He always said i would never amount to antyting.I never hated him and there was this weird dynamic where part of him liked me but he couldnt stand me at the same time. He was smart and saw me as smart too. He would talk to me about things but we would often disagree as well. He was a very angry natured person and hated my carefree nature. Im not even as carefree as as it seemd to him but his viewing of me almost made it happen like that.i asked how he ended up there. He said he just fell in there as a wandering spirit some years ago. At first he was very happy until he realized i was there and was the leader in a sense. I get the impression of more and more people entering and living in my realm,immigrants basically.a small man enters. He can travel between these realms which pretty no one can do in my realm asisde forn the guy who told nme about the knees.this little man looks just like podesta and in fact it is him. He has this boy next to him who is the actual individual who can travel between realms. The boy(i say boy but he is taller than podesta) is podestas servant and feels way more pure/less depraved. Anyway podesta gets to the cashier which is the entry point and demands all kinds if things. He wants entry and also basically wanting to be acting as the king. I walk up to him and tell him to calm his ass down. He looks at me an is like "peasant?!". Telling me if i know who he is and how he is of higher rank and this and that. I stare him into his eyes and tell him thats not the proper way to talk to one of the real gods. He starts again and i tell him thats not how you talk to "God". He tries talking AGAIN and insulting me and i tell mortals have no business talking to real deities like this. The people around podesta get pissed at how he talks to me and start getting realy angry. It takes a while to set in but after seeing my intensity and the others who are starting to physically remove him he walks back out with the boy and is like "fine, i didnt want to be here anyway, i hate the physics here"(referring to gravity)he and the boy walk through the exit at the end of a small road next to the reception/cashier.my rival from real life is next to me and i tell him if he want to he can also just leave like this. He says he was maybe against me but not like that. I got the vague impression he had become familiar already.