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>>/2311/ Look, I'm not an expert on shoulders, lemme do some research and testing, after this cycle we'll review the gains and resulting definition. I am not doing a ton of stuff, but I'm doing that thing I posted >>/2008/ Every workout (3x per week) and it seems to be doing something. If I hit a wall or it's not wowing me then I'm going to put together a shoulder workout and add it to the routine somehow. I might need to rotate in a shoulder day, we'll see.