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> Well you can say that Ukraine was always meant to be defeated by Russia then.
> i'm not the shill, that American is the shill for sure!
Guerilla wars are not the kind of wars you know.
> Never said that.
Well, you meant that.
> How do I monger fear?
What do you propose? Leaving the capital and not defending it? Giving up officially is the first step to spread the fear.
> You are the one who envisioned Kiev burnt to the ground.
Now I see you are a shill. Even when that American did not suspect you, you were desperate to prove. Even your wrongful accusations of me wanting Kiev to be burnt are spreading fear.
> Do you know what is plainly wrong? The idea that Ukraine can defeat Russia.
There is no mercy from the KGB. The opposite of defense is giving up. You're the one to suggest that the Ukrainians give up and be turned into the bloody stew not by the Russian army, but by the Russian FSB and Russian National Guard. And that way, Ukrainians won't be allowed no hope, they'll be dead for sure.
If there is no mercy and all you get while pleading for mercy is prisons, torture and death, there is only one choice left. It's called the guerilla war. And by the means of it, a lot of national movements succeeded. However, you're a Russian shill and the core value of Russian propaganda is that people as a whole have no political will. You got that talking point right implicitly stating that guerilla wars can't succeed. And a guerilla war is the most painful thing to Putin, who won't manage the Russian economy, which did collapse right before the collapse of the USSR and actually was the cause of the USSR' collapse.
So, if Putin gets a long guerilla war instead of a small victorious war over Ukraine (in favor of which you are shilling), either his whole government will collapse by itself or Putin himself will be eventually killed. A small victorious war is a main aim for Putin. Granting him what he needs means that he'll conquer the Europe eventually and then he'll fuck you over constantly.
> they will be forced to give concessions
No they won't. Russian half-destroyed economy is not the one that will last. Putin's bet is a small victorious war that will make him last a bit more on the throne. If a war's gonna long, it's a suicide situation for Putin: he will be cornered by the political opposition, common folk, oligarchs, mafia (of which he is the member) and local tribal leaders like Kadyrov. A long conflict is a death sentence to Putin. A death sentence to Putin (or a mere detainment) is the only guarantee of peace in the CIS countries for now, Putin's gone mad and he's not going to return from his realm of madness.
> just like we were in 1956
If you're familiar with Stalin's repressions, you would know there is no mercy from the KGB. Hence, surrendering is not an option.
> Putin will pretend those were the goals all along ofc, because this is how it goes: aim high, then claim a lower goal later.
So you're eager to give a gangster what he wants, thinking you'll be safe giving up once. But you won't be safe. You'll give him more and more presents until all's left is your organs for sale. Do you think Putin will stop? Do you think he won't eat any other country, including yours own, alive?
An expert of Putin (and not a Russian shill) would know that the only thing Putin favors is the brute force. If you give him presents, he'll ask for more. If you show him the muscles or make it extremely painful for him to conquer your country, he'll lose his shit and run away.