Update II: The votes are beginning to role in...as a reminder, the Senate plans to vote on four amendments to the House shell bill that's serving as the vehicle for the chaotic, live-action compromise playing out on the Senate floor...
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*SENATE REJECTS IMMIGRATION AMENDMENT FROM SENS. COONS, MCCAIN
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*SENATE REJECTS BIPARTISAN DACA-BORDER PLAN OPPOSED BY TRUMP
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*SENATE BEGINS VOTE ON BIPARTISAN DACA-BORDER FUNDS AMENDMENT
According to the Hill, the Senate will now vote on a measure mirroring Trump's proposed immigration deal, which is also expected to fail, leaving Congress with an uncertain path on immigration ahead of a March 5 deadline set by the president.
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*SENATE REJECTS TRUMP IMMIGRATION-DACA-BORDER FRAMEWORK
...And that approach also failed.
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Update: President Trump has made it very clear where he would prefer the vote to go. First he retweeted:
Schumer-Rounds-Collins destroys the ability of @DHSgov to enforce immigration laws, creating a mass amnesty for over 10 million illegal aliens, including criminals. https://t.co/ERbAjNXLZM
— Tyler Q. Houlton (@SpoxDHS) February 15, 2018
Then he detailed his views in two tweets:
"The Schumer-Rounds-Collins immigration bill would be a total catastrophe. @DHSgov says it would be “the end of immigration enforcement in America.” It creates a giant amnesty (including for dangerous criminals), doesn’t build the wall, expands chain migration, keeps the visa...
...lottery, continues deadly catch-and-release, and bars enforcement even for FUTURE illegal immigrants. Voting for this amendment would be a vote AGAINST law enforcement, and a vote FOR open borders. If Dems are actually serious about DACA, they should support the Grassley bill!"
The Schumer-Rounds-Collins immigration bill would be a total catastrophe. @DHSgov says it would be “the end of immigration enforcement in America.” It creates a giant amnesty (including for dangerous criminals), doesn’t build the wall, expands chain migration, keeps the visa...
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2018
...lottery, continues deadly catch-and-release, and bars enforcement even for FUTURE illegal immigrants. Voting for this amendment would be a vote AGAINST law enforcement, and a vote FOR open borders. If Dems are actually serious about DACA, they should support the Grassley bill!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2018
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Update: Despite the threat of veto from The White House over one bill, Bloomberg reports that House Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has called for votes on the immigration bill at 2:30pm today.
As The Hill reports, the Senate is barreling toward a showdown on the floor over immigration, with both sides digging in as they hunt for 60 votes.
The battle will now come to a head shortly with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) urging lawmakers to move forward quickly.
“At a minimum, under the regular order, we can make sure at least they receive a vote by Friday morning. I hope the Democratic leader will finally consent to hold these votes on amendments today,” he said.
McConnell has teed up four proposals: A measure from Sens. Christopher Coons (D-Del.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) dealing with "Dreamers" and border security, an amendment from Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) cracking down on sanctuary cities, a bipartisan proposal from the Common Sense Coalition and a framework from the White House.
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As we detailed earlier, the Trump administration has threatened to veto a so-called 'bipartisan' immigration bill - offered from Chuck Schumer and Susan Collins - that was being primed for a vote as soon as this afternoon.
The bill reportedly does not meet President Trump's demands and White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement that:
“If the president were presented with an enrolled bill that includes the amendment, his advisors would recommend that he veto it.”
As The Hill reports, the bipartisan plan would shield 1.8 million young immigrants living illegally in the U.S., known as “Dreamers,” from deportation and provide $25 billion for border security measures - both elements of the White House’s immigration plan.
But the proposal does not go as far as the White House would like in curbing family-based immigration.
It would block Dreamers from sponsoring parents who knowingly brought them illegally into the country, but would not make broader changes to the family visa system demanded by Trump and his GOP allies in the House.
The White House said it “would undermine the safety and security of American families and impede economic growth for American workers” and result in “a flood of new illegal immigration in the coming months.”
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York called President Donald Trump "obstinate" and said the president "has stood in the way of every single proposal that has had a chance of becoming law." A group of Democratic and Republican senators agreed on the proposal Wednesday after weeks of negotiations.
The president on Thursday endorsed a bill introduced by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) that closely mirrors the White House framework.
Comments
that's 1.8 million voters right there. if you can't win them over with ideas, win them over with stolen money
What's so difficult about protecting our borders and preventing the same bullshit to occur again?
In reply to that's 1.8 million voters… by ted41776
Chuck Loves Jesus
He keeps his lawn nice and neat for minimum wage and votes "D" at least 2 or 3 times each election.
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
i hope you're not talking about the same jesus i saw in front of the home depot the other day surrounded by empty beer cans. he decided to pull out his dick and piss on the sidewalk in broad daylight. the timing couldn't have been better either. a school bus full of kids pulled up and stopped for a red light about 10 feet away. that jesus is an unsavory character, or maybe i'm just culturally insensitive
In reply to Chuck Loves Jesus… by E.F. Mutton
Jesus may have been saying suffer not the children to come to him.
In reply to i hope you're not talking… by ted41776
I'm with Trump.
In reply to Jesus may have been saying… by TBT or not TBT
Th flow of immigration from every county to every other country in the world:
http://thesoundingline.com/map-day-worlds-immigration/
In reply to I'm with Trump. by IH8OBAMA
Thanks for that great map!
In reply to Thr flow of immigration from… by Four Star
A country founded by “illegal” immigrants fanning the flame vs immigrants. Priceless.
In reply to Thanks for that great map! by Oldrepublic
every war is a jews war.
time to say no to their schemes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=sXatIbuW9Hw
In reply to A country founded by … by stizazz
a counter wakeup call https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=51&v=sXatIbuW9Hw
In reply to A country founded by … by stizazz
No wonder Hitler was openly envious of America's [then] tough immigration standards.
In reply to a counter wakeup call https:… by Four chan
Hey there, suicide can be the honorable thing to do.
I recommend you find some gasoline and matches.
In reply to A country founded by … by stizazz
We took empty land squatted on by Asiatic interlopers. Sorry if it upsets you.
In reply to A country founded by … by stizazz
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York called President Donald Trump "obstinate" and said the president "has stood in the way of every single proposal that has had a chance of becoming law."
Yeah, when you bring sh**hole bills for him to sign, what do you expect??
In reply to I'm with Trump. by IH8OBAMA
Everything these Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopath Globalist Corp Government Board of Directors aka CONgress touches is & turns “Catastrophic”.
Oh, and Chuck.
Fuck you amd your absolute, complete, open in our Faces..
Tyrannical Lawlessness.
In reply to Senate Minority Leader Chuck… by Potato Farmer
Treasonous cunts doing their treasonous cunt thing.
Who are they working for again? The American people or the Mexican people?
In reply to Everything these Pure Evil… by Chupacabra-322
Did you read my post?
They’re Globalist minions serving their Master.
“Who are they working for?”
Some might say Lucerfer. Others say Central Bankers. They work for themselves.
In reply to Treasonous cunts doing their… by gladih8r
McCain is obviously a traitor to his party and the people of the USA, which is well known.
What this bill has provided to us, however, is a list of other traitorous republicans. Any Republican that voted for this bill is the enemy and if they lose in 2018, fuck 'em. They need to be primaried out and new blood put in to replace them.
In reply to Did you read my post?… by Chupacabra-322
It puts downward pressure on Labor Rates and takes jobs from youth and citizens....
" It creates a giant amnesty (including for dangerous criminals), doesn’t build the wall, expands chain migration, keeps the visa... "
In reply to Treasonous cunts doing their… by gladih8r
Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
In other words, obey the law of the land to keep order and avoid chaos.
In reply to Jesus may have been saying… by TBT or not TBT
That's NOT what it means...it means 'Keep your authorities straight'.
"Ceasar" is entitled to your obedience, EXCEPT where such would conflict with God's laws, which are presumed to be superior. Earthly rulers are 'entitled' to SOME things, and the Scripture reminds you render those things to him, but it also makes clear that there are other things you give only to God. (Regardless of how much 'chaos' it would cause.)
There is no "Divine right of Kings" in the Bible. ALL earthly authorities are subject to God.
In reply to Jesus said "Render to Caesar… by Mr Twitch
No no no, you're talking about Jesus (pn: hey-suse). Not our Jesus(Jeezus)!
In reply to i hope you're not talking… by ted41776
same guy, we all have bad mornings.....
In reply to i hope you're not talking… by ted41776
That guy was Anna Navarro's brother.
In reply to i hope you're not talking… by ted41776
lol
In reply to That guy was Anna Navarro's… by loveyajimbo
please find a way to deport her...
In reply to That guy was Anna Navarro's… by loveyajimbo
You mean Dave Navarro?
In reply to That guy was Anna Navarro's… by loveyajimbo
You mean Dave Navarro?
In reply to That guy was Anna Navarro's… by loveyajimbo
Had that been a white dick, he'd been tossed in jail.
In reply to i hope you're not talking… by ted41776
Would it have been so triggering to just say hey this Dem proposal preserves the chain migration that has transformed swaths of America into shitholes, and is a non starter with any continuation of that in there?
In reply to Chuck Loves Jesus… by E.F. Mutton
I prefer the argument that—don’t brag about it—50,000 new jobs are NOTHING, when we must absorb 800,000 DACAs and millions of their relatives, plus new illegals inspired by another mass amnesty.
In reply to Would it have been so… by TBT or not TBT
The mass amnesty's from the past did in fact inspire many more millions to cross the border.
Anyone who thinks the number granted amnesty and given legal status will be just 1.8 million is mistaken. I also did not research but where in the actual laws is it required that "family" be granted legal status when one becomes "legal"?
The writing truly is on the wall. The transition of the country will continue at a faster pace, there is no chance of a reversal. Now that the SJW's and feminists have taken this as one of their equality causes the pressure for increases (legal) will not lessen.
There are many historic and current examples to show your children what is in store for them. The more aggressive and cohesive races will NOT be kind. You can also expect the push for more muslim to ramp up, they are already made out to be so cute and quaint. And with that - F Y rural south Tejas for going out of your way to proudly welcome these muslim invaders and touting this as a show of how progressive you have become. Idiots.
In reply to I prefer the argument that… by Endgame Napoleon
Facts and clear descriptions are very, Very, VERY triggering.
They should be used in most circumstances.
In reply to Would it have been so… by TBT or not TBT
You're obviously not with the Democrat Program.
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
Yep. Flooding the country with 3rd world criminals while confiscating our firearms and then promising the government will protect us is not the type of pogrom I can get behind.
In reply to You're obviously not with… by Dumpster Elite
Trump can end this debate TOMORROW. Order the military to seal the border. No wall needed.
2,000 mile border at 10 solders per mile = 20,000 troops. No big deal. Say adios to guns, drugs and illegals LITERALLY TOMORROW. No need for lawyers, judges or courts. Just turn them around back where they came from.
If dems won't agree to sensible immigration rules, start deporting "dreamers" now. Anybody over 19 is a good start. When they are gone the debate ends.
In reply to Yep. Flooding the country… by Pure Evil
Why don't the Dreamers, dream about fixing their own fucked up country?
In reply to Trump can end this debate… by mkkby
They cannot fix it, because their country is a product of their culture. If their culture was conducive to contributing to a successful country, they would have a successful country. Mexico has great wealth and resources. It has been under the control of the ancestors of the current population for 400 years. It has been an independent country for 197 years. It has been gently treated, having only been occupied for two years, even after our Army and Marines marched into Mexico City in 1847.
Unless you feel that Mexicans are just stupid, which I do not, there is a cultural problem with Mexicans that has prevented them from making their country a 1st world country. If they come in to the US very slowly, so that they are forced to adapt to our culture, they will not detract from our country. However, bringing them in, en-masse, allows them to preserve, and even be proud, of the culture that has caused them to need to flee Mexico in the 1st place, replacing the culture of the country they are fleeing to, with the one of the country they are fleeing from.
We also see this behavior in Californians that flee CA because of the high taxes, and then agitate for more government services and regulations in the states they flee to.
In reply to Why don't the Dreamers,… by STP
The difference between the USA and Mexico (and the rest of South America) is that the US was dominated by a Protestant population and everything to the south of the US is dominated by Catholicism.
Work ethics mean something.
In reply to This is the problem with… by Kafir Goyim
They're not "Mexicans", they're Mayan or Indios. Have you ever heard of a drunk Indian? That's one in the same.
Mexican's are Indians.
In reply to This is the problem with… by Kafir Goyim
Act of Congress, it requires. They started it...
https://www.thoughtco.com/posse-comitatus-act-military-on-border-3321286
When nine hundred years old you become, look this good you will not.
In reply to Trump can end this debate… by mkkby
What's so difficult about protecting our borders and preventing the same bullshit to occur again?
For me and you? Nothing. For the NWO, Satanic cult? Everything.
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
Dual citizen legislators.
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
Jews don’t want it to happen, so it doesn’t happen. Also no one kills jews for doing this, so it keeps happening. That’s what’s so difficult.
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
FUCKING TREASON!!!
what else would you call it??
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
See Nicholas Cruz....
In reply to What's so difficult about… by Stan522
This is all about Dems trying to get 1.8 million illegals a DEM voting card so that they can overturn the will of the people for ever. This is complete bullshit and the assholes on the left know it.
If Trump wants to give them citizenship in 15 years in exchange for all the other security issues being agreed to, by all means. I don't agree with it, but it'd work long term. No fucking way these illegals get voting rights in the near term and I can't fucking believe any GOP members would go along with this!
In reply to that's 1.8 million voters… by ted41776
That means employers still have access to their cheap, welfare-augmented, pay-per-birth workforce, with their monthly welfare and child-tax-credit welfare, helping them to undercut underemployed, non-welfare-eligible citizens in the job market, so NO, it is not okay.
Citizens always have the third branch of government, which may be the only responsive branch.
https://www.google.com/search?q=breitbart%20bakery%20sued%20employing%2…
In reply to This is all about Dems… by chubbar
Got fuck all to do with the will of the people ... got everything to do with smashing the constitution.
The USA constitution does not fit into the globalist NWO.
Ditto quite a few other countries.
In reply to This is all about Dems… by chubbar
Pagination