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3 kings edition

> Current and upcoming races
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06.07 - 13.07 Giro d'Italia Women 2.WWT
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06.07 Argenta Classic - Deurne 1.1 WE
09.07 - 13.07 Tour of Austria 2.1
16.07 - 20.07 Baloise Ladies Tour 2.1 WE
19.07 La Périgord Ladies 1.1 WE
20.07 La Picto - Charentaise 1.1 WE
21.07 Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre 1.1
25.07 Prueba Villafranca - Ordiziako Klasika 1.1
26.07 - 03.08 Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift 2.WWT
6.07 - 30.07 Ethias-Tour de Wallonie 2.Pro
27.07 Vuelta a Castilla y Leon 1.1
02.08 Donostia San Sebastian Klasikoa 1.UWT
04.08 - 10.08 Tour de Pologne 2.UWT
05.08 - 09.08 Vuelta a Burgos 2.Pro
06.08 - 08.08 Tour de l'Ain 2.1 M
06.08 - 10.08 Trans-Himalaya Cycling Race 2.1
06.08 - 17.08 Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta 2.1
07.08 - 10.08 Arctic Race of Norway 2.Pro
12.08 - 14.08 Tour de Pologne Women 2.1 WE
12.08 - 16.08 PostNord Tour of Denmark 2.Pro
14.08 - 17.08 Czech Tour 2.1
15.08 - 17.08 Tour de Romandie Féminin 2.WWT
15.08 Grote Prijs Yvonne Reynders 1.1 WE
15.08 Circuit Franco-Belge 1.Pro
17.08 La Polynormande 1.1
17.08 ADAC Cyclassics 1.UWT
19.08 - 22.08 Tour du Limousin-Périgord - Nouvelle Aquitaine 2.1
20.08 - 24.08 Lidl Deutschland Tour 2.Pro
20.08 - 24.08 Renewi Tour 2.UWT

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> Previous Thread:
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 >>/24244/
he held on in the Bologna stage on shorter climbs last year too and then got dropped on the Galibier two days later. Not too surprising he can't put a large enough gap on a ~2min climb


 >>/24239/
Very delusional. He would have to borrow Paduni's ebike to beat both Jonas and Pogi with 26+ seconds tomorrow. Even if they both had an offday there is also Jorgenson, Almeida and Remco close to him.




 >>/24255/
> last year
but this year joao has won three WT one-week's in a row and he's looked very strong in what should be his weakest terrain in this first week. This year is much different then last year in level for almeida




For ROGLIC it goes the same as 2024, lost time on the rampas, out of position in other stage, will have pretty good ITT, will climb with Remco (but Remco will climb badly) and then will come the inevitable DNF





 >>/24263/
That is very unfortunate given how good his Dauphine was
He should go and win 3 stages or something instead

As for ROGLIC, he never should have gone to Tour. With his Giro already depressing and the sickness afterwards, he should have gone to La Vuelta instead. But sponsors be sponsors. Bora will probably achieve absolutely NOTHING this Tour with Meeus on his way to DNS tomorrow.



 >>/24266/
> meeus finishing behind the grupetto
> van deviation already on a yellow
> van dijke hard crash today
bringing a full sprint train looking like a very bad option in hindsight. pithie completely fraudulent as well as expected





 >>/24270/
> Moscon and Pithie OUT
> Van Gils and Fisher-Black IN
> tell Roglic to sit in the back and be careful and ride for top 10
> tell the rest to race for stage wins
You can't put together a Bora team that can realistically contest with Visma and UAE for the overall win anyway.



 >>/24276/
charitable interpretation is that he peaked for the oceania calendar and will come back in the late season, less charitable is he's a farmer shitter. in theory he's the exact type of rouler/MM dom they desperately need in this current team. hard to suss out what his training schedule is meant to be but they haven't given him any leadership roles in the main part of the season





 >>/24275/
pithie is the real head-scrather for me, he's not good enough to compete for stage wins and if your going to have a pure classics domestique why not bring the more inform van gils or adria. moscon is good for positioning. vlasov should not be here with what his form is. 

this team screams a bunch of riders that were given guaranteed spots earlier in the season and then wasting all of their more flexible spots on a train for meeus after he performed well in the sprints.


 >>/24283/
I read that they actually expected a lot of pithie in these puncher stages
Honestly I don't think bora understands current cycling with guys like grug and pogi wanting to win everything, they think today could end up in a 40 man bunch sprint like G2 in RVV

 >>/24283/
I feel like it's a management/ training thing.
On paper you have some really great riders but when they are almost all shit you have to start looking for reasons with the way things are organised internally.

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 >>/24282/
You are probably right
All my boys are old, washed or both or suspended by WADA.
Your ROGLICs, your QUINTANAs, your SUPERMAN LOPEZs, your MOREIRAs, your SAINBAYARs
Ironically I stared to adopt Memco as my next boy because of his funny antics but after his Oumi cuckoldry it is really difficult
















> 66kg
< 75kg
> 58kg
> 62kg
> 64kg
> 63kg
> 61kg
> 69kg
man what kind of monstrous watts do you think grug puts out on these climbs







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 >>/24303/
the consolation is big onley released his powerfile. guy must weigh nothing if this is the watts he's doing to keep with this front group. 440/5 is meagre everything considered
https://www.strava.com/activities/15047110820/analysis

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Stage 5 OFFICIAL /bet/

> Evenepoel 1.16
> Vingegaard 10
> Pogacar 12
> Affini 29
> Aert 41
> Roglic 51
> Jorgensohn 51
> Vauquelin 101
> Foss 101
> Poel 126
> Almeida 151
> Plapp 151
> Campy 151
> Cattaneo 151







 >>/24315/
> Ralph/Rolf
> Enrico/Enrico
> Heinrich/Hendrik
> Pello/Paolo
> Gregor/Roger
> Shane/Sylwester
> Cesare/Christian
it is the rule of two at BORA. Aldag must be kept for balancing reasons for bossman Ralph.
















































 >>/24365/
> oh shit garcia pierna exists
> not enough danes in 2* better move up skjelly
> lets just go to pcs, sort by TT and pick those guys for 1*
another brilliant optakt axelgaard good job

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Another EXPLOSIVE day of GC action from the BIG QUATRE (Pogi, MVDP, Joao, and Remco) and time for another /WORLD TOUR WINE/ !!

We are spending the Grand Depart in the Hauts-de-France and remain in Champagne for /WTW/. Yesterday's wine was an exemplary example of one of the great Maisons of Champagne, but today we are on a different tack with "grower" Champagne. The vast majority of grapes in Champagne are grown by family farmers and then sold to the large Maisons (Moet et Chandon, Veuve Clicquot, Bollinger, Krug, etc) for vinification. In contrast, grower Champagnes are both grown and vinified by individual vignerons. These are often single vintage, sometimes even single vineyard. This is an expanding segment, but still makes up less than 5% of exported Champagne.

Jean Velut 'Premier Temps' Brut Champagne ($45)

The contrast between this and Krug couldn't be funnier. The label looks like it was printed at Kinkos. This is 100% Chardonnay, disgorged in 2024 after 3.5 years on the lees (in contrast, yesterday's Krug spent 7 years on the lees). Dosage is 7 g/l.

Free preview of extra wine nerd education (normally these notes require an OnlyBerts subscription): Champagne production is bizarrely complex. Initially, the grapes are vinified, blended, and then bottled. They are then kept nose down in the deep limestone cellars of Champagne, giving the bottles a bit of a turn every few days to the loosen the sediment and drive it slowly into the neck of the bottle underneath a metal cap. This process is called riddling. The sediment is essentially the yeast that has already done its job, turning sugar into alcohol and carbon dioxide (bubbles), and then dying. The dead yeast collects at the neck, forming a plug referred to as the 'lees'. Champagne requires at least 15 months of maturation in the cellar before release (most wines undergo far longer maturation), and this prolonged exposure to yeast brings the bready/brioche/pastry notes so beloved in Champagne. Then, the metal caps are released, the dead yeast plug fires out like a bullet from the pressure of the CO2, and a light hit of sugar is added to the bottle (dosage) before corking. The added sugar cuts the searing acidity of Champagne, and the amount of sugar added from the dosage is reflected in the category, from Brut nature (0 dosage, less than 3 g/L final sugar) all the way to Doux (>50 g/L final sugar). Brut is probably most common category and is less than 12 g/L of sugar.

Returning to this wine:

The nose is bready, more crusty baguette than brioche, followed by yellow apple and marzipan. This has an oxidative quality that I enjoy in many Champagnes -- it brings nuttiness and complexity to an otherwise very austere profile. The palate is zippy, with tongue-tingling acidity, bruised yellow apple, minimal citrus, and lingering almond finish.

This is really good stuff, moderate complexity. Not profound like the Krug, but finer than the Anima Mundi Cami dels Xops from Volta a Catalunya which was made with Methode Ancestrale (please refer to previous editions of /wtw/ for more information).



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 >>/24370/
With enough practice it's not that hard. You're always kind of smelling the same things over and over and you learn to differentiate between stuff. 

So for bready/yeasty flavors, is it sweet like pastry or brioche or more yeasted like baguette? For fruit, okay, we're getting apple but is green, yellow, or red? Is it underripe, ripe, or bruised (oxidative)? Almond/marzipan is a common flavor in oxidative wines, marzipan being a bit sweeter. 

Also, while a lot of people are wowed by shit like "smells like decaying violets, potting soil, sous bois, dead forest, decaying leaves" (see the insufferable tasting notes of D'Lynn Proctor on youtube), it's not very useful. I try to stick with three descriptors for nose and palate, and really trying to give an impression of "what does this wine actually feel like to smell and drink" because when I'm deciding years from now whether to buy another bottle, just rattling off typical scents is useless.




 >>/24369/
I had always thought of champagneand other sparkling wines as "boring" without any real flavor beyond the carbonation, so I appreciate these; also that's funny about vineyards mostly not making their own, interesting

currently sipping on a homebrew: a Brettanomyces-only ale that I bottled several months ago — unlike a mixed-fermentation beer where the Brett "funk" is very apparent, this is like a more complex wheat beer with lots of fruity pineapple and no discernible funk

 >>/24376/
Interesting, so the mixed fermentation is a mix of brewer's yeast and Brett to ferment?

Brett is a controversial feature in wine....you see it subtly in Bordeaux to great effect, occasionally in Beaujolais, and it runs rampant in the natural wine world where some people actively search for wines that taste like hors shit


 >>/24364/
I understand written Danish quite well and spoken as well in most situations, but it's easier for me than most Finns as I did my military training in Swedish. The basic vocabulary is very similar in danish but the spelling is often quite different. The Danes seem to understand my fennoswedish well enough but still switch to english when we talk. I will probably go watch a tour stage in the cycling cafe nearby one day, will be fun to interact with the local cycling fans. You see more ads for women's football than for the Tour here for some reason.



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Österreich-Rundfahrt starts today with very interesting parcour and some BIG names in it.
They are not riding the Hochtor passo after the tragic death of the great Andre DREGE last year which also neutralised the Kühtai stage. Kühtai is BACK on the menu twice and the final is from the hardest part 

Some BIG names also include

> STÜSSI (Vorarberg)
> ZOIDL (Hrinkow)
> AUGUST (Merda)
> LANGELLOTTI (Merda)
> MESSERSCHMIDT (Run&Race)
> KÄMNA (Lidl)
> DOUBLE (Jayco)
> BELOKI (EF)
> RYAN (EF)
> DEL TORO (UAE)
> GROSS SCHARTNER (UAE)
> JOHANSEN (UAE)

Famously missing is Adrien MAIRE of Tietema who is completely washed.
Czech galactic of ATT Investments are also bringing team full of sprinters for some reason.



 >>/24382/
UAE's team is so overkill lol.
Everyone will be dropped before Del Toro even attacks.
This really convinces me they want to go for 100 wins. Not winning every stage here will be a failure.











rai audio fucked.
so Austria is on youtube 
Deutsch:
https://www.youtube.com/live/m1Gc&#95;VDqKWw
Austrian-English:
https://www.youtube.com/live/hrZ86z7JsWQ









I was hit ontoday by a danish gay man. While my kid was sleeping I had the time to visit a local gym where I went to the sauna for a 40min heat session (got to keep those heat gain). This big burly man came there and immediately started chatting small talk. He was very interested in everything I said but when he realised I have a wife and kid the interest waned. He then left the sauna and a minute later started chatting with another guy in thr shower. When I left he was still there in the shower area. Very peculliar to be hit on in a public sauna, never had that happen in Finland.

> “In races that are soaking wet and freezing cold, I like to piss myself,” said Cavendish. “It warms me up for a split second. You get warm and you don’t have to fuss around.”
pig disgusting












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> But there are plenty of girls who are uncomfortable with that because they’re worried about what happens if it goes wrong, that they’re going to wet themselves, so some completely strip down.
























































 >>/24377/
> mixed fermentation
and usually Lactobaccilus and Pediococcus bacteria as well; I've also used my own sourdough starter to ferment beers before and they're really fantastic — I wasn't quite sure what to expect but it makes an incredible berliner weiße or flanders red-style

I love the Brett funk but yeah I knew it was typically a flaw in wines




















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Czech TV spent last tree minutes talking about how bad W*ut is, one minute of that they spent talking of how hideous his knee looks.
> Whenever he looks down while pedaling he sees his knee, that doesn't help mentally





















Pogi already sweaty af, this will be another disaster like the dauphine. Prepare for excessive drinking after a few kilometers. Today is our day, vingo bros.

> Rui Costa and Carlos Barredo got in a fight after the finish of stage 6 of the 2010 Tour de France. Barredo started the fight by hitting Costa with a wheel. After the incident, Barredo said the Portuguese rider punched him twice 20 kilometers before the finish. Both riders received a fine of 300 CHF 

> 300 CHF for a fistfight
my has the UCI gotten greedy these days


































 >>/24548/
I feel like affini has got to have the most amount of time spent in the hot seat this season because anytime I watch an ITT he's there, waiting for hours. Only fair that he wins one for once



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Czech tv commenting of aero position
> You have a guy who looks on the road, raises head only everu 15 seconds. Then you have a DS in the car like (czech) Rene Andrle who can't tell left from right, so no wonder they keep on chuting.



Is it me or does Remco have big problems with his position today? Looks like he's adjusting his saddle position every minute at least twice.





















































































































Brutal

Pogacar just got 5 seconds back in the last few km.
It's still a measured effort.

Cannot wait for his 1 hour 7W/kg effort in the mountains.




expected slightly more from my boy Almeida, but still not a bad day

5th of the GC guys and 4th of the guys that started late with supposedly worse wind






























Trine was right, the team doesn't help vingegaard enough.
Why wasn't affini hiding in the bushes to draft vingo instead of going for his own success

















> "I didn't think I would lose much time during the time trial. I felt good and also thought the numbers were good. Yes, it was windier than during the reconnaissance, but that's no excuse. The conditions were the same for everyone," Jorgenson told Eurosport.

> The American has no idea where the time loss came from. "I didn't change anything in my setup. It's been the same all year. Of course, I expected more from this time trial, but on the other hand, I really couldn't do more than this. We're going to analyze that now."

absolutely blown the fuck out by the competition
< we need to analyze this
bruh push more watts






 >>/24731/
besides having the most boring time one could come up, him having jappe will bite him in the ass sooner or later
also
> der mathieu poel van
made me chuckle kurwabert
















 >>/24749/
the company I built for 8 years is in the process of being acquired, but somehow there are still ways I get fucked over and over and I am not sure I care anymore. I could buy meself me own house for a family, but it all could end up in a huge nothingburger and I slave away for the next 40 years and live in a shitcage in a city











https://sporza.be/nl/2025/07/09/visma-lease-a-bike-zoekt-naar-antwoorden-na-dreun-voor-jonas-vingegaard-maar-onze-aanpak-verandert-niet&#126;1752064545361/?utm&#95;source=CopyToPasteboard&utm&#95;medium=social

Visma-Lease a Bike looks for answers after thumping for Jonas Vingegaard: “But our approach doesn't change”

If Jonas Vingegaard might have been labeled as the moral winner yesterday after his sterling performance in the explosive climbing, he was undoubtedly the loser of the day today.
No, I have no explanation for this," was the first reaction of Grischa Niermann, Head of Racing at Visma-Lease a Bike. "Before the time trial started, everything was good and there was no problem." "Whether he indicated anything? In a time trial he can't talk to us, so no. We did see how he was already behind at the first intermediate point and he kept losing time throughout the ride." "I haven't spoken to him now, but of course we had hoped for more. In terms of strategy, there was no problem."

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Stage 6 OFFICIAL /bet/

> Pogacar 3.5
> Poel 7
> Gregoire 13
> Vingegaard 19
> Aert 19
> Allah 21
> Healy 23
> Powless 26
> Schmid 26
> Onley 34
> Voklen 34
> Nys 34
> Jorgenson 41
> Baudin 41
> Evenepoel 51
> Hirschi 51
> Berckmoes 51
> Champoussin 51
> Lawrance 51
> Eetvelt 67
> Aranburu 67
> Simmons 67
...
> Roglic 151



 >>/24764/
> Aert 19
I'm aware that bookies have to account for the amount of retards that still believe in 2out. but it still annoys me that he's that high in the list despite being totally washed.





even axelgaard calls today a "katastrofe" for jonas
> but now looks even more black to the Danes who dream of another Tour victory.












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