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Part 5 - Joe gives his opinion on election rigging
BH: Uh-huh. How much do you suppose it costs? I'm just trying to figure this out, because you know California, Washington, Oregon, we're like a whole different place, we're the Left Coast, right? So we don't do things that way. But wouldn't it seem like it would cost a lot to pay people? 
JB: You might not think they do things that way. You just don't believe the people out there, what they'll do for a dollar. 
BH: So it's cheap to do it, you think? I mean I know it's done, because in West Virginia there was an election official that sold their own vote. 
JB: I'm not saying it's cheap, you know, or it's cheap or it costs a whole lot. I don't know personally, not personally, but I have heard a lot of rumors, of what people done, okay? 
JB: Well you know, it’s the way you can do it. Yeah, you know, like I said, I would be more than glad to testify before the House and the Senate, you want to talk about does the voter's vote really county, you know, you start dealing with paper you're dealing with a total mess. We bought the machines, you know that it only accepts you, that vote, to count. That's what a voting machine is designed to do young lady. 
BH: Except for, you don't know – how do you know what in the world they're doing with the PEB cards in Omaha Nebraska? 
JB: I could prove to you that I don't care what you do that what goes into that machine – we have a signature list. If 325 people vote on that machine, that's what it says: 325 people. 
BH. Uh-huh. 
JB: Now, you're saying that if ES&S or some other voting machine company programs this machine for Jack Smith to win, how do they know how many votes will be cast on that machine? 
BH: [Describing hacking test done in film "Hacking Democracy"]: On the memory card, it accepted negative votes, minus votes, so what the guy did was he estimated, oh let's say 'x' number of voters will come in, and he put in some minus votes and plus votes that equaled each other out, so that when the voters were coming in all day, they both end up positive and you have the right number of votes. 
JB: That's exactly done on an election? Not just a fling-flang that somebody set up to show it could be cheated? 
BH: No, it was actually done on an actual voting machine in an actual county, we randomly chose it off the shelf so there would be no way to do it, and the only thing that the hacker needed was the memory cards, he didn't need to touch the machine at all. And what he did was he exchanged the cards and slipped it in right before the election. 
JB: Why would a company like ES&S, Hart, Diebold or anybody else put their reputation and their company up for somebody in a state or a county or federal or anything else? 
BH: Well why would they know it though? 
Because, you just said a voter will sell their vote for a few bucks, or however much it is, and it's not the head of the company that programs the PEBs, it's just some guy that may have a gambling problem or whatever, so all they need is one guy who's willing to solve his gambling problem. 
JB: Yeah. 
BH: But it would be tough on you or anyone else wouldn't it? 
JB: Yeah. I guess I can't argue with you there. 
BH: Okay. 
JB: So let me ask you this, since you've done all this, paper, electronic, and all this stuff, what the hell's the solution? 
BH: Well the solution has to allow the public being able to see more of what's going on. 
Because even though you're going to have some messes here and there, you don't want to have a situation where only the government, or only a few programmers in Omaha know what's going on. So that's one kind of safeguard that would help. 
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