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>>/34742/ > how about an iPhone? I've ignored it in discussion because it is another world. Of course ios is alive and will be. > you meant an open-source os project with phone capability? Full open source is rare in phone segment, because GSM modules and some specific parts mostly have closed firmware. But even partial open-source projects aren't in good shape. > one does comes to mind. even made with 'open-source' hardware too. supposedly will ship later this year. Pinephone? There were plenty of projects, actually. Openmoko (maybe someone still remembers it) even was successful - they did both hardware and software and made real devices. But most of projects don't go to production stage, like neo900, or became scam like both jolla tablets, or finished but not usable like other stuff. After these years, I don't believe any that project until it would be fully made and openly sold. > but what is the reason? privacy? security? Some people want open-source for the sake of open-sourceness, using privacy as first argument. This is, of course, fake argument, because even open source hardware can't be trusted if it isn't made by yourself. Argument about open-source software is flawed too. Jolla was good example, they had closed source and open source parts, community whined about opening everything, but really no one ever contributed in open source parts. Really, browser was fully open and severely outdated (some kind of old gecko engine inside custom qt wrapper), yet no one tried to fix it, instead trolling about openness on discussion forums. Personally I want linux-based phone just because it is easier to maintain and configure (for me) and easier to develop simple custom apps. I did some development for ios and android at work, it is a unfunny mess (especially ios). And open-source hardware doesn't matter at all, although it would be good just for mental comfort. Considering privacy, it doesn't matter anyway, if you interact with outside world, you already losing your privacy. Everything is happen on third-party servers, or shared by you to someone who use them. I try to use own solutions if I can (VPS with VPN and own storage, jabber and mail etc), but this doesn't help much.