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 >>/140307/
Yep. I don't have the one of her puking in the hospital anymore (not that I want to see it) but it was weird how people tried to deny she was anorexic/bulimic at the time even with all these pics going around. Her parents forced her into the hospital many times so I never understood why so many people claimed her parents never tried to help her, or that they had no idea she was mentally ill.












 >>/140308/
I believe it was the psychologist or psychiatrist who forced her, as they had a scale in the office and weighed her, showing she was dangerously underweight. 

I also remember a vocaroo from an officially anon r9k-gal who sounded JUST like Ciara and discussing Dialectical Behavioural therapy, which was the first time I heard about it. DBT is used for BPD, and would be exactly what they'd assign for Ciara.










 >>/140354/
lol I remember someone finding that lady and saying that's what they'd think a 38 year old Ciara would look like. If Ciara-san continued on her ways, then yes. I think if she had been sent to a hospital after her first big OD, she might have been shocked enough to be more cautious and survive.

Girls like Ciara who have SOME sense often do hard drugs, party around, then clean up and basically "win" at life with no reprecussions since they're cute/pretty girls. As long as they don't die, and get married by 35, they basically can't lose. Ciara however, "lost". 

I know so many girls who were into heroin, coke, or meth, and they were party sluts who took miles of dick for drugs. Now they're wholesome middle class ladies with children and otherwise seem totally respectable.









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Ciara's killers in list of importance:

1. Noah
2. Ciara.
3. Jay.
4. JT

Noah introduced her to heroin and benzos, and taught her how to buy drugs online at 14. She went from a MLP:FiM obsessed kid to heroin between 13-14. She was always going to be weird, and had dark triad tendencies, but this gave her a bad opioid addiction. Strangely, Ciara never mentioned Noah again, and given the amount of opioid deaths, it's not even clear if he's alive or not. 

Then Ciara-san herself. She was fine with her lifestyle, and scamming, drugs, and sex, seemed to be her only life goals. 

Jay was a sketchy guy who went into a devil's arrangement with Ciara. By giving her a place outside of her parents home, it allowed Ciara free reign to scam and do hard drugs, and her condition continued to deteriorate. He knew if he was ever harsh with her, she'd just leave him for another guy to mooch from.

Finally there's JT, who agreed to buy drugs and party with her in that hotel room. His role is more of naivity and negligence, where he gave her Narcan to bring her back once, but then failed to deliver her to a hospital. He likely felt he might get into legal trouble for this when you really can't. If he called a cab, then drove to the emergency and said she OD'd, he administered narcan, can you look after her for the night and check up (and this is all factual), Ciara would have likely survived. 

In his write-up, JT says they went to bed. I suspect there was yet more drug taking and Ciara OD'd again during the night. He awoke to her dead.

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 >>/140561/
Jay was like 15 years older than her.  A stalker who tracked her down at Target.  A ped-O who was in his 30s who started dating her when she was 17.  No doubt he was a massive enabler and a massive negative influence in her life.  

Otherwise, she wouldn't have deteriorated so hard and ended up looking like this while with him.


























 >>/140941/
He was an enabler with a devil's arrangement for Ciara-san. She wanted a place to stay that was far away from her parent's preying eyes, and he wanted a teen gf. He knew if he ever tried to reign her in she'd simply leave and do the same with some other loser.


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How long before she allegedly died did she make this video?  She seemed to be at a real low point in the vid--selling custom porn for drug money it seems.  Was this just weeks before she died?  Was this shot at Jay's house?  Who paid her for the vid?



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 >>/141272/

Hey, RETARD, when you or whoever made up that phony as fuck death cert for Ciara, you put the WRONG fucking year for the date of certification.  You put 2025--FIVE FUCKING YEARS AFTER SHE DIED.  Talk about being RETARDED.

Also, Medical Examiner's offices in PA have NOTHING to do with death certifications.  

PA death certificates are solely created and issued by the fucking STATE (not town or city where people die) and they are handled by the: Division of Vital Records
Death Certificate Processing Unit
New Castle, PA 16103

Also, do a little research and see what an actual PA death cert looks like.  It looks a fuckton different than that phony bullshit you made.

Also, you might want to check who was the Chief Medical Examiner in the city of Philly in 2020.  Cuz is sure as fuck wasn't Lindsay Simon, you fucking RETARD.


 >>/141272/
 >>/141276/

And still ZERO proof that she's actually dead.

Yet, we have people taking the time to doctor fake death certificates for her in a lame attempt to trick others into THINKING she's dead.

Suspicious??

Reminiscent of the time back in 2016 when she first made up a fake death certificate for herself??

Why so much effort to make FAKE death certificates if a real one actually exists??

Not to mention the fake memorial card of her.

I've never see a supposed real death with so much fakery, deception and utter mystery surrounding it.



 >>/141276/
> The Medical Examiner’s Office (MEO) does not provide death certificates. To get a death certificate, contact the Pennsylvania Department of Health.
https://www.phila.gov/services/birth-marriage-life-events/request-medical-examiner-records/




 >>/141276/
 >>/141287/
I recommend you call the phone number on the doc and ask them about the MEO case instead of filling up the thread with visceral schizo copium. If you're too shy for that, you can always e-mail them. This isn't a death certificate (issued by the BVS), but a cause of death report issued by the Coroner.

I asked for her cause of death under the RTK law back in April (that's why they certified it in april), and they produced the document for me pursuant to the RTK Law. I can give you the full e-mail convo if you like and you're free to check DKIM tags in the headers or whatnot to see if it's legitimate. 

>  Autopsy reports are expressly exempt from disclosure under Section 708(b)(20) of the RTKL; however, records of a decedent's name, and cause and manner of death are public records and available for immediate access under the RTKL.
https://www.openrecords.pa.gov/rtkl/about.cfm



























 >>/142332/
She probably would have become bloated like her mother. The only reason she was so thin was because she was severely anorexic half the time. At a healthy weight she was skinny fat, and you could tell she was genetically predisposed to weight gain from her facial fat.


does anyone have the full skype convos Eliza had with her orbiters? I remember a couple of names, like "Eaton", "ThirdReichard", etc.
reading that was an experience worth redoing



 >>/142426/
With AI and hours of videos that exist of her it’ll be possible to bring back a digital version of her that’s indistinguishable from reality. Not only that, but it’ll also be possible to make an entire feature length film about her with her exact mannerisms, voice, likeness ect.

Just give a few years and it’ll be like she never left.





 >>/142724/

ive pitched Ai bot version of her idea for years.  No one wants to do it for free, cause it will be actual work / job level stuff.   it could be done now.   Plus no disrespect to my fellow lovers of her, it needs to be we each get a stand alone copy, not we all share same one. 

anyways, i believe all technically doable by mid 2027 ish.

As to bringin back the original of her, 15 years, but i doubt id do it,


 >>/142809/

nneeevvvvvveerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



 >>/142735/
do you also have that text file where one of her orbiters sends a final message to Ciara, saying something like: "In hindsight, things would have never worked out"?
iirc it was from Neato
It was, all in all, a nice fuck you and goodbye type of message












Ciara's death seemed very sudden and anti-climatic, and didn't follow the normal story arcs so pepole didn't believe it. Ciara could not just suddenly die, there'd have to be a full hospital story arc for that to happen.






















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 >>/150803/

Would you rather of seen Ciara:

A) Have continued down her path of criminal activities and gotten sentenced to 10 years?

B) Become a full-blown street whore junkie, turning cheap tricks for dope money?

C) Become a full-blown troon like her sister Kate/Nate (and picrel person)?

Personally, I think her becoming a troon would have been interesting.



 >>/151010/

She probably would have just married some loser and continued to work dead end jobs until she got preggo and started being a mom.  Slight possibility she might have gone to college or a trade school like nursing school and had some kind of legit career.








 >>/151010/
That last picture with the buzz cut is the spitting image of Thomas Pynchon. Wow. 

 >>/150803/
Honestly, is anyone surprised Nate transitioned? She was always obsessed with anime boys and yaoi shit. That's usually what makes nerdy women transition. They wanna be the anime boys they drool over. Reverse AGP.





 >>/141276/
 >>/141373/
I called and they wouldn’t disclose information about this MEO case number because they said they require a next of kin’s photo ID and a new form to be filled to request a copy of a death certificate (in general, for all applicants). It can’t be requested by the public. 

Who are you? If you’re not related, this is a forgery. If it isn’t, tell us who you are.




Her morrisseyrocks account sometimes loses a follower and somehow gains a follwer despite the fact it is private. Unless someone else is running the account i cant explain what is going on.







The morrisseyrocks account lost a follower from 1996 to 1995. It will go back up again. Ive seen this happen more than once. Someone is using that account. Or maybe im just schizo and its nothing.









 >>/151974/

One of the original internet e-girls.

She was an unwitting "innovator" in what became a massive movement that eventually expanded into a universe of internet girls, including influencers, gaming influencers, OF girls, Youtubers, and TikTokers.

Had she been smart and focused, she could have parlayed her early fame/infamy into a lucrative career and made millions of dollars, especially if she did hardcore OF.

But, like many, she fell victim to illegal street drugs, which ended up killing her (allegedly).







 >>/152550/

her TikTok was takin off,  and some part of her realized could do main stream fame, and her past weirdness would be dismissed like other celebs w/ a weird past, but couldnt let go of the drugs


As for someone else would of done it anyways, sure , bur she was first,

as to sex tape, you dont want to see it,



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 >>/152570/

The only LEGAL XXX video (her over 18) that I know of is picrel.  It's a short video of her masturbating with a vibrator. She supposedly made it and sold it to some dude during her skelly phase towards the end. 

It's more sad, than sexy, but a Ciara curio nonetheless.




 >>/152806/

its painfully sad to see, dont see it if you ve not.  she looks like a woman in mid 50s dyin of cancer,

only part i like is Audio of it, knowin its really her makin sexy noises, but dont watch for video its sad,  i dont know  how she lloks so bad in it.  she looks worse in it than  videos in final day.



 >>/152913/
Pretty new. I remember just lurking a skype and a discord in high school (i think i was 14 or 15 at the time) for a breif period then i moved on. I wasnt that deep in the lore. I only recently learned that she keep posting content online until she passed away. The only stuff that i know about ciara/eliza is the from the 2015-16 period and its not a lot.






















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 >>/153437/
Many gals have had BPD before Ciara, and many otherwise wholesome quiet nerdy girls got into hard drugs. These two lasses are gals I know of, and around 2003-2008 were really hard into meth and pretty much everything else. They were the cutest little tweakers ever. 

Now? Both clean cut middle class ladies with husbands and families and children. You'd never know their background.

If Ciara calmed down and got over the hump, she would have ended up like this. Fent is just making everyone who dabbles in hard drugs drop dead. 

The one even did some podcast about finding her "long lost love" that she ditched at 13 to ride the drug fueled cock carousal for 20 years until coming back to him at 35 and getting married. It's presented as this cutesy story of lost love, but I know the real thing.


 >>/153437/

I'm sure her larcenous and druggie phase was just that, a phase.  I went thru the same thing as a teen.  I was a total little shit, stole everything I could, did tons of drugs, fucked people over, made my parents life a living hell.

But I fucking grew out of it.  Went to college and now own my own business and recently bought the building the business is in.  

Pretty sure she would have grown out of teen rebellion phase, too.  Sucks we don't get to see her do it.

 >>/153437/

Best Case:

quit drugs, over eatin disorders, Tik Tok close to 500K,  starts to Audition Calls for parts in rom coms, and appearances on comedy strems.  People say, But wat about crazy yout..... its quietly dismissed and swept under carpet,  

makes all old ppl from 4c rage when see at a party for famous ppl in LA



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 >>/153905/
Clicked the wrong one. The white girl with the latina baby is the gal on the right here with her face away from the camera.

Point being is a lot of ladies go through this druggie party girl phase, and some worse than others. Ciara was a lot worse but she could have easily bounced back. Eating disorder is another issue on top of it.


 >>/153914/
Ciara analogues from time past. 

Ciaras have been around forever, even Borderlines with drug problems. 

The big difference is that Fent is VERY nasty and easy to OD on, so the Ciaras of today aren't given a second chance. 

Angelic Ciara. Gone too soon. :(




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 >>/153921/
 >>/153924/
There's nothing left to discuss directly with Ciara-san as she's been in an urn since 2020. 

This is talking about the broader implications. Fentanyl deaths are wiping out the foolish druggie girls who are going through a hard drug phase that many (at least 60%) bounce back from rather than slip deeper and deeper. 

"Ciara" types (shy quiet girls with bpd who got a bit bonkers with drugs and sex) have been around forever. BPD does have a high chance of suicide or drug overdose however, but many manage to ride it through.











If it wasn't for Ciara normies would have never discovered r9k. She normalized druggie normies on that board and they all flooded there. We could have had our comfy board for lonely men where we distantly orbit cute girls like Rose or Agatha, instead this random BPD whore wanted to have all the attention for herself. Total BPD whore death.



I was thinking if i had a daughter one day in the distant future i might name her ciara. Its not that bad of a name. What are everyones thoughts on this? Do you think ciara is a good name?


 >>/154259/

Nah, cuz nobody knows how to pronounce it.  Ciara spent half her life telling people they were saying her name wrong.  "It's NOT CEE-ara, it's KEY-era!"

Just name your daughter something like Elsa-Jean or Alli-Rae.  Something easy to pronounce, but memorable.








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 >>/154505/

There's over 30,000 girls/women named Ciara in the world.  The name doesn't belong to Ciara Horan.  In fact, if you google "Ciara" all that pops up are pics of picrel.

So in 12 or 13 years, when some 12 or 13 yo girl named Ciara googles her first name, the chances of anything on Ciara Horan popping up are close to zero.

I think the name is pretty much scandal-free.





Here is a video from her youtube channel i was able to find. 

Its just a video about why she was on r9k alot when she was younger.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210127004313/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNeC704VlUQ&feature=youtu.be

Most of her youtube videos: https://web.archive.org/web/20210408013601/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ9RMCyhzW4C4NNmdPL52KA/videos

They might not work or fail to load or redirect to the youtube channel itself.





















 >>/156153/
Preponderant of evidence is towards death, among them total radio silence. An attention starved gal like Ciara can't stay off the internet for 5 solid years. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)#Definition

Normie lurking wayyyy outta my depth (let alone posting), but I think I know this Jay guy; can anybody give me more information about him? Former connections and states lived in? How seedy was he really when it came to Ciara’s treatment, and what is he up to these days? 

Obligatory “How new *are* you?” comments aside, don’t worry. I’m unlikely to ever post on here again.


 >>/156362/
Pretty sure he lived with his parents in the same state as Ciara. He wasn't that bad while actually dating her, but he did stalk her irl at her place of work after seeing her online and that's how he asked her out. Their actual relationship was alright. He was never abusive AFAIK.

 >>/156374/
1. he provided her a place of operations outside of her parents view. This allowed her to as hard drugs as she wanted and to scam and setup meetups (this is hwo she died)
2. He provided her with benzos himself as he was an addict. 

Crooked Ciara badly needed parental supervision at this time of her life.


 >>/156390/

I have strong reason to believe I know somebody whom he dates/dated; as such, I wanted to get a baseline for how he operated in his relationship with Ciara and line it up with current behaviors. Now, I still can’t get a confirmatory on this being him but the guy (Jay) has spent significant time in Florida and Texas as of recent.

Blames a lot of drug-oriented trauma on his “past relationship” and uses it against this new girl as munitions to emotionally manipulate her. If that’s in his known M.O., let me know.

As for what I’ll possibly do to him if I get confirmation, I’m not sure I’m gonna write it down here lol. I’m not even quite convicted on any one solution myself just yet. We’ll cross that bridge if we get there.





 >>/156820/
That’s someone else, I forget who. Johnny was the one who actually fucked her, I forget exactly how I pieced it together, but he didn’t admit to it openly. He posted some pic of a girl he fucked with his initials drawn on her with a marker, and upon closer examination I found out it was Ciara and the time he supposedly did it lined up with other things I knew about her activities/whereabouts at the time.

 >>/156362/
He found her dox off a /b/ thread since it was routinely counter spammed to deal with her threads there, then went to her work location listed. Eventually asked her out on dates, bonded over their benzo addictions, and came out officially as dating on her 18th birthday. After very minor pushback since the view of their relationship was overwhelmingly positive until about time she died, he modified his story saying he regularly shopped at her specific Target and then saw the dox realizing she worked there (retarded reason to motivate anyone if you’re already regularly seeing them in person).
After 18 (maybe even a little before since there were leaks of him being sexual with her before 18 conversation wise) she stayed with him doing whatever she wanted since he was both gullible believing everything she told him and laissez-faire about other people’s personal decisions, even if obviously self destructive he felt he had no right to try to influence or control her. 
To me it’s disturbing how openly supportive most of her orbiters were of his grooming, but despite the lies and damage control from both him plus Ciara I don’t think he was that manipulative. Haven’t interacted with him for years, but he was using his clout from the relationship to pursue girls in the same circles as Ciara last time I saw him.






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 >>/156820/
Guy Maimon's problem was treating Ciara like a normal ass human being, who wanted a relationship. Jet Neptune, Noah, and others, got to slip their penis into Ciara by offering her DRUGS. He wanted a girlfriend and future wife, she wanted to hook up with some dope. Their needs and wants were mismatched.



















 >>/156872/

that hologram shit is complicated and expensive.  Better / Easier idea is the Ai up and around Visually in VR, and VR in smart glasses of about 2030.

And, ive now played around w/ Ai companion bots, its pretty decent, w/ out doin a long review,  but memory / context window is lite.  And,  its not yet up to everyone wants one has a stand alone one just for them.








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