And obsessing over retarded (e-)celebrities is also unhealthy.
 >>/15372/
 >>/15379/
 >>/15437/

Also why do some of you make it this obvious that you don't comprehend what a sex life looks like. None of this is normal. It doesn't matter that Kennedi played dumb to ekat after the encounter. Andrei travels across the world because he knows he's getting laid. $10,000 is involved. Contrary to popular online belief, rich people don't regularly offer up their wealth to every gold digger on the very first date nor do they fly across the world for the first date. Wealthy men are exceedingly used to women like Kennedi trying to use them and typically avoid these women like the plague. Except when these rich men are clients so to speak, then you'll get what happened here which was a very obvious money-upfront transactional sexual relationship 

What reason would Kennedi have to be honest with ekat, considering this was the type of "friendship" where the conversation ends up leaked anyway? Who's naive enough to believe that a sexually active adult with a self proclaimed high libido who already was having overtly sexual discussions about a guy, stayed in his airbnb with him and money/gifts were exchanged for only "kissing him" like she claims? That's what they all say since there's nothing special or glamorous about the situation anymore after admitting to selling sex. Andrei says that Kennedi fucked him twice during their stay together which is realistic. Consider what reason he would he have for lying versus her reason for lying. She's the only one ashamed considering her very public stance on prostitution

Its just projection. This woman carefully curates her online image to emphasize faith, often posts religious symbolism, voices a strong stance against exploitation of women, strong public stances against prostitution, talks often about being ashamed of sexuality, dislike for the pursuit of excessive "wealth", and goes over the top in posting imagery associated with innocence and childhood. Aaaaand there you have it in her offline life she fucks wealthy men for money, gifts, and according to her own Reddit post he was paying her bills. Since her true actions are the complete opposite of innocence, she severely struggles to cope due to her admitted OCD fixations on sexual urges, innocence, and moral purity

Kenbros literally got proof she prostituted herself to a russian millionaire, but ironically they're so unfamiliar with what a sex life looks like that they can't recognize that's what's going on. Or just ridiculously naive. How anyone would still fall for the image that she maintained due to years of blatant projection from internalizing her mental problems is hilarious 

It's over.
Let's compile a list of contradictions about ken:
> hardcore communist
But indulges in capitalism and unnecessary luxury, and accepts expensive gifts. Not to mention doesn't actually contribute to the commune and arguably leeches off of others (typical communist).
> vehemently anti porn
But sends nudes and prostitutes herself for rich foreign chads.
> is blindly supportive of women
But blindly hateful of men.
> pretentious as fuck
But is a complete brainlet, using flowery language and pseudo intellectual topics to pretend she's smart.
> accuses men of having sick violent fantasies
But it's actually herself who is very sick in the head, with multiple mental illnesses, eating disorders, as well as being into "rough sex", and indulging in P fantasies (both as the aggressor and the victim)
> likes to think she's innocent
But actually dresses somewhat slutty and engages in attention whoring.
Any others I'm missing?
 >>/15420/
> anime has a very distinct way of fetishizing youth
There she goes again with the projection.
She's obsessed with youth and innocence, so she thinks everyone else is too. In this case, she's projecting her obsession onto anime.
 >>/15360/
> first floor feels unexciting
> any higher [than third floor] makes me anxious
Ain't that just a great summary of her mentality. She's the type that can never be happy. She's either too "bored" or too "anxious".
 >>/15441/
> why do some of you make it this obvious that you don't comprehend what a sex life looks like
You're forgetting what website you're on.
> they can't recognize that's what's going on. Or just ridiculously naive
NPC types literally have a "filter" in their thought process. If a person they like does something bad, they completely and instantly excuse and rationalize EVERYTHING the person does, no matter what.
It is virtually impossible to change their minds because they'll just go "No no shut up, no no you're wrong" at anything you say.
 >>/15441/
i've talked to ekat before, and it's pretty obvious the russian guy didn't fuck ken, and i'm also pretty sure he never said anything about it, and the op just made that part up. the logs say he didn't fuck her because... he very likely simply didn't

also the 10k thing is ekat's exaggeration, afaik he just gave ken some commie historical relic and ekat shat out some troll valuation like she always does. he was already in the US for other things, he didn't come for ken or marky
 >>/15445/
The US is a large country and he wasn't going to be in either of their cities for business, he went out of his way to go to both of their cities for sex. There's no denying this and it's silly to argue otherwise. What do you gain trying to convince people she didn't fuck anyway? Her and her friend were discussing rough sex versus gentle sex, and the "way" they want to be fucked by him. Not even talking about it privately with him like in any type of authentic relationship, but overtly obsessing with one another over wanting to fuck a millionaire. But for some reason you were easily convinced that when the time came to do it that it didn't happen.. just because one of them said it didn't

The mere fact that so much drama was caused over this indicates much larger things going on. Single people having first dates with various potential partners and some of the dates never leading to intimacy doesn't cause problems. These girls all already knew he was flirting with all of them and that he had sexual themed conversations with everyone involved. They didn't have any problem with that part, they even encourage it and get off on it in the chats with each other. So that's not it. The problem was introduced when he had sex with Marky and Kennedi back to back. The only reason that was ever even forgiven in the first place is because it was transactional anyway, so there was no emotional infidelity involved.

You're also still ignoring that her bills were paid by him, and he said had sex with her.
 >>/15446/
> These girls all already knew he was flirting with all of them and that he had sexual themed conversations with everyone involved. They didn't have any problem with that part, they even encourage it and get off on it in the chats with each other.
Precisely this. And I'll add that not only did they not have a problem with sharing a chad like him, they actually liked him MORE because he had the attention of other women. It's called Preselection.
 >>/15446/
unlike you, i knew the people involved, so my opinion is based on that instead of lectures about how the world of millionaires works, or whatever point you're trying to make. 
he lived close to marky, which is why he met her, and also visited ken while he was in her state for other reasons (no, i don't know the exact reasons, this from talking to ekat).
iirc he only visited her one time while he was there, and never did again. pretty sure he only fancied marky significantly. all of this is almost 4 years ago.
 >>/15445/
> he didn't fuck her because... he very likely simply didn't
Yes I'm sure he flew from Russia all the way to bumfuck South Carolina just to give her a gift and sleep in the same bed non-sexually. Get real, idiot
I see a bunch of words typed by gossipy women. Who even cares about any of this shit? This is like lolcow except inhabited by a bunch of autists who discuss the lives of random girls on the internet. Someone post her nudes already. the rest of this shit doesn't matter without her nudes.
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 >>/15452/
> he crossed the globe just to uhhhhhhh hang out okay
> he just kissed her and gave her an expensive gift, trust me on this one
> there is absolutely no proof of prostitution or tradeoff here
> hey hey stop looking at the timeline and chats, i just said theyre isn't any proof
> he didnt fuck her because... because... look he just didnt alright
 >>/15453/
How do you think we get the nudes you slack jawed idiot, we need to dig up the evidence of her being evil so people with them will leak.
 >>/15460/
> believe MY claims without proof, not yours. also ignore the fact that neither of us have proof to go off on except screenshots that prove you right instead of me
lmao. okay. i wonder if ekat will pop in
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 >>/15455/
> Kennedi is finally exposed as the materialist whore we all knew she was
> suddenly all the orbiters want to shut down the thread by screaming "FAKE FAKE DOESN'T COUNT" or "NOT INTERESTING ENOUGH NUDES OR GTFO"
They can't even bother to come up with a proper justification for her. Imagine how broken they feel right now.
 >>/15461/
Ekat doesn't exist, and was a sockpuppet of Desuwa/Andrei's used to get close to and manipulate girls (namely Marky and Ken). "She" would reinforce his complex web of lies and make him seem more desirable than he really was.
 >>/15462/
idek what to say to you because you pretty much already believed she was evil so it doesn’t matter what proves that wrong as long as there’s something you can try to say proves it right. you already believed it before anything was posted and you’ll continue to believe it no matter how much contradicts that. what’s evil about having sex with her bf, not having sex with some weird guy who lied to her and gave her a gift she didn’t know the price of, freaking out because she got lied to, being told lies about marky by like 4 people at once, taking nudes for her bf years ago then saying she’s not gonna take them anymore? nothing, but you already believe she’s evil so anything will be molded to fit that view. she’s underwhelming and painfully normie. ironically youre making her out to be a lot more powerful and special than she is by telling everyone to stop liking her. 

you believe ekat and andrei when their narrative fits yours but conveniently say they can’t be trusted when their narrative doesn’t fit yours. drink your own piss
 >>/15467/
Good points. He has no good arguments. 
"Shes a bad person because she disagrees with me politically!!!1"
This level of nitpicking makes him seem fembrained.
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 >>/15467/
i mean the desuwa saga just sounds like some dumb catfight gossip, especially considering ken's ex literally raped her, pulled a gun on her and almost killed her (see her reddit).
her judgement in guys gets a lot worse than this random russian dude lol...
 >>/15467/
> what’s evil about having sex with her bf
She manipulated him into thinking he has a porn addiction, persecuted him with her fake moral superiority, obsessively inspected his room and computer to prove that he has porn, revealed all his secrets to redditors and then left him like the cuck he is. 
> not having sex with some weird guy who lied to her and gave her a gift she didn’t know the price of
She fucked him. She also took advantage of him economically, shitting on the foundations of her ideology and becoming a class traitor.
> freaking out because she got lied to
She had a meltdown after realizing that he pumped and dumped her like a prostitute.
> taking nudes for her bf years ago then saying she’s not gonna take them anymore?
She claims to be vehemently against porn while being a porn maker herself. Everything she does is contradictory, false and hypocritical.
> ironically youre making her out to be a lot more powerful and special than she is
On the contrary, I'm saying that she's just as rotten as the average girl. You're the one who's putting her on a pedestal.
> by telling everyone to stop liking her
I'm not telling you to do anything, I'm just laughing at your cuckoldry.
You're mistaking the voice of your consciousness for mine.
 >>/15471/
> abusive boyfriend
> dated for several years
Every time.
It's like they get off on dating abusive men, or perhaps it's the abuse they crave.
Also, notice the implication that she had been dating him while she was underage.
> 21yo
> broke up 2 years ago
> had relationship for "several years" before 19
> he is 28
Wow, she sure know how to pick them, huh.
Surely there couldn't have possibly been a healthy stable man around her age to date. You don't understand, she HAD to date the abusive man for multiple years.
 >>/15475/
 >>/15472/
spoiler alert. abusive people don’t present themselves as abusive immediately and spend a long time earning the trust of their victims, and the easiest people to fool are kids and teenagers. she was 16 or 17 when they started and a literally autistic chick from a bad home. he was 24 or 25. saying she just wanted an abusive bf is fucking braindead even for here. 
taking nudes isn’t “making porn” either you dumbass nigga, and she said she was never going to take nudes again in the same post.
she herself and ekat already said there was no sex with the russian guy, why would ekat lie about that when she’s the one leaking these anyway
 >>/15475/
It's interesting you're shifting the blame on her because of the man she chooses.
But here  >>/15472/ you say she took advantage of the rich Russian. So he gets to be infantilized and is incapable of desiring and "consenting" to being a paypig. He's the victim despite choosing that path for himself. You're not very consistent, are you? You come across as extremely dishonest and deceptive. Maybe you were just projecting when you called her a terrible person kek.
> watching porn isn’t bad and she is a terrible person for disliking it
> but also she’s a terrible person for telling people anonymously her bf watches porn and she dislikes it
if porn isn’t bad how could it be bad for the world to know you like it? his identity isn’t even attached to the post at all. if you feel so strongly about porn being fine then it shouldn’t bother you when some birds complain about it, but it does. curious.
 >>/15480/
saying that someone you know watches porn and is a liar is an EVIL act and makes you a TERRIBLE PERSON. ignore the amount of abuse and rape in the porn industry though those people deserved it and i can’t help that i like porn so please ignore it and instead feel bad for me also don’t ask if i watch porn because i am embarrassed please fuck please don’t tell anyone no no please no PLEASE DONT TELL ANYONE
This forced drama with dramatic reveal of stale ancient gossip between larping ethots is pretty underwhelming. Literally just a gay discord love triangle, no nudes, no evidence any of them even cared much after the fact.

The only interesting thing so far is how close she got to being killed by her ex lmao
 >>/15477/
> spoiler alert. abusive people don’t present themselves as abusive immediately
Buuuuuuuullshit. That's just something people say to take away responsibility from the woman.
Just from the fucking fact that she was a teen and he was in his mid 20s is enough of a red flag.
Not to mention, she could have also left at the very first sign of abuse.
She could've also left at every subsequent sign of abuse.
> she just wanted an abusive bf
Idk about you, but if people mistreat me, I walk the fuck away. I don't stick around for FUCKING YEARS continuously receiving abuse.
But hey, even if she didn't want an abusive bf, she sure as fuck wanted an older bf. She could've stayed single or dated a guy her age, but out of all the men around her, she went for an abusive man of an inappropriate age. If she didn't want that, she sure as fuck went out of her way to date him.
Also, you're arguing with multiple different anons.
 >>/15478/
> you're shifting the blame on her because of the man she chooses
It's very simple: Do not date abusive people. If someone you're dating reveals themselves to be abusive, then immediately leave.
Again, it seems that the "evil misogynist" is advocating for women's safety and their ability to stand up for themselves. Isn't that odd.
 >>/15480/
I also fuck your mom every night but I still preserve her privacy of being the town bicycle.
As always, the white knight simps create false equivalencies.
 >>/15481/
> this is your brain on soy
Emotional outbursts and strawmen.
Are you alright? Are you having hallucinations? Arguments in your head, perchance?
 >>/15484/
> That's just something people say to take away responsibility from the woman.
NTA, but it happens to men too.
And yes, it is most definitely not always clear right away.
They start to gaslight you and chip away at you in small ways at first usually. Sometimes the abuser isn't even aware of how shitty they are.

I don't know enought to say if it's the case for Kennedi, but your absolute statements rub me the wrong way. Could be that she's damaged and dumb in ways that she can't judge these things properly.
 >>/15484/
not the anon you’re replying to but when you’re in an abusive relationship you don’t realize it’s abusive immediately. because abuse isn’t just hitting people. it is manipulation. like how marky and ken didn’t know andrei was fucking with them the whole time as their “””friend,””” people in abusive relationships stay because theyre able to get the abusive person to doubt themselves when they’re suspicious. have you ever in your life had more than a few real friendships? serious question. because everything i’m saying is something most people already know from experience even with people in high school or personal conflict or through knowing family friends or anything at all
 >>/15490/
she’s literally autistic and both of her parents are crazy. she didn’t have any friends or a good family so she had no reference point for what to be weary of. imo the real shocking thing is that she actually learned her lesson and isn’t dead or in a way worse situation
 >>/15490/
> NTA, but it happens to men too.
Of course it does. And when men are the victim, they should protect themselves and leave the relationship too. The solution is the exact same regardless of gender.
> Could be that she's damaged and dumb in ways that she can't judge these things properly.
Maybe, probably.
Honestly, I've seen so many cases of "abuse victims" being utter piece of shit people, that it's very hard to be sympathetic. They always follow the exact fucking same pattern.
They always go out of their way to pick the abusive man, refuse to leave, continuously act like the victim, often defend the abuser, FUCKING MARRY AND HAVE KIDS WITH HIM, and they very often have shitty attitudes towards others. Ain't it funny how they attack people trying to help them, but vehemently defend the person abusing them? Ain't that just kooky?
For example, I'd have sympathy for ken's situation if she was just a quiet reserved person with issues who didn't want to harm anyone. But she keeps having a shitty attitude and blindly hating and mistreating and attacking men, so it's hard to sympathize.
 >>/15491/
> when you’re in an abusive relationship you don’t realize it’s abusive immediately
Maybe, but in my experience, there are almost always obvious signs that there's abuse or potential for abuse.
Look at the ken situation. A teen dating a man in his mid 20s. IMMEDIATELY that's enough reason to back out.
There is no room for manipulation, the age is factual. The only way to overcome this initial barrier would be if she had some interest in dating an older man, for example.
> marky and ken didn’t know andrei was fucking with them the whole time as their “””friend,”””
Really? Really? You mean to tell me the rich foreign man ISN'T extremely fucking suspicious?
> have you ever in your life had more than a few real friendships?
I simply do not hang out with shitty people. As soon as I realize someone is shitty, I stop associating with them.
 >>/15492/
> she had no reference point
You telling me that she's never heard of older men preying on teen women?
You telling me you need a reference point to know that kind of shit is wrong?
Again, I don't want to indulge in too much cynicism, but it seems that the only way that kind of relationship would happen is if she got off to the idea of dating an older man, as many many women do.
I don't want to be rude, but it seems like the concept of "Do not date bad men" is very difficult for women tocomprehend.
 >>/15493/
i wonder why a rape victim who’s been cyberstalked by almost entirely men since she was a pre teen isn’t the most optimistic about men kek. i mean look at this thread. there are people saying she deserved being abused and that she’s a terrible person for being upset she was lied to and venting about it while thinking she was anonymous. i would probably become a gender ideologue too, most here would. not getting a gf is enough to make men into gender ideologues on the flip side
 >>/15496/
Bullshit, she isn't a misandrist because of that. Cyberstalking is 100% wrong and potentially harmful (and retarded), but chances are she had mental issues before she had any attention on her.
Considering her symptoms, I theorize her parents being insane, combined with her being sexually abused in her youth.
> not getting a gf is enough to make men into gender ideologues on the flip side
Funny, but it's a bit deeper than just tfw no gf.
I'd also like to point out that not getting a bf is something women will never have to suffer with, and arguably don't even understand.
 >>/15493/
> Ain't it funny how they attack people trying to help them, but vehemently defend the person abusing them?
The sad fact is, many of them have normalized being abused.
Many cases are too complex to sum with just a few words and they usually have to be judged on an individual basis.

 >>/15492/
> imo the real shocking thing is that she actually learned her lesson and isn’t dead or in a way worse situation
She's not the first one where I'm surprised they somehow "made it out", at least for the most part.

 >>/15495/
> You telling me you need a reference point to know that kind of shit is wrong?
Yes, that's exactly the case.
I know two women who used to be in servers run by pedros and incels. They got told every day they're worth nothing and their only value is how they can please men. At some point some will believe it, especially if it happens at a young age. And guess what those girls came from shitty families and had little to no online friends. One of their friends even cut names into her thighs to be allowed into that circle again.
The truth is, you don't even have to go on the internet for this to happen to you, you see that stuff in islam and other "cultures" where it happens to millions of women.

It's super easy and arrogant (or ignorant) to shrug these things off as an outsider.
 >>/15499/
> They got told every day they're worth nothing and their only value is how they can please men.
See, right here I would immediately leave. This person is insulting me, therefore I'm out. Not to mention the question of how they got into that community in the first place.
> One of their friends even cut names into her thighs to be allowed into that circle again.
Any group that has such a requirement is immediately a group that's not worth being in.
 >>/15493/
Not the poor menz!!!!! How dare she ATTACK these vulnerable creatures! Attack how, you ask? O-oh yeah.. yknow... by criticizing porn addicts online... while I criticize her for being a whore on a gossiping site... yeah her attitude is just SO shitty! She should learn to be more like me! SHES ABUSING MALES!!
 >>/15499/
> She's not the first one where I'm surprised they somehow "made it out"
Who else surprised you? Curious, since this thread is derailed anyway.
 >>/15501/
this is where you realize women are raised in a way that is different from men and it makes them doormats who are the most susceptible to abuse. women are retarded because they’re raised to he retarded. girls as toddlers get told that boys being mean to them means they like them. some break out of the cycle and some don’t. its a shame and if people realized how differently men and women are brought up it would solve 99% of problems with gender. girls get told all kinds of stuff that’d probably lead you into a bad place if you’d been told it. some of that same stuff is being said here. as you can see from this thread girls get told they’re bad people for sticking up for themselves in any way. they’re called bad if they disagree with a man. when men disagree with each other it’s just a disagreement but when a woman disagrees with a man she becomes a bad person, maybe even a whore, the worst fate of a woman socially is being associated with sex while for men it’s what gets admiration. that’s wrong too, and it’s why what women call incels exist. but now imagine being told that if you’re openly sexual or you don’t obey to men you’re a bad person, from the time you’re born into adulthood. its no wonder women are so broken. 

the world makes me scared for my little sister.  i wish i didn’t even post here but i keep coming back thinking i might be able to change even one person a little. idk
 >>/15506/
> girls as toddlers get told that boys being mean to them means they like them
I don't know if you realize it, but this doesn't mean "abuse is good", it's meant to get the boy to be grossed out in order to indirectly stop hitting her. It's a passive pussy womanly way of handling the situation. The real solution is to directly tell the kid to not hit others.
> if people realized how differently men and women are brought up it would solve 99% of problems with gender
This I'll 100% agree with. There is a grand canyon of misunderstanding between men and women, and it only makes gender relations difficult.
> girls get told they’re bad people for sticking up for themselves
No, you're making things up.
People say ken is a bad person due to her actions.
And in all my posts, I've been saying that abuse victims SHOULD stand up for themselves and get out as soon as they can.
> they’re called bad if they disagree with a man
Literally nobody said this. Again you're making things up.
> when men disagree with each other it’s just a disagreement but when a woman disagrees with a man she becomes a bad person
Making up shit again.
> but now imagine being told that if you’re openly sexual or you don’t obey to men you’re a bad person
If someone told me that, I'd think for myself and decide whether that statement is true or not. I wouldn't just blindly believe things people tell me. But then again I have over 80 IQ.
> its no wonder women are so broken
Women are broken because they're given unlimited power with zero responsibility. And often people automatically want to be nice to women so they end up being coddled, and not learning the harsh life lessons and mental development that men learn due to the struggles they go through through their lives.
For example, some women get genuinely offended over swear words. Can you fucking imagine how fucking obliterated a man would be if he got indignant because someone said a swear word? But if a woman acts that precise way, everyone agrees with her.
TLDR: Women are broken because they are coddled to the point where they don't develop enough, to the point where it harms them.
 >>/15508/
her actions are fine man. you’re sperging for hours over screenshots from 4 years ago where she said she didn’t even have sex with someone and you’re trying to say she did. and you’re calling her a bad person because she anonymously vented on reddit that she was lied to. god damn just go back to posting the memes or something. anything
 >>/15506/
> imagine being told that if you’re openly sexual or you don’t obey to men you’re a bad person
Is that how women operate? You can just tell them something over and over and they'll buy it?
If you told a woman all her life that she's a car, would she constantly saying "VROOM VROOM BEEP BEEP"?
Call me a misogynist, but I say women are capable of thinking for themselves.
Or, I'd LIKE women to be able to think for themselves. I'm literally rooting for them and treating them like an equal.
 >>/15508/
you're in denial if you don't think there are people who would criticize girls for leaving abusive boyfriend because that'd make them "disloyal" and "fine with burning bridges so easily"
 >>/15510/
There's been like four posts already listing the bad things she's done. At this point either you haven't read said posts, or you're ignoring them to be a white knight.
 >>/15512/
There will always be people who say stupid shit. Why in the fuck are they listening to them?
> because that'd make them "disloyal" and "fine with burning bridges so easily"
Anybody with the tiniest bit of mental capacity will realize that either of these statements are mega retarded.
Think about it. Imagine you go up to someone and tell them "Either you give me 100$ or you're a bad person". Now tell me, would that person collapse in a heap of shit and hand you the money for fear of being labeled a "bad person", or would that person tell you to go fuck yourself and go about their day?
No seriously, that's the level of thing you're bringing up.
 >>/15471/
 >>/15482/
> ken's ex literally raped her, pulled a gun on her and almost killed her
> The only interesting thing so far is how close she got to being killed by her ex
Reminder that none of this actually happened. She made up the whole thing and convinced herself it was real.
 >>/15513/
i have read them, but venting about porn and misogyny or whatever on reddit because she was lied to shortly after almost being killed, and refusing to have sex with a guy 4 years ago who was also lying to her, and all the other stuff i cba to list off is small potatoes. and i seriously can’t believe there’s such a hullabaloo over it. at least marky actually fucked that guy and is a literal psycho who isn’t ever manic, ciara was an actual sociopath who swindled people out of money and died a druggie death. ken did what again? she posted on reddit like a fucking nerd and was enough of a dumbass to meet up with a man who definitely had sexual intentions alone and was surprised when he screwed her over for not having sex with him? l m a o. oh yeah let’s not forget the crime of her dating someone who abused her too. or the crime of having anxiety. or the crime of saying men on the internet have made her feel bad about being a woman instead of a girl. what a bad bad girl she’s been after all. maybe get your blood pressure checked if this is genuinely offensive to you kek
 >>/15514/
but you see it here and elsewhere all the time. girl breaks up with guy, guy says she was a cruel bitch who only cared about her own feelings and her breaking up with him for any reason is proof of it. anytime one of the girls on this board had a relationship end you’d see it echoed repeatedly, people saying that the relationship ended because she’s a whore and now she’ll move onto the next person on the cock carousel and she’s impure. bunch of fucking noise innit, but hearing that in your most formative years would fuck you up too. abusive people tap into guilt and shame as their main weapon and so do the worst of the people on here
 >>/15515/
Why would she post about it anonymously on Reddit asking for legal advice if it didn’t happen? She didn’t know anyone would have her reddit account so it’s not like she was getting clout from it. Didn’t she also say she had to get multiple restraining orders against him, not just one? If she had posted this on instagram and nowhere else maybe I’d believe it was fake but there’s no incentive to ask for legal advice about it anonymously on Reddit of all places. She also deleted the post.
 >>/15514/
the difference is abusive relationships happen over long term time periods when you’re attached and think you trust the person and know them well. when you deeply love someone you give them the benefit of the doubt. you have obligations to them and attachment. you have none of this with a stranger on the street.   

you complain about false equivalencies but what you said is the biggest one in the thread lol
 >>/15519/
thank you. that means a lot. i swore off this board because it’s bad for my mental health because i get into arguments like this. i used to find it fun to keep up and get involved but now it just makes me sad. i can’t believe half the shit i’m reading here. i wonder how many people here would change their tune if they suddenly had baby sisters or daughters.
 >>/15517/
> but you see it here and elsewhere all the time. girl breaks up with guy, guy says she was a cruel bitch who only cared about her own feelings
Even if it's true that people say that shit, and I'm not saying it is, you just need to exercise the tiniest bit of thought and think if what they're saying is legitimate or not.
I mean, is the implication that certain people completely lack the ability to think for themselves?
 >>/15522/
Damn, I never thought of it like that. You should go to a womens shelter and teach them facts and logic Ben Shapiro style. The looks on their faces would be priceless……..
 >>/15520/
> abusive relationships happen over long term time periods
And I'm saying that red flags are obvious, and the would-be victims should detect them and leave immediately at the first sign of them.
But that assumes the victim is innocent in this. I'll go even farther and state that most of these victims are actively attracted to the abuse, and the only problem is that the abuse eventually reaches a breaking point.
Give me one good reason why people don't leave abusive relationships at the first sign of abuse.
 >>/15521/
> i wonder how many people here would change their tune if they suddenly had baby sisters or daughters.
I'm not the person you're replying to.
I hear this phrase a lot, but if it wouldn't make the tiniest of differences.
The fucking advice and solutions are EXACTLY the same, regardless of the relationship you have with the person.
You're the one in the wrong here because you'd act differently if it were your kin, when in reality the best thing to do is to be direct with them instead of walking on eggshells because you don't want to hurt them.

If you ever see your sister getting along with dangerous men, you better fucking tell her to stay away from them, and teach her that she shouldn't associate with men like that. That would be the right thing to do
But I suspect that you're the type who would just fight those men and say nothing to your sister.
 >>/15523/
Laugh it up, soycuck. Truth is, if those women did what I'm saying, they wouldn't be abused in the first place.
Stop associating with bad men, stop dating them, stop having kids with them, stop chasing them.
Learn to spot red flags and leave the person as soon as they display them.
Again, the "evil misogynist" is the one giving genuine advice for women's protection, how'd that happen?
Bad people exist in this world, the only thing you can really do is tell the innocent people to stay away from them. But again like I said, the concept of "Do not date bad men" is seemingly a mystery to women.
 >>/15526/
> if those women did what I'm saying, they wouldn't be abused in the first place.
Inb4 white knight simps purposefully pretend to misunderstand this as "omg you're threatening to abuse women if they dont do what you say" or a similar notion. They're gonna do it regardless, I've seen this line of conversation many times.
 >>/15524/
1. “The abuser has been so good for so long, so one outburst can’t be too bad can it? The abuser has been more good than bad, they’re good to me most of the time, so I should just calm down, I’m being irrational.”

2. Most abusive relationships involve some form of financial dependency. People need to be financially independent because otherwise they can end up stuck with someone in a very bad position. Most women who continue living with abusive men, but not all, stay because they’d otherwise be homeless. This is specifically why women’s shelters exist. 

3. Mothers who are abused stay because they feel like their child needs a father and she doesn’t want to deprive the child of having both its parents. The abuse is hidden and the mother feels like she would be failing the child if she left for her own safety. This is of course irrational because the child is hurt by having a hurt mother and being exposed to abusive dynamics, but this thinking is result of being abused and feeling stuck.

4. Stockholm syndrome is real. Most abusive relationships are also intense relationships. There as many highs as there are lows. This leaves people feeling extremely attached, and both people feel like they need each other and could only ever be loved by each other, no one else. Feelings of love triumph over any logic you might have. 

5. A primary feature of almost every single abusive relationship is the abuser trying to convince the victim that it is actually them that’s the abusive one. The abuser says any reaction to their abuse is abusive. The abuser says attempts at leaving are abuse. The abuser often even threatens suicide or self harm to get the victim to stay. The victim’s self esteem is the lowest of the low, as that is what allows abuse to happen, and these shitfests make that self esteem even lower which makes them even more self hating and likely to believe what the abuser says. 

It’s not a rational mindset. It’s not a good mindset. It’s not an instant mindset. It happens. It’s just what happens, it happens to people who think it’d never happen to them. It’s a cycle rooted in some sort of low self esteem, naivety, dependency, or just being in the wrong place at wrong time. It requires empathy to understand. Nowhere in this post have I treated women as stupid or incapable of reason, nor have I said abuse only happens to women. I have no idea what else to say to you because empathy isn’t something you can teach or force. 

 >>/15526/
The red flags you’re talking about don’t pop up until it’s too late and someone is already experiencing one of the things listed above. Abusers are never immediately abusive, otherwise they’d be forever alone. They wait and they plant seeds. And then when those red flags appear in their full form, they know the victim is too dependent and self doubting to know what to do. Applies to men and women. You’re treating this like only women are dumb enough to be abused but I have known plenty of men too attached and beaten down to leave their awful girlfriends. This is something that can happen to anyone. You see yourself as above it so you can’t empathize in the slightest.
 >>/15477/
Creating nude content with the intent of sexually arousing someone  is literally the definition of pornography. It's so common for women to post their porn publicly that its confused people like you into thinking anything other than publicly available or professionaly made porn just isn't porn anymore? Bad opinion. Please read the definition of the word pornography, you've forgotten what it even means. Any woman who truly and authentically holds an "anti pornography" stance wouldn't be giving into what they claim to be their own systemic objectification. By day she was creating porn, then by night she was on Reddit trying to cope with her cognitive dissonance by ranting about how porn exploits women. The extent to which she over publicizes her stances is contrived for the purpose of maintaining a certain public image
 >>/15528/
First off, even if I disagree, I wanna say I appreciate the effort in this post. Concice but thorough points without trying to make excuses.
> The abuser has been so good for so long, so one outburst
I see what you mean, but at some point the person has to realize that it's not just one incident, and that this person is notorious for crossing the line multiple times.
> Most abusive relationships involve some form of financial dependency
Correct, but my counter point is that the red flags should have been spotted far before getting to that point.The person has months if not years with them, at least.
I've also heard the phrase "men change after having kids", regarding single moms. What are your thoughts on that?
> Mothers who are abused stay because they feel like their child needs a father and she doesn’t want to deprive the child of having both its parents
Correct again, and I've heard this point before, but it seems like these people are obsessed with having a father, any father, instead of picking a good quality man to be the father.  But you're right that it's not rational.
>  A primary feature of almost every single abusive relationship is the abuser trying to convince the victim that it is actually them that’s the abusive one.
Again I'd hope the person has enough self awareness to objectively gauge whether they really are abusive or not.
> Nowhere in this post have I treated women as stupid or incapable of reason
I appreciate that. I hate when people remove agency from women just to defend them. They don't even realize that this mentality actually harms women.
> It’s not a rational mindset
I guess that's my main gripe with the situation. It baffles me because it's such a shitty situation that could be easily avoided if the victim is the tiniest bit rational. I don't want to attack anyone and I do have empathy, but at some point I can only go "Come on, what the fuck are you doing?", you know? Extremely basic and obvious stuff like teen ken not dating a man in his mid 20s.
I personally would like to encourage people to be more self aware and rational, so they aren't victims of bad situations.
> The red flags you’re talking about don’t pop up until it’s too late
I dunno dude, I want to believe you, but it's hard. I see shit like the mid 20s man thing I just mentioned, and that's something that's definitely immediately apparent. Unless he lied about his age or something.
I've also seen many cases of women dating abusive men, and all her friends and family telling her he's abusive, and she completely ignoring and dismissing them, and continuing to date the abusive dude.
> You’re treating this like only women are dumb enough to be abused
No no, not at all. Everything I say applies to men and women equally.
> You see yourself as above it so you can’t empathize in the slightest.
It's not that I believe I'm above anyone, it's just that the red flags and solutions to problems seem so obvious to me, that I cannot believe someone would willingly fall for them unless they have ulterior motives. Some of this stuff is just obvious but people keep falling for it.
 >>/15531/
dude she literally only said she used to take nudes for her bf but stopped altogether because she’s anti porn and it was just acting as porn. she’d probably agree with you it’s porn and shouldn’t ever be done. where’s the part about being a bad person here?
 >>/15531/
not the guy you're replying to, but i'd go so far as to say that women on facebook or instagram showing off their body counts as softcore porn.
 >>/15530/
That's just an emotional response.
Having a sister or mother or daughter makes absolutely NO difference regarding the methods of prevention and solution to an abusive relationship.
What you're saying is the equivalent of "I used to think 2+2=4 until I had a sister, now I think it's 5.".
Your level of familiarity with a woman has utterly no impact on it.
 >>/15531/
Ignoring the fact that she already said on Reddit she’s never taking nudes again because she’s against them, it’s hilarious you’re trying to equate sending your partner nudes to the gigantic porn industry that is full of problems like trafficking, lack of verification, rape. I still watch porn occasionally because it’s getting made whether I watch it or not, but the arguments being made here make no sense and read more like you’re trying to defend yourself to yourself. There’s no similarities between getting nudes from a girl you love and beating your shmeat to 10 girls in one hour with 100 different positions and angles, who could all easily be getting coerced to do it or abused off camera. Just saying, that doesn’t make much sense. Not all porn is “””evil””” but it’s not like you can make sure which is or isn’t. And god damn I’m gonna say it again, there’s literally no similarities between getting a nude from a girl, and scrolling through a hundred bitches on Chaturbate looking for the right one to nut to.
 >>/15537/
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but what do you think about ken openly being a communist, but then indulging in capitalism? It's roughly the same contradictory logic as the porn\nudes point.
 >>/15538/
Buying things isn’t capitalist. It’s literally not. That’s the answer. Having a business is capitalist. This exact argument has happened in these threads already multiple times and it’s just a bunch of guys who read too much yelling at each other.
 >>/15539/
I should've specified. I mean her being a communist but still buying the most expensive version of items, instead of the cheapest one. Ideally the cheaper one would contribute less to capitalism.
She doesn't need a 700$ iphone for example. A 50-100$ smartphone would be plenty.
> it’s just a bunch of guys who read too much yelling at each other
You're not wrong.
what a shitty thread full of mong monkeys throwing dung at each other. I wonder why the beginning of this shitfest followed the confirmation that ken has a bf...
I don't even like her, but it's so obvious that some seething anon is eager to nitpick and twist her words to expose her as an evil person. this triggers the usual misogynist autist who then starts sperging and ranting and being a pain in the ass with his retarded theories. that crap must be his special interest, poor fellow.
to the guy trying to reason with these apes: yes, it's bad for your mental health, and you're not gonna change their minds because they're literally autistic. as hard as it might be, brush it all off and be on your way, you can thank me later.
to everybody else: fuck off and die.
 >>/15534/
Completely agreed that the average female selfie is just softcore porn now. If you don't pose sexually or provocatively you're "not empowered" and "don't love yourself". Average run of the mill women post lingerie photos on public like it's nothing
 >>/15501/
Again, that is very easy for you to say, since you're not an easily influenced teen with self-esteem issues, who at the same time is also "desired" by groomers.
Precisely BECAUSE you can easily differentiate, you're not a target.

 >>/15504/
Hm, hard to say, I guess Tahlia if she really has removed herself from everything for the most part.
There also are some edge cases like Nyanners that definitely were on chan boards and pics, voice recordings etc. for Anons, but didn't end up too deep... or at least not that we know of.
I guess you could go through the /agatha2/ catalog and think of who is still actively being posted about and who isn't.
Has Agatha made it out? I never followed that boring uggo.
 >>/15554/
> Has Agatha made it out?
Latest news is she was working this one establishment, a certain incident that I will not elaborate on happened, and now she doesn't work there anymore. Radio silence ever since.
But I'm also not in her inner circle, so there might be more info.
 >>/15357/
> tfw no grabbed by the shoulder by desu
so let me get this straight, this guy took a flight to go see a girl he wasn't romantically interested in to "hang out" and nothing "happened" even though he grabbed her by shoulders and they kissed apparently? Are you guys fucking retarded here? Something definitely happened, no one in their right mind take flights to see someone who they aren't having some sort of sexual contact with. Why did Kennedi even allow him to see her if this wasn't the case. Clearly something was going on.

I don't understand the reasoning behind why you fags try so hard to protect her and prove she isn't a whore or anything different than any other girls.
 >>/15563/
They didn’t kiss. He was in her city for some other reason, because it’s a big business city. They were friends. That’s why she saw him. Saying the truth isn’t an agenda. She’s had sex with at least two people, I have no delusions about her, but those people weren’t that guy.
 >>/15565/
people will believe what they want, especially about something from 3 years ago where none of the involved are even online anymore. not sure why this fake ass discord love triangle drama is so fascinating to people, especially without nudes leaking. guessing it's just 2-3 posters replying to each other
 >>/15567/
yep, they're obsessive retards with no lives of their own. who gives a shit whether some russian oligarch fucked kennedi or not. I don't care, but I hope he did just to piss these losers off.
 >>/15573/
> who gives a shit whether some russian oligarch fucked kennedi or not
People who want to deny the obvious at all costs. 
> who gives a shit whether some russian oligarch fucked kennedi or not
 >>/15565/
> He was in her city for some other reason
He was on a  sex tour. He seduced American egirls on discord and then fucked them one by one on a single trip.
posts she made in 2020 with a tripcode a year after this stuff happened
https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/99370173/#99373354
> i actually figured out that he lied to me about different "4chan girls" he had sex with, i don't really want to name them but he lied to me about having an entire marriage with one and told me lies about all of her supposed fetishes. i didn't question it, but later on when i found out that he was lying about his entire life i actually messaged that girl on instagram about the guy, and she had no idea who he was, not a clue. 
> i didn't think he would lie about these things either. i can show you emails i exchanged with him in which i confronted him on his web of lies and he admitted to it all. there was a specific woman he lied to me about to make me dislike her, and he lied to her about me to make her dislike me. he swore he only lied due to external pressure from another friend of his (who lied about her age and name as well). he told this woman and me so many huge fabricated stories about each other and we've already figured it all out and apologized to each other about the resentment we held towards one another which was caused by his lies. 
> i have never had a sexual relationship with him. i did meet him, but i have never had sex with him, never kissed him, never sent nudes, he never saw me naked, etc. 
> i never fought over him with other women either, there was a girl he was dating who he told me he wasn't dating, and he would intentionally try to make this woman jealous by talking about me and lying to her, telling her that i was begging for him, as he me that he wasn't dating her and that she was lying about me and obsessing over me. it was a very intricate web of lies that i didn't figure out until much later. i didn't try dating him, there was a point where he was very insistent on telling me he was in love with me romantically and i was very resistant, although i did love him platonically, i feel betrayed. 
> again, i am really shocked that he did something like this because i wanted to believe he was good. he actually lied to me about having OCD because i have OCD, he told me he had the same views of morality and life that i did, but it was all a lie to gain my trust and mess with my head. he lied about so much, about 70% of it was completely pointless as well. 
> he's definitely not schizophrenic, just very clearly a compulsive liar. i met up with him because i really did genuinely like him as a friend. i trusted him very deeply at the time, before i realized he was like this. i didn't have a sexual relationship with him at all. he actually tried kissing me and i refused to let him then i started to tear up because i felt so guilty for rejecting his advances.
 >>/15584/
wow. he sounds like a colossal loser. how messed up and inept do you have to be to think you need to lie this much to everyone you meet lmao
 >>/15586/
it's probably a slavshit thing, every russian i know has been a massive manipulative liar to women they like. it's in their "culture"
 >>/15584/
> but i have never had sex with him, never kissed him, never sent nudes, he never saw me naked, etc.

The only reason I'm starting to believe this is because nudes haven't leaked already. Hopefully someone will deliver
 >>/15586/
Pathologic liers don't always realize that what they're doing is wrong.
They think "everybody does it". That's how many bad people justify their behaviour to themselves, just look at this board.
 >>/15584/
>  >>>>>>>/i/ did meet him
> i did love him platonically
This is womanspeak for "I liked his beta bucks money, but didn't like his looks.".
It's like when women make a difference between "I love him" (want chad's cock), and "I'm in love with him" (want beta money)
> he actually tried kissing me and i refused to let him then i started to tear up because i felt so guilty for rejecting his advances
Sounds like she's doing the woman thing of thinking rejecting someone is a huge insult (ie the "u no get bussi"), combined with claiming she's guilty to avoid any accountability and accusations, as well as get victim points.
 >>/15597/
> ItS oNlY aBoUt ThE lOoKs
You are posting this in a board where the ugliest motherfuckers banged e-girls.
Go be delusional on twitter or whatever place you go to not get your fragile ego triggered 24/7.
 >>/15597/
Dude, what? She didn’t get money from him and they never had sex. How many times does this need to be said with multiple difference sources all confirming it? What the fuck are you talking about? I know you see every event involving a woman through a set of one or two templates but for Christ’s sake, at least think a little before trying to forcibly wedge everything into your preconceived notions of things. This is like a religion for you.
 >>/15601/
i like how marky actually did get confirmed to have sex with the guy and his friend but this anon is only here sperging about ken for days on end, nothing about marky, KEK
 >>/15602/
marky having sex with this guy is old news and nothing surprising since she's a known whore. she knew him for like 5 years, and they dated after she broke up with the brazilian and the blonde chad. she also cheated on him with yet another new guy if the screencaps are true. both marky and him are completely garbage people, that's why it's zero surprise, unlike with ken
 >>/15597/
the only reason someone would tear up after rejecting someone is if guilt tripping was involved. considering this russian guy is a compulsive liar i wouldn’t be surprised if he tried his best to pressure her and this made her feel guilty. he’s not a normal person lmao
 >>/15605/
guessing it's just the original "leaker" samefagging to support his dramatic reveal
nothing here is new, everyone already knew marky continues whoring, and the ken side of it was already posted on mu 2 years ago
 >>/15606/
You're forgetting she's an autist who thinks it's normal to check her bf's movies for lack of nudity and cries over the existence of porn. Combine that with the russian nutjob, and you get this. It's the predictable outcome of two mentally unstable people interacting.
ken please stop trying to do damage control lmao, for your own health just stay off image boards
Depop.com/narcoticvenus

Did she take the whole page down even though she was selling a ton of things, or is it just down for me
 >>/15677/
It was still up as of two days ago, but I noticed everything she had listed had been sold? My actual guess is that an orbiter must’ve bought the rest of what she had up and he made himself obvious. I don’t think this thread is the reason since her depop has been posted about for like a year now, and her other accounts are still up.
stop trying to make sense of what she does, some people are just fickle and oftentimes they don't know themselves why they behave as they do
Greetings from Argentina Kenbros! can someone give me a summary of this new drama. My English is quite bad and I don't really like to read either.
 >>/15720/
It’s old drama from 3 years ago plus her Reddit archive got posted. 
> ken and marky are friends 
> ken meets a russian guy through marky in 2019
> the russian lies to both of them about his personality and life
> he tries to seduce both of them but only succeeds at seducing marky in 2019
> continues lying to both of them while turning them against each other with lies until things escalate and they all hate each other
> ken realizes something is afoot and figured out with marky that the russian guy was lying about everything 
and that’s it
 >>/15357/
These fucking e-girls stories are fucking wild how come all those loser bitches talk to each other and fuck all those weird creeps but I can't get no pussy what the fuck
Is it just American girls or what the fuck
 >>/15731/
Getting pussy\dick is easy as long as you're a 8/10+ man, or a woman of any level.
Notice that the guy getting pussy in this case is a rich guy who traveled across the globe to bang a couple 3/10s.
 >>/15734/
Yeah those "some people" are called "women", life "just happens" to them. It's called Hypoagency (and simpery).
They get free attention, free offers, free gifts, people do nice things for them, just because they have XX chromosomes.
Don't even get me started on comparing that to a man's situation.
 >>/15720/
tldr:
Kennedi had sex with a millionaire Russian for money but her simps are trying to say she didn't. Even though she says she kissed him,  he says they fucked twice, and they spent time in an airbnb together.
 >>/15737/
Every single part of this post is a lie and contradicts everything the people involved said themselves. What is the endgame to lying like this? Lmao.
 >>/15738/
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but in your head, do you really believe that the guy flew halfway across the world, gave her a kiss on the cheek, and then flew back?
Doesn't that seem rather unrealistic?
 >>/15740/
> do you really believe that the guy flew halfway across the world, gave her a kiss on the cheek, and then flew back?
NTA, but didn't he go for Marky "and business" (whatever that means)?
I understood it as Ken wasn't his primary target and Marky was ready to spread her leggos.

Not saying they didn't fuck, don't know don't care, just saying your wording is incorrect to me.
 >>/15746/
> "and business"
Did you expect him to openly say "I'm going to America for sex tourism"? Everyone has an excuse.
He flew from state to state to fuck  the american girls he seduced via Discord and then returned home and watched them fight over his dick. 
He fucked Marky and Kennedi, and he probably met other girls from other group chats too after reaping his reward in North Carolina.
 >>/15747/
how many times do you have to be told that her, him, and his friends have all confirmed ken didnt have sex with him and she refused to even kiss him when he tried? there are screenshots and a whole other thread proving this in this very thread. at this point you’re ignoring all evidence that contradicts what you want to believe her to be in favor of your made up delusion that she’s an awful slut or whatever fucking every guy she comes across.
 >>/15747/
akaik he knew marky for many years and met kennedi through her later on. i'm guessing visiting ken irl was an opportunistic thing while marky was doing her manic meltdown in 2019
the timelines are fuzzy but it seems marky cheated on him with the "justin" guy in the logs around the same time he met ken in person. he then decided to play them against each other and the whole web of lies unraveled when ken and marky started talking again, leading to ken's post about it a year later

imo i think it's possible he fucked ken but it seems strange there's no drama specifically about sex so far or any leaked nudes
 >>/15754/
exactly. if ken had sex with him it’d be known by now with screenshots to prove it, considering how many screenshots and proof of other things exist. the thing about ken that people who’ve talked to her all know is that she’s extremely gullible and naive and will trust anyone who’s nice to her for a while. it’s why so much has gotten out, she doesn’t know how to filter and censor herself. if you ask her a question she will either tell you the actual answer or decline to say anything at all. she’s an obvious person who only seems mysterious because she doesn’t post everything publicly. but there are only screenshots of her and other people saying they didn’t have sex and she refused to kiss him lol. she’s not sexless so she could’ve chosen to have done it but she didn’t. she was dumb enough to think a man like that actually wanted to just be friends and had a meltdown when that wasn’t the case, felt offended, he started being mean to her and marky, and they stopped talking. i wonder how long after that she reached out to marky, or marky reached out to her. 

 it is pretty creepy how as soon as he got sex from marky that’s when he started turning her and ken against each other and being mesn to ken based on that one screencap where he’s insulting her and she blocked him. maybe he thought he could make ken jealous enough to want to have sex with him but i doubt her mind would work like that
 >>/15751/
different guy here but to your point, we can at least agree that she is willing to meet with an internet friend cause of his status as a literal millionaire. It'd be suspicious if that wasn't at least part the reason. I'm sure plenty of guys have tried to meet up with her irl but just didn't quite have the same legitimacy

personally I'm indifferent after having read some of the chat logs but I wish she did. the board would be more entertaining had they actually fucked

still waiting on those nudes
 >>/15755/
i think marky and him were fucking on-off as far back as 2018, before he probably knew ken, so i'm not sure any of it is related to sex.
my best guess is that he was distressed marky cheated on him, and possibly upset at ken's subsequent rejection (assuming that happened), so pitting them against each other was his solution to this. if he already had manipulative tendencies, it's not a stretch to imagine him continuing with that sort of reaction.
 >>/15756/
i would agree if she had actually taken money from him or something. anything at all. but she never did, so i don’t know why the money would’ve had an effect if she didn’t reap any benefits at all from him having it. she has plenty of friends and from what you can tell they’re mostly artist types which aren’t exactly wealthy. idk i don’t put it past her but if she was that drawn to him because of money you’d think she’d at least get some from him or even date him for it
 >>/15757/
that makes perfect sense. i think it goes even before 2018, i just remembered there being screenshots of marky admitting to cheating on charlie or something to a guy who either had the same avatar as the russian or the same username
 >>/15751/
> she’s an awful slut or whatever fucking every guy she comes across
These are your thoughts, not mine. 
I'm simply saying that there's no way she didn't fuck that guy.
 >>/15762/
the fact that you can’t imagine a woman not having sex with any man that crosses her path is also your own thought, not hers. maybe you’re gay if you think it’s so hard for them not to fuck men
 >>/15764/
My last post until kencucks stop coping. She wasn’t a virgin it’s not like she doesn’t like to fuck, no one knows he fucked her but from first and second hand experience, she wanted to fuck him so it might have happened. She’s a 3/10 at best, Marky mogs her to hell and back and the Russian guy was fucking her. Money barely matters in this equation, he is most likely tall and attractive, we already know he’s smart enough to manipulate vulnerable women.

TLDR; She probably fucked him and other men too, stop coping so we can be friends again.

Peace out Kenbros.
 >>/15764/
to be fair the only reason i believe she rejected him is because it goes with his reaction of pinning marky and her against eachother, not because i don't think she would do it lol..
it's pretty clear from her reddit posts that she's a lot more sexual and deviant than she likes to pretend, and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that she had a fling
 >>/15766/
i mean it’s obvious she’s had sex with at least a couple of men. but it’s also obvious she didn’t have sex with the russian guy who was fucking marky.
Let's be real here, you guys are insisting she didn't fuck him, but you have no idea either way, there's no way to be sure. Similarly, there's also no way to be sure she did or didn't get payed for it.
 >>/15768/
great point. there’s also no way to be sure she’s a woman. or that she’s actually white. there’s also no way to know if she’s truly american and in her 20s. there’s also no way to know she likes music and fashion. you’re so right
> guy regularly fucks marky for years
> is a foreign millionaire with the ability to travel to the us 
> can probably fuck most american girls given enough effort

why exactly am I supposed to believe this guy went out of his way to meet and fuck this neurotic autist lol. the whole thing is so odd no matter what happened
 >>/15770/
i think it was more of an opportunist thing since he already knew her through marky and was seemingly having relationship problems at the time
i doubt he pursued her as closely as some people here imply. sounds more like he sought a rebound after marky, which definitely makes me think it's possible they fucked. would be really funny if she actually turned down even kissing him rofl
 >>/15765/
> he’s smart enough to manipulate vulnerable women.
In what parallel reality do you live where you need to be SMART to manipulate e-girls?
Just how incompetent at talking with people are you?

 >>/15756/
If I were to make friends with a person online and they turned out to be a millionaire, wouldn't you be curious too?
Regardless of what your and his sex are.
Not saying that was her reason, but I sure would be.

 >>/15768/
Look up the flying spaghetti monster.
 >>/15781/
> If I were to make friends with a person online and they turned out to be a millionaire, wouldn't you be curious too?
Not really. Why am I supposed to care?
 >>/15764/
> any man that crosses her path
He's not just any man, he's a millionaire she flirted a lot with, who flew to North Carolina to meet her and who spent a night in an AirBnB with her.
 >>/15785/
> spent the night in an airbnb with her
what? where is that from lol, you’re just pulling things out of thin air. they hung out and he left
 >>/15793/
the only that things that were posted was her rejecting his kiss and "denying" sex but clearly she was interested in him romantically. Anyways who are his "friends" that are ITT? lmao show us proof and screenshots of messages w/ him or better yet stop larping. You are doing damage control for a whore, don't spout shit you can't prove -
 >>/15795/
> don't spout shit you can't prove 
Likewise. You sperg about proofs when people claim they know what’s said in the screenshots we actually have is true but don’t  demand proof for the people claiming the information in the screenshots isn’t true.
You guys are also assuming that the messages in the screenshots are telling the truth. It's perfectly possible they were lying or being dishonest. Especially if they're trying to hide something bad they've done.
 >>/15801/
By this logic no “proof” in either direction can exist and if it did it shouldn’t be believed either, so all discussion debating it is useless.
 >>/15787/
Hard to say.
If those messages before are anything to go by, she's probably very submissive and/or passive.
You could probably control her around quite well, not sure if she'd do everything though. Maybe gets up and screams if she thinks of you as a porn dude.
 >>/15802/
> so all discussion debating it is useless
I mean yeah, that's right.
Not only are these people who have no connection to any of our lives, we also have no way to actually confirm or deny any of the allegations or information.
So all that's left is for people to go "lol the whore fucked a stranger for money" and "no shes a pure angel she would never do that".
Summarily, this whole thing is mega autistic lol.
 >>/15807/
She seems like the type to instantly go for sex if the guy is hot or if she has something to gain from it (money, favors, etc.), but if a guy isn't hot, she'd definitely leave him dry.
You can see this dynamic play out with the russian rich guy vs her boyfriend.
For one guy, it's "fuck me daddy after our first time meeting", for the other it's "don't ask me for sex or even jerk off, i hate anything to do with sex"
Quite an interesting phenomena.
 >>/15814/
Have you considered that you are delusional and that’s why the made up scenarios you’re obsessing over don’t make much sense? Getting pissed off her ex was lying to her about watching porn =/= “you can’t have sex with me or jerk off ever.” And Jesus Christ she didn’t fuck the Russian guy. 

Anyway, I have a feeling her sexuality has probably changed over the past couple of years. She’s probably still super submissive but less passive because she has sexual trauma. On the other hand maybe the sexual trauma made her even more passive. It could go either way, but I think as long as she convinced herself she’s truly “in love” she’d probably do anything for her man even if it’s degrading. But based on the radical feminism stuff I think she’s probably more repressed now. Maybe that means even better sex though. You never know. I have a feeling she used to let her boyfriend do whatever he wanted to her and now she probably wants a more active role in the bedroom instead of being solely acted on.
Kudos to Ken for sensing something was amiss about him and not giving in to the dude. People wonder what good has she done, well this was a great example of discernment that is good for oneself, even though she may have been curious. She at least knew better than to give in to his manipulative urges and end up getting played like the real fool. I admire that kind of instinct. It's like she could smell that he had just been with Marky. 

I think it's stupid that I'm in here reading this shit and responding about girls I'll never know. I don't agree with much else I've learned about any of them, but this one thing really felt deserving of commendation.
 >>/15820/
You're going way too easy on her. If she was actually good at sensing manipulation, she wouldn't even be in contact with the guy in the first place.
> good job dude you got conned 95% of the time but you allegedly dodged the 5% wow you're so smart and skilled and gifted
 >>/15823/
usually it's more subtle than "con artist goes around conning people". i think it's quite possible they were truly friends for a while, especially since she says so herself in the logs. there's also no reason yet to assume he specifically talked to her only for sex.

i think her autism and compulsions over sexual things are really the only reason she didn't fuck him, if that's even true. I don't think any special ability to detect manipulation was a factor lol
 >>/15824/
 >>/15823/
Why is it impossible for you to believe she simply didn’t want to have sex with him? Not because of omg2pure4u, not because of any anxiety, not even because of detecting his con. She very easily could’ve just not wanted to have sex with him. Considering he tried so hard to court her and she was resistant to it but has dated other men, I think the most likely scenario is she just wasn’t attracted to him or at least didn’t see him as someone she wanted to be with.
 >>/15824/
It's literally the case of a rich foreign millionaire to an autistic 4/10 woman. How much more fucking suspicious can it get?
It's the equivalent of believing the nigerian prince scams.
> holy fuck, a nigerian prince wants me to help him by letting him deposit a trillion dollars in my account, and all i have to do is give him my info???? SCORE!!!!!!!!
Really? Come the fuck on.
 >>/15826/
it's certainly possible that's the case. she could have also already had a boyfriend during this time, who knows.
it's impossible to know what happened from the few logs that leaked, especially since they are mostly empty gossip
 >>/15826/
I'm not saying she did or didn't as a matter of fact, since really there's no confirmation either way, but life experience and common sense suggests she likely did, if I had to guess.
To me it just sounds so fucking ridiculous that a millionaire flew across the world to meet this chick who's obsessed with money and status, they rented a room, and people want me to believe that NOTHING happened? Or that they JUST kissed? Come the fuck on.
 >>/15827/
the fact he's a millionaire and she's a 4/10 doesn't really prevent him from having a friendship with her, if anything, it makes it even more likely, since the guy could have easily chased hotter girls if he just wanted someone else to fuck

considering he was fucking marky's brains out for years, he already had other sources for this too. i'm guessing this whole situation was him just being opportunistic with her while he was in her town already
 >>/15758/
> i would agree if she had actually taken money from him or something
not wanting gifts doesn't even invalidate the benefits that his status affords him. I went out of my way to not assume to know how she thinks. She either knows, doesn't know but thinks she does, or maybe she hasn't even thought about why she would want to meet up with him. We simply don't know. If you think people only behave in ways that make sense to them or involve concrete plans then you're mistaken
 >>/15830/
1. there's an appeal to fucking her. she's not some random internet girl; she's an internet girl he's likely interested in for reasons similar to other people on this board

2. there's an appeal to fucking and being able to fuck more than one girl at a time. I don't mean at the same, I mean that you're able to

3. I can't speak to their "friendship" but he's a guy and she can pass for a hot girl. He most definitely would have fucked her if she let him. Even if they're just "friends". Hell, he could have fucked her brains out after she gave him a price. I find that less likely but rich guys can get girls like that. it's a fairly open secret in some parts of the world
 >>/15827/
Emphasis on the autism. She genuinely thought they were friends and it’s not like they met by him saying “I am a millionaire. Hi.” Maybe the other guys who knew Andrei through Marky’s server can confirm this but I never saw him mention money and I think I remember them first talking about some communism stuff and that’s when they met and became friends. Marky actually seemed annoyed by how much they’d talk about books and politics. Ken thought he was a real friends because he knew exactly how to act as her ideal friend, or I guess he thought he was acting as an ideal bf just to get friendzoned by her kek.
 >>/15829/
Also
> rented a room
Why do you keep repeating this? You go back and forth between saying they got a hotel room or an Airbnb when neither are the case. They hung out when he was in town. There was no spending the night involved and he left after the failed kiss attempt. It’s like you think repeating fantasy enough will make it real.
 >>/15833/
i've never dmed him, but i've seen him in a chat before, and this seems accurate. i only ever saw him discuss various topics he seemed interested/knowledgeable over, never money. actually i don't even recall him ever directly mentioning his private interactions with ken or marky.

most of this thread is pretty suspect and full of assumptions that make little sense considering all the conflicting claims
 >>/15830/
> the fact he's a millionaire and she's a 4/10 doesn't really prevent him from having a friendship with her
Literally zero benefit to being friends with her. It's just a pure headache (on top of the "woman" multiplier). Likely anyone who associates with her only does so because they're using her.
> i'm guessing this whole situation was him just being opportunistic with her while he was in her town already
Probably. I can believe that.
 >>/15832/
> she's not some random internet girl
She's a legit bottom of the barrel pretentious insecure mentally ill chick. Those are THE most common type.
You can say she has a small following, but every woman who posts an ass pic on social media has a "following".
> she can pass for a hot girl
A 4/10 would be generous.
> rich guys can get girls like that. it's a fairly open secret in some parts of the world
Alright I lol'd.
 >>/15833/
> She genuinely thought they were friends
I'm shitting myself over people's naivete and inability to spot when something is too suspicious.
What a fucking coincidence that out of all the men around her, she was """""friends""""" with the millionaire guy. Oh and not to mention her other """""friends""""" being the guys who were semi-famous.
Wow that sure is a huge ass coincidence that the only men she's  IRL """""friends""""" with are the ones she can directly benefit off of.
Women chasing men with fame and money? Why, I never heard of such a thing.
It's the equivalent of saying that all the people who go to bars or clubs late at night are only there to dance.
this is starting to seem a lot like a few people are keeping the thread active by baiting eachother with canned arguments. how does this ugly autist manage to be the most "famous" person on this entire board? 
how does this drama suddenly pop out of nowhere, but apparently it's all from 3 years ago at the same time??
 >>/15840/
She has the most obsessive orbiters of any of the girls. Welp, time for a new thread I guess. I’ll go ahead and make the new autism chamber.
She could've been with like a dozen other men (not even counting orbiters), and out of ALL those men, the one she was with was the man who JUST SO HAPPENED to TOTALLY COINCIDENTALLY be a rich guy. Fuck off, it's not just a coincidence.
This is the equivalent of a man who only dates women with gigantic tits, but when questioned he says he had no idea any of them had huge boobs, and that actually he's for the political redistribution of equal breast size among all women.
If a man said something like that, you'd IMMEDIATELY say he's full of shit. So why are people making excuses and defending ken? I can only conclude that it's because it's a woman and that triggers beta men's simp instinct.
 >>/15844/
Idk dude, how many millionaires and semi-famous people do you know? It seems like the rate at which she associates with those seems higher than a normal person's.
But I'll do kenbros a favor: I'll keep quiet in the next thread unless something extremely retarded is said.

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