/ratanon/ - Rationalists Anonymous

 >>/2805/
> Have you read the new slate star codex article yet?
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 >>/2805/
> TFW no (r)accelerationist machinemensch GF to harvest your organs for the glory of Moloch
Why even live
I just want Nick Land to step on my balls and rant about sinofuturism

 >>/2807/
That's gay. Why is Land a Sinophile and not a weeb, anyway?

She doesn't really love you, you're just a human pet

I assume you just wanted somebody to post these, OP.

 >>/2810/
I actually hate that CYOA. the  choice system is dumb, the DLC just further emphasizes how dumb and bad the system is, and also it's weird that she asks what dere you want her to be but she's always yandere instead.

I mean, I'd still fuck the shit out of a yandere spaceship girl and maybe beggars can't be choosers, but that doesn't make it good.

 >>/2811/
What would be a better system, assuming you have to keep it a single-image CYOA?

 >>/2812/
Points? There's quite a few CYOAs where you customize a ship, and they basically all give you a budget of points/credits/spacebucks to spend on things. "Choose one of each type" is obviously meant to simplify things, but it feels overly restrictive and some of the choices are outright arbitrary which really rubs it in.

Where does the whole spaceship GF thing come from?

 >>/2814/
Banks

 >>/2814/
Iain M Banks' Culture novel series. I just realised that I always envisaged every Ship in the series as male. Are there any explicitly female Ships, or are they all ambiguous?

 >>/2816/
> ambiguous

At least a couple of the GSVs are either female or flamboyantly gay by name alone

 >>/0/
more like this please

–OFFICIAL /RATANON/ APPROVED SPECULATIVE FICTION AUTHORS–
• Peter Watts
• Ted Chiang
• Iain M Banks
• Neal Stephenson
• William Gibson (pre-1990 work only)
• Charles Stross
• Roger Williams (see The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect)
• Nick Land ;^)

 >>/2819/
There is a difference between "well known" and "approved". I would put Metamorphosis solidly in the former category.

 >>/2816/
 >>/2815/
And how did it become a hardcore nerd's stock romantic/sexual fantasy? Was there a seminal anime or fanfic or something that borrowed from Banks?

 >>/2819/
I used to like Stross but he's an SJW faggot now.

 >>/2815/
 >>/2816/
The first Culture novel came out in 1987 there's no fucking way no-one had thought of sapient ships potentially being someone's girlfriend before then. Show me *any* anime with a Spaceship Girl that was directly influenced by the Culture series.

Culture started hitting around the same time anime involuted and started ignoring Western SF. You look at the old guys like Anno or Tomino, they read tons of Western SF and watched as much Star Trek as sentai. Now you're lucky if Haruhi will allude to something as ancient as Hyperion.

 >>/2823/
Anyone up to do the research and find the earliest instance of a captain/spaceship avatar romance in anime? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceshipGirl is as good a starting point as any.
 >>/2824/
> anime involuted
Why did that happen?

 >>/2825/
I'm not convinced that it did. I think that there's been a shift to adaptions rather than OVAs - studios choosing safe bets rather than taking risks. So you get more safe, less experimental stuff, with less references to foreign SF.

One counterexample is Attack on Titan, which has a heavy western influence - the titans are straight out of Goya.

This mirrors the shift in Hollywood, obviously.

 >>/2819/

>  tfw no bruce sterling
>  tfw no stanislaw lem

 >>/2819/
Is Greg Egan /ratanon/-compliant?

> a spaceship gf thread with over two dozen posts
> no recs so far

 >>/2822/
He's been a SJ for years, what do you mean 'now'?

 >>/2827/
> Bruce Sterling

Schismatrix is pretty fucking good, especially "Twenty Evocations".

 >>/2839/
Why give recs when you can talk shit about SJWs?

 >>/2805/
Those views seem too progressive and not weird enough for a sapient spaceship and what life she may lead.

 >>/2920/
Of course not. None of it is really weird, it's all firmly at the center of the comfort zones of its creator and audience.

 >>/2921/
You're probably right about the creator's intention. For me, though, the obviously missing weirdness registers as wrong and possibly even sinister, not comfortable.

 >>/2839/
> recs
bumping for this

> 4chan writes a spaceshipfu story
> every character is an idiot
> tfw it could have easily been hotter AND smarter
The story is https://pastebin.com/5vqeuXBZ, if you're curious. My questions to /ratanon/ are,
1. Why hasn't the rat diaspora produced a good spaceship waifu series?
2. Whom should we hire to do it?

> not wanting moloch gf

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How about a different kind of shipfu?

I literally live with the person who made this and he's really fucking great.
Unironically wants to transition to be a spaceship

 >>/5328/
Usual practice is to leave the name and email fields blank

 >>/5328/
So he want to be  >>/2673/, #8?

 >>/5366/
Who doesn't? I want to stretch out my engine fields and race tachyons to the Lesser Magellenic. I wanna ride the spacial ripple of an imploding warp drive and spray antimatter needles into a horde of enemy drones with pinpoint precision. I want to be totally capable, utterly assured, armed to the teeth, algorithmically suave. I want to be ready for absolutely- 
positively-anything the universe can throw at me. I want a full tank of positrons and a straight shot at Andromeda.

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 >>/2822/
 >>/2880/
He's got worse tho. He used to moan about the Beige (i.e. neoliberalism 1975-20??) but since Brexit-Trump, he just wants a Nice Blair really

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 >>/2838/
well, see:
https://twitter.com/gregegansf?lang=en
his tl is a mix of tasty math/physics autism mixed with pro-refugee propaganda, so you tell me

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 >>/2827/
> stanislaw lem
the master

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 >>/5408/
He was already doing /g/'s C+= schtick twenty years ago, so he's earned enough countersignaling points to be alright in my book

 >>/5410/
Thats bretty gud, but if he wrote anything like that in a new book I suspect the current #woke sf crew would unperson him sharpish

 >>/2838/
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2012/03/egans-zendegi.html

 >>/5412/
You have to be pretty pwned to publish a civil rights allegory in 2010. I am really sick of those. Greg Egan should have move to Shanghai in the '90s.

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 >>/5408/
do you even Jevons Paradox nigga?

Is that Julia Galef?