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Setting up this thread just in case someone mentions us or someone stumbles here via googling. 

> what happened to 4chan? 

It was attacked, ostensibly by the imageboard soyjak.party, otherwise know as the sharty. A board that was born out of /qa/ (the hacker could've just used the site as a dumping ground/cover to receive any flak though). The attack looks pretty extensive, with mods and janitor emails,the secret janitor board and the entire site source code being leaked. 

> what is this place?

Endchan's resident pony community. We are a small board with own culture of sorts and way of things. If you are coming from /mlp/, we might be too sincere, heterodox, and  occasionally bloggpostery for your liking. Though if you decide to stick around, read: >>/5559/ 

> is this a continuation of 8chan's /pone/?

No, but we are blood relatives and do have some contentions to them. Not quite brothers, more like cousins. 

> Is there anything else?

Dolores is best bridge. 

The most active bunker seems to be /nhnb/ (https://nhnb.org/fim/) Though I will point out to any 8chan/pone stragglers, that 8kun/pone/ (8kun.top/pone/) is still being guarded by an active board owner in the event y'all decide to return for a /pone/ revival attempt.



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 >>/12051/
I've heard supposedly this is fake. The most official message we've gotten is from twitter (or in this case, nitter, which sometimes still works for those of us who don't have twitter accounts). 

> reorganize /go/ or /culture/ in response as history would be made right here.
/culture/ was never organized, lol, but for /go/, yeah, it would make since go ahead and make the new general. Though archivist has been gone since our spam flood and I am only passively monitoring things so it wouldn't be a happenin' command center I wouldn't mind  trying to have some place that is dispassionately trying to analyze and archive this event considering all it is right now is a fight between /nhnb/ and /mlpol/ both hating on each other and laughing at 4chan's demise.

 >>/12054/
>  it would make since go ahead and make the new general. 
*to go ahead and make the new general. I had a plan to post some stuff with it. If anons wanted to discuss this in depth here would be fine for now.

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Slowly working on a post that gives a general update on the status of things. I am not tracking this obsessively but figured I'd go ahead and make a cultural snapshot and write some words on where things stand. In the meantime, pic related on hacker's own explication and clarifications of misconceptions that I have seen posted elsewhere.


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What sort of cultural analysis and accounting of history should be done at this time? I think it is a real question as a lot of things are in flux and there and narratives are still being formed. I don't have the time to obsessively dive into things and digest and pick apart everything being said and passed around but I might make some attempt at having a proper unbiased (less biased?) account of this chaotic time. 

It seems to be mainly a fight between NBNH and /mlpol/, the ideology of mare first and fim first purity versus /mlpol/'s do anything you want (mostly) laissez-faire. I have heard conflicting reports on the estimated time to 4chan's return and now I am seeing 2 to 4 weeks. 

Funniest thing, I have seen every bunker and small board mentioned, except here, EVEN the 8chan.moe/pone, our partial bunker. LOL. Not 100% a bad thing as I suspect if we had been considered for a bunker they're would've been tensions with the way of things here or some idealistic idiotic takeover attempt like what happened with 8kun/pone and us over at 8chan.moe/pone/. With that being said, I am not hostile to some newfags joining in though.

Greetings, /endpone/. Comfy threads you have here. Working on a summary paste, if you have any suggestions or corrections, do advise.
https://ponepaste.org/10897
 >>/12061/
I'd say the divide is a bit more specific than just "FiM vs free discussion." If you look at your pics 2 and 4, you'll see /opg/ and "the tripfag thread" (OPT/CPCG) being mentioned. As such, I think there's another question at play:
> Should general community banter be held off-board or in a dedicated thread?
NHNB leans more towards "off-board", whereas /mlpol/ sees a dedicated-thread approach. The main reason, I'd say, why /opg/ got the greenlight on NHNB is because they managed to convince the staff that "actually, we're just posting pony, the social aspect of the game is very minimal".
You can especially see this in effect on Desuarchive, where the CPCG thread-goers can't stop ranting about "rewatchtrannies" and how they're "ruining the board".
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42141826


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 >>/12065/
Oh, lol, now we are on somebody's radar. Howdy summeryanon. 
https://ponepaste.org/10897
> Endchan's /pone/ (/endpone/) - Seems to be at least partially related to MLPA. Relatively active (when compared to the 8chan pony boards). Endchan also has the fairly dead /mlp/.
Oh, yeah, I always forget about the links above that relate to MLPA. Whomever founded this place probably was connected to them at some point though I am not sure we'd count now. I have always meant to update that as that was before our "modern" culture (New Years 2018 when three anons bumped into each other and decided, hey, let's keep posting and see what happens). Activity wise, we are all over the place. Some weeks we have had a well over one hundred posts and some months we have had less then ten. Culturally were an amalgamation of stragglers that found our way here and our moderation is more based around maintaining the vibe that emerged. More restrictive in some ways (squeamish on some fetishes, against certain types of shitposting and bait) less in others (anthro, eqg, are not banned even if we most often post regular pony, random experimentation is encouraged). We also still might count as a bloggpostry circlejerk and certainly can be friendly with each other but more on topic. Tone can be drastically different from thread to thread I will note, and some threads might have an anon or two that just sometimes check in there and not the rest of the board.

> Endchan also has the fairly dead /mlp/.
Colony of ours. I just use it sometimes to mess with CSS mainly with sometimes a faint idea of using it for a more static information repository or something. Most post not from any of our anons though as I only took it over... 4 years ago (?).

> 8chan(moe)'s /mlp/: It is no /pone/. There's a zoophilia thread (two, in fact) with actual (IRL) horse porn, and practically nothing of note besides that. 
Not worth adding to the bunker paste but a bit of history I will tell. I am surprised they are still alive. IIRC they descend from a small group of anons who tried to reoccupy 8kun's /pone/, but had some very particular ideas of moderation, like hating spoilers for NSFW and wanted to wipe 8kun/pone clean and start over and made both major issues. The BO of 8kun's/pone/, a old native of the board,  (whom is also frequent poster here)felt it would be wrong to let some random anons reshape the board who had no connection to 8kun's previous board culture and inhabitants so drastically. I mainly got involved when it spilled over into 8chan.moe/pone/'s (the semiofficial bunker for /endpone/). 

I can't think of any more active boards. 9chan is kill, iro I think is kill and... yeah, poni.fun has been gone for years as chan at this point. 

> Should general community banter be held off-board or in a dedicated thread?
I agree with this framing. Personally think both might lean too far but /nbnh/ rules shoot them in the hoof more most of the time. 

> https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42141826
Yeah, been mildly monitoring this thread as well myself. 


 >>/12066/
The situation is very tense isn't it? It feels like some others might be emboldened to go after stuff in the chaos of 4chan being hacked.

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 >>/12061/
> I have seen every bunker and small board mentioned except here.
Hello. I have finally got around to the end, but how many of /mlp/ made it here?

An update for these caps.
> nhnb is deadset locked in a purity spiral, and have been banning for wrongthink while openly promoting attacking anyone who doesn't have a hivemind mentality
> Posts can get deleted and these are not counted in the archives which are 
> The posting is a pain with bypasses and capcha problems that can't get removed or they get cp
That's a number of redflags.

> mlpol is getting taken advantage of the low moderation with /trash/ tier trolling demoralization posts
This is going to be shortlived, the outcry against porndumps have caused the admins to state they're going to have board specific rules that will keep things under control. They haven't decided on which rules yet but it's not going to be red across the board.

> Moe has zoofags digging in
> Moe is under strain from outside force shilling
With jannies that were already pro-zoo it's kinda expected that they want to be among their own, but it's offputting for a lot of people just who wanna poniponi. 
The performance is all over the map, but this isn't anything moe/mlp/ can do something about.

QoL updates:
> /mlpol/ now made a thread watcher, first draft.
> nhnbs thread watcher breaks often, but updated their replies to be better
> moe's threadwatcher is half broken, they're working on better antispam stuff like proof-of-work capcha atm

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 >>/12076/
> Hello. I have finally got around to the end, but how many of /mlp/ made it here?
Outside of a known lurker and sometime poster, you might be the only one right now, lol. I didn't except a lot but my surprise was that we hadn't been mentioned on any of the threads that I saw considering I had seen us mentioned before on /mlp/ and elsewhere in times past.  Still, thanks for the updates on things. 

> The posting is a pain with bypasses and capcha problems that can't get removed or they get cp
I know several places that have that problem. Sometimes bots or bad actors settle on places for whatever reason and I am not sure how much I can fault them. I'll admit, the endchan as a whole would've counted under a red flag when we had a literal shitposter spamming the heck out of this place a few months back and they were trying every CAPCHA under the sun along with freezing the site for days on end.

> nhnb is deadset locked in a purity spiral, and have been banning for wrongthink while openly promoting attacking anyone who doesn't have a hivemind mentality
I am not sure I find the idea of a pure FiM imageboard bad, but I think the way they go about it causes them to shot themselves in the foot from what I've seen.

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 >>/12077/
This site is very different than I last browsed it, feels quite strange from the other splinters.
What is magrathea? Cp being wielded as a weapon has never changed, some of the other splinters are fairing worse off but glad things are calm for you for now. Last I checked moe is getting the vast majority of it. 

I'm not opposed to the idea of a g4 imageboard, or a FIM board in good faith, but nhnb has some sickening  hypocrisy
> Alleged /mlp/ bunker: Users calls for /mlp/ content to be banned further

> Allows non FiM fan races and ponified OC: This one is normal at least, but not true to the name.

> Deletes discussion about other sites at random, allows it at random

> FiM only board: Allows irl horse, from /an/

> Bans zoo: Allows realistic jap manga horse porn

> Bans deviations from strict show accurate dragons: Allows crotchboobs that FiM ponies never had.

> Bans diapers: Allows striped, foalcon, futa, ...

> Removes bumps: Won't remove shitflinging if its directed against pre-approved list of strawmen

> Bans G5: Allows G6leaks which has G5 characters in it.

> Sunset shimmer pony banned (appeared in an episode): Sirens allowed (appeared in an episode)

> Allows Filly Funtasia which is uglier than 3d G5 and not even mlp nor connected to FiM.

> TFH is offtopic: gmod is ontopic

> Bans humanized: Allows G1 humans

> Bans PonyLife: Allows Tamers


Quite honestly the entire thing is really just emotionally unstable powertripping fat fags personal opinions wielded around with a holier than tho attitude and the users feed into it, which makes for the worst kinds of board owners like when Mark ran /v/ as a tendo echo chamber.

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 >>/12078/ 
> This site is very different than I last browsed it, feels quite strange from the other splinters.

/endpone/ is very strange. I am a lurker and sometimes poster. Despite the low post count it has been active for years and has its own vibes, memes, and culture. It usually has very slow discussions that unfold across months or even years with random mega-projects and OC that sometimes cause the place to explode in activity for a little while. The system of anonymity is in-between Ponychan constant namefaggiing and avatarfagging and /mlp/'s ideal: if you become a regular poster here, you'll probably get a nickname that will stay with you regardless of thread because the anons will learn your writing style. The place is iffy on some fetishes but I am not sure it is to the arbitrary degree that you describe /nhnb/. Not sure if it makes sense for a home but it might make sense to track if their archiving operations get back online or use it for random experimentation that you wouldn't feel comfortable doing on other bunkers because these anons usually are nicer to strange ideas and creative projects. 

> What is magrathea?

It is the new imageboard software that is slowly being written to replace lynxchan. It kind of sucks unless you're on mobile. 


> Bans zoo: Allows realistic jap manga horse porn 

This one I can see from the standpoint that one is merely questionable sexual fantasy while the other is highly immoral and questionable legally. 

> Bans PonyLife: Allows Tamers 

> Bans G5: Allows G6leaks which has G5 characters in it.

> Allows non FiM fan races and ponified OC: This one is normal at least, but not true to the name. 

I did not know that. Very retarded.

 >>/12067/
Would it make sense to note the 8kun/pone or /flutter/ connections? I know /endpone/ is more of a bastard cousin to them but that  is still family and still carrying the torch a little even if it isn't a continuation. 

 >>/12061/
I might help with /go/ and/or /culture/'s attempts to make a proper accounting of what happened depending on schedule. I think having multiple independent accounts is good. 

 >>/12065/ 
> Should general community banter be held off-board or in a dedicated thread?

I think the culture clash is more complicated then that. A lot of anons have varying arbitrary definitions of board purity that boil down to:
> What I like is board culture.

> What I hate is the thing ruining the board. 

/nhnb/ is leaning into that arbitrariness more than /mlpol/ but I know /mlpol/ still carries that same risk when they see something that goes against their political leanings. To be fair, this always was an element of chan culture but it seems like faction fighting and gatekeeping just keeps getting worse and more retarded. I've seen some anons even shit on 8kun/8chan's old /pone/ board because they had one anthro containment thread. As if that defines our history and who we were.

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 >>/12078/
> This site is very different than I last browsed it, feels quite strange from the other splinters. 
Have you ever been to /endpone/ before? If you have years ago I'd say we've certainly gotten more organized if you haven't been here in several years.  

> Last I checked moe is getting the vast majority of it. 
I've heard that they have someone who is their specific enemy that comes out of the woodwork ever so often but know no details. Of course right now any bad actor might be doing things just to take advantage of the chaos. 

> but nhnb has some sickening hypocrisy 
I've never been able to fully get over their banning of ponified Sunset Shimmer myself but some of that sounds way more ridiculous.

 >>/12078/
 >>/12079/
Funny, 
> I am a lurker and sometimes poster.
 >>/12077/
> Outside of a known lurker and sometime poster
Now, I actually was referring to a different anon who checks in on the old /go/ thread sometimes but yeah, I know you and you fit that description. Except for the fact that you post often enough I count as a regular.

 >>/12079/
This is a pretty good description of us. 


> The place is iffy on some fetishes but I am not sure it is to the arbitrary degree that you describe /nhnb/.
Maybe depending on your definition of arbitrary. As I have previously stated, the moderation style here is more based around maintaining the order that emerged over strict gatekeeping based on interest. For example if we had 10 fetish threads try to set up shop here after being banned from other boards and nothing else that would destroy our board culture and I would have to act against it but NSFW generals themselves aren't banned. Of the anons here, I know some fetishes are distrusted by some here and I have stressed in the past I wouldn't let the place be overrun with diaper,foalcon or whatever but I haven't strictly banned anything outside of obvious illegal stuff (perhaps I should add a note in our rules that IRL zoophila is banned). 

 >>/12080/
> Would it make sense to note the 8kun/pone or /flutter/ connections? I know /endpone/ is more of a bastard cousin to them but that is still family and still carrying the torch a little even if it isn't a continuation. 
Not sure if the connection is close enough to justify it.  8kun/pone/ and /flutter/, though I do consider them family and try to be kind and helpful to any stragglers from there when they make themselves known from time to time. Maybe something like "bastard relative of 8kun/pone/, /flutter/ and other stragglers, heterodox culture." IDK. Ultimately that paste needs to serve as a guide for various stray anons and I am not sure if it makes sense to note it in whatever blurb that is written. Though in the case of 8kun/pone it might be good in helping out their diaspora. I can note that 8kun/pone ain't out of the running yet.  

 >>/12080/
> I might help with /go/ and/or /culture/'s attempts to make a proper accounting of what happened depending on schedule. I think having multiple independent accounts is good. 
The more the merrier. The baseline plan would be to have some sort of snapshot of how things are right now that would be somewhat unbiased and noting different trends and ramifications. My own schedule is chaotic and it'll probably be just a few posts at most with some speculation if I get to it. Keep an eye on: >>/10356/ for now.

 >>/12079/
So what kind of megaprojects have endchanponeh done? I'm only familiar with 4chan /mlp/packs and the like, nhnb's projects barely made a dent with just a few people. And then there's mlpol's big flagfagging when it was made though I don't think they have megaprojects right now.

If there's any art/writefags here then you could join the /mlp/ refugee project. And just make content about the hacks/bunkers with general losing a home and finding shelter vibe.

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 >>/12089/
I think anon was referring to the long term threads that sometimes dominate here which often have a lot of effort put into it. Especially /go/ but sometimes sporadic other things like special events relating to /night/, rewatch thread and what not. So, it doesn't count as megaproject in that definition. 

> art/writefags
artfags, barely one that sort accounts, writefags, a handful in our history but activity is sporadic. I might check it out myself and if I feel inspired I'll contribute.

Hello once more, /endpone/. Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/10897
I'll copypaste from the paste itself:
> removed 8chan /mlp/ duplicate, merged the notes in the beginning, updated threads, added redchan to list of others, updated the 4channening link for NHNB. 4chan became liv once more.
 >>/12080/
After some thought, I'd think of it this way:
> NHNB starts out as simply a FiM-centric website, opposing anthro/no-hooves/EQG
> There are various other communities (such as parts of certain Cytube channels) who share FiM-centric views
> As such, the early adopters of NHNB are from said communities
> The culture of these communities seeps into NHNB
> Suddenly, it's less FiM-centric and more "okay, what do these off-board communities deem as valid?"
> Because the communities themselves haven't gone anywhere, NHNB opposes having general community banter on-board
> /mlpol/ was born from having the freedom to discuss and post anything, from ponies to politics, and seeing how amazing that is
> The freedom to discuss and post gets further cemented by events like Marenheit
> The freedom to discuss and post gets taken to its limits, as even a tripfagging blogposting general that barely relates to anything counts as "discussion and posting"
> The political leanings thing is just from the culture of /pol/
 >>/12078/
> Bans zoo
That's more of a legal thing kek
> Allows striped
According to staff, it is "borderline" https://nhnb.org/qa/res/752.html#q757
> Removes bumps
If you mean deleting posts that just say "bump", you can find that on 4chan's /mlp/ as well. If you mean bumplocking, I've only seen 4channing threads do so.
> Bans deviations from strict show accurate dragons: Allows crotchboobs that FiM ponies never had.
I feel this rule is more so to avoid furfaggotry disguised as "we're just posting diamond dogs/dragons!" I suspect the same applies to the "extreme fetishes" rule.
> TFH is offtopic
TFH is "not banned" (https://nhnb.org/qa/res/361.html)
> Allows Tamers
Reading into it, it seems Tamers is being interpreted by the rules as just being a pony artist: if he just draws G4 pony, let it be. If he draws Sunny Starscout or (literal) shit, I assume the staff would remove it.
> G6leaks
Haven't even seen such a thread lel.

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 >>/12093/
> 4chan is live
Well, we shall see what happens now. Thanks for stopping by, Summaryanon! 

> https://ponepaste.org/10897
> Redchan.net's /mlp/: Don't ask, for I know not myself. Just found it mentioned in a post on NHNB. 
If I recall, some anon on /nhnb/ was worried of it being a honeypot/data mining operation but I don't know of any evidence for that. 

> Suddenly, it's less FiM-centric and more "okay, what do these off-board communities deem as valid?"
Culture clash of sorts with different rules. In fairness to them, I suppose it is no more different than /endpone/ or anywhere else 
having some things it is iffy on while being in others more lenient. I think the bigger point of contention was its marketing/perception as THE bunker as opposed to a bunker. 

> The freedom to discuss and post gets taken to its limits, as even a tripfagging blogposting general that barely relates to anything counts as "discussion and posting"
If that is Smokey's group. I've know of people in lose orbit of there and talked to a couple before. I don't know the dynamics of the /trash/community very well personally though because I can't stomach /trash/. I do respect holding out for so long and could see hosting a group like that on the basis of age and historical status in spreading pony that they played so long as they didn't cause drama elsewhere on the site.

 >>/12096/
A bit of context on that last thing: /poner/ has the "official pony thread", which comprises not only the remnants of the /trash/ group, but also of the /mlp/ Classic /Pony -Community- General. I was more-so meaning to refer to the later than the former.

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 >>/12043/
Though almost certainly anyone browsing this probably already knows, I will formally note that:
4chan is back online

Now, will it stay up? The risk still exists it might be brought down  especially if the suspicion of their being an inside job are proven true. I think there needs to be a discussion among the community among over off site organization. Albeit I know such a thing is impeded by moderation there. A lot of anons seem traumatized by slower boards, different cultures and the lack of continuity from this event. I will still keep this thread pinned for awhile just in case something happens in the near term. 

I will try to keep an eye on the alts as well. I imagine there will still be a increase in posting but will probably not be at the levels we have seen. 


 >>/12097/
> which comprises not only the remnants of the /trash/ group, but also of the /mlp/ Classic /Pony -Community- General. I was more-so meaning to refer to the later than the former.
My position is still probably the same, but noted. 

 >>/12096/
I guess I accidentally posted this picture twice.

 >>/12097/
A kinder gentler spot of /mlp/ could be a good idea in theory but I could see that totally derailing into lolcow central if they weren't careful. No, I am not even talking about the tripfag trying to set it up there, he might be strange but he doesn't count as the cringe retardation that could manifest. Misfits among misfits. Who are worse than the average misfits of /mlp/. As a opposed to a place for the more timid and lonely to find a bit of community. 

 >>/12098/
There needs to be a drop in replacement for /mlp/ as it is.Or ponybunker redirect site that would be linkable on the board.

/nbhh/ is (was?) acceptable to link and some threads had bunkers already set. 

/mlpol/ is not acceptable to link and is a black sheep even if it has the better board.

Ideally all major generals would have a link to this site and that site would redirect to the appropriate bunker for your pone community.


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 >>/12101/
> Ideally all major generals would have a link to this site and that site would redirect to the appropriate bunker for your pone community.
Like desu, but just /mlp/ and if 4chan dies they can just "flip" the board? 


> /mlpol/ is not acceptable to link and is a black sheep even if it has the better board. 
IIRC, I thought /mlpol/ was sometimes linked on /mlp/ but it I don't visit there enough. Will check later. 

 >>/12101/
I get that. LOL, especially for the Sunset Shimmer rule. Some cool fanfics I would love to discuss that have her in it.

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Now unpinning from the top of the board. This can change in an instant though. Debating if I want to make a better OP being the only reason why I would make a new thread.



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