Bert 10/19/2025 20:37:00 No. 51286 [Open] [Reply] Actions Report Translate Thread... Hide Thread Translate... Hide Post >>/51285/ Last year kern pharma won 3 vuelta stages But it's not really just winning, a lot of them don't breach the top 5-10 anymore. Have you seen any euskatel or burger burppellet rider do something this year?