Russian Fighters Killed In Clash With US-Led Coalition Forces In Syria

With the calm of global capital markets shattered in the past two weeks, the ongoing military conflict in the Middle East has taken an understandable back seat to monetary matters. And yet, tensions involving Syria, Iran and Israel continue to escalate, most notably with this weekend's outright attack by Israel on Syria, allegedly in retaliation for an Iranian drone launch from a Syrian army base, and which led to the first downing of an Israeli F-16 jet in decades.

Yet what has so far prevented the proxy way from spinning out of control, was that Putin - as guarantor of the Syria-Iran axis on one hand, and Netanyahu as his nemesis on the other, had expressed restraint. For now.

That may change, however, following a Reuters report  that Russian fighters were among those killed when U.S.-led coalition forces clashed with pro-government forces in Syria earlier this month.

While Russia’s Defense Ministry said at the time that pro-government militias involved in the incident had been carrying out reconnaissance "and no Russian servicemen had been in the area", the story changed on Monday when it emerged that at least two Russian men fighting informally with pro-government forces were killed in the incident in Deir al-Zor province, their associates told Reuters.

One of the dead was named as Vladimir Loginov, a Cossack from Russia’s Kaliningrad exclave. Maxim Buga, a leader of the Cossack community there, said Loginov had been killed around Feb. 7 along with “dozens” of other Russian fighters.

The other man killed was named as Kirill Ananiev, described as a radical Russian nationalist. Alexander Averin, a spokesman for the nationalist party he was linked to, told Reuters Ananiev had been killed in shelling in the same fighting on Feb. 7.

If the deaths are confirmed, it could turn into a political scandal for Putin, with the public demanding why the government is keeping military deaths under wraps. Already Grigory Yavlinsky, a veteran liberal politician who is running for president in elections next month, has called on Putin to disclose how many Russians had been killed in Syria and in what circumstances.

“If there was large-scale loss of life of Russian citizens, the relevant officials, including the commander-in-chief of our armed forces (Putin), are obliged to tell the country about it and decide who carries responsibility for this,” Yavlinsky said in a statement released by his Yabloko party.

Of course, if indeed Russian soldiers were killed while fighting under covert circumstances - in the same way as killed US "military advisors" are kept under seal - that is the last thing Moscow would like to publicize. Unless of course the political calculus shifts, and Putin decides that it is time for a full-blown military escalation, in which case the deaths will be used as the justification behind any armed conflict.

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JSBach1 Deathrips Mon, 02/12/2018 - 18:09 Permalink

Slightly OT, but interesting reads about the downed Isreali F-16 (and the narrative being parroted thereabout)

“The Syrian command and its allies have decided to impose a new rule of engagement on Israel: for every violation of Syria’s airspace, Damascus will fire dozens of missiles above the Israeli inhabited areas along the Golan Heights. The intention is not to hit a specific target but to make sure no Israeli on the borders and within range of the fired missiles will live in peace. They will be in the shelter, and this will happen every time the Israeli air force violates Syrian sovereignty”,

 

https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/syria-does-not-fear-war-with-…

https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2018/02/11/when-red-lines-are-crossed-in…

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Billy the Poet The_Juggernaut Mon, 02/12/2018 - 19:52 Permalink

Do you mean the lesson that the United States incites radicals to do its bidding?

 

Zbigniew Brzezinski to the Mujahideen: "Your cause is right and God is on your side!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0

 

 

Declassified Pentagon report reveals that the West created ISIS to oppose Assad in Syria.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pg.-291-Pgs.-28…

 

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LiteBeeer lloll Mon, 02/12/2018 - 21:09 Permalink

WW1 destroyed the Ottoman in 1922 and enabled the way for Israel to be established thereafter in 1948. Else this would have not been possible.

WW2 caused the mass migration of hated Jews from the world back to their new established country. They gathered back into one spot.

Germany was punished by fire (by British RAF and American USAAF) with as example 650,000 incendiary bombs that were dropped just in Dresden alone, generating 1000 °C of hellfire heat. Like Sodom/Gomorrah, this was an example set by God.

WW3 will be soon, when the entire pagan world will persecute Jews and attack Israel, just as Germans did prior WW2. Then 15,000 h-bombs / a-bombs will burn the entire earth with such a fervent heat.

You will get what you ask for.

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BobEore LiteBeeer Mon, 02/12/2018 - 21:23 Permalink

When i covered this story

Sunday morning

I was aware that the Russo talmudic sock puppets infesting this site were still hanging upside down in their filthy guano smeared caves, torporously snoring in the sleep of the 'half-dead' but would soon awake to repeat their mistake...

of baring their fangs at the only real reporter anywhere NEAR ZHEEPLEDOMS NEWS EMPIRE. And now... after a weekend cirque d'sack sacks which saw a 'lil big horns' of blustery sockpuppet custers shooting their paper arrows, then go down before the 'truth in media' Injun assualt.. and

fake news princesses painfully suffer for their sins... I knew that eventually the mafiyas would have to GIVE IT UP ...

and say Bob.. you've done it again! We surrender. Jeep Jeep

Ol skool journalism vs the mendacious modern mediaz.... NO CONTEST!

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BobEore BobEore Mon, 02/12/2018 - 21:47 Permalink

he he heh

looks like at least one pooper-scooper troooper got away from Sundays' massacre! And is still shooting

paper arrows. [aka - small concession speech of speechless defeat! As the silent audience of readers watches Bob mow the grass!]

We'll rake em all up ... sooner or later.

As kabbalist sock puppets litter the lawn of zheeple H~Q

long with the usual detritus of used condoms... Maga hats n tees... Bibi bi -ographies...

and splayed body parts.

let the good time roll!

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MK ULTRA Alpha HRClinton Mon, 02/12/2018 - 20:54 Permalink

Kill them all and be done with it. Global population is ramping out of control, the global population is driving at an increased rate toward 8 billion. The world has never been here before, the reports of numbers being killed off will intensify in the war for resources.

We need an extermination event not an extinction event, this is why if we follow the Obama plan of lowering our shields, we can take the round and be the one's killed off.

Thank you Obama.

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Slack Jack Lost in translation Mon, 02/12/2018 - 18:52 Permalink

There are no ancient Jewish cities in Israel,...
but there are lots of ancient Greek cities.

What is weird is this; that 2000 years ago, it seems that there were no people even resembling Jews, in Israel.

It turns out that there is not a single ancient Jewish city in what is now called Israel. There is not a single ancient city where Hebrew characters are used on the statues and buildings. There is not a single ancient city where the buildings are in the ancient Jewish architectural style. In fact, there is not even a category of "ancient Jewish architectural style".

Of course, the Hebrew characters that are desired, are those of the Dead Sea scrolls (supposedly from 2000 years ago), which are essentially the modern Hebrew characters without points.

If you check out all the ancient cities in Israel from 2000 years ago, they are all Greek, and their ruins are still there for you to visit. Their inscriptions are in the Greek script and the buildings are in the ancient Greek architectural styles.

Here is a list of some of the known ancient Greek cities in (and near) Israel; Ecdippa, Seleucia, Ptolemais, Taricheia Arbela, Asochis, Sepphoris, Hippos, Dion, Sycaminum, Bucolon Polis, Itabyrium, Gadara, Abila, Dora, Comus, Gephrus, Crocodilion Polis, Caesarea, Straton's Tower, Narbata, Scythopolis, Pella, Samaria, Amathus, Ragaba, Gerasa, Apollonia, Sicima, Pegae, Joppa, Arimathea, Jamnia, Port of Jamnia, Lydda, Modiin, Aphaerema, Philadelphia, Birtha, Gazara, Beth Horon, Dok, Jericho, Samaga, Esbus, Medaba, Ladder of Tyre, Azotus, Port of Azotus, Accaron, Jerusalem, Ascalon, Anthedon, Gaza, Marissa, Beth Zur, Hebron, Adora, Engeddi.

The ancient Jewish cities in Israel are,....... well there aren't any. Not even one.

Here's an interesting example of a first century BC Greek inscription (i.e., in Greek letters) from Jerusalem's Temple Mount forbidding the entry of strangers to the Temple precinct.

http://www.preearth.net/images/no-foreigner-shall-enter.jpg

The pictured stone was found in 1935. It was actually the second such warning-stone to be found, the first being discovered by Charles Simon Clermont-Ganneau in 1871. It was deemed so dangerous to the "Jews inhabited Israel 2000 years ago" theory, that it completely disappeared for 13 years before resurfacing in Istanbul, where, it was correctly calculated, it would not attract much attention.

From: https://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-temple-mount-warning-stone-is-clo…

The first Jerusalem Temple Mount warning-stone, now found in the Archaeology Museum, Istanbul, is pictured below:

http://preearth.net/images/jerusalem-temple-warning-at-istanbul.jpg

It says (in Greek): "No stranger is to enter within the balustrade round the temple and enclosure. Whoever is caught will be responsible to himself for his death, which will ensue."

Slack Jack's CHALLENGE:

Name ONE ancient city (that existed in what is now called Israel) where the building inscriptions are all in Hebrew, and the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (whatever that may be).

Then give a summary of "the ancient Hebrew architectural style" (you will have to make this up as it does not yet exist).

Then give links to photos of the ancient building inscriptions which show that they are written in Hebrew.

Then show that the buildings are constructed in the ancient Hebrew architectural style (that you have just invented).

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1175

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Mon, 02/12/2018 - 18:54 Permalink

The Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

The Dead Sea scrolls are a mixture of old documents that were hidden in a number of caves to be miraculously found and used to support the establishment of Israel, a country intended for Jews only.

The main document "finds" were in 1946 and 1947 in caves near the tiny ancient settlement of Qumran.

Israel was created in 1948.

The Dead Sea scrolls are the only really old (well supposedly really old) documents, in the Hebrew characters, that have ever been found. No other really old documents in the Hebrew characters have ever been found.

All other documents in Hebrew characters date from later than 800 AD.

Previous to the "finds", critics had pointed out the late date of all documents in Hebrew characters, and deduced that the Hebrew Old Testament must have been translated from the Greek Old Testament and not the other way round.

Then, low and behold,... a very timely miracle occurs.

The Dead Sea scrolls are "found" and dated to hundreds of years earlier than the oldest previously known documents in Hebrew characters.

Then, it is widely claimed that all the scrolls were produced and hidden in the Qumran caves before 70 AD (the supposed time of the mythical sack of Jerusalem by the Romans).

The critics are not given access to the scrolls nor even photographs of the text, lest they spoil the party.

In fact, for decades, only seven scholars are given access to the scrolls.

This goes on till certain critics are dead and the scrolls have been purged of all anachronisms (like Arabic numerals).

Then, in 1991, only 45 years after their "discovery", the Huntington Library, in San Marino, California, without consent, makes facsimile copies of the scrolls available to all.

So that, in brief, is the Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

More, however, can be deduced....

One can even guess where the Dead Sea documents came from.

It turns out that some of the Dead Sea documents, for example, the "Damascus Document," are nearly identical to documents from the Genizah collection of the Ben Ezra Synagogue in Cairo, Egypt. So, it is likely that many of the Dead Sea scrolls had their source there.

Worldwide, there are ten manuscripts of the "Damascus Document" from the Dead Sea scrolls and two from the Cairo Genizah. This strange distribution is a result of the fraud. The "Damascus Document" was first published in 1910 by Solomon Schechter in "Fragments of a Zadokite Work."

The Ben Ezra Synagogue was established around 900 AD.

Now, the Arabs have ruled Egypt since they defeated the Greek armies around 635 AD.

Now, the synagogue (and its Jews) existed happily, undisturbed, in Cairo, in the midst of the Islamic world.

So, maybe the original Jews were a group of Arabs.

This would explain why Hebrew and Arabic are nearly identical languages.

This would explain why the Hebrew and Islamic religious traditions are very similar.

And, it would also explain why Jews turned up in Spain with the Arabs (Moors).

Another couple of points:

It should also be noted that a few Jewish scholars (in particular, Solomon Zeitlin) have long insisted that the Dead Sea scrolls were a Medieval production. [Zeitlin was a well-known Talmudic scholar and would not claim this unless convinced it was true.]

Internal evidence from the scrolls themselves indicates a Medieval production. See, here.

And, the fact that many scrolls are written on vellum (90% of them) proves these are indeed a Medieval production.

It is estimated that 20 people occupied the site of Qumran (estimated by the number of inhabitants for whom there was room in the buildings). Now these 20 people were not just ordinary people, they read and wrote Greek, Phoenician, Aramaic, Nabataean, and Hebrew documents, like natives, and managed to write learned works on numerous religious topics (about 900 manuscripts were "recovered"; about six hundred separate works), while gathering enough water, and raising enough food, for their survival, in a desert.

Some have tried to claim that as many as 200 lived at Qumran, but most have considered that number ridiculously high.

Anyway, I think it is clear that the Dead Sea scrolls are a bunch of old documents that have been thrown together and sold to a gullible world.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1176

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LiteBeeer DeadFred Mon, 02/12/2018 - 19:27 Permalink

Slack Jack

Get a clue about history:

Romans invade Greece and end Hellenistic period in 146 BC.

Octavian (later Augustus) defeats Mark Antony & Cleopatra and is the 1st Roman emperor. Greco-Roman period ends in 30 BC.

Roman empire (6th beast in the bible) is on fast rise while Greek empire (5th beast) has faded away.

Roman soldiers advance and build fortresses everywhere. Including near to 2nd temple. That fortress is today called the "temple mount".

Greek culture among the people is still active in those days.

After islam is founded in 610 AD, those jihadist use the same fortress location and build al-Aqsa (705 AD) and Dome of rock (691 AD) there. Mosques are military bases disguised as prayer locations. No quffar (arabic for goyim) can even today enter those buildings. You must be a soldier of allah/satan to enter. Islam, including the late Ottoman empire, is the 7th beast mentioned in the bible. The 6th beast's deadly head wound inflicted by Napoleon's General Berthier in 1798 is healed in 1929 as Vatican. 7th beast's deadly head wound was a final blow by Ataturk in 1924 and thus islamic caliphate is dead forever.

All 7 beasts (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greek, Roman/Papacy/Vatican, Islam/Ottoman) controlled Jerusalem. It's all about Jerusalem. Finally Israel is established after the death of 7th beast Ottoman and Jerusalem is taken back.

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