>>/6930/ > Where you on here long ago? Or fandom in general? Both, sometime around 2016-2017 > I could see him having leeway with a couple of the definitions here in a derogatory way I refuse to believe that somebody thinks that cooking steak is smelly or gross. Not that it cant be true, I just don't believe it. >>/6943/ > all that shit by you I read it but at this rate there will be nothing left on the board but this one discussion so i'll take your word for most of it and just respond to some key points. > it feels like play-doh. I don't want to eat play-doh. > My understanding of the cause of "gamey" tastes is exactly because of rot. > I've tasted gamey beef hamburgers so you can't say it's the animal that causes that. It sounds like you're buying really shit beef. I guess it depends on what amount of money you're willing to spend and how far you live from where its raised, which for me is about an hour. But markets let their beef go bad and will recolour it with food colouring. I've bought cheap steak before and there is NO way to cook it well and the only way you can do it is well done. I also find that it helps to cook it once and then butter poach it a second time just to get some tenderness back. As an alternative example, I live quite far from the atlantic, and its really difficult to get your hands on good salmon for a decent price. And just like steak, its really not great cooked properly. You have to overcook it a bit because like you said, its been quite a while since it's been caught and its been lying around, yuck. > My understanding of the cause of "gamey" tastes is exactly because of rot. > People don't use them that way. Usually when I hear "carnivore" it's a vegan using it as a pejorative against those who disagree with their personal choices You sound like one of them city pony types. You have a biology degree, and you deal with vegans frequently enough to pick up their terminology. I'm a tradesman and at least 1/10 of the guys I work with are hunters. So this is probably a clash of different worlds, which would explain why your beef experience is so poor. If you ever get the chance to get a steak out in the country from a butcher, just give it a try rare. I'm not going to say you're wrong, as calling your personal experience wrong just doesn't make any sense. > I have a college degree in biology; I know what those words, used in an academic setting mean. I didn't mean to suggest that you didn't. > People don't use them that way. Yes they do, like I said, probably a clash of worlds. though I could still be wrong on that > Muscle tissue is not significantly different for being a wild animal; any ungulate will taste approximately the same for a given harvesting method. are you sure about this? I've eaten a lot of wild game and it is definitely different. Maybe i'm wrong about the muscle density but wild game is a lot less fatty in general. You don't get those nice looking marbled AAA steaks from a deer. But then again, I'm using the hunters and butchers definition of gamey. I haven't been in an academic setting in about 8 years now, and its pretty clear we're using different definitions. Which makes communication a might bit more difficult. I said I wouldn't respond to your whole post, but I think I did anyways. Oops. I used my twilight "words words words words words" gif way too early Looking forwards to hearing back from you. Love, Anon perhaps I should start writing my story rather than writing these novellas