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I liked "The Gig Economy" a lot. The main concept/reveal doesn't seem super novel, but the prose at a paragraph-by-paragraph level was really enjoyable, and his protagonist is extremely relatable.

His tweets and politics seem terrible, but I guess "good stories, awful opinions" was true for the original HP Lovecraft too.

 >>/5325/
Overly edgy, seemingly uninformed, and prone to overgeneralization. I liked the story, I'm disappointed about the quality of the tweets.
> The greatest misunderstanding in the history of morality is that “selfish” motives taint actions with immorality
I agree that selfishness doesn't make actions immoral. My impression is that effective altruists are much more likely than baseline to agree with that. theunitofcaring in particular keeps stressing that causing good things is good because they're good things, not because of your motives.
> Say you see a beggar on the street, and you decide to give him some money. You did a good thing, right? Wrong! You subsidized his failures. Charity begets only more dependence.
This is a factual claim. I don't know if it's true, but I think it could plausibly go either way, and depends on particular details, rather than characteristics of the overall idea of giving money to people who don't have enough money. Money distributed by GiveDirectly seems to do a lot of good and gets used for investments, even though the recipients are free to use it on whatever they want.
> What effective altruists get wrong is that when you can save someone’s life for $5, all you have done is preserve a life that was worth $5. You can easily put a price on human life, we do it every day, and you get what you pay for
I'm fond of markets, but this is just silly. Why would the economic value of something converge on its moral value? Aren't you just saying that everything that happens is good because it's a thing that happens, at that point?
> If you raise up a man who cannot feed himself, and through your subsidies he raises a family who go on to require your largesse, you will destroy yourself and him and his family when you run out of money
Again with the low-quality generalizations. One of the most popular EA charities is the Schistosomiasis Control Initiative, which distributes very cheap medicine to prevent schistosomiasis. Schistosomiasis isn't particularly lethal, but it causes all kinds of disabilities, including learning disabilities. Preventing it makes people stronger, not weaker.
Another EA charity is No Lean Season, which gives poor farmers enough money to pay for travel to the city to get a job during the lean season and send money back home, significantly increasing the nutritional intake of the family, and often letting them pay for next year's trip on their own. It's helping people feed themselves.

His more practical concerns are things EAs care a lot about and try to deal with as best as they can, and his more abstract concerns are bizarre and don't seem to be generated from consistently applied principles.
I wouldn't mind his opinions nearly as much if they were at all convincing.

Like most of those weirdtwitter/frogtwitter/nrx affiliated accounts, posting vaguely "deep" sounding stuff in the hope that somebody will think he has an insightful point to make. If you actually stop and consider the content beyond its superficial landian aesthetic you'll quickly realise that those are all just kids with too much spare time and not enough social interaction. Conclusion: needs to start lifting ASAP to cure the ghey.

 >>/5453/
I'd agree with your post if it was about right-wing Twitter in general, but I think you performed a lazy pattern match on 0 HP. On Twitter he writes concretely, mostly summarizing and synthesizing from Moldbug, Hanson, Goffman, Nietzsche, etc. He is apparently married and not that young (possibly a 4chan and OB/LW oldfag).




 >>/5458/
Humanism is a specific ideology that you can't derive from the word itself (and that isn't exactly opposite to transhumanism, in case you were going for that).
I never looked into it deeply, but secularism is a major part of it. There's a lot of progressivism and opinions about abortion seem to be divided.
I don't think 0HP is a humanist at all.






 >>/6036/
Same. It's mysterious to me why he's this fond of the West's original leftist cult. Sure it's better than progressivism, but I would characterize this take as "conservative" rather than "reactionary".





His writing style is great.

The Gig Economy is 9,5/10.
Incredible prose and everything ties nicely together.
I would give it a 10/10, but the ending is LITERALLY just Kill La Kill ala humanity's progress is a result of Lovecraftian monsters' spores infesting earth while pretending to be a commodity or tool. 
I understand why he did it, though, and I genuinely can't blame him. As a serious adaptation of Lovecraft coupled with modern Acc, it's pure perfection.

Does anyone if any of his other stories are accessible? I am thirsty.





 >>/6178/
It seems to me like there is nothing constructive about e-celeb threads.
Regarding zero, I like Gig Economy but most of his twitter ramblings are just there to dogmatize his following. Like just look at that awful "incel weaboo" tweet that kinda makes sense when you first look at it but doesn't make sense at all except if you buy the whole lovecraftian landian post-rat guru schlick.

Also from this thread where someone quoted him:
> If a man speaks his inner thoughts and compulsions in an honest way, it will sound to most women like the shrieking of a demon.
I'm not sure if you are aware but this is how people currently imagine incels sounding like.

 >>/6179/
The rationalist diaspora is an e-celeb thread.

As for Zero, you are taking him too literally. He seems never to be 100% serious, and this thread has gone in the direction of collecting his most lulzy takes. Though he is probably more serious about the shrieking than about the anime.


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