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 >>/300/
I'd rather make a new one. Who's up for some Ayygyptian linguistics/history?

t. Proto Indo-European poster from 8chan /his/
 >>/305/
Prob mid to late 2015, Jimfuckery and Hotdud getting cucked has made it permanent. Anyway, I will organize materials/notes before I start as I've only recently begun to go in depth on the history/language. Prepare to get your historical shit fucked.
Alright /his/kos, let's fucking go. \Arguably the start of Egyptian civilization begins with the Naqada culture(s), (roughly 4000 - 3000 BC). The first phase of the Naqada culture was the Amratian culture. Archeologically the Amratians produced black-topped ware which were made by past cultures as well as white-cross line ware. During this time trade between Upper and Lower Egypt, a central dichotomy in Egyptian history/culture, occurred. There's also evidence the Amratians imported copper either from Nubia or Sinai. This is also the period where mud brick buildings occur but only in small numbers (increased urbanization?). The next phase in the Naqada saga is the Gerzean culture. This is when the building blocks for Dynastic Egypt were laid. Being a continuation of the Amratians, The Gerzeans formed in the Delta and pushed south but failing to overcome the Amratians in Nubia. Breaking away from the black topped ware and white lined pottery, the Gerzeans started to pain their pottery dark red with pictures of animals, people and ships. During this time geographically Egypt declined in rainfall but farming increased so much that the majority of food produced was from the land. Hunting was not gone but was probably confined to the upper class, much like in medieval Europe and Asia (Middle East). With a surplus of food, Egyptians increasingly adopted a sedentary existence and cities grew as large as 5000 (that's a lot!). Much like how mud brick building started in with the Amratians, the Gerzeans one upped them and started mass producing as reeds were the standard pre-Gerzean. Technology also progressed with much more use of copper. Being so similar to contemporary Mesopotamia, Egypt received considerable Mesopotamian influence at this time including cylinder seals, ceremonial "pear-shaped" maces and architecture. The primary route of Mesopotamian trade was Byblos on account of many Byblian artifacts found in Egypt. Cedar also was imported from Lebanon (maybe another Mesopotamian influence?). The last phase of the Naqada is the Protodynastic period. This is when the most unique aspects of Ancient Egypt spring up (hieroglyphics, serekhs, irrigation, royal cemeteries and also the aridification of the Sahara. Musical instruments like the double reed and lyres are also first introduced and also the world's oldest board game, Senet. Another milestone is Narmer (Manly Catfish) and his unification of Upper and Lower Egypt (although this is debatable, Narmer being identified with many rulers.

Now onto the linguistics. The oldest stage of the Egyptian language is Archaic Egyptian which can only be have spoken/written from the earliest records down to 2600 BC in which it becomes Old Egyptian. The reconstructed phonology of Archaic Egyptian is very much like the Semitic languages which it is distantly related. You have all the "gutturals" ħ, χ, ʁ, ʕ(which strangely came from [d]) but you also got palatal consonants like c, ɟ and ç.
If anyone wants me to go into detail on a specific topic just ask me. I'll take a break and post in bursts shortly :^). Also Manly Catfish reminds me of River Monster, wonder if there's a connection kek
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 >>/307/
> NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NARMER!

What's your take on that particular shitstorm: do you think he was personally responsible for the unification, or that he inherited it somewhere along the line?

Pic totally unrelated, I assure you.
 >>/311/
Well his identity is very suspect and also I don't subscribe to the Great Men theory. Also it looks like the seeds for the unification of the Two Lands were already ripe around and before our Manly Catfish is supposed to have lived. 

I will continue posting tomorrow, I'll also backtrack a lot (there's a lot of shit I missed like the precursors to the Naqada culture).
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 >>/312/
Go at your own pace, son - it's good to see /his/ getting any activity again, let alone someone who's willing to expound on things in a lot of detail.
Alright I'm back Medjay, sorry for the long wait. I'll try to continue where we left off; basic linguistic description of Ancient Egyptian. Now that we have the funky consonants we can also see other similarities to the Semitic languages such as tri-consonantal roots and verb-subject-object grammar. Also on the topic of consonants, they are mainly reconstructed from foreign sources (mostly Northwest Semitic and Akkadian). Like Semitic Egyptian had a pretty limited vowel inventory, Early Egyptian vowels being just i i: a a: u u:. The vowels obviously changed in time, going through a shift almost identical to the Canaanite Vowel Shift. Another thing I haven't mentioned yet is Hieroglyphics (and of course the cursive derivatives). Hieroglyphics reportedly occurred during the Gerzean culture on their pottery. Proto-hieroglyphs are dated to the late Naqada culture. The first artifact with an full sentence is from a seal expression of Seth-Peribsen, an early pharaoh during the Second Dynasty (2890 - 2686 BC.
 >>/315/
> The first artifact with an full sentence is from a seal expression of Seth-Peribsen

Was his rule a particularly productive time, culturally speaking, then?
 >>/316/
Well Peribsen ruled during the Second Dynasty which is a generally obscure period of Egyptian history but by analyzing the archeological record it was an important period of institutional and economic development. I'll post more soon.
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 >>/317/
Not directly related to your current line of thought, but you're the only Egyptopolis expert posting at the moment: what do you reckon of Tut's recently revealed Moon Dagger? This part is in radioactive spoilers to keep /x/fags from shitting up the place.
 >>/319/
> https://archive.is/pWj9W

> very little iron smelting going on during Tut's reign
> gets buried with sweet ceremonial dagger
> turns out it's from SPAAAAACE

I was more after your thoughts on what region it might have come from, if not Egypt itself, than the extraterrestrial angle. But, y'know - space, man.
I kind of want to know where to find those dismembered mexican pics because that is like what the fuck they had them in little piles on a peice of paper what are those from?
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 >>/321/
> what region
> underground

You're just a cheeky beggar, you.

 >>/322/
> reading comprehension

It came from space - that's not up for debate. The question is, did the Egyptians fashion it themselves, or was it, as implied by the little iron smelting happening within Egyptopolis, a gift from a neighboring kingdom?
OP here, I apologize for disappearing, I was a bit busy. To tell you the truth I don't really know that much about Egyptian chronology and was pretty much free balling it. I have collected some books on the subject so I might come back when I have time or the urge.
Kek be praised, he's a big guy and he's growing stronger every day. Trump 2016.
 >>/307/
> ʕ(which strangely came from [d])
Reminds me of T-glottalization in English, but with voiced stop instead – and interestingly, the /ʕ/ of Arabic can be analysed as a pharyngealised glottal stop instead, and in Hebrew the cognate sound is just a glottal stop.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-glottalization
 >>/320/
Meteoric iron was widely used by early peoples as high prestige metal. North American Indians, who generally didn't smelt iron, used a lot of meteoric iron too.
Doods, i totally got a historically bad virus in my computer.  What would Tamerlane do?

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