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> (who?) still stands here.
Everyone.
> roman and greek engineering was successfull.
I meant Northern Europe, of course the Greco-Romans did but they would, they lived much closer to the rest of the stone masoning world, the north never had much of a history of it to begin with other than very rudimentary structures.
> If you're not cult of zealots why wouldnt it? Old religions were already integrated parts of old traditions, pagans did not kill each other in the name of their super righteous cult. This is mostly christian invention.
They also had some issues with Jews when they made them recognise the Roman emperor as a god and killed them when they did not, not really religious freedom.
> there was, if you give example how certain thinker is opressed it is still the case todays europe if you end up in wrong side of politics.
Well the above point was hardly freedom of speech either.
> It is not, see how britain forgot how to make buildings from stone. So no it's not linear, it can be linear if state consistency is protected.
Britain both never knew and never forgot, they had historically only made simple stone structures, the Romans came and they put some stone structures up but it was not a British skill or even having the bulk of it passed on to them, however they still actually did build stone structures after the Romans left they were just rare and usually things like churches.
> Not an excuse at all, before dark ages greco roman had their things going despite their own problems, it was nowhere near bad dark ages, they were progressing, ever innovative and creative.
'I cringe I'm not gonna lie because this claim is simply absurd. Most inventions are already based on other inventions, claiming this is, I think clear way to say "I don't know how inventions work."'
> I can burn a library, save a few books declare myself a hero.
Well it's not like Roman itself never did anything like that(just look at Carthage) or that it was something that was stuck in the dark ages(just look at the Catholic Church and their destruction of Mayan literature)
> except they did not?
They did, as I said, there are very few contemporary sources for Alexander the Great and Early Roman Imperial history.
> because we are talking about western antiquity as dark ages did not happen in the east, I mean it is happened later but I digress.
You miss the point. Rome and even Greece had a huge wealth of learning and progress to draw from over a vast amount of time. Ad and the qoute I posted just before said 'Most inventions are already based on other inventions' The north did not have that to the same degree.