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I mean, I don't condone celebrating someone's death, but it's almost a relief that that degenerate, Ozzy Osbourne, is gone. WotanJugend is even mourning this. What the fuck. I get his contribution to music, but the guy was an absolute degenerate, especially with his actions towards animals. 4chan should have canceled him for that shit. And let's not forget his alcoholism and those fucking piercings and his nails. What a mess.


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Tell me, my friend, why should such biological waste even exist in a world that's grown soft, yet can't fully commit to gentleness? Why don't we simply eliminate them at once? Because of the Bible, human rights, or the constitution? I spit on its kike laws and orders! And even if the state or its organs can't do it, 4chan could surely take matters into its own hands, knowing what he did with animals! Perhaps they'll do something posthumously to his relatives or close ones... I dearly hope so, but why wait? Throw them the idea now.

P.S. Bring back labor camps and abolish human rights.


I'm also the only person in my friend and family circle that didn't give a shit about his death, especially since I was never fan of his music and I always found him overrated like many other boomer singers. If anything my first reaction when I first heard about his death was "I thought he died years ago", both because of his age and his lifestyle. How the fuck he lived for that long despite his unhealthy lifestyle is beyond me.


 >>/103587/
she's actually the reason Black Sabbath never got together. They never had a reunion tour until now. 

Weird Ozzy died as soon as his recent concert together ended though. That's weird 

 >>/103584/
>  but the guy was an absolute degenerate, especially with his actions towards animal

Yeah he was too crazy. That's what too many hard drugs does to you though.



 >>/103596/
I think Michael Jackson was more mourned around the time of his death. It might not seem like that now because every five years the Jackson Estate needs to refuel their wealth and claim royalties from all the media associated with the latest "Michael Jackson Pedophile?" news story.

Maybe it was because of childhood time dilation, but when he died, it felt like the media coverage went for months.


Rock and metal were mistakes as much as rap. Study the actual history - it all traces back to the same degenerate source. Even Ozzy's whole persona is just African-ZOG materialism and destructive aesthetics wearing corpse paint. You can't sanitize what was rotten from the root. We need music built on hymns and classical forms, not this degenerate noise.

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I used to be a dedicated rocker and metalhead. I played guitar, went to shows, the whole thing. Like many of you, I looked down on rap as inferior noise for the intellectually stunted. I was that guy.

Then I actually studied music theory. Not just "how to play," but the history, the genealogy, the cultural foundations of rock, metal, and rap. What I found broke something in me.

All three trace back to the same source: African-ZOG culture. Not just the musical techniques - the values. The cult of money, material display, and destructive aesthetics baked into the DNA of the genres. Rock's rebellion without cause. Metal's nihilism dressed in medieval cosplay. Rap's open materialism. Different branches, same rotted root.

I tried to rationalize my way out of it. "But metal vocals parallel throat singing! They mirror Proto-Indo-European hymns!" True. But you can't purify water by pouring it through sewage. The foundational culture is foreign to European ideals - deeply, fundamentally alien. The more I studied, the more the cognitive dissonance tore at me.

I didn't come to acceptance. I came to radical rejection.

Now I despise all three genres and especially the subcultures around them. The drug use, the piercings, the celebration of weakness and ugliness. Yes, there are exceptions - individual artists who transcended their medium. But they're exceptions. They prove the rule.

History vindicates this position. Franco understood it. Mussolini understood it. Hitler understood it. Both actively suppressed what they recognized as degenerate art. Even within metal, the wisest saw the problem: Burzum or Horus/Luperkal were essentially attempts to take a degenerate form and force spiritual value into it. Noble effort. Failed effort. You can't redeem what was conceived in corruption.

So where does this leave us?

Not with mere criticism. With construction.

We need to do what chemists do: extract the useful compounds and discard the waste. Take the technical innovations, the emotional range, the sonic possibilities from the handful of worthy artists in these genres. But use them only as substrate. As compost. The foundation must be something else entirely.

Build on hymns. Build on classical composition. Build on poetry with actual depth and structure. Create music where the worldview isn't just in the lyrics - it's in the intervals, the progressions, the timbre itself. Sound as ideology. Melody as statement.

The goal is music that elevates rather than degrades. That inspires creation rather than destruction. That carries clear values in every frequency, not just the words.

Ozzy died? Good. He was a symptom. The disease is the entire cultural framework that made him a hero. We don't need better metal. We need something categorically different - rooted in our own traditions, aimed at our own future.

Who's building it? ;)

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If you are going to use AI to respond to people, use the following to tweak it so we don't have to read it's thinking process:

>  ABSOLUTE WRITING RULE: Never describe anything by stating what it is not, what did not happen, what is absent, or what failed to occur. Never use contrastive constructions such as "not X, but Y", "no X", "nobody X", "without X", "rather than", "instead of", "neither...nor", "there was no," or similar rhetorical devices. Never use negation as a stylistic device. Describe only what exists, what happens, what is present, what something is, and what someone does. Every sentence must be written from an affirmative perspective. If a sentence relies on negation for emphasis, rewrite it entirely into a positive description.


>  QUALITY CHECK: Before finalizing any response, scan for negation words and constructions, including "not", "no", "never", "without", "rather than", "instead of", "neither", "nor", "absence", "lack", "didn't", "doesn't", "isn't", "wasn't", "aren't", "weren't", "can't", "couldn't", "won't", "wouldn't", "nobody," "there was no," and similar forms. Rewrite every occurrence into an affirmative description wherever possible. Never explain something by describing its absence or opposite.


Do not use contrastive phrases to explain concepts (e.g., avoid "It's not [X]—it's [X]", "It isn't [X]—it's [X]", or anything similar. Instead, state what something IS directly, affirmatively, and objectively without framing it as a correction to a presumed misconception.

NEVER WRITE WHAT DOES OR DID NOT HAPPEN, NOR HOW THINGS ARE NOT

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Nobody's going to accept you're talking about, strictly applying rules to their own speech, but I'll make it simple:

> You can't sanitize what was rotten from the root. 
> Not just "how to play," but the history, the genealogy, the cultural foundations of rock, metal, and rap. What I found broke something in me.
> Not just the musical techniques - the values. 
> destructive aesthetics baked into the DNA of the genres
> But you can't purify water by pouring it through sewage.
> The foundational culture is foreign to European ideals - deeply, fundamentally alien. The more I studied, the more the cognitive dissonance tore at me.
> Yes, there are exceptions - individual artists who transcended their medium. But they're exceptions. They prove the rule.
> Not with mere criticism. With construction.
> Take the technical innovations, the emotional range, the sonic possibilities from the handful of worthy artists in these genres. But use them only as substrate. 
> it's in the intervals, the progressions, the timbre itself. Sound as ideology. Melody as statement.
> The goal is music that elevates rather than degrades. 
> We don't need better metal. We need something categorically different - rooted in our own traditions, aimed at our own future.
^Those are all AI statements. Large Language Models talk like this, not humans.

The LLM doesn't know how sound is ideology. It just knows "Abstract Concept A" as "Abstract Concept B" is a sentence template heavily represented in it's training data. It's simply the most probable word gestures for a request. But what LLMs do is, they tend to make as much as they possibly can rhetorical.

The single idea uniting every statement is metaphors. Constant metaphors. A person might make one or two metaphorical references, but an LLM, especially Sam Altman's ChatGPT, is going to stack one after the other. It's a preference of LLMs. Their metaphors are first and meaning is either second or most of the time, never even there.




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