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>>/46899/ > subsonic cruise missile Wonder how maneuverable it is. It seems like that one got out of control >>/46897/ > I don't believe NATO doesn't have capabilities to track Yes, that's why I joke that they just confusedly looked at it fly by. But then again, why wasn't it shot down? >>/46956/ I wonder if this will be another "fighters" narrative that they will milk for more than a week. They produced 3 waves of that story and 3 times it came to nothing: 1st, it was a chief eurocrat confidently trotting it out and some days later all 3 EU countries with migs declined; 2nd, it was the US saying it would replace them with f16s but after giving it some time for hype to spread Poland said it couldn't fly them in nor lend its own airfields; 3rd, it was Poland taking the initiative but again after some time US said it couldn't fly then in from Germany either. Most likely this was deliberate, whether or not there was ever a serious intention to carry out with actions what they announced to the media. As the jew york times acknowledged: "it's fine when we peddle lies, deception, or disinformation; it can raise the morale of our proxies" Btw, there's another instance of unconfirmed "atrocity propaganda" doing the rounds: a playhouse was blown up, some voices claim azov was inside others claim there were civs, with claims and counter-claims about who exploded the thing. What's different about the previous "maternity hospital" story is that this time there are pre-existing records of warnings about a potential false flag at that building. However, while such stories are widely spread in western media (because of the easy anti-russia spin), there's something that happened last Monday that got very little press. Something exploded over the city of Donetsk. The local govt claimed it was a missile which they (partially?) intercepted, while Kiev claimed they didn't launch it. Whatever it was, stuff seems to have crashed into a residential area. Afaik there is no foreign media there so almost nobody reported it, also because it can be spun as pro-rebels/rus. I have only found this video which shows signs of explosions (see 2 or maybe 3 shock waves in the shape of windows reflected over the shadow of a building cast on the road) and something crashing/exploding into a building. The DPR says it was a cluster bomb and among wounded and killed they claim dozens of casualties, all civs Whether true or not, I wonder if this will be used as justification for russia to start using heavy ordnance. E.g. why is russia not destroying or damaging the roads leading to poland, slovakia and romania where weapons are coming from and where those S-300 would presumably come from? Wouldn't it be useful to at least slow down traffic there? Similarly, why aren't they just bombarding everything in the fortified Donbass contact line where lots of ukr troops are deployed? Nearly 20 (minus ~5) days in and they still seem reluctant to go all in. Meanwhile both sides continue to suffer significant attrition, to the delight of foreign puppetmasters. I wonder if russia isn't confusing stoicism and stolidity...