As the United States Army marches towards acquiring the LSAT (Lightweight Small Arms Technologies) light machine gun for their infantry, Russia’s Defense Ministry recently purchased the newest family of Kalashnikov assault rifles for Russian soldiers.
Russian soldier aims the new AK-12 assault rifle. (Source: Sergey Bobylev, TASS)
The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed in January that it acquired advanced Kalashnikov AK-12 and AK-15 assault rifles for service, which shoot 5.45×39 mm and 7.62×39 mm cartridges, respectively.
“A decision has been made on the AK-12 and the AK-15. The submachine guns have been recommended as armament in the ground forces, the airborne force and [naval] infantry,” the Kalashnikov press office said in January, according to Russian News Agency TASS.
AK-15 (left) and AK-12. (Source: Vasily Raksha)
Kalashnikov Group CEO Alexei Krivoruchko told TASS that a series of field training exercises were completed with the advanced assault rifles last year. He added that the firearms manufacturer would be shipping the advanced weapons to the Russian Armed Forces in 2018.
“New Kalashnikov rifles combine famous, battle-proven high reliability with modern ergonomics, increased hit probability and capabilities to effectively use all modern accessories, from red dot, night and IR sights to underbarrel grenade launchers, forward grips, lasers and flashlights, sound suppressors and more.
AK-12 and AK-15 rifles share most of its arts and assemblies, with key differences being in the ammunition used. AK-12 is chambered for Russian Army standard issue 5.45×39 ammunition, while AK-15 is chambered for older, but still very popular 7.62×39 ammunition. “Kalashnikov” group also designed compact versions of both rifles, known as AK-12K and AK-12K, which are better suited for CQB use by Special Forces, or as Personal Defense Weapons for heavy armament and vehicle crews,” the Kalashnikov Group said in a press statement.
The AK-12 and AK-15 specifications:
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Caliber: 5.45х39 (AK-12) or 7.62х39 (AK-15)
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Length, overall: 34-37 inches
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Length, shoulder stock folded: 27 inches
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Barrel length: 16.33 inches
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Weight, with empty magazine: 7.7 lbs
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Rate of fire: 700 rounds/min
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Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Russia Beyond Tests The AK-12 Assult Rifle:
The advanced assault rifles are part of the Russian military’s “Ratnik” program, which is designed to create future infantry combat systems, including upgraded body armor, high-tech kevlar helmets with special eye monitor (thermal, night vision monocular, flashlight), and communication systems. Initially, only Russian Spetsnaz will receive the AK-12 as part of the Ratnik program, while ground troops will continue using AK-74 into the early 2020s.
According to Dmitry Semizorov, the CEO of the Central Research Institute of Precision Machine-Making, Russia’s Ratnik combat gear has been successfully tested in the Syrian civil war.
“You all probably know that the Ratnik was used in Syria and I want to say that the combat gear proved its worth during combat operations. We checked the combat outfit that was used in difficult situations in one way or another. I want to assure you that none of the elements of the combat gear’s protection was ever pierced,” said Semizorov.
Pic of #Russian special forces in #Palmyra desert #Homs #Syria pic.twitter.com/PGwd93SklC
— Islamic World Update (@islamicworldupd) March 25, 2017
Russian special forces men in #Palmyra city, #Syria ; armed with ak - 12 Attack rifle pic.twitter.com/eGTWx15gqf
— Mahmoud Gamal (@mahmouedgamal44) June 22, 2017
While the global arms race between Washington and Moscow is clearly evident, what we do know today is that both countries are rapidly modernizing their standard military rifles before the next major shooting war.
Comments
Mmmm 7.62x39...
Jesus Christ the 107 and 108 were far better. Look at that barrel shake! You'll notice he didn't show any target shooting.
I'm sticking with the Lithgow "Atrax."
In reply to Mmmm 7.62x39... by dirty fingernails
That mode lever looked like cheap stamped metal. WTF? That 2-shot burst is a nice add-on, though. Automatic is a good way to waste a lot of ammo. Picatinny rail is nice. Love the see through cut-outs to check ammo level, too. Nice touch.
In reply to Jesus Christ the 107 and 108… by D503
The point of the AK has always been it's cheap enough to give to everyone.
Compare the Sten and Grease guns with the Thompson submachine gun. They started WWII with Thompsons, ended it with Stens and M3s.
FWIW, AK seem to be taking their eyes off the ball. AR15s are coming in cheaper these days.
In reply to That mode lever looked cheap… by HRH of Aquitaine 2.0
realllly like the 2-round burst option. yo! ATF! give me that, and I'll STFU about full-auto! deal?
spoiler alert: no, of course not. if they let that happen, full-grown adults would run around putting their eyes out, or something. God I hate the nanny state
In reply to The point of the AK has… by css1971
https://www.springfield-armory.com/products/saint-edge-ar15-5-56/
depending on your platform it is called a "Binary" trigger or BFS
https://www.franklinarmory.com/products/binary-firing-system-gen-iii-tr…
And then there was the cutout for mag visibility (yawn)
https://www.magpul.com/products/pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m3-window
here is the Saint I own with a binary installed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQgMrv3wFBM
I watched the video and the guy shooting and I thought what a cunt, what a colossal cunt, special forces special with a BFS and shooting the mud in a field. The guy's posture with the shooting screamed cunt.
So really if the legislators in DC didn't legislate the trigger assemblies and keep the prices high I'd fucking yawn even mores o and say so fucking what on their new gun and point out that the free-float is more accurate, that the variable adjustment gas more efficient, and that that rifle and the hardware was really just catching up with 2018, again a huge fucking yawn.
https://www.franklinarmory.com/products/franklin-armory-bfsiii-ar-s1
But really.. big fucking Yawn
Oh you can get one anywhere and technically illegal for "sale" in the states above.
What cunts.. yawn
You could visit any reputable gun show and buy one.. with cash
In reply to realllly like the 2-round… by vato poco
Do you shoot with your floated barrel on a rest? I don't.
In reply to https://www.springfield… by Dilluminati
I likey.
In reply to Do you shoot with your… by boattrash
Don't buy into the anti-gun narrative. It's not about nannying you for your own safety. It's about maintaining a steeper firepower differential over you so you are easier to control.
In reply to realllly like the 2-round… by vato poco
Agreed - the whole point of the AK has been the peoples sub machine gun.....
In reply to The point of the AK has… by css1971
they legislated a cheaper trigger assembly maybe.
In reply to Agreed - the whole point of… by NMA
Submachineguns shoot pistol cartridges not rifle cartridges. Most submachineguns like the Sten fire from an open bolt. Machineguns with the exception of the Bren and a few others fire from a closed bolt. In assault rifles and battle rifles it is necessary for the bolt to be locked into the barrel before the round fires. Submachineguns are indeed very cheap by comparison to make to battle rifles and assault rifles.
In reply to Agreed - the whole point of… by NMA
God forbid, you quote the youtube video linked and "parrot" that nonsense. "Special forces binary shooting" some Russian special forces guy told that shill that and then went home drank vodka and ate a potato and pissed himself laughing when the guy parroted that.
Also standard is an adjustable stock?
The AR platform commercially fueled by consumer demands now offers much more technically accurate systems than most nations rifles. Right off the top of my head I think of three really innovative rifles.
Saint Edge (springfield was the company that banned selling to Dicks) their products so superior they were like who needs Dicks? This is accurate as far as the human eye can see and with optic MOA at 300
https://www.springfield-armory.com/products/saint-edge-ar15-5-56/
Ruger Precision now we're talking MOA at 1000 yards, these are really innovative rifles offering marksman accuracy just technically not available until somewhat recently at a consumer price point. That is allot of rifle and technology at that pricepoint, similar to the saint edge, setting a new standard.
https://www.ruger.com/products/precisionRifle/models.html
In pistol carbine again.. give it to Ruger
https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
For a fun gun.. home defense.. innovative.. economical.. that is a damn tough price point to beat
MOA at about 120 yards.. but I'm tempted to get one
In reply to The point of the AK has… by css1971
Man.
that last Ruger?
Ugly as sin. The Edsel of rifles. Get a Sig 9 pdw.
9 isn’t a bench round, ffs, why try to make it one.
In reply to God forbid, you quote the… by Dilluminati
I have allot of fun with the 357 in carbine with the 77/357 which as far as reloading doesn't require any trimming of the brass, have the 77/357 and the R92 in stainless. The 9 depending on the chamber also doesn't need trimming. So can get picky and that isn't true of all chambers, but you could reasonably reload 9 very easy and pair that with a pistol.
I lean to revolvers and 38/357 and carbine for most range activities as the two ranges I'm a member of only go out to 300. The pistol carbine as an example the 77/357 is like a 22 in recoil, very easy to shoot and I did the aftermarket trigger
Mine looks identical to this but Bushnell dusk to dawn scope
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/reviews/ruger-m77357-review/
Here is the 92
https://www.gunsamerica.com/983784644/Rossi-92-Stainless-Carbine-16--35…
I no longer really use the 30-30 for bush deer hunting and in stand use the 77/357 and on hoof the 92.
To own one is to grow to like it, the 92 if I could "only carry one rifle" would be my choice.
Ironically.. the 357 round is heavier than the .223 On average the .223 is 55 grain and the 357 158/140 it is not a more efficient round, however it is versatile in the eastern 1/2 of the US and again the easiest bar none to reload.
I have been considering relocating to be closer to Peacemaker in WV which of course has 1000 yards on Wednesday, I'd trim a 308 if I could get down and shoot regularly.. I have the dies for 223 and swedge for the crimp.. but find cheap rounds at the shows
For the $ and time the 357 pays to reload, and the 38's.. but the trimming and the the hassle of 223 not convinced.. with a carbide die I just clean the brass and don't even lube with that brass..
But the idea of trim, lube, and swedge a crimp? again why I like pistol for recreational range shooting.
With spouse and kids we can go down and run through 400 very easily.. I load in batch of 1000
Here is a good video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Gz6FcY5Vg
You can go to Steve Gunz
https://stevesgunz.com/
And really smooth these out..
they are "not" junk.. I suggest the SS however because rust just sucks.. :-)
https://store.stevesgunz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&p…
In reply to Man. that last Ruger? Ugly… by RumpleShitzkin
Love my wheel guns.
45 colt is my favorite to shoot...of anything
peppy and smokey
In reply to I have allot of fun with the… by Dilluminati
Ruger must be stealing from HiPoint.
Winning!!
I bought my wife a Beretta CX4 Storm in 9MM -the recoil of her 20 gauge semi auto was getting a little heavy.
I will admit with the 30 round mag full of 147 grain Federal HST it is a pretty sweet HD gun.
Almost no recoil - light easy to point and shoot.
I have not tested the velocity of the 147 grain HST out of the 16" barrel - but shooting steel plates it sure seems like it hits a lot harder than a 9MM pistol.
The trigger does suck - but at close range it is good enough.
In reply to Man. that last Ruger? Ugly… by RumpleShitzkin
The AR platform still has one MAJOR downside compared to the AK for actual extended combat operations - fucking gas impingement, which is the equivalent of shitting where you eat. Luckily these days upgrading to a gas piston upper isn't a big deal.
In reply to God forbid, you quote the… by Dilluminati
go ruger ar..
there is so many options in the consumer market, really a 6lb ar like the edge in your hand shooting and compared to something oh ten years ago? Huge difference..
I think well of Ruger if you couldn't tell
https://ruger.com/products/ar556/models.html
I wanted the best for accuracy.. went springfield, yes I spent more, yes could have built myself, bought a springfield
In reply to The AR platform still has… by jughead
Anytime anyone asks me, I send them a spreadsheet of parts options and where to buy them.
then I invite them out to build it and shoot it.
lots of value, education and pure joy in rolling your own AR.
Ruger ARs are great, though. A touch heavy and a touch spendy, but they do what you want them to right off the rack.
In reply to go ruger ar.. there is so… by Dilluminati
I go to the shows and pick them up. I see custom builds there and can sort of "feel it" my spouse claimed the Saint.. with muzzle and stock adjustment she likes it. I leave it adjusted to her and don't mess with it.. I'm more old school, fine at bench with a bolt
In reply to Anytime anyone asks me, I… by RumpleShitzkin
Saint is a sexy rifle. No doubt.
It just came along late in the game for me. Can’t justify another AR. Mainly because that would put me in the market for another safe. That leads to more empty space to be tempted to fill.
Im trying to commit now to loving the ones I have and unloading those that really don’t do it for me anymore.
deflationary on the hardware side, inflationary on the ammo side
In reply to I go to the shows and pick… by Dilluminati
I fucking hate the upper assembly of an AR. Clever as hell, but complex, and complex gets you killed from a reliability perspective.
For the range I bring the AR, for home defense I use the AK.
In reply to The AR platform still has… by jughead
for reliability I use a 357 revolver for home defense, that keeps it really- really reliable
In reply to I fucking hate the upper… by Barney Fife
I have lots of choices for a beside weapon, and my Mossberg 12 gauge with low recoil number 4 buckshot is right there ready to go. Paraphrasing Clint Smith would you rather hit the bad guy with one round or a dozen each time you pull the trigger? Shotguns are designed to removed chunks of body parts..
https://youtu.be/_APnhoIYeD0
In reply to for reliability I use a 357… by Dilluminati
I normally shoot 500 or more rounds between cleaning - and have never experienced a failure on either of my ARs. I shoot a mix of ammo including shitty steel case.
I know several guys that only clean their target range ARs when they start to have reliability issues and they go thousands of rounds between cleaning.
I think what you are saying was true years ago - not so much now.
In reply to The AR platform still has… by jughead
I own a Ruger RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor. Absolutely amazing rifle and a tackdriver right out of the box. Had it Cerakoted in Coyote Tan and Black and then topped it with a Leupold Mark IV with Horus reticle.
It's my long range firestick of my collection.
In reply to God forbid, you quote the… by Dilluminati
I have visited Peacemaker
http://www.peacemakernational.com/ranges
Want to get one, looking at a specific closed community close by, just market is frothy.
I know it is neanderthal and the creedmoor is a better load, but will go 308 because of the prepper in me
The closest range is about 4 miles and goes out 150 yards is members only private club.
The other is about 15 miles and has 300 yards and is CMP (more public oriented but still requires membership)
I have spoken with people at Peacemaker and though they have a SIG shop there on site see allot of the RPR
They close the range and shoot 1000 on Wednesdays, you have to qual for that and keep MOA 1 at 100, 2 at 200, 10 at 1000, et
The RPR place within 4 at 1000 reliably out of the box.
On Wednesdays the big boys show up and the RPR is a cost efficient way to join that club..
But some of those guys do stuff at 1000 that boggles your mind.. as if it were at 100, all sorts of rifles.. some very-very expensive
If you get a chance visit it is genuinely one of the nicest ranges in the eastern US and nice area of the country to drive through
In reply to I own a Ruger RPR in 6.5… by Barney Fife
Born, raised and went to college in WV.
mountaineer to this day.
That’s a nice range. I’d never heard of it. One downside, though.
Note Gerrardstown, WV’s proximity to swamp areas to the east.
Closer than I’d wanna be.
In reply to I have visited Peacemaker… by Dilluminati
Huh? The barrel wasn't "shaking". The whole damn gun was. BTW, I have buddies with full auto M-16's. Try shooting from the shoulder on full auto and keep even it from "shaking".
Not humanly possible.
In reply to Jesus Christ the 107 and 108… by D503
Bullets for everyone.
In reply to Mmmm 7.62x39... by dirty fingernails
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In reply to Mmmm 7.62x39... by dirty fingernails
Dear Santa . . . . .
In reply to Mmmm 7.62x39... by dirty fingernails
My old Mosin Nagant rifle still hits hard ... 7.62x54.
In reply to Mmmm 7.62x39... by dirty fingernails
7.62x54R mosin nagant.
In reply to My old Mosin Nagant rifle… by GOSPLAN HERO
F/X trades that don't make any sense are currently taking place.
What's happening is not ordinary.
Can you expand on that, YC?
In reply to F/X trades that don't make… by Yen Cross
I've NEVER ever in 20+ years of trading, seen a four hour chart under the <zero> line for almost four weeks.
What's the point of a four-five, or even eight hour chart in the first place?
This is offshore flows, after black out period, being used for buy backs.
This shit makes me sick to my stomach.
In reply to Can you expand on that, YC? by mvsjcl
Buy backs for whom? What currency? What are you seeing, dude, for FFS spit it out! Why is it making you sick? For which country?
In reply to I've NEVER ever in 20+… by Yen Cross
Find a teacher somewhere else.
Margin management asshole!
In reply to Buy backs for whom? What… by HRH of Aquitaine 2.0
It isn't my area of expertise. Why wouldn't I learn here? No need to be a dick about it, either.
In reply to Find a teacher somewhere… by Yen Cross
the man's got a point, YC. you barge in to an AK thread spouting some random bullshit about FX trades. then you present yourself as an expert, and thus worthy of threadjacking and presumably, questions about your most rude threadjack. and then you go all asshole when asked ... questions.
I bet I can guess your political ideology
In reply to It isn't my area of… by HRH of Aquitaine 2.0
Yes, he's a fuckin' paper pusher!
In reply to the man's got a point, YC… by vato poco
Dude!... You're babbling like a lunatic about FX in the midst of comments about AK's... Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you?
In reply to Find a teacher somewhere… by Yen Cross
Espresso with red bull chasers can make anyone seem a little short.
Is YenX a little short?
In reply to Dude!... You're babbling… by DoctorFix
He tripped over his airsoft rifle and hit his head on a tree. He's just more confused than normal. Mommy put him to bed.
In reply to Dude!... You're babbling… by DoctorFix
Hey YC, somebody has to buy this shit if the Fed is no longer doing so? I guess the ESF is too preoccupied with Gold and Bonds. Even the Yen Cross doesn't work any longer!! So it's a case of, share the wear?
EM issues don't make much sense either. Late 2017 when DXY was 103 everything was unicorns and rainbows. Now when DXY has a dead cat bounce to 92 there is an "EM crisis". Argentina excepted.
As usual, when things don't make sense, something is going on behind the curtain?
In reply to Find a teacher somewhere… by Yen Cross
Shut up all you whiners yen cross can post whatever whenever he wants.
In reply to Find a teacher somewhere… by Yen Cross
what are you, his mom?
In reply to Shut up all you whiners yen… by willmont
"what are you, his mom?"
I think more like
Personal fluffer.
Course it could also be his mom.
In reply to what are you, his mom? by vato poco
Pagination