Bernd 6/16/2020 06:46:00 No. 37869 [Open] [Reply] Actions report Hide Thread Hide Post >>/37867/ Dont know if you read curse of canaan eustace writes about guelps and ghibellines. Apparently the ghibbelines were the "good" ones. I just see it as the dialectic frankly. I will think more about the other stuff you mentioned.