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>>/47096/ (continued) In these circumstances, the only way I see for such a "total victory" is mass support among civs and mass surrender among troops. But this scenario (which has already failed to materialize once, during the first few days of the conflict), is unlikely because after ~8 years (since the maidan coup, or ~18 years since the "orange revolution") of systematic sidelining of pro-rus people, not many of them are now in position of sufficient power to act as collaborators and lead people to defect. This doesn't mean there aren't many pro-rus people, there surely are (at least in ex-novorossia) as evidenced by various cases of them leaking the location of ukr military. But they are mostly powerless and likely to face repercussions if they rise up. Barring that, a "total victory" (i.e. ukrainian capitulation or, say, >70% territory captured) might yet be achievable but I think rus would have to go into full war footing for that, and stop trying to be "gentle". If that doesn't happen, I think rus may still achieve a victory, on paper and on territory, but when weighed against the costs some will argue it was a defeat (like some have done with the winter war). In any case, one mustn't forget that "sunk costs" arguments can lead to spiraling losses. A careful weighing of costs, benefits, and risks must be done. But it is almost impossible for us to know what those are while facts are still behind this thick mediatico-politico-diplomatico-propagandistic fog of war. Other stuff: - As I mentioned, couple of weeks ago, the Poland-based Protasevych-founded "Nexta" channel was posting fakes made from video game footage. A few days ago, Ukraine's official ministry of defence account on twatter posted footage game Arma3 claiming that it shows russian helicopters shot down over Kherson: http://archive.fo/sgdzX Media all over the natosphere mindlessly reproduced it. This may have been the original source: https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=Y6oLOdrQNRc - Barbarism: There's another video of what looks like a ukr soldier killing a man by stabbing him in face, eyes, and throat. ISIS-tier butchery >>/47093/ > It has square around red star that is identified as remains of new UA logo painted over old one using not so good paint. Interesting. I found this pic. In the middle photo one can see 2 corners of what might be a star below their logo, and the other two photos have that square-ish area with a curved bottom. So, IIUC, that theory says that the logo, painted over the star, was lost in the flight or in the crash (due to any combination of pressure, temperature, fire). So, if Ukr launched it, it gives them a way out of the false-flag accusation.