Yesterday we explained that one of the reasons why Deutsche Bank stock had tumbled to the lowest level since 2016, is because its top shareholder, China's largest and most distressed conglomerate, HNA Group, had reportedly defaulted on a wealth management product sold on Phoenix Finance according to the local press reports. While HNA's critical liquidity troubles have been duly noted here and have been widely known, the fact that the company was on the verge (or beyond) of default, and would be forced to liquidate its assets imminently, is what sparked the selling cascade in Deutsche Bank shares, as investors scrambled to frontrun the selling of the German lender which is one of HNA's biggest investments.
Now, one day later, we find that while Deutsche Bank may be spared for now - if not for long - billions in US real estate will not be, and in a scene right out of the Wall Street movie Margin Call, HNA has decided to be if not smartest, nor cheat, it will be the first, and has begun its firesale of US properties.
According to Bloomberg, HNA is marketing commercial properties in New York, Chicago, San Francisco and Minneapolis valued at a total of $4 billion as the indebted Chinese conglomerate seeks to stave off a liquidity crunch. The marketing document lists six office properties that are 94.1% leased, and one New York hotel, the 165-room Cassa, with a total value of $4 billion.
One of the flagship properties on the block is the landmark office building at 245 Park Ave., according to a marketing document seen by Bloomberg.
HNA bought that skyscraper less than a year ago for $2.21 billion, one of the highest prices ever paid for a New York office building. The company also is looking to sell 850 Third Ave. in Manhattan and 123 Mission St. in San Francisco, according to the document. The properties are being marketed by an affiliate of brokerage HFF.
This is just the beginning as HNA’s massive debtload - which if recent Chinese reports are accurate the company has started defaulting on - is driving the company to sell assets worldwide.
According to Real Capital Analytics estimates, HNA owns more than $14 billion in real estate properties globally. The problem is that the company has a lot more more debt. As of the end of June, HNA had 185.2 billion yuan ($29.3 billion) of short-term debt -- more than its cash and earnings can cover. The company's total debt is nearly 600 billion yuan or just under US$100 billion. Which means that the HNA firesale is just beginning, and once the company sells the liquid real estate, it will move on to everything else, including its stake in all these companies, whose shares it has already pledged as collateral.
So keep a close eye on Deutsche Bank stock: while HNA may have promised John Cryan it won't sell any time soon, companies tend to quickly change their mind when bankruptcy court beckons.
Finally, the far bigger question is whether the launch of HNA's firesale will present a tipping point in the US commercial (or residential) real estate market. After all, when what until recently was one of the biggest marginal buyers becomes a seller, it's usually time to get out and wait for the bottom.
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And so it begins.......again.
Gotta check this out... got lotsa money on the sidelines right now.... and I'm always looking for a steal!
In reply to And so it begins.......again. by undercover brother
The CHINESE know the CATACLYSM is coming.
In reply to Gotta check this out... by toady
Federal Reserve / Private Central Bankers would not be doing this if Hillary Cankles Clinton was president.
In reply to The CHINESE know the… by lloll
What another Chinese corporate default? Real Estate in NYC will get bought.
In reply to And so it begins.......again. by undercover brother
If you know Chinese (and I know a LOT of them)...I've never met one...not a single one, who did not believe with all their heart that you could EVER lose buying real estate. You may as well just bow out of the bidding if they want a house, because if they pay 10% over fair-value, then...their property is worth it. Eventually, 10% + 10% + 10% starts to add up...and they don't care.
In reply to What another Chinese… by Quantify
Yea, you figure someone like DB would start to learn after three or four cycles of this happening since the 1970s.
In reply to And so it begins.......again. by undercover brother
I thought it was over for now, unless the conspiracy is true for a planned crash...seems like a controlled crash.
Pastor Lindsey Williams, although he is full of it now, used to get good information from his elite butty, Ken Frohm. And he told Williams that "China is the big one" and they are going to crash everything (Ken was part of this elite group that controls the world finances and oil). He never elaborated though to Williams as to what he meant. So maybe China will be blamed for a major crash if it happens. By the way, Ken Frohm is dead now and Williams is now wrong on everything. When Ken was alive, a lot of the stuff he said actually did happen.
In reply to And so it begins.......again. by undercover brother
I can't wait for the Chinese oligarchs and all their family members, cousins, kids of cousins, kids of kids, etc...to start liquidating their property in Southern California...and how is it, that the National Realtors Association has such influence that we will sell a house to ANYONE regardless of their citizenship status? I'd be okay with it, if they earned money the old fashioned way. But since they basically earned their money by monopoly hand outs from the Communist party, who use slave + 10% wages, while their family comes to San Marino to pay cash for 4 multi-million dollar homes....just pisses me off
In reply to I thought it was over for… by mailll
I have a mansion, forget the price Ain't never been there, they tell me it's nice I live in hotels, tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all They say I'm crazy but I have a good time I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime Life's been good to me so far My Maserati does one-eighty-five I lost my license, now I don't drive I have a limo, ride in the back I lock the doors in case I'm attacked I make hit records, my fans they can't wait They write me letters, tell me I'm great So I got me an office, gold records on the wall Just leave a message, maybe I'll call Lucky I'm sane after all I've been through (Everybody say I'm cool) (He's cool) I can't complain but sometimes I still do Life's been good to me so far I go to parties, sometimes until four It's hard to leave when you can't find the door It's tough to handle this fortune and fame Everybody's so different, I haven't changed They say I'm lazy but it takes all my time (Everybody say oh, yeah) (Oh, yeah) I keep on going, guess I'll never know why Life's been good to me so far Yeah, yeah, yeah "Life's Been Good" Joe Walsh
rubin ? is that you ?
In reply to I have a mansion, forget the… by syzygysus
Time to change the batter
In reply to I have a mansion, forget the… by syzygysus
Starting to feel like an unraveling.
Seems like just yesterday when the new economic Land of the Rising Sun, Japan, was buying up all the US real estate, only to get whipsawed a few years down the line.
Been saying that for years to all my distressed friends that thought the Chinese are going to take over by buying all the real estate. But, a vast majority of what they we're buying is crap that wouldn't sell anyway.
Buy the same crap back for pennies on the dollar.
Did the same thing to the Japanese in the 90's.
In reply to Seems like just yesterday… by Emergency Ward
trump might be wishing he was back in the real estate ... so many bargains ...
Now that would be funny, HNA blowing up DB. Merkel declares war on XI lol
'eh
Around 2-ish today
Fed will come out
Take all rate hikes off of the table for the rest of the year
and
back to bull run
When the only money that matters tells you what you are really worth... And more importantly "why" (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-08/dow-crashes-over-400-points-v…)
As if it couldn't be made any more crystal clear with "emphasis"...
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-08/you-buy-dip-look-one-chart
No wonder China is sending a "care package" to it's border with the DPRK
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-06/china-deploys-300000-soldiers…
In reply to When the only money that… by Son of Captain Nemo
Just like the Japanese in the 80s....overbought overpriced and ended up losing it all and a lot of yen in the process..
shit is gonna hit the "global" fan
Is this bad?
Banks will be fine everyone don't worry....
I'll buy that building for 1 billion. I'll start a gofund me account.
The Chinese are greedy investors, they got burned this time.
Commercial real estate in my opinion, is going to become a sink hole before any bounce.
It's got the perfect storm bearing down on it.
Technology shrinking workforces.
Remote work capabilities at all time high.
Amazon / tech crushing retail spaces.
Interest rates rising.
There will be a crater three hundred miles wide before this is over.
Now we may get to see how good the communists are at capitalism...
We're all beholden to the whims of the Inscrutable Central Bankers.
In reply to Now we may get to see how… by economessed
Remember when the Japanese bought Pebble Beach?
Remember when a Tsunami strikes, the Tide Goes Out first..
maybe that was what Buffet was talking About..