Bert 1/11/2026 21:26:00 No. 59122 [Open] [Reply] Actions Report Translate Thread... Hide Thread Translate... Hide Post >>/59115/ It is always lower on the gombuder. My last ride to the pond said -9 when it was around zero. Don't think that buff thing is necessary do I have to humble norgefjords with just a basic cap-hat under me helmet.