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'Ignorant infidels' in U.S. may have to be 'forced' to accept Islam

Dire warning given at Islamist conference in Virginia

author-image Leo Hohmann About | Email | Archive
Leo Hohmann is a news editor for WND. He has been a reporter and editor at several suburban newspapers in the Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina, areas and also served as managing editor of Triangle Business Journal in Raleigh, North Carolina. His latest book is "Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration And Resettlement Jihad."
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Keynote speaker addresses Islamist fundraising conference in Springfield, Virginia, Saturday, Nov. 18, 2017.
Keynote speaker from Pakistan addresses Islamist fundraising conference in Springfield, Virginia, on Saturday, Nov. 18, 2017. Photo/Rabwah Times
Radical imams from Virginia, Maryland and Texas attended a fund-raising event organized by an Islamist charity on Saturday, Nov. 18, in which they were treated to a smorgasbord of teachings from foreign-based Islamic thinkers.
The prime delicacy was offered up by keynote speaker Habib-ur-Rehman Ludhianvi, a visiting Islamic cleric from Pakistan.
Ludhiavi believes America is a “land of infidels,” whom he described as “ignorant.” His comments are a ringing example of what Muslim leaders say when they are behind closed doors and in the company of other Muslims, as opposed to the public comments meant for gullible infidel ears, security experts tell WND.
Ehsan Rehan fled his native Pakistan and works as a journalist in Washington, D.C.
Ehsan Rehan fled his native Pakistan and works as a journalist in Washington, D.C.
The only reason the public knows what was said inside the conference at a Holiday Inn in Springfield, Virginia, is because the gathering was infiltrated by Ehsan Rehan, the brave Pakistani-born journalist and editor of Rabwah Times who went undercover and captured video and audio.
The keynote speaker, Ludhianavi, is leader of the Islamic seminary Dar-ul-Uloom, which is based in Pakistan but operates branches in the United States, Canada and the U.K., including one in St. Paul, Minnesota, that opened in a former Catholic church in 2014. There’s another in Lawrenceville, Georgia, and others in Warren, Michigan, and San Bernardino, California.
On 12 Mile Road in Warren, the Darul Uloom Islamic Center and School is one of many Dar ul-Uloom madrassas that former Homeland Security officer and whistleblower Philip Haney has tracked and described as radical. Haney said San Bernardino terrorist Syed Farooq attended a Dar ul-Uloom mosque in that city and exchanged repeated text messages with the mosque’s imam in the months leading up to his attack on an office Christmas party that killed 14 Americans in December 2015.
Darul ul-Uloom mosque on 12 Mile Road in Warren
Darul ul-Uloom mosque on 12 Mile Road in Warren, Michigan
The Dar ul-Uloom mosque in San Bernardino is a haven for activists involved with Tablighi Jamaat – a fundamentalist, proselytizing Islamic sect known in some circles as the “Army of Darkness.”
“Dar ul-Uloom are the evangelists of the Islamic world,” Haney told WND. “They emphasize children memorizing the Quran.”
According to its website, “Darul Uloom Michigan has been sincerely serving the Muslim community since its inception, and by the grace of Allah (subhanahu wa ta‘ala), it is now a notable Islamic seminary with students of all ages from across North America.”
At the Virginia conference, Ludhianvi advised a sort of carrot and stick approach to conquering American minds for Islam, starting with heretical Muslims who don’t believe in jihad. He said:
They are ignorant and there is no need for dialogue with them, God has given them two options, one is the holy book and one is the stick and if one does not accept the holy book they have to be forced.
The imam’s use of the word “stick” should not be overlooked.
On the same day Ludhianavi was speaking at the conference in Virginia, another U.S. Muslim leader, Jaylani Hussein, was speaking at a symposium in St. Cloud, Minnesota, where he told a group gathered at the public library:
I understand that our organization [CAIR] comes under threat. I know why we come under attack. It’s not because of our silence. It’s because we carry a big stick.
Conference-goers in Springfield, Virginia. Photo courtesy Ehsan Rehan/Rabwah Times.
Conference-goers in Springfield, Virginia. Photo courtesy Ehsan Rehan/Rabwah Times.
It’s no coincidence that Muslim leaders are talking about using the “stick” to whip American infidels into shape, says Rehman, the journalist who went undercover at the day-long event in Springfield, Virginia.
“The word ‘stick’ in Urdu is a common term used in south Asia to reference the use of force,” Rehan told WND in an email.
Rehan said he went undercover into Islamist meetings in his native Pakistan before he was forced to flee the country.
“Due to threats from these organizations I had to flee the country twice, once in 2009 and then the last time in 2012,” Rehan said. He now works out of Washington, D.C.
Even other Muslims who eschew jihad are under threat from mainstream Sunni Islam in America.
Among the “infidels” named at the Springfield conference was the moderate Shia sect of Ahmadiyya, who believe in a prophet who came after Muhammad and are therefore considered heretical by the majority of mainstream Muslims.
Here is one of the tweets from journalist Rehan that includes video from the conference:
Radical Islamists hold gathering and fundraiser in the U.S. state of #Virginia, urge use of force against minority #Ahmadiyya Muslims, say one of the biggest threat the Muslim community is facing today is how women are being “urged to go outside of their homes” #Springfield pic.twitter.com/kdpQmVAMmB
— Rabwah Times (@RabwahTimes) November 19, 2017
Commenting on the dangers faced by Islam, Ludhianvi said:
“The biggest threat that Islam is facing today is the disruption of the family system, for which they [west] are urging women to go out of their homes.”
Last year in his magazine, Ludhainvi issued a fatwa (decree) stating that the “use of cellphone by women in public places was against Islam” and so was wearing “high heel shoes.”
The Georgia Islamic Institute and mosque is part of the Dar ul-Ulam network of mosques, headed by a Pakistani imam.
The Georgia Islamic Institute and mosque in Lawrenceville, Georgia, is part of the Dar ul-Uloom network of mosques and madrasas, headed by a radical Pakistani imam. Photo/Leo Hohmann
The event in Springfield was organized by two U.S. registered charities, Idara Dawat-O-Irshad and Khatme Nubuwwat Center, both of which enjoy IRS tax-exempt status.
The registration desk in the hotel was manned by teenagers who displayed flyers and posters denouncing the founder of the moderate Ahmadiyya sect. An exhibition booth lined with posters urged Muslims to not vote for “non-Muslim candidates.”
The event particularly targeted the Ahmadis, about 15,000 to 20,000 of whom reside in the United States, many of them refugees from Muslim-majority countries where they are persecuted. Many of the conference speakers accused the Ahmadis of being “infidels” and criticized them for having “abolished jihad,” according to Rehan’s undercover report.
During a question-and-answer session, Ludhianvi warned the U.S. government to “stop giving refuge to the adherents of the Qadiani faith [Ahmadis],” who he claimed were worse than Jews and Christians.
The conference ended with organizers urging the attendees to donate $100 each to pay for the expenses of the “cause,” Rehan noted. The organizers also thanked the “Karahi Kabob” restaurant owner for providing free food to the conference attendees.
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Dawg_em • 1 minute ago
It appears the next Crusade will begin here in the US. So be it. Targets are being acquired.
will • 4 minutes ago
The sooner the dance begins the better. First take out the traitors and LE who would protect them. Then party time till the locust are wiped from the fruited plains of America
BLOB • 11 minutes ago
the Imam is correct about one thing - America has become a land of infidels. There are always two sides to any coin. And both sides of Islam is stamped with the face of Satan. You who target the innocent for murder will find yourself the victim of your own devices.
SS • 8 minutes ago
The IMAM should be looking in the mirror when he calls someone an infidel.
Klikhir Tulagin • 12 minutes ago
Worth noting that 'ignorant' in Arabic - 'jahili' - also is used to mean 'pagan', referring to pre-Islamic times in Arabia. So he is calling Americans 'pagan'. Some are. Also worth noting that lefty mainline 'churches', and their scholars in academia, are sucking up to Islam, and have been for many years. Heard a Methodist professor from Boston U. School of Theology (BUST) talking up Islam 30 years ago. This is gonna be a mess.
BLOB • 20 minutes ago
We might have to be forced to accept Islam? Not a chance. By your own testimony, your attitude and words tell us your religion is false. Against the words of your own book, you joyfully target and murder the innocent. God's judgement is upon you, and he will complete it according to his timing and his plans; not your evil deceptions. Certainly, the USA is no saint, and Christ will judge all the nations. As for you, your very words condemn you. Why would you die when you can live?
Terrence Lorelei • 26 minutes ago
Remember: Before you load your magazines, dip your rounds in pig blood.
TioDon • 30 minutes ago
America and Americans are the dumbest people in the world. Who else would invite the ememy into their homes knowing their main goal in life is to kill their hosts? I'm so glad I left but hate sitting here on the beautiful Caribbean watching this happen. Stupid....stupid....stupid.
mdottwo • 5 minutes ago
The CHRIST-HATING ENEMIES WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENTS AND CORPORATE INTERESTS INVITED THEM IN, SET UP GOVERMENT STIPENDS FOR THEM, AND HAVE GIVEN A VOICE TO THEIR DEMANDS TO ISLAMACIZE AMERICA, TOWN BY TOWN, CITY BY CITY.
Warmac9999 • 17 minutes ago
Unfortunately, there is no place to hide. If American and Western Europe fall, you will be reading only one book or your will be beheaded.
davegrille • 34 minutes ago
The Islamists are sowing the wind.
ShemSilber2 • 17 minutes ago
Amein! That's Hosea 8:7: "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it has no stalk: the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up."
BLOB • 19 minutes ago
And they will reap the whirlwind
Deplorable Johnny T • 36 minutes ago
Go ahead and try it you Islimeic swine and see what happens!
TioDon • 29 minutes ago
Too late, Dummy, they're already doing it and no one is doing anything about it. So, they've tried it and nothing happened.......
Islandream • 19 minutes ago
Doesn't sound much like you "hate sitting there, in your little Caribbean paradise, watching this happen"! Sounds like yet more ramblings from yet another self adsorbed prikk, that actually ENJOYS degrading others!
TioDon • 7 minutes ago
Ahhhh, finally some action from Islandream......oh, wait, never mind, he’s, as usual, just running his mouth.......
jerrys • 38 minutes ago
Attention members of the American government that have taken corruption wealth from our sworn enemies. YOU are TRAITORS and everyman American is getting sick of seeing you sell out our country for petrodollars. When the time comes you will be dealt with severely and correctly for your treasons.
DOUG Arledge • 40 minutes ago
This country has the 2ND ammendment unlike Europe. We know how to defend ourselves
Oak66 • 42 minutes ago
Don't worry..the left will support these Islamists ...Leftism is disorganized insanity ....that hates itself enough ....to wish to kill itself. Thus the support for Islam.
Most Rev. Archbishop Gregori • 47 minutes ago
The greatest danger to the "infidels", here in the U.S. is that OUR government will do nothing to stop this crapola by the agents of Satan. Our leaders and representatives in Washington, D.C. know very well what the message is that is spewed by the Imams, so why are they allowing these enemies of freedom into our country to spread their verbal feces?
BLOB • 16 minutes ago
You are correct. What they are doing is "divide and conquer." These people who are protected by armed professionals and live in gated communities, feel safe, as they give up your country for personal gain.
auminer • 49 minutes ago
We are getting extremely tired of hearing this type of threatening rhetoric from these desciples of satan. If they think they are gonna walk all over folks in the USA as they are doing to the loony toons in Europe then they better think twice. Go ahead and make our day. We would find a great deal of pleasure in helping these murdering wretches go meet their moon doggy, carpet loving, camel riding, goat loving god.
joepotato • 50 minutes ago
Civilization/immigration Jihad aka the Hijra is a fundamental part of Islamic doctrine... The Hostiles want the phony Muzzies to accept the Jihad... Which is how the USA was
gifted with the USMC back in the day.
w w • 52 minutes ago
im surprised no one is burning mosques to the ground.
Richard I Ellis • 52 minutes ago
Why are these BASTARDS allowed here when legislation forbids any country or sect here that hates the U S A! They are ILLEGAL like all the rest of these REFUGEES!
joepotato • 49 minutes ago
Our esteemed politicians have sold us out for the "globalist" agenda... The Islamic hostiles are being used in several ways...
Dawn • 52 minutes ago
Why the hell don't we gather them all up and throw them back from where they
came from. I guess Bozo is just gleaming at what he did to bring them here. Time for
all to go to hell and the sooner the better as they are organized and mean business for America and not in the nice way.
freedixie • 56 minutes ago
Just come on and try to "force" us to accept Islam. Please.
Demoncrats • 57 minutes ago
Yep! Confirmed yet again by their own words and terrorist actions. muslims are the world’s largest satanic, hate, and terrorist group. If you don’t covert to islam to support their satanic demand for world dominion, you are enslaved, raped, or murdered.
Politicians, are you ready to end the threat?
Pi10107 • 32 minutes ago
No end to the threat. The politicians enable the terrorists through the judges that do their work for them. The politicians could stop the judges, but they refuse. It's only going to get worse.
Burnerjack • 59 minutes ago
Clearly, this is using the cloak of religion to mask a seditious group and movement. The thrust of which is to overthrow the American government and Western Democracy. As such, they are acting and advocating outside the boundaries of "religious freedom" and well within the boundary of "political/criminal hostiles" operating within the national borders. This clearly falls under the domain of 'sedition' and if US nationals, they are also acting treasonous and need to be prosecuted as such under existing US Law.
Failure to do so is a blatant act of nonfeasance by federal Law Enforcement.
Klikhir Tulagin • 4 minutes ago
Also worth noting is that the current wave of Islamic extremism is heavily involved with the underground Nazi organizations in Europe. For example, when the President of Indonesia was unable to get re-elected, he went back to where he studied engineering - Munich. From there he sent money - lots of it - to the Islamist political parties in Indonesia so they could attack Christians in the Maluku war.
Pi10107 • 1 hour ago
Our reps in Washington have been so remiss that I believe that if the Muslims asked for more land to train for killing Americans, they would get approval for the land. They have allowed to enemy to come in and still come in, so why would it be so hard to believe.
Bosco • 1 hour ago
" I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange Gods before me!"
Just Mat • 1 hour ago
"They are ignorant and there is no need for dialogue with them, God has
given them two options, one is the holy book and one is the stick and if
one does not accept the holy book they have to be forced."
So, evidently they believe they have reached population saturation sufficient to begin the last phase of take over - violence. Look for more attacks and even bom-bing.
ShemSilber2 • 1 hour ago
The greatest danger that Islam won't face is that their master, the one they call Allah, is not a god at all, but the fallen high official formerly of the heavens, Azazel. He is called Heylel in the Hebrew of Isaiah 14:12, and his fall and coming judgment are mentioned at Isaiah 14:12-19 and Ezekiel 28:11-19.
In Hebrew, Allah means curse, as in Daniel 9:11 and Zechariah 5:3, to wit: "H423; אָלָה; 'âlâh; aw-law'; From H422; an imprecation: - curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing."
Islam says, "Allahu akbar / Allah is the greatest," but if there were truth in advertising, they would know, "Allahu tsephua," to wit: "H6832; צפוּע; tsephûa‛; BDB Definition:
1) dung (of cattle), manure, cattle dung."
When the Master Yahusha (Lord Jesus) returns, He will remove this Azazel from us totally on Yom ha-Kippurim, the Day of Atonements, the 10th day of the 7th month on Yahuwah's calendar, and then we will rejoice in the Feast of Tabernacles with our Master Yahusha as Zechariah 14 prophesies. The Master Yahusha will make the kingdoms of this world the Kingdom of Yahuwah and of His Messiah (Revelation 11:15), and we will have peace on earth for eternity, amein!
Winston Smith 1984 • 1 hour ago
Come and try to convert me. Bitc!
katzkiner • 1 hour ago
For the last 50 years America has been under constant attack & threat from islam.
It is time to let the muslims wake up in a smoking hole.
They had better be bulletproof if they intend to try! Molon labe!
Ilpalazzo • 1 hour ago
Thaaaaaaat's Islam!
Quran 5:51 - "O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as
allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally
to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah
guides not the wrongdoing people."
Bosco • 1 hour ago
Such a peaceful religion.
Oak66 • 41 minutes ago
But ....Hitlery told me it was....Gee....reckon she could be wrong?
katzkiner • 1 hour ago
I'd love hear what he says when faced with 80 million infidels with rifles.
He is not in Europe.
Burnerjack • 53 minutes ago
No. This is not Europe. Any European men that are strong enough to resist their coming servitude are arrested and deemed "Far Right Wing".
Here, the Complicit Left tries for the same effect, but falling far short of their European cohorts.
Maud St James • 1 hour ago
They can try. Americans are protected by the Second Amendment - at least, they are until the socialist liberal Democrats succede in destroying it and serving up the free Americans to the darkness of Islam.
Elena • 1 hour ago
This will undoubtedly thin the pews of the average church to those who are really in love with Jesus. The sermon saturated pagans will go to mosques and pretend to be muslims there.
For Christians and Jews -- fear not. Your God is nearly here!
Robert A Kaufman • 1 hour ago
Maybe it is time to start rounding up The Muslims, Socialists, Communists, Nazis, Marxists & Globalists before they start rounding up Christians & Other Patriotic Americans!!!
Captain Dave • 1 hour ago
We need a new era of McCarthyism to clean out the trash.
dude76 • 1 hour ago
well I' as a Christan am saying I will fight back don't care if it's Muslims or corrupt government it the democrats that help Islam kill Americans. I think the Muslims are about to piss off a sleeping giant
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