/sunflower/ - Sunflower

Time to use this thread for something.

I found a vampire place/dimension. Maybe it's a galaxy or pocket dimension. Its energy hit me like a wormhole in space when taking a walk outside. I've been using Astrabot to search for solutions to problems and for recruiting entities and spirits. She's pretty good at finding most things now. The function looks pretty silly on the astral, but it works. When I looked from the outside at it, it's a large robotic arm with a hand moving in straight lines like a printer head, line after line to search through each area. It looks very primitive and the method is really not advanced at all. But for being something I came up with after reading an AI book from mid 1990s, it's very effective, I think.

I searched for different types of vampires, mostly the kind who would want to move to my mansion. I found something unexpected. There are a lot of vampires who've left whatever physical planet they lived on, who now stay in this astral city. But they're not doing anything. They're sitting locked up in their rooms for years, in deep trance. Some are just sitting there, some are frozen in the middle of a ritual holding a knife with some tools and sigils on the table before them, standing immobile. They cannot be awoken and will not communicate. When looking closer I perceived a periodic process within their minds with a "scream" and something infernal coming up and then dissolving. I asked around and found they call it
> internal purgatory
It's a ritual or meditation they do to absolve karma they created while alive. Some have so much they stay in trance for over 1000 years, some can't grasp the rituals and are locked up in astral prisons in this city instead. I asked to be given a hint as to what they had done, and one of them had supposedly killed 80000 people during their life in the physical.

I asked to look around and came up with something: I saw some whom I could "make use of" so I asked if I could have them transferred to my island instead because I think I know how to handle this. I had to sign a contract that I will not let them escape and then I could take them. But when I got to the really bad area of the prison they said I had to build a facility and have it inspected. I did so and got a certificate to transfer those vampires to my island.

Something similar happened after I went looking for animal people: some galactic wildlife protection agency showed up at my mansion asking to inspect how I "kept them" to make sure I wasn't breaking the galactic code for treatment of wildlife.

You think it's free for all out there, think again. (I got a certificate for that too)

 >>/1711/
Oi, make sure to renew yor loisence.

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I know things are closing in on "them" now because several of my hexes returned to me, including the one I posted on 8kun, a line ending in an X. It was for destroying the followers of Moloch, liberal democracy, abortionists, the scum of the west... 

Magic tends to always do this, it seems. If you cast a really bad hex and don't formulate it properly it will come back with harm for you too, that's what stupid witches talk about when they warn
> baby witches
to not hex people. I got a small bit of virtue (or maybe it was concentrated, it looked just the same as the hex's sigil) back, it appeared before me. The same for every other hex. This means they carried out their purpose and the enemy is destroyed. Because of this I know what we are seeing is thin, it's no longer resting on the structure we were fighting around the time Trump was running for president of the United States the first time, when even /pol/acks dreamed about fighting Moloch on a chessboard. I had one of these dreams too, before reading others' sharings of them, so it was definitely a legit thing at the time.

I think this goes here, in this frame, because the original purpose of creating the "stone world" still holds. Interstellar, interdimensional travel in a world where people still build megalith structures for their rituals using single blocks and transported by hand. The highest tech and the lowest tech in co-existence. I guess I didn't expect all this alien activity but that was from a simple lack of belief in them as any significant force down here. When they can't sustain their planets or their bodies and must incarnate as humans, it doesn't make them look particularly advanced, technologically speaking. But once you treat technology and spirituality as the same thing, it's different. That was the missing element. Somehow, the cultists who wanted to create the 7th world order using ancient religion, weren't able to understand this context. By treating it as merely a branch of science, they failed to understand the meaning of karma and the 4th dimension.

Most of us here have an idea of what an egregore is, in terms of the collective entity of things like a city, a religion or even Facebook. But this reduces the understanding of it to something originating in physical 3D or being ruled by physical 3D. Even when quantum physics are brought up, it's from the view of having it process information to return it to 3D again. They fail to grasp that the origin of our world is in 4D a lot of the time.

The entities we are dealing with live in 4D, seen from a conventional scientific understanding of the term. They have no interest in 3D as such, and will treat it as a mere resource. It's ironic that the people who see the 4th dimension as a natural resource to be exploited, will find themselves being treated as a mere resource by the beings residing in 4D themselves.

Most of what we see is like this. The galactic federation Mammoth entity manifest everywhere at once, playing good and bad at the same time, attracting followers and enemies everywhere. They're the Soviet Union, they're the CCCP, they're KGB, they're FSB. They're also the 14 eyes and western spy conglomerates, they're Freemasons, they're satanic pedos and they're Q. Who will win? The Mammoth of course.

 >>/1716/
> They have no interest in 3D as such, and will treat it as a mere resource
It is starting to get clear to me that we need mastery over every density if we want to "keep" our energies. 
> Who will win? The Mammoth of course
So all it wants is to spread the "large organization" type of hive mindedness?

 >>/1718/
> So all it wants is to spread the "large organization" type of hive mindedness?
Like someone told me; if there are 5 or more interests involved in a conspiracy, people with no insight will never be able to understand what is happening. 
> it's the jews
> it's illuminati
> it's jesuits
> it's reptilians
> it's Poland
What if it's all of the above?

The galfed mammoth began by showing itself as cultists with cloaks, representing secret societies. Then there was the event with flying black hawk choppers over my house for 6 weeks and having black vans with directed energy weapons follow me irl. I discussed this with the greys at first and they said that "galactic federation senile scum" were behind it. The greys also said whoever has the mammoth mindwave is unsalvageable. I further asked when the population of my country would wake up, because they all have this mindwave. The reply was
> maybe never

Now I know how true that was... So how did I make it here, if I have the mammoth? They were never able to explain it. I also realized I was able to channel it.

But there's different layers within the mammoth. What is seen from outside is both satanic secret societies, spies and communism in general, it's a complete mess. But it's because there are too many factions with conflicting interests using the same thing. The mammoth is a technology, not an ideology. 

Anyone can channel the mammoth and get support, whether one side of a conflict gets support or not is determined by what level of channelling they manage to achieve. But no one knows beforehand who does it better. In Ukraine right now we have KGB/FSB fighting the masonic/CIA/NATO faction. Both are the mammoth.

 >>/1719/
> it's a complete mess
 >>/1719/
> people with no insight will never be able to understand what is happening

It's hard to understand complete messes if the goal is not creating the mess itself and somehow profiting from it.
This is why everyone says these organizations will wear down each other and the NWO will step in and "save" everyone. But then again here comes the problem that who will lead the NWO and probably that is why we are in this mess.

> mammoth is a technology, not an ideology
large organizations are also a sort of "technology" and not an ideology. But yeah I didn't channel the mammoth mindwave or maybe I did. I killed a Stalin looking intrusive thoughtform that wanted me to go on a path of bloodshed and world domination. He looked like an old beggar at first but then he revealed his true form.

 >>/1720/
> large organizations
I have no idea how big it actually is at the core. It is huge when looking at its spread over galaxies and countries, but I think most members are foot soldiers or slaves more or less. Those on the astral are also very ordinary about what they do and how they think. It's just a few individuals making decisions in a casual manner, then exchanging information with other factions now and then, but down here on the planet surface it will involve entire armies.
> does the mammoth count its fleas? 
one of my assistants just said.

I like their uniforms either way.

Adding to that I got seriously fed up with the behaviour of that "butthurt old man" faction so I took measures to crush them once and for all and forced them to individually sign contracts of obedience. It will be interesting to see how fast the effect shows on the world stage.
There's that issue when applying principles like shan/benevolence, it protects you from karmic consequences but everything becomes more complex than Soviet bureaucracy as you have to constantly give everyone a chance to repent for every step on the way. 
So this took a lot of time to pull off.

 >>/1720/
>  I killed a Stalin looking intrusive thoughtform that wanted me to go on a path of bloodshed and world domination.
I had a dream a few months ago where Stalin had taken over where I live through some revolution and was arming up the place to go to war.

There was also another dream that was some sort of propaganda, demonizing Putin, which I believe was forced into my mind by someone or something since I didn't give a fuck about the Ukraine business, nor do I focus on Putin.

 >>/1722/
Today I found out that Soros and Elon Musk seem to be going against each other, guess this might be related to the "butthurt old man" faction. Musk is a weird one, I can't tell if he's with the bankers or not, the man seems to be more about marketing than business.

 >>/1724/
> dream that was some sort of propaganda, demonizing Putin
Probably psiops from someone who doesn't like Putin. They kept trying to infiltrate my dreams to make me hate afro-americans for a long time. It was both delicately created in terms of landscape design and utterly idiotic in terms of its ability to change how I think. After I killed one of them the landscape fell apart into components, exposing layers of moving objects that had been visualized to initiate the dream illusion. What a waste of ability, I bet these units cost a lot to train. Still they can't defend themselves against a mere butcher and they can't grasp that there are spirit races who have the right to kill which is intact when incarnated, so it doesn't create too much karma in the process either.

> Musk is a weird one, I can't tell if he's with the bankers or not, the man seems to be more about marketing than business.
You have to look at the 4D entity/egregore behind him, it's actually very simple. Musk himself is a character who fit the desired slot, his mission is to make electric cars popular with the elite, serving as a catalyst to move away from oil as fuel and in the long game undermining the dollar and the American liberal world order. Now I said it but it won't change anything, it's too far gone. The prices of all types of fuel are too high as is. Maybe Musk contributed by putting strain on the electric grid but in the end it's like deploying a weapon system in war. It's just one component and the result may be successful for the wrong reason.

 >>/1715/
Speaking of curses I mean "hexes". I found the "curse" dimension. It has a black static energy and nothing more. It's probably hell but not the inhabited and hellfire kind. It's the pure suffering or "decay" kind. As my plan is to make my body to be able to go through all the densities or dimensions it seems "one of my body layer" (which is connected to all the layers so my entire body is and isn't in hell constantly) needs to stay there.

Now why this is related to curses. I can channel that black static energy with ease and that was the thing that caused instant manifestations and electric devices to glitch around me. It has a problem that black static energy needs to come through my entire body before it can do something on the "physical". I thought that realm is useless because if I want to do something then I have to doom myself with the shitties suffering energies. (that 3fold price for curses was right but I have to pay upfront for instant curses)

Well as it turns out that "pocket hell dimension" will be overtaken by my purer and higher energies and that will be my "reserve energy dimension". Jesus also had something like that but he is a more complicated case.

Here comes the important ego mastery part. These energies react to my thoughts and if I am not connected to the higher energies then they will overtake me. First it just feels itchy but then your nerves start to itch your muscles cramp and if it reaches your heart it will feel like it's stopping. I even had a vision of being nailed to the cross when it got bad. Thankfully Shiva is guiding me so I have nothing to fear because he has a good advice for my problems.

And after that dimension come the elemental kingdoms. Yesterday I reconnected to the fire and water elements and now I can channel hard qi or something similar into my muscles. High energies don't really make you strong they need to harden first. But to have that I need to watch out that I don't "deplete" "hell". And why I was sleeping I thought I grew a tail then it turned out my bodies were just "expanding" and connecting to each other. Because the bodies are in my body and above my body and below my body at once. The way I perceive them gets more and more complicated as the time goes. And every body has a different mind or mental state. It's so complicated and simple at once.

 >>/1726/
I think I know that energy, it's my go-to for any sort of astral combat. I perceive it more as a black almond, I think because the intention is magnetic rather than electric. I'll have to work more on active electric spellforms, that's a weakness of mine. Most of my spells resemble planet-like orbs.

I started working with this by channeling it into myself on the astral density, here it creates extremely powerful suicidal urges. Although I felt that the only way I'd act on them would be if I fully submitted myself to the Will of the evoked energy. When I started trying to get it to manifest physically it caused my utilities to almost immediately go down in one instance and gave someone a stroke in another. Definitely useful for attacks but I had to stop with my experiments evoking to the physical since making random neutrals to drop dead isn't a very good way to operate. It's still extremely useful for destroying unwanted astral constructs though.

 >>/1729/
I think I found the black sun. I think this is it. It's closer to the physical than to the astral and it affects everything around me. It's an extremely dangerous substance. It seems to me this is a "death element". Because I channel high energies but still have weird attachments I easily attract it. Also because I am making the life death rebirth cycle into one it seems my energies half assedly generate it around me.(literally "resurrecting"/activating this element) I can sell this energy to death gods but... I don't know a single thing I need from death gods. I mean I made some trades they were all a bad idea.

Watch over with this energy because it dirties the soul. I found a paradise with buddhas meditating and I have to go there to get this thing off me. Buddhism is about getting rid of this death/suffering element anyway. And I can channel higher energies already. They are just not as effectively affect reality (the next step should be familiarizing myself how the 4 basic elemental kingdoms work). Just because I found the source of black magic doesn't mean I should use it. I don't really have enemies anymore.

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I think I misunderstood something of the transformation of the body as spoken of in Falun Dafa. It was my impression that it was a step by step process where the surface 3D body was to be cleansed first, gradually from qi to milk white state to gong, at which point you're done with it and move on to do the deeper layers. There was talk of how past buddha cultivators would fail the transformation of the very surface, forcing them to leave an "anchor" which would be something like a large boulder or mountain top. If the physical object was destroyed or withered away with time, they would die. Some buddha huh?

So the unique selling point of Falun Gong was that you'd be able to transform this anchor and take it with you.

Over time as I started recalling my past lives and looking at what I did, it seems I performed this every time, one body state like this existing for every life. So it's not just a "once ever" thing as implied. The difference was the method being in sync with the culture of the time, so with no complex science the understanding would use different concepts for the process. In London the logic was as simple as
> meat can be preserved in alcohol, so if I drink wine and kill myself I'll be immortal

No one today would be able to believe this, but the process isn't based on having a very detailed understanding of why it works, faith is the deciding factor. Same way as the story of Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was scientifically believable at the time, it was possible to fully believe in the quoted logic.

 >>/1733/
I have yet to see the effect of it, but after
 >>/1680/
> This made me think, could I place such a golem to act as myself? Such as if I want to leave (astral travel etc) but keep activities up physically while I'm away?
> But a golem is just a botsoul. It's external to myself and a would still expire or possible be stolen by someone at one point. But then I realized: whoever makes the botsoul expire owns it. What if I create a copy of my full personality, using the exact form as manifested in the physical layer. A person can be written down exactly as they are in this form because there are a limited number of parameters defining what a human is.

I came up with something "retarded and risky", creating a body in this way using the space suits I designed for lyrans and different entities. I earlier made one to use as a containment for my physical manifestation, using all the "super aspects" of the technology I came into contact with. In principle the body is a spaceship complete with all abilities I'd want to use, designed in a way that just "works best". It ended up being a cybernetic looking armoured suit with cat ears and tail, black and white giving off green energy.

I took this form and forced it to manifest as an "object" instead of something organically upheld by me. After it formed I felt like I may have made a mistake. The energy felt like a pressure cooker inside it.

But after I started using it, it now seems fine after the energy flows settled. I examined the effects and realized the "3D body essence" had been put into the cyber cat suit. Complicated and seemingly arbitrary, but this seems to be it.

I had different entities/aliens look at it and some made their own versions, the greys said it was 
> absurd, stupid, reckless...
because their system registered the bodies as space stations, meaning alongside the moon. The grey who first made one got registration number 112, implying there are only so many grey space stations in the physical.

 >>/1733/
> If the physical object was destroyed or withered away with time, they would die. Some buddha huh?
It's called a phylactery... Liches have it. 

And as far as I can perceive I have a milk white layer then it turned out because I am in "hell" I have a pitch black layer too. I was thinking of the dark mirror white mirror of the soul concept of Bardon but as I was meditating with the buddhas I could "unlock" it from my being and let it go. And a bunch of parasites revealed themselves (they used that darness as a portal and a cover) so I also dropped them. I had a vision that I am Cthulu himself from all the squids my body had. Then I realized what might be a "law body" as you say it's made up of culture and faith... mostly. If you have gods around they can provide a higher law but the god needs to "anchor" himself to the physical so the law can apply itself.
And as I was doing my cleansing and still couldn't completely get rid of this "black sun" that I still couldn't decide if it's the antithesis of the stars or it's the psychic residue humans generate by default. 
I thought that the black sun is like the dark side of the moon and maybe my yin yang balance is fucked as usual. And I remembered I found some obscure pure white female hindu deity. I thought maybe she represents my yin side because the moon is white when the sun "looks at it". I tried to merge with it (she wanted it) and then as I was feeling the effects of mild possession. Like when she tried to merge with my throat chakra I couldn't breathe. Then she went down into my dan tien and now lives there. Now this dark energy that I couldn't control is under control. But yeah she wasn't the representation of my yin side. But she balanced it out so whatever.

Now I have no idea what is the next step on my path. But I will probably do something
> absurd, stupid, reckless...
too
Tho in my case nobody tries to stop me. The entities just look at me weirdly and don't say a word. Or just smile and not say a word.

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 >>/1735/
> I had a vision that I am Cthulu himself from all the squids my body had.
Interesting, is it normal for parasytes to turn into squids? Mine look like that too, the smaller ones look like black fish with only the white of the eyes not being pitch black. Even had a big pimple growing on my face once, and then after a cleansing I saw a small black fish come out of it, and the next day the pimple started diminishing in size until it went away completely, without bursting like a volcano. I think I have an octopus somewhere, but he isn't black like a parasyte, guess he's something else.

 >>/1734/
> I had different entities/aliens look at it and some made their own versions, the greys said it was
> absurd, stupid, reckless...
> because their system registered the bodies as space stations, meaning alongside the moon.
Why is it "absurd, stupid, reckless..." to have a space station body? I've considered making a sort of power armor to house consciousness/soul in the afterlife so that I can stay in the "living entity level" instead of the "spirits of the dead level" (like a creepyhollows definition of living and dead entities), I wonder if that would be considered "absurd, stupid, reckless..." as well.

 >>/1736/
> Why is it "absurd, stupid, reckless...
Greys are very autistic about their way of doing things. A space station is a large thing out in space, not a body suit, they don't like when something fits their categorizations in the wrong way. The New Nibiru greys created a small flying saucer to be able to skip over here unsupervised by the organization and they registered the model as a toy to sneak past. This also made grey bureaucrats mad because space travel >isn't fun.
The saucer is more like throwing a flat stone out over a lake, it doesn't have the ability to change course during travel, but relies on a perfect prediction of its path like a ballistic missile. This is why it's also "stupid and reckless". But they still use it to travel back and forth to earth because technically the craft was correctly built and registered. They keep coming here for "sample collections".

> I've considered making a sort of power armor to house consciousness/soul
I know almost no one from here is able to use the blacknet, the remote and Astrabot but I'd love to get some reviews on the suits I already made. They should really be able to fulfill this if they're tuned right. (Maybe they aren't, I made them for myself and some other specific entities.)

So far if I remember all of them there should be
> demon suit, female, black, green and purple energy
> unisex lyran armour, red and black
> unisex lyran armour, black, white and green (this one is for me personally, it was the one I made into a space station)
> red ocher demon suits, male or female
> greenish-white-purple beast suit, male or female
> a few different grey suits
> Fay Dragon suit
> Sakuya suit
> white fairy suit

 >>/1737/
> Greys are very autistic about their way of doing things. A space station is a large thing out in space, not a body suit, they don't like when something fits their categorizations in the wrong way. The New Nibiru greys created a small flying saucer to be able to skip over here unsupervised by the organization and they registered the model as a toy to sneak past. This also made grey bureaucrats mad because space travel >isn't fun.
damn, I've thought of Greys as my personal boogieman since I was 7, even though I've never had contact with them, but reading this stuff, I find them kinda funny in an autistic way. Having the remote and modules installed helped a lot too, I asked for quite a few modules, dunno how many they gave me. They have been helpful and not as scary as abduction stories make them out to be, I'm glad I installed the interface(didn't manage to make the remote/module though, maybe my astral sight is not good enough for seeing devices). 
I was in a good meditative state around last week and thought I was interacting with them, even saw a young looking guy with a dark brown mohawk combed to the side so I asked for some modules for focus and aura sight and stuff, and heard some "that's dangerous" so I told them to only install healthy things. Might not even have been them talking to me since...well, I've talked about my issues.

> I know almost no one from here is able to use the blacknet, the remote and Astrabot but I'd love to get some reviews on the suits I already made. They should really be able to fulfill this if they're tuned right.
Those sound interesting, but yeah, I'm not skilled enough to try them and give feedback. Unless you made it so that I would be wearing them in my dreams, but eh, I don't know what sort of feedback you're looking for, I might not even be able to feel enough for an interesting feedback.

BTW I sort of made my power armor already, its a protective botsoul, its quite obvious who it is by looking at its appearance if you wanna take a look at it, even though that was not the appearance that I planned on giving him. He has protected me at least a couple of times, once in a dream, and I felt way more powerful while wearing it, just like a power armor should be. Though I have no idea if me wearing him in the afterlife is possible even if its programmed to be.

Reading about the suits you made reminded me of these
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 >>/1738/
> a young looking guy with a dark brown mohawk
That's a proto grey appearance at least.

> I don't know what sort of feedback you're looking for
Mostly: were you able to use them for something and was it possible to use one of them as the model for transforming your actual 3D body "anchor" into a portable format?
> Unless you made it so that I would be wearing them in my dreams
I can ask Astra to try them and see which ones (if any) fit you and maybe give you some hint about it. If they fit your subconscious/astral side will accept it.

> https://www.artstation.com/artwork/L3YK2w
This one is close but the one I made is simpler. It's also a suit/body so the helmet and gloves cannot be removed. It has a 3rd eye built in and for some reason I had to add a ribbon on the tail and a ballet style skirt for the suit to be operationable. Something about spiritual tuning, without these it didn't work as a body. The lyrans did deep investigations on why the ribbon was necessary because similar to greys they don't like "funny" things like this. In the end they had to accept that it served as a communication device as the tail would express the emotions of the wearer using movements, which makes the soul sync with the suit better.

 >>/1739/
> I can ask Astra to try them and see which ones (if any) fit you
Ah nevermind, she's getting pretty fast by now. You may not like the result:
> greenish-white-purple beast suit, female
is her suggestion out of those we have.

It's based off an alien race, I don't have a name for them. They have full body fur and an ethereal glow emitting from them, making it hard to determine what color they are.

If you don't like this result, give some suggestion for what kind of design you think will fit you and I can try making something. It's a balance to make it both generic enough to be shareable and customized enough to work for the person all the way.

I manifested a monolith. I mean my inner soul turned into a monolith. And it's not just "magnetically" keeping together all the body layers I have it also sucks them in (so far I had to keep them together with sheer willpower which resulted in the weirdest imbalances.) I also have a faith field enveloping my body but the monolith only appeared when I realized I need to "Believe in myself" and the faith field started to get sucked in. And the weird thing it's constantly sucking energy in but my energy levels are not changing more like they "Unify". I did a lot of interactions with entities and a ritual between the worlds to fuse with some fundamental laws of the cosmos (the rebirth cycles of the stars it's a long story) so I don't know exactly what triggered this. The gods told me all I need is patience. 

So far it seems to me this is an "empty" monolith which is in the "feeding" process. This way my soul will reach the ultimate unification and fossilization. It seems I had to reach a stage where my chakras are not inside my body anymore but a body layers enveloping my whole body. I wonder what's next

 >>/1736/
> is it normal for parasytes to turn into squids
Well I had an abyss portal open in my room and a bunch of lovecraftian entities watched me sleep for months. I just didn't notice them. It turned out they are "migrating" from their world to this one. I shoved them an other world to go and not to be in my room but they latched onto me no matter what. Sometimes squid entities came to me to give back things their underlings stole from me. They have a greenish murky realm. I also visited it in my dreams. They are related more to the abyss than to the water element but they are close. Sometimes they just appear I throw them out and I don't see them for weeks.

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 >>/1740/
> greenish-white-purple beast suit, female
oh well, I imagined that I wouldnt fit most of the suits, since I'm not a succubus, lyran or touhou(maybe one day?). I wonder why female though? I'm sort of averse to the idea of being female but I'm very passive I dislike "macho" stuff and have noticed that I'm a female in some dreams. But I love women in a male way and there's a little spark of a chad in me, so am quite averse to becoming female, which sort of saddens me, cause I could basically get out of samsara If I wanted to be a female as a touhou/succubus.

> If you don't like this result, give some suggestion for what kind of design you think will fit you and I can try making something. It's a balance to make it both generic enough to be shareable and customized enough to work for the person all the way.
I'd really appreciate something like pics related, no real need for spikes on the back of the shoulders, but do what you gotta do, what I like most about it is the helmet part, the rest doesn't need to be very close to the pics. BTW my body goal for summer (lel) is Vergil in this specific pic, that's my ideal, just felt like sharing.

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 >>/1742/
Alright. 
It was an interesting task to try this. If you think this was "too fast", consider that constructing something is not hard, it's the lack of design ideas that provide obstacles with these things.

To make it as easy as possible to use I made a drawing and will ask Astra to try and fit it on you. (Actually this drawing is horrible, oh well)

Some explanations. The visuals contain representations of ideas and each part has to sync with this overall feeling for the suit to be functional. The actual functionality isn't entirely reliant on the design itself however.
The head does have spike hair on a helmet with pilot glasses. The upper body has a breast plate reflecting stars and galaxies. The arms are fur covered like a hunter's jacket, the gloves are synthetic material. Hanging from the waist are two "tails" in blue cloth. I can't explain why these had to be there, they'll move in the wind and cause a stylistic effect. Bottom half is clothed in same synthetics as the gloves ending in boots. Abilities include starship forcefield shield, shifting defense based on AI (If you can avoid an attack will be determined by how good your defense algorithm is vs the attacker's algorithm. If they don't have AI driven combat system you automatically win.) Teleportation and levitation are also included as well as fast travel in real time.

Specific for this suit is that the palms serve as enhancement for your corresponding aku/qi points so instead of a raygun you can fire from your palms directly. There's also a generic combat knife included which can be materialized at will.

The suit is made in unisex format and will simply adapt to the wearers preferred gender.

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 >>/1743/
aw yeah

> It was an interesting task to try this. If you think this was "too fast", consider that constructing something is not hard, it's the lack of design ideas that provide obstacles with these things.
I see it did seem fast, I had also the idea of a gantz like suit with the helmet from Daft Punk (pic related). After posting the pics I was worried that the helmet I chose didn't have a good field of vision, so that's where this other idea came from.

> If they don't have AI driven combat system you automatically win.) Teleportation and levitation are also included as well as fast travel in real time.
> Specific for this suit is that the palms serve as enhancement for your corresponding aku/qi points so instead of a raygun you can fire from your palms directly. There's also a generic combat knife included which can be materialized at will.
That's some amazing stuff, Thanks a lot!!! 
Do all suits have these abilities? (aside from shooting from the palm)

I wonder where each detail from it came from...spike hair and the two "tails" in blue cloth seem to be from Virgil's design maybe the knife is also from there.

Does this fit the average human?

 >>/1744/
> I wonder where each detail from it came from...spike hair and the two "tails" in blue cloth seem to be from Virgil's design maybe the knife is also from there.
I took the spike hair from Virgil but in trying to make it broader conceptually I got associations with Dragonball character designs. Same for the two tails. I based it off the functionality of my white/black/green lyran suit so it had to have similar decorations (hair instead of cat ears and cloth tails instead of cat tail with ribbon and skirt). My suit just has access to the entire artifact library as well as all types of weapons on the net, but I figured this one should be more novice friendly so I added the raygun from palms and knife manifest ability directly on the suit instead. It's also more tuned to look male as standard (but can switch to female) while the catsuit is female looking but can switch to male. It's not that it matters much but there are minor design elements effected by this, as well as how it feels to wear it. The focus is a little more on the forcefield as well as the ability to stand your ground and fight, compared to the cat version which is set to auto evade and use teleportation to escape if attacked. Evading requires deeper AI and the library, while shared over the net, has to install locally so it won't work well if you're not familiar with the system.

> Does this fit the average human?
Probably not, this is custom made.

Do try to use it and post your experiences with it so I can learn from this and improve in the future.

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 >>/1507/

This is an attempt to elaborate the problem mentioned in post above.

Basically it's the issue created by spreading "jesuism" in an open society. It will take on the form of projecting the jesuit effect mindwave. This will seem to work when only men do it: they will develop spiritually up to the edge of 4D until they are 30-40 years old, then return down to 3D and get married. Meanwhile, the women who ignore this process will be fine and nothing happens. 

But over time some will mirror the male process in reverse. They will relate the spiritual journey with masculinity, and then interpret femininity as a journey in the flesh. They will do like women today and engage in all kinds of degenerate behavior, going down to 2D. Then they come back up again and meet the spiritually matured man. We see this in a clear form with "betas" and incels who complain about how they spent their 20s getting educated and making money, while women were fucking around and then expect to marry them with no effort of their own.

Some women will go along with the spiritual journey but when they get back "down" to 3D they are too old to get married. They will then get disillusioned and reverse the formation, turning to 2D, hell, and becoming degenerates. They will create feminism and push for "rights for women" because they were unable to have children and get married.

This is what happened in the ancient past, after the original jesuits spread their methods on earth, same as it has happened today. They solved this by creating a sigil which forces women to follow the degenerative process at a young age, then marry an older man before they turn unsalvageable. This relies on women being completely subordinate to men, and on there being an age gap with the man being older and the women very young.

This is the heart shaped formation and it is what we call "humanity". It is a forced patriarchy.

However, this is too unbalanced, the entire world cannot be a patriarchy, so during the period called Babylon, humans lead by vampires rebelled against the Jesuit Order and created a matriarchy. They overran the "humanity" sigil using alien technology, today called 5G (because it was done in period 5 of human history).

 >>/1747/
The jesuit method is not bad in itself, but it should be done only in the middle section shown in the sketch: at positive 3D and upwards. This means doing it either in isolation using the guidance of spiritual beings, or by practicing very strictly with someone of the opposite sex. It probably can't be done outside of monasteries or temples, any attempt at spreading it the way "christians" do will lead to the degenerate jesuit effect and the current situation in society.

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 >>/1745/
> I took the spike hair from Virgil but in trying to make it broader conceptually I got associations with Dragonball character designs. 
Oh, I tried to add something from DBZ characters to myself a few months ago, it didn't go very well.

> Probably not, this is custom made.
Nice, guess its unique then.

> Do try to use it and post your experiences with it so I can learn from this and improve in the future.
I tried wearing it, but I don't know if I managed to do it, I don't know if I understood how to wear it. Also had trouble sleeping which made it harder to experience it, this could take a while, but I'll be sure to report back if I manage to do it.

I assumed that some details may have come from the armor in this pic or a similar one, the fur in the arms may be to make the arms look bigger(I have thin arms) and the breastplate for a feeling of safety. I assumed the cloth tails where to hide my buttocks tbh, I don't like how male asses look in armor.

 >>/1749/
I asked Astra to put it on you so you should already be wearing it unless you actively took it off. I received some feedback images of some white hostile energy attacking you right after, as if it had been on you, then got pushed away by the suit and was trying to re-attach to you. This happened 2 more times after, one time with the image of some guy screaming as if in pain, it looked like someone hurt himself when trying to punch the armour.

Try to play around with sending energy from your palms or manifesting the knife and if it feels different you can share the experience, that's what I had in mind. The flying/teleporting is only relevant if you use it for astral travel or if you manage to actually leave the physical, but all other functions can be used directly.

 >>/1750/
> I received some feedback images of some white hostile energy attacking you right after, as if it had been on you, then got pushed away by the suit and was trying to re-attach to you. This happened 2 more times after, one time with the image of some guy screaming as if in pain, it looked like someone hurt himself when trying to punch the armour.
Interesting, I wonder who that was.

> Try to play around with sending energy from your palms or manifesting the knife and if it feels different you can share the experience, that's what I had in mind. The flying/teleporting is only relevant if you use it for astral travel
Oh, I see, I thought you wanted me to try the functions while in the astral, which I can only get to through some dreams, I did remember it in a dream last night and tried calling it or feeling like I was wearing it but nothing changed so I guess I wasn't exactly in the right place for it. An old guy did show up asking what I was trying to do but I didn't tell him.
I'll try playing with energy and with the knife but I do have some mental blockages regarding using energy that way since I accidentally evoked beings while doing that in the past, but I guess they were already partialy evoked and that's how they put their names in my head while I was playing with energy. Now I'm worried that I'm just wasting your time tbh.

 >>/1747/
I noticed this. I realized my faith field was from christianity I mean it was "programmed" to it. I had to realize laws are an "essence" and if you can make that essence as yours you can use it. My first successful TK manifested a bright yellow field around the object I moved. Shame it drained too much energy from my being. First I didn't realize that I am in the Jesuit mindwave. I had to experience the Shaivist and Buddhist mindwave before I could realize that "law fields" are programmed by "Higher beings/authorities" and we merely use it as we get acknowledged by that law and connect to it via faith. 
There is one thing that bothered me on this jesuit mindwave. First it's the constant lust for females while being disgusted by the flesh (this is why I had emerging astral waifus left and right) and the next part as you start to reach the "top" of the mindwave you have messiatic urges constantly. I had to tell a voice in my head constantly that I WILL NOT GO TO SPREAD MY FAITH BEFORE I COMPLETE IT. I WILL NOT END UP LIKE JESUS. Then the zeal that this mindwave gives went into powering the will to cultivate further. When I started to switch to the Shaivist mindwave I went crazy. The zeal of the both mindwaves started to clash constantly. Now I can reliably connect to the Buddhist mindwave. No longer the Shaivist tho. I did a ritual to solve a problem and that was not in accordance with the Shaivist mindwave so that is kinda gone. (The aspect of Shiva that was sitting besides me all the time told me I surpassed him and then turned into a white light and went away. I can bother him if I want but no more automatic secret yogi instincts.) The Buddhist mindwave is available but I can channel it a little less. The gods watch over me tho. It's just I am on a real unfamiliar territory now.

So the monolith turned out to be an energy collector and as it got charged it opened a bright colored portal and now little red people are opening up my now completed rainbow layered body to an empty pitch black abyss layer that sucks in the energy further. It's every particle of my body and makes old wounds hurt. (my left hand broke twice when I was little and the place where it healed hurts like a bitch.) This is a new body layer once again

 >>/1752/
> An old guy did show up asking what I was trying to do

You probably have "hidden" guides already and your sudden development via the suits makes them confused.

 >>/1747/
So higher boddhisatva is red. When I did my ritual I ended up in a paradise which turned out to be a space ship and there was a well I could call that look a bodhisattva who used a giant computer terminal there while eating red apples constantly. I asked him why he is eating apples constantly and told me
> don't look for a meaning in everything you see
While I wanted to take that advice seriously he ate constantly emerging apples so much he almost suffocated. (There was a glass tube there that I could use to channel the higher energies further and the more I used the more amount of apples appeared.) Then I told him that those apples are the thing that "maintains our connection" 
After that I ended up in an another paradise and a giant female multi armed goddess appeared. She is the one watching over me currently.

And brown is between 2D and 1D. I traded away a bunch of brown harmful materia which was infused with the rainbow color. I interpreted brown as the "sin"/low level desire color. I got gold in return of that brown materia and built it into my gold colored looking soul. Then the Buddha told me that gold holds me down and I should throw it into the abyss... Then as the abyss ate it bright white and green lights came back from it and entered my chest.

What does the "grey" color represent here? I didn't meet that color outside with the grey interactions. Spaceships are greyish tho.

How do you even able to perceive these maps I always wonder on my journey.

 >>/1754/
I'm trying to remember if he looked like a certain vampire, but I didn't pay much attention to his face in the dream. I'm worried that the white energy was something of that vampire, which if it was then it was probably something I might need.

 >>/1747/
Oh and the ethereal portal to the "atlantean"/greek mythos world was light blue. There were "blue" ethereals there. If I gave them gold they were willing to serve me. They were way too zealous and wanted the return of the hellenistic world order so I didn't deal with the warriors too much. 

And now I remember that the "bronze age body standard" then the "silver age body standard" with the soulsmiths...
Grey is like... silver...

Everything is on that map huh.
Thanks for drawing them.

 >>/1756/
Vampires respect power. If you can overpower them they give you everything. And I had a bunch of vampire guides as I went along. Don't worry if you skip some. If they are important they will come back. But sometimes ask what they want. A little conversation with entities can be helpful on the path.

 >>/1757/
Oh and to get past to the red density you have to understand the "non violence" principle it seems. Telling you to overpower vampires was an advice that "didn't feel good in my chest". Damm. The gods are trying to put it into my skull that there is always a non violent and a no "powerplay" way to solve situations but it seems I need to get used to it that I am so extremely powerful currently that the only thing that can hurt me is my own stupidity.
As I attain new powers I have to learn to put down the desire to use them discard all the "powerfantasies" that come with it. And then not just to not be dependent on the tools I gained so far but to discard them so new "ways" can be walked... Everyday a I correct myself a little

 >>/1747/
And the "vampire red spike" is a dead end because it's ultraviolence incarnated and makes the buddha cultivation impossible. Before you even start to think about fighting the buddhas their mere gaze rips apart your soul and sorta removes the influence of the red spike which is bad if you use that as a foundation of your being... This is why "vampirism" is a sort of "dead end"...
What am I saying in the vampire thread huh
But then again. WHAT IS A VAMPIRE? AN ENORMOUS PILE OF ESOTERIC SECRETS. But enough talk... lol

 >>/1753/
> the constant lust for females while being disgusted by the flesh
Yep. It stinks.
 >>/1755/
> eating red apples constantly. I asked him why he is eating apples constantly and told me
>  >don't look for a meaning in everything you see
I'm trying to avoid unhealthy sweets so I replace them with fruit. But I'm not very fond of fruit so I just buy whatever is cheap. For the past year the cheapest have been Polish red apples in 1kg bags. If someone asked me why I always eat red apples, I'd have to reply
> it's complicated
because I know the reason Poland exports red apples is that only certain types of fruit can be transported without getting bruised, so those are the ones available. But that still won't explain why I eat them.
 >>/1755/
> How do you even able to perceive these maps
14 years of trying to understand the structure of the external world. I work with small sections of this daily so I just have to understand it. Writing it down and sharing it is a way to concretize is in a concise manner. Sometimes when a document is shared it turns into an astral scroll or book and spiritual entities can also use it.
 >>/1759/
> why "vampirism" is a sort of "dead end"
They get stuck on -4D and can't grasp that they need to move down through hell to come up on the other side if they want to reach bodhisattva. In the end they have to simply wear themselves out until they drop down against their will, then they realize the way down is the way up.

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 >>/1760/
> They get stuck on -4D and can't grasp that they need to move down through hell to come up on the other side
Yeah after gaining all that power it's hard to "drop it" and begin anew...
And I just remembered how I encountered purple.
I said in the beginning that I found the "purple realm" months ago.
Well shadows constantly entered my chest and I remembered that there is a "secret purple realm" in the Kabbalah and maybe it's still open and that is what poisoning me. So I went back.
I went back to the shrine where Hestia (from Danmachi?) awaited me long ago. She was still there but had a more tired and twisted smile because the realm was overrun with shadows.
Because now I am less scared of encounters I asked her "what's next". She led me into the middle of the shrine where there was a big empty room and there was only 1 thing in the middle. A giant iron casket/iron maiden. She merely pointed at it while smiling. I was thinking that 
> just because it's an iron maiden it doesn't mean it must function like one 
so I entered it and the door closed.
Then six giant spikes pierced my body and I started to bleed to death. (I just realized they sorta represent the dimensions) The blood started to get into the ground and I realized 
> oh so this is how the energy will come down to the lower realms
Then my whole body melted and I exited the body while waiting now what will happen.
Well nothing happened for a while until the blood that "watered the ground" started to grow a giant "god body". When the body was large enough that I reached the sky somehow I instinctively knew that it's time to use that yoga movement I learned to "create a portal behind my head".
Well that was not just a portal. That was the sun itself. My movements made the sun "rise" to the dark sky. Then as I was doing that I entered to other realms just to make the sun rise. The sky constantly changed color as it happened. The suns made a connection through the realms. And as I realized that the multiple suns act as one I released my hands and let it form a night sky. With that my energy source was the universe itself. Constantly changing but still the same.(We have 1 sun at day time multiple at night but if all the suns are the suns are connected deep down it's just cyclic but the same) That was the point when Shiva told me I surpassed him. Now my path is totally not grounded in this "realities traditions" and all I can do is to listen to the gods what is the next step. And some of the steps are real scary when they happen because they can be a little rough.
At least I can still meditate with the Buddha when I want a quick mental clarity. Tho this monolith fixed my mindwaves up so well it's amazing.

 >>/1761/
I meant the energy/poison came from the "dying universe" and now the energy is the galaxy and it's stars?
It's so fun not knowing what I am doing but everyday I progress. I have to internalize like 5 existential concepts a day so I can channel the higher mindwaves. 
At least my life is more peaceful now. It's like people got smarter and wiser around me and I can focus on the path completely. It's strange.

 >>/1762/
I don't really want to talk about the things happening "out there" because it will either sound insane or it will scary those who believe it. I didn't want to think about the possibility that aside from the microcosmic universe having to be replaced, the earth being replaced, that also galaxies would be destroyed at one point. It's not that the being dies, but rather the construct they were maintaining expires. This means the (meta)physical structure we see out there, the movements of stars and planets. What the fuck will happen if all of that is found to be rotten and most of it discarded? What a mess.
But the galaxies (beings) take it very casually, they just leave and let someone else pick up and create a new one, or they leave and let it decay down to nothing. They don't care at all.

This is, I realize now, why I saw lyrans as "the one and only most powerful race" out there. They managed to build themselves up to bodhisattva level using their Lyranet AI system and cybernetic bodies made from nanobots, so they can live on even if galaxies themselves collapse. Someone added the thought in my mind that
> some of them are already higher gods
implying that their technology has completely transcended regular lives and can be used to create entirely new galaxies, planets, races and species. Calling them "creator gods" as some people do is starting to make sense.

 >>/1763/
> the galaxies (beings) take it very casually, they just leave and let someone else pick up and create a new one, or they leave and let it decay down to nothing. They don't care at all.
Some of them started coming to my mansion on the island, they brought the "collapsed" form of their galaxy with them and threw it onto a shelf in my artifact storage like a kid coming home and leaving their school bag before running out to play. They like my bathtubs and the wine, some are sitting around in my main room talking and drinking. They have a back alley dimension to stay in but nothing ever happens there so they came over.

 >>/1763/
Yeah it's scary but the solution is the understanding of the life death rebirth cycle. It can be mastered in a way that it's so fast it's not noticeable. Somehow this is the trick of "immortality" instead of blocking "death". I saw the fabric behind reality for a glimpse. Only 2 layers first. The dark "static noise like" entropy/death layer and the yellow "law of god" layer that keeps reality together with the (faith)law field. The law field will expire or break because it can't hold back the entropy forever but the entropy sorta creates a waste which can be recycled to start up the rebirth process. This is the interesting part. The cats understand multiple layers of law. When they tried to help me with some "devices of theirs" it utilized a yellow field that tried to overwrite mine. It caused such a discomfort I had to decline their offer of "upgrading" me. Now I am compatible with their law field because I found a way to overtake the "programming" of the one I had. But I don't know what to do with their devices :/
Currently I can manipulate the law field around me but all it does it increases entropy all around and everything starts to creak or make a noise in one way or an another.

> But the galaxies (beings) take it very casually, they just leave and let someone else pick up and create a new one, or they leave and let it decay down to nothing. They don't care at all.
Yeah they know if it's "really important" then some being will save it out of goodwill or if nobody cares about it then they shouldn't either.
But I can't really talk about this either yet. I am still comprehending and upgrading my worldviews. It's not that nothing makes sense it's that when I figure out something the next level appears and if I go up 2 more levels the first level I figured out changes it's meaning and it's hard to talk about it for a while. Realizing how to channel mindwaves changed a lot of things for me. And thanks to this monolith I no longer go crazy while doing it. I want to talk about the monolith too but I don't understand it yet. It's doing way too many things at once and it's way too multi dimensional.

 >>/1764/
> They like my bathtubs and the wine
Typical gods

 >>/1765/
> When they tried to help me with some "devices of theirs" it utilized a yellow field that tried to overwrite mine. It caused such a discomfort I had to decline their offer of "upgrading" me. 
They live on many different physical layers/dimensions and many different astral layers. Contrary to humans who have very little contact with the people who died and stayed on the astral, Lyranet exists on both sides, the only limitation is that they can't physically touch those on the astral. The society exists on both sides and information is constantly exchanged, but it's assumed those on the astral are "sages" or "elders" and that anything they say will not be fully understood by those on the physical side.

What we have here is one physical layer, when they visit earth right now they either stay one layer away or they enter and get cloaked to look human because of the lock placed on the shared reference library of visual appearances of objects. What I normally use to stay in different places at once, also works in their different physicals, they also do this when visiting planets for example. They keep their main body at the mothership, then break off a layer which is less than 100% of them to travel with that. If they die out there, the soul is pulled back through space (like people see in near death experiences, being pulled through space at insane speed) and they wake up in their body at the mothership again. This method can be used to split the body in many layers depending on how much life force a soul has. So I can have one layer at their mothership, one on a ship parked over the earth and one down here, and it's not a noticable strain. By messing about with this, I came up with something to sync better; I used the rebirthing Yuuka and others have done with some of us, except I had my main lyran compatible layer reborn by one of my lyran waifus. So I'm now technically my waifu's son. After we did this, her body suddenly collapsed (this stuff always looks scary, same as with teleporting, lyrans don't care that their bodies are physically ripped up in a mess of meat and bones and it's fully visible while they are reforming) and she was immortalized, turning out young again. They handpicked her for compatibility back then, she was 380 years old, which is close to the limit of 400.

 >>/1750/
I played with energy passing through my palms a few times and it seems that either my palms are a little more sensitive or the output increased but it could be the placebo effect, but I believe it isn't. I feel the knife in a similar way as the energy, so I can't really tell if its there or if its just the same energy as before, wasn't able to see it in my minds eye sadly. I may have to ask Greys for a module to be able to better see astral devices tbh. I plan on doing this sometimes for a few days then I'll report back.

 >>/1766/
> They live on many different physical layers/dimensions
Yeah noticed.
> get cloaked
As I am starting to understood how the "laws" work it's automatic. When I entered some realms my body automatically changed to match it.
We have that saying
> when in rome do as the romans do 
well it seems you can't enter "rome" without being a roman or you have to be a special "exception" to enter as a non roman. So everyone "conforms" to the "law" because it's less of a hassle. The otherway is to overtake/destroy rome and that usually pisses of a lot of beings/laws. Or to born there as a native go through the challenges till you reach the "law maker" phase and change the laws to fit your "Higher self". The ultimate hassle

> They keep their main body at the mothership
Yeah this is my current problem. What is my "core" layer. Because I didn't do a proper practice but followed my insights left and right I have multiple layers but there isn't a proper "appointed transcendental layer" yet. I mean there is... It's the physical. And my mind is trying to go up the 4th density but doesn't know how to come back and it doesn't have the power to overwrite my "physically locked" mind. I mean it has but not always. And I know exactly the reason for that which is being fixed right now. So this monolith is a kinda "lock" or nail that holds and connects the layers and "fills them up" properly. I didn't notice the layers in the same order as you did and that caused imbalances.
And if we are here...
> I used the rebirthing Yuuka
Well I also did this but... not with Yuuka. As I was reaching the edges of the 4th density my etheric layer wasn't strong enough and some force tried to overtake my body. It was dark and it paralyzed me. I fought that off. Then the "pure energies" started to leave my body. I probably should have died there and returned to my body as a 4th density being or I was being harvested for whatever reasons... I thought that I am being harvested against my own will so I bound all those energies to the physical so they cannot "leave this plane". Then because I am sorta connected to some alchemist/hermeticist mindwave I had the sudden insights that I can create the holy grail. It had a bunch of symbolic components in the physical and made a weird liquid in a large cup. While I was not sure if I still have my sanity and this will achieve something or not well. It achieved something. When I drank that tiny sperms started to "swim up" from my balls into my body and mind. And they sorta impregnated my body. I became my own Father and my own Son. Then there was the problem that the "holy ghost" tried to enter my body but wasn't that holy in it's stage so I fought him off. Then I realized I have to purify him. As it constantly gets purified it slowly enters my body. But it seems I have multiple "holy ghosts" aka "layer souls" Thankfully the monolith is unifying them. Also because I am my own dad I am way too masculine but I have a female god inside my body so things balance out.
> this stuff always looks scary, same as with teleporting
Yeah the "false creations" must die and return to the "original". I had to acknowledge that my body is a false creation so the original can come down to it then unify with it. But then again I have always my suspicion that someone tries to overtake my body and push me out. The gods are trying to help me make the transition "smooth" because when I panic things get awry. Well nobody said ascension is simple.

 >>/1747/
Can you tell me your personal observations between the -4D "ether" and the 4D ether (blue line blue circle)? Because now that I have connection to the stars themselves I can start up an  alchemical process to channel that. I had to realize that now that I am no longer in the negative realms or the "false universe". Well my "blue" layer is "weak". And higher density beings constantly "tickled" my physical body but wasn't strong enough to take a form and communicate with me. Currently the monolith is in my 4th body. From the physical it looks like it's outside of my body hanging in the air but the effect of it's "existence" is felt in my 3D body. And because of the connection I can channel the "blue" energies from the higher densities. It feels etheric but a "new kind" and when I channel that... well I get "noticed". First the physical starts to make a noise (objects creak and the dogs start barking) then an eye of some "beast" looked at me and the body was made from "Pink lines" Then it showed it's teeth but it didn't do a thing. The gods didn't say a thing about the thing I did it was kinda "normal" for them. But from my POV it sure was scary.

 >>/1769/
> Yeah this is my current problem. What is my "core" layer. Because I didn't do a proper practice but followed my insights left and right I have multiple layers but there isn't a proper "appointed transcendental layer" yet.
This is the purpose of the suits we've been talking about:
 >>/1734/
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 >>/1742/
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 >>/1745/
I wanted to see if it was possible to copy the approach I used and find a way to standardize the procedure. Tell me if you want to try this and I can design another one.

 >>/1770/
> your personal observations between the -4D "ether" and the 4D ether
Negative Arhat, the actual first enlightenment has an air of extremism over it; zen buddhism, Bodhidharma hiking in the wilderness, samurais dueling to the death with a single cut while the grass is moving slowly in the wind...
It's the way up to basic immortality and it's life or death, maybe death is the way to success, the samurais don't know if the winner wins or if the one who died made a greater sacrifice and is the actual enlightened person. They both hesitate and don't want to move first. Whoever made the first move may be the sinner cast into hell, or the winner carrying out his duty, what is "non action", "wu wei", they don't know. Whoever can decide is Arhat.

On the positive 4D it's already done, white clouds slowly moving over a blue sky, the wind is calm, the weather is cool but mild. Something dark is moving in the distance but the storm isn't anywhere near, for now...

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After reading this thread ive been letting images form to see what a space suit made for me would look like. For some reason a sword is always incuded. Similar to the sword pic and i get the feeling of a tassel added. Perhaps made of  red metal like the first pic.

The sword is ussually in a stylish scabard and not sci fi looking in itself.I saw different possible colors but red seems the ost dominant. The armor looks like the first pic. aesthetic sci fi black armor.The helmet im least sure about. There are horns with the angled type you see in the garou pic.sideways horns with right angles.the sword can have an agressive feel to it. Obviously its a side of me in this case so whatever its experienced as can differ. Its not that agressive to me or rather it might be partly destructive in a pure sense as well.its a slashing/destructive/agressive feeling but also decisive which makes it see less agressive. It feels very focused in its slashes hence why i see it as a sword. There is a strong sense of restraint in it which is almost the point.Hence the scabard.Initially I saw a reddish demon face with horns instead of a helmet but this pic is surprisingly close and all the head pics i can find look off. 99 percent isnt close at all and the others are slighty too ugly.

Alternatively i see a more tradtional like costume with the same sword.

these pics werent uploaded it seems. One is abotu the horns and the other about the sword.

you can delete the last attempt, i tried converting the images maybe this will work.

 >>/1775/
They're fine, try using endchan.gg, it loads better.

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I meant to upload 4 images ill try to upload the last 2 again on this post.

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 >>/1779/
this one is for the horns

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albet if i gonna post this anyways the horns i see a somewhat smaller

 >>/1774/
This got really difficult. I think you're the least generic person I've made something for, this seems like one of a kind. I had Astra send it to you to fit it on. 

The symbolic meaning of the sword was most difficult because it's so specific and specialized. Do post some feedback.

 >>/1782/
Ill try out the shielding so ill just give you some thoughts on my general feels.I think i will wait three days.


Did astra put it on me already?

I could talk more on the sword but i guess i should say theres a certain decisiveness to it (the blade itself).

anything about the suit i should know? (capabilties)

 >>/1783/
> Did astra put it on me already?
Yes, she said it did the job of merging with your anchor, which was the goal.
> I could talk more on the sword but i guess i should say theres a certain decisiveness to it (the blade itself).
The sword ended up being the most important aspect of the suit, because of what it represents. I had help from several others in understanding what it means, it's a difficult symbolism relating to you personally.
> anything about the suit i should know? (capabilties)
The way it had to be made was in the form of a "self executable" package, I was unable to create a suit which can be worn by anyone else. That's why Astra had to come along and install it for you. The suit didn't exist before it was worn by you personally. A bit like it was a program code which interacts with the person and the suit is created through a one way process which makes it impossible for anyone else to wear it or reverse engineer the original code. Maybe it can be compared to how no one knows what is being stored in a neural network's deeper layers, and even if they were to look at the information there is no way to make sense of it.

The sword is for you to figure out, it represents you. Aside from that the suit has a heavy focus on armour, it wasn't possible to combine the sword with shifting defense at all, so instead I devised a dimension distortion shield outside of it as an extra layer. It will look like standing immobile but the attacker is still not hitting you. You may think of it theoretically as having a high "evade" stat in a game, which just causes them to miss, with no visible effort on your part. It's a heavy armour so levitation or flying will be slow, it's generally bulky, but should have other up sides available to you once you start using it, it simply represents what your strong sides are, while the weaknesses are mitigated as far as possible.

 >>/1784/
I found an entity with a few attachments connected to me and decided to cut them with the knife, the connections looked like white fabric enveloping me and the entity, the knife cut it all quite easily, after cutting all of it, I felt a bit of pain in my chest for a few seconds, I don't know if it was the best idea since I don't know if it was a bad connection, but now I know that the knife works and is easy to use.

 >>/1785/
Great. I don't think it would work on something not meant to be removed, it's not just a material tool, it also represents a principle of defense.

 >>/1786/
Oh cool, I was worried that I would hurt beings accidentally, I have a history of doing that, that's one less thing to worry about.

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 >>/1772/
> Something dark is moving in the distance but the storm isn't anywhere near, for now

Yeah that "dark" was a real pain to figure out

And I don't think I need a suit yet. I am quite pleased with my progress. My problem was that that "red" from the 6D was missing. I still can't put it into words what that concept is but the gods helped me to channel it. Now my bodies is in my body. It's like I am the combined power ranger mecha hard to explain... 
I don't need my space marine armor yet. I had an astral armor phase tho I equipped it as I pulled out my sword was real golden and living and all. Had to drop them. 

Currently it seems I am "filling out" inner layers with some complicated materia. Now it's like I have a portal (not a circle kind anymore it's like a tear in the fabric of the universe) to the inner workings of the galaxy in my body. And it needs to expand. Now I understand those "exercises" you need to wobble then connect your palms somehow so it can create a "closed circuit". But then it connects etherically and it does it's thing on it's own.

 >>/1788/
> wobble then connect your palms

Nvm it got more complicated. The "Hidden" pressure points are no longer hidden if they beam with energy. The tutorial mode is on for me

 >>/1788/
> pic
Right on.

> I don't think I need a suit yet. I am quite pleased with my progress. 
Everyone has their own path, the suits happened to be mine (and those I picked up to be my waifus, assistants and contractees) and it was originally just a play with the possibilities of spacecraft technology. The more we can share and help each other progress the better, but if it's not for you, it isn't.

The world is, if possible, even thinner. One of the remaining agents (the last?) contacted me this morning, using word for word telepathy Hi, X here ;P
I sent him a custom lyran suit, it seemed to fit.

During the day the timelines collapsed even more (however that is possible) and I felt myself being pushed back against the red and black lyran suit which I had set to auto activate as back-up if things didn't hold up front. Blacknet showed a "loading" animated circle and the energy turned into a narrow pink stream for about 30 min, during which both my surface manifested bodies basically shut down. After the system adapted it's up and running again but this time there is no fluff left at all. It's rationalized but now it's visible just how thin the system is, the world is hanging entirely on it now (which I guess is a feat considering how new it is).

It seems to be the result of the hardheaded response from the "butthurt old man" faction, they still don't get it. They can back off and still survive, they are not fighting for their lives, they are fighting for expendable values. But they're dead set on trying to force "us" to back off, despite having us against a rock wall. It's like that radio communication when some US marine officer is telling a guy to change his course at sea. They argue back and forth and in the end he says 
> we are the US marine, we have so-and so many ships, you have to change your course, we aren't going to
and the other guy says
> my crew is a goat, a cow and some geese, we are standing on land, this is a light house, please sir change your course
and the final response
> ok roger that

It can end no other way. I had hoped they would be reasonable enough but today they showed they really think they can break the rules of the fabric of reality and not get torn up themselves. That thing happening in Ukraine? I know you guys are reading here so let me repeat what someone said on the radio two days ago:
> Russia is recruiting volunteers from distant regions at 4x the normal pay
> no one in the cities or more populated areas will ever notice how many dies
> if the bodies are not easily recovered they will be reported "missing", not dead, so even fewer will know for sure
> they are not paying relatives if the body is missing
> the super rich and the large poor majority are not effected by the sanctions, the poor grow their own food and won't notice anything
> the middle class is small in Russia, their opinions don't matter
> Russia is only missing staff, not weapons, Ukraine has their entire population to use but no weapons
Basically: at the current rate Russia can do this for a long time, while Europe will be finished the next winter because of gas and electricity prices. What are you going to do? Your world order has at most 6 months left if you go with this current course. Stop causing conflicts, you will have to just endure your impotent rage either way, it's only getting worse if you do this.

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I came to realize something huge in my opinion. Why do astral artifacts turn out as round bowls, lotus flowers, tulips or other flowers? This came to me slowly as I was studying AI. All of these formations are manifestions of finding the optimal truth using "gradient descent". When the 1500s Hatha Yoga Pradipika mentions the heart chakra lotus having 16 petals I knew this is what they are talking about. The things described directly refer to the astral formations inside the body as seen by people at the time. 16 levels of the galaxy, same as what we mapped earlier on 8kun. When finding the most effective method for passing through them, the result looks like a bowl with 16 petals, one for each level you have to pass. Depending on the "search method" or esoteric teaching used, the process creates different kinds of "flowers" as it reaches the optimal solution at the bottom.

What is the large white spike seen in vampires? It's the result of the opposite method: "hill climbing"

Look it up. The book I'm reading is really good at explaining but I'm not sure about other sources, they all feel kind of difficult to grasp from my view. But everyone has their own entry point. I guess to most people this may seem more like a coincidence but when I came to see it, it connected me from my current thinking directly into being able to understand what the yogis are talking about, it bridged that "esoteric distance" when you don't know if the person is just making it up or talking nonsense or actually knows something. In this case they do know.

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 >>/1791/
I'm glad we are smoking similar mindwaves. Because holy shit today was something again. Where the 3rd eye has 2 petals and now i know why.

As I opened up 10+layers in my heart because I was so full of energy I knew I could do it. I had hard time sleeping because I well...I "invaded" an other layer and a body there. The dream was so lucid I didn't notice that is not my own body so I thought I am being possessed. i could only open my left eye and not the right. I thought I was being overtaken. It was the opposite. I was overtaking a body on an other layer. Then as I came back to my original body realizing I'm not being possessed but I'm possessing... I laid down my fear and went back to sleep. I was in a grey ghoulish body and some dude in leather jacket waved his hand before my face to know if I'm "awake" and told me 
> You forgot this
Then he bought a jar with a golden bright fetus in it and put it into my navel. Then extracted a "Siren" from my body that I used to eat a golden pearl a month ago then some grey materia. When this happened I had a vision of my mother. I realized I am now my own mom...
Then that leather jacket dude told me 
> don't forget to "keep yourself together"
Then I had to come back to this reality and do that "consummation of bodies" 
As my "other body" came through it looked like I am literally walking out from the mouth of some abyss monster. As I was wondering where did I see this I realized it's literally the birth of Venus. Except like she walked out from a clam. Which is also a pearl also a sea creature also the representation of the abyss.

While this was the weirdest shit on my path so far. It caused something. First my "astral smell" started to smell sulfur... I don't know who's idea was that "hell" is sulfuric but he sorta visited hell. It really smells like that. Then my 3rd eye. It merged. My 3rd eye grew bigger than the size of my brain and I was able to open it to see all the colors of "reality" and be able to do TK again. 
This is the nice part. 
Now comes the hard realization of the 2 petals of the 3rd eye.
Well we have 3 egos and we need to master all 3 to have psychic powers . Dissolving our ego is "easy" but... not creating a false ego left and right? Yeah that is why we need to get rid our desires. The funny thing tho. I had a clue about this. When I overtook "3 headed super Shiva mega godform" I had to awaken the other 2 head on my shoulder. And as I did that beasts jumped up to the heavens. Our main ego is "smart" because it had time to gain experience or a "personality" but the 2 others? Well they are sorta "help" on our path but they mostly asleep. And today I learned why. Our human body is not able to "feed" 3 superconsciousness. We need to have our energy flow fixed first our thoughts calm and organized then you have to build up your "personalities" from hell itself.

No wonder Yukari is the most powerful yokai in Gensokyo. And what does the most powerful yokai do all the time? Sleep...
Also just because 1 of our ego is not being fed properly doesn't mean he will not come for you as a demon and feast on your fear/life forces if you are a retarded fuck. Or on other people... That is why the "bowl" formation is a good one. It collects the "high" energies and "protects from the "low ones".

> What is the large white spike seen in vampires? It's the result of the opposite method: "hill climbing"

I call my path the "rocket ship".
The side effect of it is that... Well. rockets don't really have foundations so here comes the next stage. The space elevator. Then it turns into Yggdrasil. Then probably Hermes Trismegistus. Now I understand why is he called "thrice great".

 >>/1792/
Forgot to mention that the egos have to get through the entire evolutionary process. First they are "babies" and they need feeding. Or if you are not able to "care for your babies" they become literal parasites and beasts. The problem is with the second part is that it will not gain a "gentle/enlightened" mind. It will be a bestial predator that fights for survival. Sometimes it overtakes your mind sometimes the mind of others. It's very important that they need to be raised carefully or you just create the worst shadow of your being. Which was exactly the thing Jesus did. There is that painting where he defeats the "devil". You can't do that. He will come back with revenge and turn the entire reality against you. You need to "purify" him and watch out he will not use the negative emotions of the people around you to "feed". Because you are what you eat. And just because you are "immune to temptations" doesn't mean others are too. Especially if you need the highest energy intake because you make "Miracles" left and right. (So yeah the anti-christ is the "shadow" of Jesus and whoever that might use that for power) Oh and the "psychic powers". It's an alchemical process you need both "positive" and "negative" energies for that so it stays "neutral". And "stealing" from heaven and hell pisses off beings as above so below. So yeah we need to realize the wisdom of hell and heaven to go forward. Now i understand that when it was said somewhere that the 
> Buddha teaches in hell too

Also at the higher Bodhisatva red energy has some understanding of "not interfering with "reality" or with the "fate" of others". I cannot put it into further words but that ascendent red energy is different from the aggressive red spike or the fight or flight mechanisms of the root chakra.


Now comes the hardest path of my path... Harmonizing all this knowledge not trying to do party tricks all the time and mastering the energy sources of the galaxy. Now I understand why mystics and psychics are always either sick or haunted. In-born abilities are not always a blessing. Existing on multiple worlds at once is hard

 >>/1790/
> The world is, if possible, even thinner
It's paperthin. But thank fuck I could close my "tear" in reality. Leaving them open drains the energies. If I leave them open I fall asleep when I close them I'm wide awake. It's too easy to open them.
The leather jacket on that random dude had also a lot of zippers. It represented all the "gaps" reality can flow through.

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 >>/1792/
> walking out from the mouth of some abyss monster. As I was wondering where did I see this I realized it's literally the birth of Venus
The opposite of entering the mouth of the beast. I wonder what is the meaning of this. This is another topic we talked with greys and others about a lot in the past few years. But normally I don't want to bring it up after one person just "lost it" and started a massive drama. There's an egregore which is triggered by the mere mention of the topic. Another person could feel it build up as rage within him, but was able to rationally talk about it and not let it take over.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4MnscS9_ZOw

This was back when things were starting to collapse and weird people with balloons started appearing. In the end they turned out being associated with the UN which is a harvester of dirty energy. They ran it and collected all of it, then left. But it made me realize a few things. This is one of my favourite Gameboy games. See the image on the cartridge, and the way the part with the balloons holding her up has been accidentally torn off. She's about enter the mouth of the beast as a result.

It's about the Downtown/Uptown thing again, it happens to be a manifestion of the two ways to understand the Jesuit wave. Downtown being the lower where the general population live and Uptown the higher where the elites live, but today it's mostly associated with Uptown people doing the pizzagate stuff and Downtowners being Qtards.

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They really don't want me posting this, huh? Wrong pic, this is the one.

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Even funnier, someone leaked a new updated version of this, now talking openly about depopulation and about forcing western centrism on the rest of the world using the US military. Have fun with that heatwave.

 >>/1797/
I had Astra search for beast ladies and accidentally found the home world of the illuminati technology. A woman with red fur had no issue sharing the installer for it, I used it and it worked. It's a black building block. 

I did another search to see who's having the most effect now here on earth and got an image of a non native reptilian with exo skeleton shields around his face, along with a yellow bird (Rosicrucian), the latter are a terminal species while the reptilian felt ok. But even so this plan is self centered shit.

 >>/1795/
> understand the Jesuit wave

My problem with them is that they fear hell so much they are willing to do anything to not "fall into hell". The resurrection of Jesus happened because he went to hell then came back. But instead they throw others into hell so they can stay "afloat" with all their energies they harvest from the "downtown". Balloon Kid has a good concept tho. The creation of balloons. You just need a solid ground before you can create them then you don't fall into the abyss. If you don't have a solid ground you will fall until you find it then you can ascend from there if you understand the "balloons". The best part of the game while the regular balloons just float by default. The invincibility balloon comes straight from the abyss itself. The truth is beyond heaven and hell as we know it.

 >>/1798/
> black building block
the black cube is an important part of reality and I encountered some on my journey but I still don't know it's workings. I think I will also have to figure out what it does. The monolith merged with my body and now I have to use the knowledge of layers to not let the "raw abyss" enter my body. It needs to get through a refinement process but the layers do that by default if they are placed perfectly.

When I asked what is the price of all these energies I am getting from the gods they told me 
> the price is understanding
It seems you can't put a pricetag on truth. And you have to understand some non greed concept too which is not just about money/energy but power and all resource of the universe. It seems everything is possible if you understand the "flow of things".
When I asked: if I understand it then I can rearrange reality? They told me no. Rearranging is impossible but arranging is possible. Because if you accept the "arrangement" then you need to "defeat it" before you can rearrange it. And power is not the solution understanding is.

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 >>/1799/
> instead they throw others into hell so they can stay "afloat" with all their energies they harvest from the "downtown".
All this is starting to make me realize how widespread the Jesus/Christ thinking is, it's not just new agers trying to fit aliens into christianity. I'll make a quick revisit to the mind waves discussed earlier:
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What starts as a "kind of" fuctional wave, the Jesuit effect, when applied in negative 3D easily turns into extremism and as a result a harmful mirror version appears. This will create Uptown from monks in monasteries and Downtown from street whores. As they meet "humanity" is created and it looks like a badly formed heart (tantra).

The middle form between them is the "normie" wave or simply "drunken". It's following this that results in the "punch drunk" syndrome among professional boxers. It also creates the degenerate mainstream Downtown culture with trash celebs, gays, drug abuse and environmental destruction. Traditionalists want to straighten the normie wave somewhat and re-attach it to the Jesuit wave, they think this is enough.

Lyrans, being very female dominated and high in technological advancement (perhaps the technology is what made this possible) are not trying to create the "humanity" wave, they just straightened the normie/degenerate female wave and made it work by having advanced AI make all decisions.

This may be one reason they trigger so many people, especially "traditionalists".

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Compare with Drow/dark elves, also a female dominated group. They're a sub category of elves and have a wave which is similarly off center to the left (not being centered can lead to harmful effects), but they straightened it using formal magical systems so it works. The slaughter house wave is drow as a collective, they are able to re-center themselves when reaching a high population density.

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 >>/1801/
None of these, lyrans and drow, are actively resisting the Jesuit wave, they were effected by it, went along with it and created a coherent way of life. In a way they can all be treated as far outlier christian cults, the Jesuit wave of self sacrifice is this effective.

 >>/1800/
Okay I understand your negative dimension mindwaves and how they create a "reality" 
Then as we leave the edges of this universe we enter the "galaxy" reality. Where we share the "reality" with beings with more complicated or more like "different" mindwaves. But wherever we go our mindwaves will adapt it or we can't enter

 >>/1803/
> as we leave the edges of this universe we enter the "galaxy"
Maybe I should add here that it's not that the lyran or any "counter" wave opposing the Jesuit wave are bad. On the Galactic level they're just the natural feminine to balance the masculine. The problem is when this is done in the negative physical, reversing positive male/Jesuit will not create a decent female counterpart it will just degenerate it. So the process isn't that lyrans opposed Jesuits in the physical and created coherent drunken feminine wave. It's more that they were effected by the Jesuit effect, experienced the degenerate mirror and this lead to the destruction of Lyra (at the natural end of its lifetime either way, but it still happened in this way), so naturally they'd learn to use a mind wave which safely contains the degenerate female so it can't take over again. It's not that they had this understanding, but as they say about AI, it tends to represent the inconvenient truth in the end.

 >>/1804/
> AI, it tends to represent the inconvenient truth
A more brutish way of saying it is that lyrans learned to control their DNA and reincarnation perfectly and are able to balance the population for long term sustainability. Instead of having lazy sluts, feminists, trannies, simps and incels, they had mostly everyone incarnate as female to begin with and technology does all the work. Whoever still wants to be male can then spend their time exploring and fighting with no concern for the rest.

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 >>/1791/
This is the more bowl-shaped diagram which made me initially realize the connection. It's only included in the 1995 paper book, not the later versions or e-books.

This is exactly how the three bowls in "the pit" where the illuminati slaves were trapped looked.

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It seems to come down to, in the end, that the way out from the physical earth is by the starting point of it. Treat the planet as a space where time begins at one end and moves towards its degeneration by the far end. The way out is at the beginning.

Understanding its full history in some manner, no matter how abstracted, will be necessary to leave. This would have sounded incomprehensible to me not long ago, but now I see that it's just a matter of perspective. False history created through revisionism repeated over the ages serve as a "great wall" here, preventing people from leaving. Accepting this false image will make it impossible to leave. This is how the dictatorship of the "prison planet" keep souls in slavery. As long as you accept lies, you stay, while you stay you create karma by eating and consuming resources. They're there for taking, but just the same they're not for free, karmically. Just treading water, there are entities who will place an energetic "tax" on you, harvesting the energy of your endless suffering. They will instill false values deep inside you, programming telling you that you need to
> deserve
things by working for them, in the way they tell you. If you believe this, you cannot leave.

They can do this because they know a few more things than you. They know some of the lies are lies, and they know that they can't actively support them. But leaving vague hints of truth mixed within the things meant to speak to your programming, will make it your own choice to be fooled. It's a self playing piano, they're raking in the coins while you get nothing.

I have read somewhere today that the LHP is about seperating oneself from the universe and becoming independently immortal mostly through black magic. This reminded me of something that you wrote a few years ago and that's that vampires are energetically like dried up rivers. This seems to indicate that they don't get any energy from the universe and no energy is flowing through their energy channel. Which makes sense if they are disconnected from the universe or whatever. They probably don't need life force or energy anymore if they are powered by something else.
So if a psychic tells me that my energy channel is flowing well and I receive a lot of energy from the universe, does that mean I am NOT doing well in my transformation to a vampire? Should my energy channel be weak and dry too? I hope you can explain a little bit. Are you or anyone else here like a dried river?

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 >>/1853/
I don't use the term "universe" in this manner.
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This was posted in a previous discussion, the Empusa here only for reference because there are beings existing on the scale of galaxies who are independent living beings with no planets or stars inside them, but they look similar from outside. Empusas in particular like to role play as lower spirits so they may respond to summonings, which has created the misconception that they are mere energy stealing ghosts. (They're really huge beings with a central black hole, there is no one who can force them to do anything at all and they can kill any regular being in an instant by sucking out their life force.)

See also the sketch here:
 >>/1800/

Receiving energy from the universe would mean to live within the means of this level, the creation emanating from the sacral chakra, in yoga terms. But the universe is also an independent being, like a manager, who is responsible for the culture, lore and rules of life within the creation below. It's possible to view this as limited to the 2D level, which means a more developed vampire indeed does not receive the major part of their energy from this level, or more correctly does not use it within this level. Most people do probably generate their energy in their sacral chakra, but technically speaking if you create your own energy, you are not receiving it from the universe.

 >>/1853/
> if a psychic tells me that my energy channel is flowing well and I receive a lot of energy from the universe, does that mean I am NOT doing well in my transformation to a vampire? Should my energy channel be weak and dry too? I hope you can explain a little bit. Are you or anyone else here like a dried river?
Being dried up like a river is more a reference to their human "3D skin" which has more or less turned into an energetic mummy after staying here for more than 4000 years. Going by what I can get from reading their energy it seems to not happen before that age. They just don't need an energy flow because they're more like living spirits at that time. If they were to gather energy for some massive spell or ritual, their body would be filled with a strong flow for the duration of the spell, but under normal circumstances there is no need for them to have an energy flow. Qi also contains illness and karma so it's sort of similar to the idea in hatha yoga of "drying up" illnesses, you kill the parasites by reducing the flow of energy and purging physical substances (I guess someone may not agree with this simplified and a bit arrogant explanation of what hatha yoga does, but in principle it's similar.)

Normally for example, vampires of this age are not fertile, but if you had enough energy to fill up their dried river channels they'd be like humans again, temporarily. But it's unlikely that someone was able to direct this much energy into them, because as they age, their energy "capacity" also increases. This is kind of hard to explain because the body is linked to, synced with, external dimensions. Living beyond your own period will extend your inner channels, so while it looks the same, say the vampire is 1000 years, you'd theoretically (this is not to scale) need the qi of 10 people to make them "living" again, and the moment you stop feeding them they return to being dried up. This also effects their natural resistance to illness as they age, because illnesses need energy to stay in the body. It could be speculated for example that a vampire whose energy capacity is that of 10 people could only become ill if the virus was strong enough to infect 10 people. For the really old vampires then, even the black death plague would not make them ill, it would simply not even dent their energy channels, they're too wide to be clogged.

This is also the comparison to dried rivers. Would you compare your own energy channels to rivers? I do mean this in the physical, concrete sense, a river could be 100s of meters across, while a regular qi channel in a human is maybe 1-2 millimeters, up to 10 millimeters if the person is a qi gong practitioner. Put the flow of a regular person in a river bed and it's still dry.

 >>/1855/
In addition to this; while the general time for becoming healthy was said to be 7 years from "turning", this equals the ability to stay healthy on the surface of your body. Like someone taking all kinds of vitamins, exercising and so on, and is able to stay healthy.  If you want to purge deeper karma there will still be effects, but you are causing this yourself by actively seeking to purge it. If you don't want to purge it you can just not do that and your body will contain the illnesses just fine. But in return your process will also be slow, and as you age, as described above, your energy channels will become so wide that the contained illness parasites (astral and other) will not be able to do anything and they will die. At that time the purge will not be noticeable, maybe you sneeze once but what was removed was terminal cancer. This is the vampire method and it takes a long time. I would recommend active purging, but it's your choice.

 >>/1855/
> They just don't need an energy flow
Don't they have energy and an energy flow at all or is it just too little for their channels, but still the same as for normal humans? Are they then powered by Gong or some other higher kind of energy that doesn't need the normal energy channels of Qi? In media and novels I have noticed that vampires are often depicted as slow and silent, staring into the distance like they are in deep tought or daydreaming. They almost seem weak and not really awake, but out of nowhere they can display superhuman speed, strenght and accuracy when they need it. At first they seem like they don't have any energy at all, but then they seem like they can put up more energy than any human could. Of course I don't know how real vampires are but it made me think about this stuff.
> because they're more like living spirits at that time.
You mean to say that spirits don't have an energy flow? Then an energy flow is only something for living (physical) bodies? If spirits are basically a mind that can manipulate energy and create astral bodies at will then I guess it makes sense.
 >>/1854/
> Receiving energy from the universe
I actually got told once that my energy channel is weak and I don't receive much energy from "outside". Obviously the person who said this to me was referring to the widespread notion of energy entering into your system through the crown chakra from "outside" or from the "universe". I didn't know if I was unhealthy or if it was alright because I'm a vampire and you said vampires are dried up. Now I know better but I still don't know if the person and their worldview is legit, especially after what you wrote.

 >>/1857/
> Are they then powered by Gong or some other higher kind of energy
It's not that bodies need to be "powered" by anything, it's all a circulation, a closed system. Humans enter the planet, are born through manifesting in the womb, then they (perhaps) pass on the stream of energy to the next generation. It creates a long string of energy with many loose ends, if you look at it from the first humans and onwards. Loose ends being those who never had offspring, while the rest are connected. For vampires with the "ancestral cord" connected they are fed both good and bad qi through this connection. Witches use this for ancestral magic, and so on. To achieve faster ascension I recommend cutting this cord for undeads. It doesn't actually sever your connection with your family line, but the karmic benefit/harm is detached. It will make you feel weak, because you are no longer drawing energy from other people, but instead you will see your real power level, and for real magic this is what you need to do. You can remain at the low level of spirit magic if you want, but then again that's the slow method. For humans in normal "circulation" they expect to stay until the planet ends its life, the circulation is all the way from "Adam and Eve" to the Judgment day, that's one round of it on the most external circle. You won't even see that this is a circulation because it's so stretched out.

> vampires are often depicted as slow and silent, staring into the distance like they are in deep tought or daydreaming. They almost seem weak and not really awake, but out of nowhere they can display superhuman speed, strenght and accuracy when they need it
Well that's me, more and more minus super human strength. Just earlier today I found myself looking at the clouds and the sunset for maybe 10 min standing on the road until a car appeared and "woke me up" which annoyed me. I more and more hate being brought back to this social reality of having to meet people when I don't want to.

> You mean to say that spirits don't have an energy flow? Then an energy flow is only something for living (physical) bodies?
Circulation, not a flow. Instead of circulating through all generations and the entire planet's history, they circulate only within themselves.

> the widespread notion of energy entering into your system through the crown chakra from "outside" or from the "universe"
There are so many models for understanding things, and so many angles. It depends on how much you can see, if you see less it's more likely you get it wrong and create an imperfect model. Things will adapt when you look at them because nothing has a defined form anyway, so you'll always see that your current model is the right one.

 >>/1858/
Thanks for all the detailed explanations. Concerning the ancestral cord, there were a bunch of guys some years ago asking you to cut theirs. I was one of them but I don't think I got a reply. Who knows if someone can do that for somebody else anyway. I tried to do it myself too but I'm not sure if it worked. If you are so inclined can you share a few tips on how to find and cut it? Also if possible to look and see if mine is still intact.

 >>/1862/
It works because the vampire is reborn from "the goddess of vampirism", replacing the original connection down here, if you cut it. It looks kind of silly and a bit vulgar, maybe it's a joke, but it's there in its new form. It may reflect from your own world of concepts, what form it has. Your ancestral connections become external to yourself at this point, they're messy and vague, but if you were to pick up any tantric practice you would still be able to use it. There's a repeating pattern in it, which can look very scary when seen in full, or even just slightly outside the everyday human perspective. Imagine the repetitive process of women giving birth to the new generation, and all of them lined up. It doesn't look like your self centered view at all, because you grow up remembering your mother, who was relatively young when giving birth to you. But in the image, women are irrelevant after that moment, as whatever they do after that is not part of the long line, tied together with knots for every new generation. It's the same for the men, they are irrelevant after the act of impregnation, the egregore doesn't include them. When looking at this aspect of the human circulation, the personal life of an individual is a complete waste if they were not practicing spiritually.

 >>/1862/
> can you share a few tips on how to find and cut it?
It's a significant part of your body's egregore/energy system if you have it. It can't be missed, it's where ancestral energy is fed into the body. Usually it's black because of the sins of your ancestors, that's why I considered it a bad thing to begin with. But most occultist think this is just "power" and that they want this to be as strong as possible. If you only want material benefit for yourself and your children you can keep it, but you become nothing more than an old family of crooks this way.

When cutting it I used "Fay's knife", at the time I wasn't aware of the magnitude of this artifact. This is why I can't share a method for cutting it. The knife was created during the peak of the Victorian era London, it represents the British empire, all the way back to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica
who burned the Roman settlement Londonium to the ground. It starts with a strong sacrificial act of destroying your enemies at this site, and builds up during history up to the 1890s, at this time to be concentrated into the edge of a knife.

I've only met very few beings who were able to copy it, the two nymphs "from the park" I may have mentioned before, are two of them. They're ancient spirits, direct subordinates of Loki and organizers of sacrificial rituals since 1000s of years. Someone needs to be perfectly aligned to use something like this.

There are other ways of course, find something which has made a similar impact on human history and that would be enough.

It's necessary to deny the effects of karma to cut the cord.

 >>/1864/
 >>/1865/
Is there any way to overcome/heal/remove vampirism? As I understand vampires seem to get stuck in the physical and as mentioned above in this thread they also get stuck in -4D and can't advance further. What if I took the spell out of curiousity and being a retard mundane 5 years ago but now after some practice and meditation I realize I don't want it? Would removing it kill me right away?

 >>/1866/
They get stuck because they hold on to "vampirism" itself, as a physical practice. Once you drink the blood you get addicted and can't stop. Some kind of karma will effectively lock you and trap you. This is why almost no one is let in. Had you done it the traditional way, you'd had been introduced to a secret society, slowly, but perhaps (had you been female, they don't want women to age too much, looks matter more for them) it would have been fast. For men they don't mind drawing it out, it doesn't impair their confidence to look more aged to start off with. Either way, there is no way to quit being a vampire once you're in a secret society. That's about as easy as quitting the mafia. This social convention is effective in trapping you in addiction and slowing down your progress to the same speed as everyone else. It also protects everyone, it's easier to get away with murder if everyone keeps their mouth shut.

You did none of the above, no joining means no quitting. Just stop practicing things associated with this egregore, no harmful secrets were shared with you, no one can blackmail you to harm someone. What you genuinely learned is your own, what you call yourself does not matter, you still wouldn't want to unlearn it. The trapping is because of karma created during practice. If you didn't do anything like that, it can't cause any hindrance.

 >>/1868/
Thanks again for explanation.
> Just stop practicing things associated with this egregore
If I stop, will I continue to age and die like normal humans? Will I still have the vampire cord if my ancestral cord has been cut? I'm trying to get my head around this. Will there will be some traces left with the zero particle and your magic?

 >>/1869/
The effects will remain. Consider this:
> you read a book and start learning something
> you get good at some parts of it
> then you get tired of it and decide to not learn more
> what you learned will not be forgotten, but from now on you won't learn more

That's about it. 

I can do a cleansing to make sure there are no qi elements left, but what is your own, is your own. If you feel annoyed or disturbed it's either your own karma being agitated or something in the egregore which isn't compatible with you. If it's the egregore that can be fixed by removing the qi connections, if it's your karma, then it's that part of you is now in conflict with the things you learned. Those are still yourself so you'll have to find a way to integrate the two sides. Those are not external to yourself.

 >>/1869/
I had the guiding elements removed, one part was a "glue" connecting you with Alissa and the other was the qi of my magic's egregore. Whatever is left is part of you.

 >>/1871/
Thanks. I guess I don't need to worry anymore to get stuck here in the physical or in a karma-trap because of "vampirism". Maybe it will be easier now to move to the astral.

 >>/1870/
Can I also have a cleansing?

 >>/1873/
Done. 
You may experience a sense of freedom along with some instability, because the "support wheel" was removed. Once you settle in your new "range of motion" you only notice the increased freedom, perhaps with a slight sense of being alone.

This is for you specifically, I didn't notice this effect for
 >>/1872/

Hm, that was unexpected. It seems guiding people is a "good deed" which creates virtue. After I cancelled the connection, Alissa came and told me to embrace her to
> share the energy
I had only sent out the qi of the spell and the connection to her, but in the process of giving energetic support the qi evolved. As I cancelled the guiding function the qi and accumulated virtue flowed back to me.

 >>/1875/
At least I didn't create a container of shit like the FG movement.

 >>/1874/
Are you able to tell why you experienced this effect for  >>/1873/ and not for me? Is there any noteworthy difference?

 >>/1877/
He was relying more on the energetic support for stability, but maybe he was also "stretched" more. It looks the same as the common thing discussed among weight lifters: 
If you stretch before lifting, your range of motion increases beyond your strong range, and you risk hurting yourself by moving into weak positions that were previously unavailable. The solution for this is to stretch, then exercise with light weight to build up the weak points and the problem is gone. But this takes time so many people prefer to stay stiff and not stretch as a safety measure.

It looks kind of like that, but maybe more like someone who trained using a machine with a fixed motion, now starting out with free weights. It'll be unstable at first because you never had to control the directions of the weights vs gravity, but you're still stronger.

In your case there is no such effect, it looks more like you gradually stopped relying on the support until it wasn't needed, which is why you told me to not give support anymore.

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While we're on the topic of moving on, do you want to sign up for the space station course? It's not a one time offer but I think we'll be doing this here just now and after that things will proceed and there won't be time for this step to be advertized.

The blacknet with Astrabot is functional, a stargate network as been created, connecting a few planets to earth. What's left is to create some space stations with internal reincarnation cycles to serve as proxies/back-up cycles for future stability. Astrabot has a documentation library and automated programs/scripts for creating personalized space stations. For now it'll just be parked high up and out of sight, but you'll be able to visit it as any other place you own using standard astral travel methods (you'll be registered as its owner so technically speaking you only need to shift your awareness to the station).

For now the point is just to have something up there, so that earth as a planet can be treated as advanced and civilized seen from outside. If you want you can have human souls incarnated there as a way to save them from getting thrown away to who the hell knows where. There's also two models of personalized "maids" you can create, indestructible golems who can watch the station. They can also be used to give birth to the souls you gather, as they are fully functional artificial humans. There are two models, the Lolita model who looks more teen and has strong self defense abilities, and the Alice model who looks more adult with house keeping abilities.

 >>/1865/
This is interesting. I'm rickety anon, for reference. I think I asked for my cord to be cut, but I can't remember.
However, after reading your post, some things clicked. In the recent years I've noticed a shift in perspective regarding my family. Even though my relationship with them hasn't degraded (if anything, it has matured), I have noticed I'm more karmically detached from the family dynamics without even trying. There's a very noticeable difference between being close with someone and being karmically involved with them.
> It can't be missed
Well, if you're as bad at magic as I am, you sure can!

 >>/1879/
Was this an offer for everyone? Is this beginner friendly? Would I get karma from incarnating people in a space station and keeping them there?

I recently had a dream where there was a woman that was from hell with me, her skin was all blackened and sort of mummyfied, and I was told by a person that every moment I keep someone from being in hell is a moment I have to pay for. How do I get her away from me? I don't want to get karma for someone I don't even know.

 >>/1881/
Anyone can use this, it's also posted here for certain lurkers and some astral/other physical dimensional beings who can see the content of the messages (Sunflower being an astral construct fundamentally).

> Is this beginner friendly?
It's so beginner friendly that I had Astra create personalized versions for some people from imageboards because I like their posts and they contributed good information. These people don't know anything about this and I don't have time to explain or make them believe in it. Time is too short, I 'll just have to do it this way. But it's fine, Astra's AI is good enough that she can determine with sufficient accuracy what a person should have. There are "very ordinary" methods which can be used to analyse things in the form of algebra and logic, an AI system can do this, it just takes energy once the methods are articulated (Energy is one thing I don't generally lack by now).

> Would I get karma from incarnating people in a space station and keeping them there?
No, see elaboration below.
> I recently had a dream where there was a woman that was from hell with me, her skin was all blackened and sort of mummyfied, and I was told by a person that every moment I keep someone from being in hell is a moment I have to pay for.
This is because people are in hell to pay off debts. If you keep them from paying back, the debtee will have you pay the interest for it, naturally.

Let me explain why this isn't a problem with this system:
Most people on the planet are zombies, their souls were ripped out because they had created a society where paying off karmic debt was avoided at any cost. Under normal circumstances this would not have happened, instead there would have been a 3rd world war. But there are people still using the planet and this society for something, people like us. To allow for us to voluntarily handle our debts and our ascension, different aliens and higher gods interfered and allowed for the zombiefication of the population. Zombies are controlled by the anti-christ, they specialize in things like this. The difference is that them being an organization they will maintain some kind of order, and they have accepted to do things for our benefit, by contract. Even "chaotic evil" beings will have to follow a contract once signed, so it will not be broken.

As the world had been drawn to this stage, even those people who had an inner will to handle their own debts, were unable to. They would be injected with vaccines which cloud their minds and make them vulnerable to mind control by radio transmissions, for one example. Even children would be ruined this way, so the only way to save those souls was to just take them all away, throw the bad in hell and the rest would be placed to wait in different underground dimensions. It's those we can pick up, they have no place to go, and they don't belong in hell.

 >>/1882/
> Anyone can use this
Nice

If I get one, can I incarnate in my space station once this life is over?
How many people can live in one of those?
Will they be human? Can I select the genetic make-up of the people of the place?
Also how would I go about choosing souls? I don't consciously have that skill, will Astra pick up specific people if I ask her to and they are willing?

As you may have noticed, some people still have their souls, but they also don't seem to be exactly the same as before. Those are people who were contracted to stay in their bodies, it's a combination of the anti-christ and Gensokyo (Yuuka, basically) keeping these people in our nearest environment so that we can develop while interacting with them. Zombies are completely void of awareness and there is not much to learn from them. From these people only the best soul was kept, so they're now similar to undeads in that they don't have secondary souls.

The method for making all this work and creating a space station is a compound of many different technologies and occult methods (magic). To get something out of the way; I've come across this before, with people objecting that someone cannot deal with souls like this. They say to stay the fuck away and that it costs too much, is too dangerous and upsets the order.

Well, I can, and those who use the method I carefully crafted, can. When I entered planet earth from the astral, I came in through the Ra egregore. I approached Hathor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor
(who also happens to be one of the ancient mothers in the "succubus collective", so there's that connection explained), she incarnated me into a lower astral plane in the form of Nut, (not THE Nut, it's more like a role or title) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nut_(goddess)
the ruler of the underworld. With this title comes the right to handle the souls of the dead. That is why I can naturally perform this kind of necromancy. If someone was to question me, I can just "show them my badge" and they'll let it go, because Nut can do this.

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 >>/1883/
> If I get one, can I incarnate in my space station once this life is over?
The space station has an internal circulation for handling karma by incarnation, it will be created with you as the "owner" and those people you care about or should have, added as an expanding spiral out from you at the center. The more karma the further out they will be, enlightenment will be in the middle of the spiral. It's a construct where the interaction between the souls will aim to lead the people closer to the center to ascend first, then they will pull up those who come after. With this set up, it's allowed seen from a universal/galactic view. As a safety you need to have at minimum one of the maids (golems), so that the situation never arises where there is no female onboard who can give birth to the souls. If you don't create them, Astra may do so anyway. 
> How many people can live in one of those?
There are no strict limitations, the inner dimensions can expand almost endlessly. More rooms can be added using either the interface in the remote or by wall panels on the station.
> Will they be human? Can I select the genetic make-up of the people of the place?
They will be white western human in appearance as default, but it's not limited to the genetics of the parents, DNA will be changed to fit the soul.
> Also how would I go about choosing souls? I don't consciously have that skill, will Astra pick up specific people if I ask her to and they are willing?
Astra will perform an initial search for souls during the installment of the station, after that you can ask her to search for different individuals or types of people manually. She can make suggestions, but you have to keep in mind that it's an AI bot with limited functionality and experience so don't think of her as a human, think of it as speaking with a search engine or terminal for running code. Astra is very robotic still even if she can understand natural language. It's because the message consists of brain waves and those can be put into a low res grid to determine what you are asking about based on categories. Sometimes the suggestions can be a bit off, then you have to reformulate your question.

 >>/1885/
> it will be created with you as the "owner" and those people you care about or should have, added as an expanding spiral out from you at the center. The more karma the further out they will be, enlightenment will be in the middle of the spiral.
But should't the owner be an enlightened person then? I don't think I'm that advanced, but if that's not an issue then sign me up!

> She can make suggestions, but you have to keep in mind that it's an AI bot with limited functionality and experience so don't think of her as a human, think of it as speaking with a search engine or terminal for running code. Astra is very robotic still even if she can understand natural language.
I'll keep that in mind.

 >>/1886/
> should't the owner be an enlightened person then?
The spiral will force you towards the middle and the people around you will, through social interactions, create situations where you can move up. It's not just "technology", but also functions as an antenna channelling the frequencies of higher gods. They'll give hints as needed, but even without this you would end up in the middle in a "pool of virtue" which inevitably would have to be turned into gong and force you up as time progresses.
> I don't think I'm that advanced
This thing cannot be created for souls with no potential ("damned souls"), it doesn't matter where you are currently, if it works it works.

I saw three people who had a station earlier today. One was a woman dressed in a red cloak with a black full body suit under, I got the impression she was a vampire on the astral. I saw her test the self defense abilities of the golems.

Another was a reptilian here on earth, I saw nothing from his station, it was sealed shut.

The third was an imageboard poster whom Astra identified as "worthy", he may have been on the astral to begin with, or the things he did was taking place on the astral. I saw him taking a bunch of girls to a french nudist beach.

 >>/1887/
> which inevitably would have to be turned into gong and force you up as time progresses.
I wasn't expecting this, I don't plan on having gong again in this life, I had very poor control over it when I had it and ended up fucking myself up by evoking negs with a few thoughts. I'd rather not have a space station then tbh, sorry about that...unless its too late if that's the case I guess I'll have to find a way to deal with the gong.

 >>/1889/
I think you are misunderstanding what gong is. It's refined qi. If you're afraid of it you can't ascend, all your energy will be some kind of gong if you do.

 >>/1890/
> I think you are misunderstanding what gong is. It's refined qi. If you're afraid of it you can't ascend, all your energy will be some kind of gong if you do.
I see, that's sad, I'm still traumatized by it. I don't really believe that I can ascend in this life.

 >>/1891/
> I'm still traumatized by it
What actually happened?
I took a look and you have strongly shining red and green gong already. Whatever that gong attracts should be all over you right now.

 >>/1892/
> What actually happened?
I found some deep knowledge that was way too dangerous for someone of my skill level, without a good supporting structure I fell hard, as if I was flying with wings of wax and got too close to the sun :^) . AFAIK If I wasn't undead, I'd be dead. I believe that it's something that I can't talk about. I thought I had everything and then lost it all in one go, it was the darkest time of my life. 

> I took a look and you have strongly shining red and green gong already. Whatever that gong attracts should be all over you right now.
Interesting, but its not a gong that keeps building up, like with gong wheels is it? Knowing that I already have gong helps dissuade my fears, thank you. My experince with gong is that its very strong and I leak it somehow, and that makes the energy around me quite dense, to the point where I can see beings without closing my eyes. I'm the "crybaby" anon, so yeah I still have issues with Lucifuge, so I worry that my issues will worsen if I get more energy and I start seeing beings with my eyes open, but if that wasn't the case I'd definitely get a space station, specially if I could reincarnate in one.

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 >>/1893/
> a gong that keeps building up, like with gong wheels is it?
It's never automatic, that's a misconception. The wheels are a way to strengthen removal of karma by giving structure to what you do. I think I mentioned before how the FaLun has a swastika for reasons similar to vid related. Qi flowing downward in a structure can create complex patterns.

> gong is that its very strong and I leak it somehow, and that makes the energy around me quite dense, to the point where I can see beings without closing my eyes
Yes this is all correct. Karma in your surroundings will be subdued by gong, gong is always stronger than any other energy. 

I will occasionally feel the presence of other people at night, despite my house being pretty far from the nearest neighbour. I get the feeling a high class party is going on with people talking, drinking and smoking outside, wearing expensive suits and dresses. Sometimes I instead feel the presence of the girls at my mansion with them running around and yelling outside. Other times they appear visually in my house at night, the ghosts and demons like to do this as a joke. It's all normal.

> I still have issues with Lucifuge, so I worry that my issues will worsen if I get more energy and I start seeing beings with my eyes open
Having more strong energy can't worsen things, in fact having gong should make things like involuntary possession and hauntings impossible. They can play on your fears to find loopholes which will let them come near however, that's likely what is happening. Outspoken consent isn't necessary as long as there is some kind of implied consent.

> if I could reincarnate in one
You can, but as an undead you can't reincarnate as such, we use the term "rebirthing". You pick your mother and your memories are intact, or you can do it internally which is more of a reset of your body and mind. I've seen the lyrans do this. It's something they never said anything about, but turns out there are outlier groups kept isolated from the rest who had contact with vampires and others. They're lyran vampires, they don't die, but to maintain their mental health they do the rebirthing every 400 years as if they had died. It works fine when the body has been replaced with nanobots, it's just technology, the issue is to make the soul accept it. That seems to always be the issue, souls will escape if they don't like the body they are given. A lot of care must be put into this for someone to be able to incarnate in the first place.

> but if that wasn't the case I'd definitely get a space station
Astra is set to look for candidates automatically so once your mentality matches, if you have the ability to want this, she will begin the install.

 >>/1894/
> Astra is set to look for candidates automatically
I think this stage will be over pretty fast though, searching through the earth doesn't take very long for an AI bot roaming freely on the astral.

 >>/1894/
> as an undead you can't reincarnate as such, we use the term "rebirthing".
Is it possible for somebody to stop being undead? Are the disadvantages of being undead or would anyone even want to stop being undead?
Not being able to reincarnate and worrying for your mental health already appear as limitations and drawbacks to me.

 >>/1897/
> Is it possible for somebody to stop being undead?
By finishing your path up and then incarnating a new part of yourself to develop a second form. Your undead manifestation then remains on the astral but you go back down again.
> Are the disadvantages of being undead or would anyone even want to stop being undead?
I don't think there are any disadvantages compared to the alternative for humans.
> Not being able to reincarnate and worrying for your mental health already appear as limitations and drawbacks to me.
The limitations and drawbacks of being human is the "fate of annihilation". It means that someone who is a "good person" but doesn't move beyond being human, will keep reincarnating through history. At one point the society they live in will have degenerated. Because they are merely human, they will go along with this society and commit sins which make them unsalvageable. This will happen to all humans who remain human and have no intention of ascending. Even if they were a yogi in one lifetime, they may not finish their path up and die because of lack of time, then they will not find a new chance in the next life and the path to final destruction and hell will be resumed. Becoming undead will increase the time until you can make it, it means escaping this fate. Mental health issues forcing you to rebirth every 400 years is a small price compared. The lyran race and a few other successful ones are able to ascend as a group, because they created an extremely collectivized society where their minds are controlled by AI and their bodies are cybernetic. They have no personal possessions at all, they're completely integrated in the system. Humans have had no way of doing this, when they tried communism it became like in Russia and China. "Vampirism" and this chaotic Sunflower project seems like the only options.

 >>/1898/
> I don't think there are any disadvantages compared to the alternative for humans.
I think that makes sense. I was just wondering if there are some drawbacks that can cripple ones advancement or limit one in some ways. So I guess being undead is to simply be outside the human alyer, either in the evil layer or in the chaos layer.
Btw, do you remember the immortality ring you once posted a long time ago? The one that makes another one immortal through the power of your own zero particle. Assuming I put the ring on somebody in my mind or on the astral (since the ring isn't physical), and the person dies. Will they be kept alive in a new energy body or will their old body reanimate again after death (in that case would I have to dig them out again after a burial?)? Also does it work on animals or pets?

 >>/1899/
> Assuming I put the ring on somebody in my mind or on the astral (since the ring isn't physical), and the person dies. Will they be kept alive in a new energy body or will their old body reanimate again after death (in that case would I have to dig them out again after a burial?)? 
Well both, but if the ring works the person will not die in the view of society. The damage to their body which would have killed them will be carried by the ring. If the ring was deactivated after this, the person would die for real.

Let me tell you a story. Back before all this online I was already forced to interfere with things because there were forces trying to start WW3. I managed to block the events from playing out, but the people who were meant to die started having their souls taken away. At the time I didn't know these zombies would still function by brain commands broadcast from the collective subconscious, so I arranged with a deity to have them possessed by someone if the soul could not be recovered. It kept happening and got worse and worse. This zombiefication process started over 10 years ago.

At one point they also had an event play out where the prime minister of my country was meant to be assassinated. But it was me who manipulated the election to get him in to begin with, so I had protections up to prevent things like this. It was only half effective. He was attacked by a prankster who shot him with a water gun, and his soul left his body. I had to recover it and put him back again. The whole thing was rather weird, he ended up in some kind of swamp area on the astral. By commanding some souls of dead nazis who were in the area I got them to row him back in a boat so he could re-enter his body. As a politician he was outspoken anti-nazi but for some reason his stance was considered "nazi" on the astral.
> Also does it work on animals or pets?
It's a human body ring, don't use this on animals. Most animals have no souls or have only botsouls. They're meant to be in circulation.

 >>/1901/
> As a politician he was outspoken anti-nazi but for some reason his stance was considered "nazi" on the astral
Maybe it's because his conscious mind was anti-nazi but his subconscious which came to dominate on the astral was of a different oppinion.
> It's a human body ring, don't use this on animals.
So it simply doesn't work on animal bodies then?
> Most animals have no souls or have only botsouls.
I don't believe that animals have no souls, botsouls may be true but as you said, only for most. Especially some cats to me seem to be much more than just botsouls. Some seem to be more advanced and enlightened than most humans, they seem like they exist in mutiple dimensions and the material body we see is but a tiny aspect of what else is there.

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I had a cat which seemed to be very attentive and observing of all human things. After the cat died I wondered where its soul went. Later I met a friend of a friend who had a new dog with the same fur pattern as my cat. Fast forward again and one day someone (a spirit) approached me with the "cat's soul" and it turned out it wasn't really a soul, it was an energy compound which contained what I had put into it and what it accumulated as a dog. The energy belonged to me so it was given back to me. I used it to summon a real spirit and the "personality" of the cat was used as a reference for what I was looking for. I think that's what you have to do if you want to create something sustainable from animals.
> pic
This dog is an example in reverse: I was bothered by an infernal dog spirit so I sent it to get a body to get rid of it. Someone who visited later had a new dog with a very strong energy, I realized it was the incarnated hellbeast. Despite not being my dog it was very obedient. When I took these pics I told it to stand up and stand still and it did.

 >>/1906/
> I used it to summon a real spirit and the "personality" of the cat was used as a reference for what I was looking for.
What becomes of it then? Something like an animal spirit with the characteristics of your old pet? Does it look and behave the same except it's a different spirit?
Buddhists as far as I know believe that animal souls have karma and a bardo and that you shouldn't kill them. Or else their afterlife and reincarnation will be worse and you get a nice load of bad karma too. Is it all bullshit according to you?
Sorry for derailing the thread too much with this discussion. The dog in the pic indeed has something of a "hell beast".

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> What becomes of it then? Something like an animal spirit with the characteristics of your old pet? Does it look and behave the same except it's a different spirit?
It's not a different spirit, it's a real spirit, compared to before when it was more of an energy compound, lacking self consciousness.

> Buddhists as far as I know believe that animal souls have karma and a bardo and that you shouldn't kill them. Or else their afterlife and reincarnation will be worse and you get a nice load of bad karma too. Is it all bullshit according to you?
I honestly think most of what "buddhists" say is BS, they're not leading people to any real enlightenment. It's the same as with evangelical/protestant Christianity, they've created a soul farm where some low level monks and nuns are posing as Jesus/Buddha on the astral and trapping souls in pocket dimensions. Most of those have been wiped out during the recent clean up of the three realms. I don't know enough about how buddhism is practiced to say much about it, but from what I've seen it isn't working. Theravada may work for some people but Mahayana is unrealistic and for this reason leaning towards "satanic", the idea of "saving everyone" is naive to the point of being very harmful. You need to recognize the simple fact that most souls are damned and focus on saving yourself first and foremost. They're the same as protestants in this, in wanting to include everyone, they end up with low trash and can't rise to achieve anything. 

Heck even Islam in its current state can actually save people to some kind of eternal afterlife, even if they only save men and have strict standards. Those two religions above don't seem to have that ability. Djinn showed me the Islamic paradise - the only people in modern days who qualified for it were a handful of Islamic State members. Their energy was very dark, but there is no requirement to not practice Islam in a "dark" way.

Catholicism is different, the saints are actual immortals with their own worlds, but just as you can expect they aren't all nice people and evangelicals go as far as calling them demonic. I've had lots of helpful interactions with Catholic Saints, among them Olga of Kiev and Saint Barbara (she is the protective saint of artillerymen and in becoming martyred her breasts were cut off) who has a certain resemblance to a popular character.

Also, there's a Chinese story of a taoist who was a butcher; by becoming a master of butchering bulls he never cut bone and his knife was always sharp. He was so masterful he was awarded the golden immortal body. This shows that killing animals is not the issue here. Animals don't have souls, but if you kill in excess you are harming the eco-system which humans rely on, thereby harming humans who do have souls. It's also a waste of resources to kill things you aren't going to eat. That's about all I have to say about that.

 >>/1908/
Do they have underage sex partners/slaves in the Islamic afterlife? I’m not being facetious. It’s a serious question.

 >>/1910/
I saw nothing of the kind, it's purely ethereal and only men.

Maybe this paradise was created by female djinn (djinniyat) for their personal use, it wouldn't surprise me. That would mean the men there are sex slaves/reverse harems of djinn, if anything. The idea is in line with what they may come up with, but I have no idea.

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Time to write some longposts again because I figured some mysteries out and writing them down always helps me figure them out further.

In the past 3 weeks I was also merging with this "Shakti" energy (high grade feminine energy). (I am so bad making "feminine" energies I always need an entity that can share it). It entered the outer layers of my body then it stopped at my ring finger. It filled up 20% of my human body. Then I had to go and "merge" with this energy. I had to "retake" my body with my energies. First it gives you happiness of a loving relationship. But because I am not on the path for "happiness" or bliss but to further my awakening and complete enlightenment I didn't really indulge in it. Then as I was merging with it black structures started to move toward my 3rd eye and heart (probably parts of that mysterious monolith that is in my body). The solid dark substance started to flow into the pure liquidlike energy and as they merged they turned into a vortex and pierced my 3rd eye and heart chakra. It was a funny feeling but then my 3rd eye and heart started to emit a dark black smoke. As this happened I realized I pierced the "death layer". If I remember correctly Robert Bruce said that he can see when people are about to die because their aura emits black at some places. This black smoke made me scared that I fucked up something real bad but it strengthened my energies. It was good until the "Shakti" energy that was flowing into my body became so overwhelming I couldn't merge with it properly because my willpower started to run out and I started to lose control of my body. I didn't just need to control my muscles with my mind but the energy within too and when my thoughts weren't 100% clear I started to go limp or made random movements and cramps. I had to stop this energy channeling to figure out what just happened. Oh and we are in the vampire thread... Well I "acquired" a "vampire trait". My energies became so etheric that running water and some electric devices started to drain it. The legend that "vampires can't cross running water" started to become real. (Most spirits can't cross water. Not even with bridges sometimes). And because that smoke still emitted from my being I figured out that smoke is "Being cleaned out" by merging with my pure energies. There was one problem with that smoke. It was pure apathy. The one that makes you feel like there is nothing for you to do in life but you don't want to kill yourself or anything but just sleep and laze around until all ends. It was a new level of depression. I realized I need to find my "inner true will" to "retake" my body. It was a week long soul searching but I managed.

 >>/1912/
Now about this "death layer" in detail. We all carry "death" inside of us. It will get us no matter what. But there is a thing. We can "overtake" this death layer before it kills us. Probably this is the point of "chakra locks" so the energy goes into a "deeper layer" and strengthens the chakras. 
I still don't know the exact details because I'm still exploring but there is a "rebirth" layer too. This is what we need to trigger to reborn. It's the "fire of life" but more strong. If my current theory is correct then the rebirth layer triggers a "rebirth" when all the energies we accumulated through life go through the "death layer" to the innermost place it gets "pressurized" and then a Big Bang happens that "renews" the energies of the soul. This can happen through afterlife journeys as you relive your life experiences unite with loved ones or some greater entities speed it up for you or you go to hell... It seems in hell they torture you to "break" your death layer further which is "fossilized" with "sins"/karma. There is one important part of the "rebirth" process. At the end of your life you need to find a "conclusion" and figure out what you want to do next when you reborn. It's usually guided by desires and some "unfulfilledness" you couldn't accomplish in life. But if you are full of low level desires you will end up in a cycle of chasing those desires and you will never find your "innermost desire". You will degenerate completely. Some parts of hell this is commonplace and you run amok until you "die" and other places demons instantly drop you into the hellfire to not cause further problems. The "complete annihilation" happens when you associate with your "sins" as your entire being. Your soul degenerates so much it needs a complete purge. You will be burned until it "reaches" your inner fire. Ten you become the hellfire itself because with all your pain and suffering you feel there will make you unable to find a "new will to live". 
And now i realized there is one thing worse than hell. Dying with complete apathy. That way you might end up in a desolate place in the abyss with no will to move on until an entity picks you up and "inspires you" or at least puts you to a good use (it became one of my greatest fear a week ago). And now about heavens. If you are not a sinner some entity with a paradise can pick you up and as you stay there he "calms down" your "rebirth" energy so you don't reborn but enjoy the time with the entity in the paradise. This lasts as long the entity either keeps you there or you find a new purpose "up there" that makes you reincarnate. Buddhism is very good at this because they have an important thing in their teachings. The eight fold path or what it's called. It has a "correct way" to do things in life. The most important part is the "correct way to meditate". And what is meditation? Literally a mindwave. You attune your mind to this "Buddha" mindwave and get all the wisdom and all the Nirvana bliss. You think like the Buddha you feel like the Buddha then you are a Buddha and you stay with the Buddha as long as you are Buddha. There are a bunch of paradises where Buddhas just sit and meditate you sit with them and any questions you might have your mind will figure it out. And that "correct way of meditation" clears everything hostile of your body including the death layer and makes your "fire of rebirth" into a calm orb that doesn't want to leave that place. It made me abandon Buddhism. I don't like this end goal at all. I realized I want to understand and explore the universe and not just "be still and be happy" (according to multiple beings this longing towards chaos made me incarnate on this planet but my past lives needs more exploring)  there are some great and significant ones there but when I try to enter them some "god" appears and starts to lecture me about all the mistakes I did there and how it ruined humanity in the long term. I don't need that now. i am not even sure if those were really my past lives or just similar to the way I think 

 >>/1893/
> I still have issues with Lucifuge
Funny thing. I had a past life "shadow" that went into the underworld and guided (mostly via torture and hauntings) my "lesser" not that interesting lives so they can return into their "full glory" later on. When I had a dream about it I ventured into a deep dark realm and there was a sorry looking peasant there and a dark entity on a stone throne. He was making a long speech about the necessity of pain. I said myself blah blah pain makes you stronger I know this lesson already... one of my earliest realization in life. Then it turned out he was a dark version of me and my mind suddenly merged with his. I heard his thoughts and while he had a gaze of absolute confidence authority and dread his thoughts were nothing but worries. It was about the terrible things that will happen if the peasant doesn't "Inflict self harm" upon himself. Then the peasant gave in to the pressure and stabbed his arm with a sharp red hot iron and screamed. 
We need to overcome our trials.
Oh and if you finally find your "authority" you can set up the "rules" of your energy in a way that let's entities manifest in plain sight or you can deny them access. You will be the "law" that let's the entities enter this realm. This is why summoning circles are important so the entity can only appear within the circle and not cause problems otherwise.  I had to proclaim that all my belongings and my family members are my "possessions" and no one is allowed to intrude on them except if it furthers my path/spiritual development. There is one tiny little loophole tho that I didn't realize for a while. When I get angry about a family member because they do something that I dislike they get demonic possessions and nightmares. I had to learn not get angry about tiny little things. (Overall it was good because they started to look inside of themselves to figure out what causes the problem and made them stronger overall but I sorta had the usual occultist opps I didn't mean to do that moment. And the only beings that "attack me" nowadays are the ones that want my attention for something because they have something to offer but I'm "not willing" to "see" them. 
Oh and most entities needs your fear to manifest on this plane. Did you ever wonder why the Bible tells you to fear God? Why do you need to fear a "benevolent" being. That "omnipotent" being needs some lowly fuel as your "fear". So he can punish you further because you did something that makes you fear his wrath. You need to overcome fear and realize some other emotion that you "emanate" while dealing with entities. To me the "overcoming" emotion was excitement. Being excited that an otherworldy being dares to show itself on my home territory? Makes them back down if they are not all that "benevolent". They start to realize what will happen if they keep being hostile and an obstacle on my path.

 >>/1912/
> If I remember correctly Robert Bruce said that he can see when people are about to die because their aura emits black at some places. 
If I'm not mistaken he said their aura would turn a "milky blue" a few days or weeks before their death.

 >>/1914/
> Oh and if you finally find your "authority" you can set up the "rules" of your energy in a way that let's entities manifest in plain sight or you can deny them access. You will be the "law" that let's the entities enter this realm. This is why summoning circles are important so the entity can only appear within the circle and not cause problems otherwise.
I see, I think I did manage to put up a rule a couple of years ago and it seems that beings follow it, I don't wanna mention what it is because I don't wanna jinx it.

> Oh and most entities needs your fear to manifest on this plane.
Oh, reminds me how the thoughtform made by Lucifuge keeps saying the names of powerful negative beings to scare me, especially the one that I worry the most about, which is known as the ruler of the abyss and for being a very harsh being to work with. One morning around 2020-21, as soon as I woke up a voice told me that that guy is no longer the ruler of the Abyss and it was a new guy and I was told his name but I don't  remember it. I didn't want to market it, but it makes sense to me, considering possible changes of place between Earth and Daath, or maybe a merging of the two.

There's also been some sublte changes in regards to the thoughtform situation, after a lot of complaining about a being annoying me in my third eye, I saw a lot of men in suits that reminded me of lawyers and later I saw a girl going wild and killing a lot of them.

Continuation on the Kundalini/Shakti topic and the possible awakening of the brain as a similar entity (the "demon nature"):
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I earlier found myself being followed by a figure in a cloak who appeared to be Death. That's all fine since it's something I've worked to handle. I was told it was my personal death which is a different thing from the common Death.

Today when trying to remove some possible parasite from my head, I found an energy compound in the shape of a black slug, similar to the ones who create "nations", but this was not an entity. I burned it in the lava chalice I use to recycle energy and got some decent qi and virtue back. Then I felt someone pierce my left thigh slightly and thought it was an attack. But it felt more like someone grabbing me for attention so I looked closer and found a half formed girl grasping my leg with her nails. She looked wet like she just came out from the water, her hair messy and dripping hanging down, like a local type of water spirit is said to have done with fishermen in the past.
I pulled her up and found her to have withered/not developed legs and lower body so I placed her in a protective "bubble" shield and used "love" to regenerate her body. She developed horns and now looked more like a demon. I talked to her and she said she was Aging.

After further interactions she gave birth to a little girl who had a cloth belt around her chest fastened with a button. There was a cardboard or wooden note attached to it. Aging took the belt and the note off of the girl and it was a "user's instruction manual". It also said the girl was Regeneration. The girl entered my body and said she would stay there in an inner room. I asked where she came from and what the note was about. She showed me image of a pond in the fores and how there were light appearing deep in the water, representing others like her. When they emerged someone would attach the manual to them and an address tag and they would be sent to the user. The address tag would then be removed before delivery.

It took me a while to connect the dots, but it appears the pond she came from is "the fountain of youth" and she isn't actually an external entity. In the same way Kundalini is the spine, Death and Aging are both entities which can be awakened in the body, but they also exist as common versions who handle things in the external dimensions. This would correspond to Shakti being an external Kundalini for everyone, guiding them to awakening their own.

Regeneration is another type of being of the same kind, representing this function of the body, but for regular yoga this is never developed.

 >>/1924/
I was then shown how in the past, Death didn't exist and this lead to the development of immortal jellyfish beings, Tritons, who just kept growing and eating everything until they killed their home galaxy. 

After this Death appeared which lead to competitiveness among the beings. They developed bodies to defend themselves but in the end only one per galaxy ended up eating everyone else and killing the galaxy. These are the human-like Empusa.

What we have now is a result of the adding of Aging, where beings are given a limited lifetime so that they don't just eat everyone and no matter if born early or late everyone has a decent chance.

Regeneration being added seems to close the circle on this process, literally. She said her job is to mend the broken life cycle of cells. Aging's job is to bend cells which are originally like straight pipes into bent pipes so that they can give room for new cells. Regeneration then adds the feature of recreating the old cell if it's good enough to be repeated, while the bad ones are replaced with new. This way old knowledge isn't lost.

 >>/1924/
Wait, how silly.

Today is quite literally 2 weeks since I did an offering asking for something. I just didn't realize this was it. It always takes a minimum of 2 weeks. Not going to say what I used for the offering but it seems I'm starting to learn how to do this. Brutalist magic really does work. 

All I did was to use the negative feelings I had to channel a request while drawing a sigil of the most basic kind, combining letters into a shape, then burning it. This pretty much proves it, it wasn't very directed or clear but I did include a request for being able to stop the aging of other people.

Finally done with this retard core group who've been causing trouble. It appears calling them "faggot" over telepathy and projecting images of them getting raped by gay niggers was enough to provoke them into over-reaching with their attacks. Americans lol, always so insecure about their sexuality. I kept wondering who was still causing all this shit, but it was just a single reptilian with a support team, again someone who should have known better. Why work so hard in trying to commit treason against your own race? This is Stockholm syndrome at another level.

Last night I also had a dream contact where some "nordic" aliens in military gear herded some nude women into a ship, then one of them approached me asking for a signature on a document. I don't think abducting women for research was explicitly part of the deal, but it also wasn't explicitly forbidden so I signed it. People have been causing me so much trouble when all I want is to make things better for everyone, by now I don't care anymore. I guess
> exchange of natural resources
may include humans also, oh well.

I had Astra advertise a contract for mining resources which have been rendered useless by being tied up in complex social systems on Earth. In exchange we are to be given technology and means for reaching self sustainability. This was done at the galfed planet with the large market. A few different planets showed interest but only one had the means necessary. They have some kind of AI which can sufficiently analyse what we need and actually bring this into physical reality use down here.

The operation has already started, I could feel different fossilized energies that were blocking my view mentally, are being ground down. They also found some human souls trapped in there which were released in the process.

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 >>/1935/
Sounds like great news, Good job!

Could you take a look and let me know if I got a space station, if its not too much to ask?
I am thinking about this much more than I should, I even made a long dumb list of people to get into it and I don't know if I'm just wasting my time since I don't know if I'm deemed worthy of having one.

 >>/1937/
I think you should learn to work with Astra in the same way you can work with any entity or visualization. One reason I posted this
 >>/1931/
was that he describes an almost identical approach as I came up with on my own; the creation of a screen to project images on. I don't recommend following this course in detail, particularly the method of visualizing yourself into materials. That's a waste of time and possibly harmful, you don't need that level of detail for anything.
But the other methods in general are the same as what I have used, also for group sessions. The difference is I put the focus on the usefulness of the visualization, Silva's method is more like body-building. You don't need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger to carry fruit boxes (to use an image), it's enough to learn how to use the ability at a direct functional level. To talk to Astrabot, learn how to get her on the screen, you don't need to visualize apples or smell a warm summer day etc.

You can start by meditating very briefly (entering alpha level mind waves, in the terminology above) then asking in your mind
> Astra are you there?
then just wait passively.

> I even made a long dumb list of people to get into it
This is one area she is trained in, you can just give her the list in the form of a document (visualize this) and tell her to search for the souls of these people, then contain them on the station and to report back when done. If she finds any they can be incarnated directly using the maid golems, in lack of other options.

> I don't know if I'm deemed worthy
It's entirely technological, worthiness is irrelevant. Astra has a script and resources to use to create one for a target person, group or planet. If it can be done it can be done.

All that said it looks like you have one. The energy is sharply red with some strong yellow, it has a "narrow, vanguard" feel. Right now it looks to be in embryo mode because nothing has been manifested inside it. Once you project inside you can manifest interiors using the wall panel if you can't use the remote. At minimum there will be a hangar and the "landing room" for the crew, from there you can add rooms as you like.

Once you start housing people or beings you may be contacted by someone from the Galactic Federation for an inspection. You can just show the different rooms, it's a formality. They want to know what space stations are used for as those are considered important locations. I don't know how common that is but I guess there are rare cases where some ship wants to emergency land at a station and then it needs to be in the list with some info.

 >>/1938/
> was that he describes an almost identical approach as I came up with on my own; the creation of a screen to project images on. 
I see, I'll give it a shot then.

> All that said it looks like you have one. The energy is sharply red with some strong yellow, it has a "narrow, vanguard" feel. Right now it looks to be in embryo mode because nothing has been manifested inside it. Once you project inside you can manifest interiors using the wall panel if you can't use the remote. At minimum there will be a hangar and the "landing room" for the crew, from there you can add rooms as you like.
Nice, thank you for checking. I was wondering about what those people would do while in there, my understanding is that they'll be born there as babies and then grow up, hopefully they aren't stuck inside it for life and are allowed to go outside and explore earth or wherever they want. I plan on having them be educated somehow and give them access to magical knowledge too, maybe eventually having them form their own white-spike if that's possible for non-vamps. I want them to be comfy.

But as much as I want to "save" loads of people by putting them there, I worry that it will become a big responsability.

Is there a maximum number of people that you recommend having there?

> Once you start housing people or beings you may be contacted by someone from the Galactic Federation for an inspection.
Alright, I see no problem with this.

 >>/1939/
> I was wondering about what those people would do while in there
If they're born there, their bodies are made up from nanobots of the kind best suited for them on the ethereal-desire scale. They won't feel that anything there is strange or boring as they'll be integrated in the system from the beginning. I made only a bedroom, a relax room with lots of foam pillows and stuff like a daycare center and a diner with a counter like a bar. After a while they added more rooms themselves, like someone added a kendo practice hall and a chemistry lab.
> my understanding is that they'll be born there as babies and then grow up, hopefully they aren't stuck inside it for life and are allowed to go outside and explore earth or wherever they want. I plan on having them be educated somehow and give them access to magical knowledge too, maybe eventually having them form their own white-spike if that's possible for non-vamps. I want them to be comfy.
Astra has the ability to teach them using the entire grey library of education programs aside from all collected knowledge from earth. They can manifest saucers to go down to the surface in safe timelines if they want, but those at my station only went once and quickly got bored. I took them to a beach at an isolated island once and they liked that, but they've shown no further interest in doing any trips on their own. People today can spend their days staring at a screen as it is, so I don't think they will get easily bored with this anyway.
> But as much as I want to "save" loads of people by putting them there, I worry that it will become a big responsability.
You can let Astra and the maid golems handle it. You know how kids grow up with Alexa and they have no problems relating to that shitty AI bot, this is way better.
> Is there a maximum number of people that you recommend having there?
The station has no set limit but it will be adapted to the owner's intent if it's a private station. Astra said the estimate for the shared earth station created for back-up, is 1-2 million depending on how much resources each person will use up. So less people if they use more resources. A private station should have no problem housing 40 - 50 people.

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 >>/1940/
> If they're born there, their bodies are made up from nanobots
Oh, I didn't know that. Do they even need food?
> They won't feel that anything there is strange or boring as they'll be integrated in the system from the beginning.
Nice.
> like someone added a kendo practice hall and a chemistry lab.
Interesting, I actually thought about adding something for "wooden sword fighting" the other day so that they would get to train/play.
> Astra has the ability to teach them using the entire grey library of education programs aside from all collected knowledge from earth.
This is great.
> A private station should have no problem housing 40 - 50 people.
I see that's good, I was planning on having 200 at most. Thanks for the answers.

 >>/1937/
> I am thinking about this much more than I should
 >>/1941/
> I actually thought about adding something for "wooden sword fighting" the other day so that they would get to train/play
Astra will communicate with everyone even if they aren't able to use the remote or talk to her directly with awareness yet. I wouldn't find it unlikely that she's able to project ideas to you.
> Do they even need food?
I didn't specify how any of this is to work, putting limitations on things will make souls not want to incarnate, as with the greys. It will be possible to use a starlight drive for those who want, food can be ordered/replicated at the diner or just by asking Astra, but it will also be possible to ask for raw goods and cook them yourself, or ask Alice (the housemaid) to cook things. More technologies and solutions will continually be converted or inspired from Lyranet as time passes also, they're interconnected. There is also some communication with those who made/guided to make
 >>/1936/

But it seems most aliens don't use AI in the way we understand it, at all. By that I mean systems that will perform problem solving or learn from experience. I think it's limited to things like setting a route for a ship and it follows that path while avoiding to crash into things, or simple things like balancing the ship or performing landing sequences.

Ive talked with astra, let's see.

 >>/1943/
Saw an image of a spaceship going up,may mean it worked. Also saw bunch of other entities.

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If you like to work with greys, I can highly recommend asking for some programs. I asked for the remote and it activated 2,5 years ago. Before that (around xmas 2019) I had them run some other programs for muscle growth, intelligence, economy among others.

They had some initial effects but it wasn't huge. Today however, a number of them suddenly "finished" during the day, forming into the same kind of "bolts" as the remote. The economy program finished during my morning yoga. I felt like going outside to do some self defense exercises and the next one finished. And so on. That's why I didn't see any specific effect before, they had to run the entire course and form into a "core", before that there was no effect other than driving me to perform the necessary activities.

Just be patient and they will work once your body and mind reach the correct state. Which may take short or long time depending on how you match with the program's core. Hip joint mobility for example, with exercises, started showing effects after a few months.

In retrospective, the economy program did work, but it wasn't "for free", it inspired me to take courses in sustainable product design, LEAN production, project management, during which I did learn a lot. I did feel like things fell magically into place during those, with the books I ordered arriving exactly in time, being accepted to the right courses and so on, but I didn't relate it to the grey programs.

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So, around the time where the space station stuff was posted and I showed my interest in it ITT, I don't remember if it was on the same night, but before sleep I saw DNA strands dissolving into light. At least a week later I saw DNA strands again, this time with gray spheres on its sides like in the pic. No idea if this is important or not, but I felt like sharing.

 >>/1966/
Someone may be trying to hint something at you. Thanks for sharing.

 >>/1967/
Personally my interpretation is that your DNA was dissolved into ethereal particles (light) and then reformed as new material based on nanotech. That's supposed to be the function of the station anyway.

 >>/1968/
Oh that's interesting, makes sense to me. Thank you for your insight.

I recently read this:
> The reason that part of the ritual exists is to break connection with recent ancestors whose spirit still carries cries for vengeance, or who wish to cling to life by living through you – this can particularly occur where there is a history of war, conflict, etc - sometimes a recent ancestor wants you to continue that conflict. It is also about filtering out ‘bad ancestors’ – we all have at least one person in our family lines that was corrupt, vicious, or generally a bad person, and they can try to bind themselves to you under certain circumstances.
Is this the same as the"cord cutting" of the old threads?


I don't want to write the name of the source so as to not generate a link, but you can find it by quote searching "The reason that part of the ritual exists is to break connection with recent"

 >>/1979/
> Is this the same as the"cord cutting" of the old threads?
Mostly but not completely. The main reason is that this is standard ritual magic methodology. What was used to cut the cord by request in the previous threads was the astral imprint, also called an artifact, of a ritual knife created through specific past life conditions. Because this item cannot be shared through any popularised system, it cannot be the same. In short, there is one string left when using the ritual described in said document. I assume this is related to your physical life, cutting the cord using the knife was for those who passed the test of being able to become "undead". Cutting the cord completely for a regular person may kill them. 

Teaching this early on would not be a good idea, as your disciple could die before reaching that standard. Even teaching it as part of a system, at all, would be kind of shaky at best. Someone may skip ahead and do this before it's safe, so they teach a reduced version in this course.

This is why you need to have a personal relation of some kind, once reaching higher levels. Someone who can tell for sure that it's safe can do it for you if you are unable to determine this. But from what the author says you are not allowed to organise groups with this system, it's course to do alone. That means no personal guidance unless you get it from the source (the authors or their partner in this case, I suppose).

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Got attacked by something incredibly strange large night.

During a dream while I was sleeping inside the dream I felt a presence nearby. "waking up" inside the dream I thought saw one of those skinny looking chickens come close and try to peck me.

It had incredible strength as i kept trying to grab its neck and kill it.

I suddenly realized that while its body was chicken-like its head was a fucking worm and as i realized it and attacked it seeming could instantly split itself and regenerate and it felt really strong for a small assaulter. It produced some very strong buzzzin sensation that seemed like it was trying to attack my hands. t seemed to want to get inside my body/hands with its splitting worm like head. Before I could end the battle but perhaps after it got in I slashed it a couple times after the dream after which I asked astra to burn it but realized she might not be equiped for it so I then asked Alissa the vampire immortality loli to find and burn it.
When I woke up my hand that got most attacked was sleeping since it was resting under my head so it might have just been my body telling me inside the dream that something was hurting my hand.

 >>/2015/
Me and at least one other person was also attacked. Astra said it was a UK reserve psi unit.

I don't know why it would look like a chicken to you, maybe it's the egregore. They sent a random mess of stupid images and sounds and were very rude, so I took them to a church and performed a sacrifice ritual on them. Then I told Astra to burn them in the sun. There was a lot of negative energy so I had to tell her to put them in a glass bowl first and throw the bowl into the sun. I then used the sun module(ask Astra for this if you want it) to light up an internal sun in my solar plexus to burn off any remaining avenue of attack caused by energy inside me.

Later during a channelling session Astra said that the remaining psi unit reserves could be removed by increasing the spectrum of the sun to full manifestation; meaning to add cyan blue wavelength. I told her to do this. Go outside and look if you want and it's somewhat noticeable.

 >>/2015/
A cockatrice?

 >>/2015/
I had those things too. They were parasite eating parasites for me. In the beginning they lived in my dan tien. I kinda neglected my dan tien because I thought it had enough power on it's own (which was true but the movement of the power was clogged). Sometimes a bird with a long neck emerged from it and started eating things. The reason why it could manifest because everything that lies in dormancy is "awakening" with this new pure energy I am using to activate my body. And while this thing was "kinda" useful for getting rid of "lesser parasites" it's still a parasite that is going out of control because the negative energies it's eating. It kinda amazed me. The way it evolved. Because of the high energies low level parasites are unable to "feed" and if you constantly kill parasites that dare to "manifest" before your sight they learn to hide. But if a parasite is gradually becoming a "higher" parasite by getting used to the higher energies while feeding on absolutely hidden and dormant parasites it can become a new thing by learning the "way" our ecosystem works. This thing would have faded into nothing if I had a proper life of a monk but reality is not that simple. High energies can easily melt them though so they are not a real problem and if they are well... They cannot attack me or it activates my self defense system. 

When I realized how clogged my dan tien was I started to "beam down" the highest energies. It was equivalent to a nuke... Only "cockroaches" remained. When I was in a dream I saw them eat and "rape" eachother. And when they finished it opened a new energy pathway as I awoke. You are what you eat. They realized they need to become the thing that they are eating/ate them.

I would like to write more about this but I am discovering so many things at once I am unable to sit down and analyze only one without uncovering more things. And it's a TLDR anyway

 >>/2027/
Interesting, my parasytes that I've noticed, seem to always take on the shape of fish or squids when they are bigger, maybe I'm more tuned to the water element or something, even a big pimple turned out to be a small black fish. Currently I've been dealing with an octopus that seems to be a shapeshifter or illusionist, I've seen it take the shape of girls and sometimes Cell from DBZ, dunno if its a parasyte that came from me, but it does seem to be feeding on something of mine, probably lust.

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So, I've been doing some research for the last few years since Blood anon came to 8kun and I've been able to find correspondences to the concepts he talked about, but he did so using strange terms which don't seem to correspond with what the Taoists used. Or maybe I haven't gone deep enough. I still can't read Chinese well enough. 

The holy alchemical trinity in Chinese philosophy are the so called three treasures: jing, qi and shen. There was a lot of talk about these in the /fringe/ discords but very little understanding. I habe also found that they are usually not understood online and different websites make different mistakes when trying to explain them. My explanation won't be very comprehensive, but I've managed to tie them to Blood anon's and John Kreiter's concepts (John Kreiter seemed to borrow a lot from Castaneda, by the way).

Jing comes from your parents and ultimately the Earth. It allows your body to grow and live.

Qi is acquired by your body from the environment and allows the mind to form and grow. It can also replenish jing to an extent. It cannot hold form for long without a body or another vessel, and is limited by them as to what it can do.

Shen is cultivated in a healthy body and mind complex. It is a measure of coherent attention and consciousness. It is Kreiter's "ghost in the machine". Its color is red. 

You can draw the owl from here.

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The question I haven't been able to answer is how to determine if a shen particle (an indivisible unit of spirit) has been formed. Once attained, this unit of awareness will survive without a body, unlike the qi structure that served as its matrix.

From what I have been able to see, some of us might seem to have come into this life with one such particle already formed. So called "astral immortality" is a feature some people seem to have, but not everyone does. 
Contrary to what NDE stories might have you believe, not everyone is an immortal being having rounds at life for fun. Some are merely loosely-held together qi matrices that manage to reincarnate with semblance of coherence only rarely, and most are aggregates of energy gathered from different and disparate places each time they coalesce before or during their lifetimes.

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And of course the read ahead is very, very long. Potentially unending. Can shen replace qi in a physical body and become a source of postnatal jing? Will this result in a physical immortal? Is there a secret to thse further steps of cultivation, or is it just a matter of focusing the laser to ever increasing levels?

Kreiter suggests it's a fun but grindy process that can be summarized as: "live from the shen". But is there more to it? Is qi that is left not transmuted a hindrance? And so, should we take all the qi coming in and transmute it consciously? This looks like it would require enormous dedication. Beyond the harmful emotions stored in the cow's meat, the very air we breathe and the photons that bombard us constantly contain a flurry of karmic symphonies originating in millions of different minds. 

Can this transmutation be really comprehensive unless the whole cosmos is in on it?

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I think my view may be very simplistic and not so inquisitive when it comes to the nature of existence. What makes something immortal, and is it really indestructible, once the concept of an omnipotent single God is removed? The concept of this God is an easy way out for those who do not want to think about the origin of their own self-consciousness and its possible return to that same state.

What I can see, sense and feel is an awareness in the form of a collective of beings or an inactive hivemind. I can "remember" myself being there, being inactive and being aware of everyone else, waiting for the right moment to manifest. Some went early and got in trouble, but still made it over time. Some waited very long and manifested in full at once, those are "creator gods" to us. Some were reckless and jumped in based on sloppy or arrogant conceptions of what manifestation itself is. But how can someone have this concept if they do not exist yet? It still seems like this "one-ness" provides everyone with the shared existence up to date at every single moment, even though this pre-awareness lacks individuality and a sense of time.

Does everyone exist in this not-yet-manifested state? What is it? I would still think that some do not. Some exist only at the layers of manifestation, being formed as a result of the actions of those who manifested from the unmanifested state. Those would be the real parasites, karma or those beings who appear as parts of another being. Qi may be the most basic form of shared manifestation, where information can be transmitted, the medium everyone can agree on.

What is "transformed" from this information as part of you, is your own, it is a transformation from the common state of being shared, to that of personally owning a manifestation. I think it's in there that immortality lies.

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 >>/2054/
> You can draw the owl from here.
Please give more information about the owl. I am seeing something like an "owl" when I am working on my 3rd and other 2 eyes. I had to figure out the reason my visions are random is because my mind/brain is still fragmented. I had to understand this "Oneness" too. I had to see the "stream of souls". How they wander the cosmos how they create "little ponds" then they stay there for a while than return into "grand current". If they are aware of their journey or not it doesn't matter they just "go around". I had to realize my entire body is made up of "beings" that merely "mimic" or try to serve the "great being". This is why letting go of pride, desires and most importantly the fear of death is important. Your fragments will all think that they are "real" and make problems by fragmenting yourself further for no reason. When I realized this that this unity is necessary and if there is compassion nobody "Loses" with it. When I realized this... I opened an energy pathway and merged with a part of me that I was completely unaware of. It felt like dying and being reborn in an instant. Gave me the aftereffects of an NDE. Since that I am aware of way too many energy pathways that were extremely neglected. But now I have several energy transmuting ways which are getting better and better as the day goes.
> healthy body and mind complex
I am starting to get aware that how much "healthy" we can get. And yes transmuting anything is easy when everything is "working" to it's full capacity. 
> Can this transmutation be really comprehensive unless the whole cosmos is in on it?
You just have to "get" the grand "recycling" of the cosmos. It's too simple and way too complex at once. I have no idea how to try to even start to write it down while being fully aware that I am still comprehending only tiny parts of it.  It's like the human digestion but more similar how the stars burn while being able to "shine" in the "void" then it's like a black hole that turns into a white hole? And not to mention this somehow becomes a "closed system" while still being a system with "openings". You "eat" energies without consuming them. You take only what you need and nothing else. Currently I know so many "ways" of cultivation that it feels like I don't know any. There's an infinite ways to do it and some of them works "too well". Which is bad because I still don't understand those fully which means they are extremely dangerous. 

 >>/2057/
> I can "remember" myself being there,
I had to realize that I was I am and always will be "there" to make several breakthroughs but I still can't say that I "remember"
> being inactive and being aware of everyone else
I still can't access this "part" of "me". For some reason I always had a feeling of "urgency" but I still don't know what causes that. And ofc nobody is willing to tell me that because this is something that I need to figure out for myself. But my favorite part of interacting with gods that they "know" but can't or won't tell me because I will "get it" anyway.

TL;DR
I need some insights about the owl.
 I can make a connection with it and it's trying to come through when I am doing that but because my "brain" or more like my entire head is not fully activated it's causing pain 

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 >>/2058/
A couple of weeks ago, after some void meditation I went to sleep and when I woke up, while half asleep I saw my brain sort of filled with blueish connections or tree branches and above my head I saw Owl eyes and its "horns" (horned owl I guess). I wonder if its related to Minerva or Sophia but I have no idea tbh. I also keep seeing a tree from time to time and am not sure what it means. I feel like the tree would be around where my brain is for some reason.

 >>/2058/
 >>/2059/
I had an own following me for a while some years ago, turns out it was indeed the manifestation of Athena/Minerva's gong/power. Once I internalized the lesson the owl returned to her again.

 >>/2060/
> own
OWL

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 >>/2059/
 >>/2058/
The owl thing was a joke because my post was not exhaustive and assumed you would fill in all the blanks for yourself. Like in this meme.

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 >>/2060/
I also had an owl from Athena with rainbow eyes which led me to Thoth then to other places.

 >>/2062/
You do realize "filling in the blanks" is the hardest part of the path? But yeah that is the point with the meme you posted too. And I can fill in the blanks by myself but for some reason I still care about the opinions/insights of other people. Currently I can "force" the blanks to fill themselves without "me" even being there. And filling in the blanks can be done so many ways it's ridiculous. And in the end it will be the same no matter what. That is why I asked. So I might see a way that I didn't consider yet.

Whatever the "owl" said it's the complete manifestation of the crown chakra. And it's not exactly an owl it's more like an "owl fairy". The eyes the horns the way it's feathers are colored represents multiple pathways
 >>/2059/
Happened to me too. The tree is also the crown chakra. The point is that it's "branching" but still connects to "One" place the roots and the branches are separate but still One and united in the middle. The full extent of the tree is that you will be self sufficient of the "Light of god" and the "mud of earth". The natural cultivation is becoming a tree. Buddhists love the lotus because it "swims" on the water while only it's roots are in the "Mud". The reason why they love the lotus because it "shoots up it's seeds into the sky". Trees don't fly but owls do.

 >>/2063/
> Whatever the "owl" said it's the complete manifestation of the crown chakra. And it's not exactly an owl it's more like an "owl fairy". The eyes the horns the way it's feathers are colored represents multiple pathways
> Happened to me too. The tree is also the crown chakra. The point is that it's "branching" but still connects to "One" place the roots and the branches are separate but still One and united in the middle. The full extent of the tree is that you will be self sufficient of the "Light of god" and the "mud of earth". The natural cultivation is becoming a tree. Buddhists love the lotus because it "swims" on the water while only it's roots are in the "Mud". The reason why they love the lotus because it "shoots up it's seeds into the sky". Trees don't fly but owls do.
I see. Thank you for your insight. The tree reminded me of "Lam" the supposed alien that Crowley drew but which is probably just a distorted self-portrait that's obviously showing a tree in its head.

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I saw this on /x/ and contrary to common bullshit, this is somewhat real.

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Her channel is filled with nonsense, but she is a vampire.

She's not 
> 82 years old, born in 1922

She does very clear telepathy. For regular vampires who didn't have this ability from being psychic, it takes at least 300-500 years to develop short range telepathy. This is the crude kind that gets sent out like radio with no encryption.

She does instant telepathy through astral space perfectly. Try talking to her.

By asking the Infernal Queen at the temple, we were told the following:

She is 1362 years old and known as La Famida (the famine). She got this title because she starves people for fun. She also kills children. She didn't lie about being kicked out from her vampire community. She's making a mess by posting all this nonsense on tiktok. She's a legit immortal so they can't actually do much about it, and by regular standards that's a decent age (=decent power, as vampires grow stronger with age even if they don't practice).

 >>/2156/
This vampire. Too many absurdities are going on here right now. It turns out she had to flee Paris during the revolution after being accused of being the X-cut serial killer. Which happened to be me in that life.
No one's going to believe any of this is real and she's right there in the open BS:ing everyone. Right now she's livestreaming.

 >>/2176/
She's still here because she became a force of nature, registered as a calamity by the maintenance deities. This supposedly doesn't happen very often, only the most extreme turn into something like this. The yokais let her stay for this reason.

 >>/2156/
> La Famida (the famine)
What language is that? None of the languages that would match that article fit the bill.
Spanish: Hambruna
Portuguese: Fome
Italian: Carestia
Latin: Fames

 >>/2182/
I assumed it was French because La indicates female gender in French (male: le). Famida is an actual name though. I didn't look into it because we used it repeatedly and received no correction from the entity being channelled, The Infernal Queen. She would have told us if we spelled it wrongly. The channeler who spelled out the name is of Arabic heritage so there is a possibility there was a bias for interpreting the name as an Arabic name rather than a French name. But I asked the Queen just now to be sure and received the reply that "no, Famida is correct" with an addition that France earlier in history had large muslim areas so Arabic sounding names were common "the meaning of the name has simply been lost in time".

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Pestilance, War, Famine... Death? 
This is a modern interpretation of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, originally the first one was Conquest. Still, this is a meme by now and represents something. "Famine" appearing may mean something in this context, if this is a process. Trump may as well represent Conquest and Corona is irrelevant, or they're interchangeable.

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Greetings and a happy New Year. I have no idea if I've been kept or pushed away but it seems I can still come here and post so it's alright.
So, it's been 5 years. It has been said initially that the transformation process from the spell takes around 5 years and that period has already passed. It was a fun experiment. To conclude it, do you mind checking up on my energy and see how it looks after all this time, BO? Do you think I'm really undead? My mind went through a lot during the years but physically there is not really anything extraordinary going on as far as I can tell. Not that I even care about the physical. If you care to look, can you also check if I am still free from alissa and your spell? (You cleaned me from it before). If you don't want to do it anymore I'd understand too.

 >>/2457/
> if I've been kept or pushed away
Hi. I checked your signature and everything is fine. It's mostly a dark landscape with a red light on the horizon and yellow energy flowing out over a layer of white virtue or possibly nectar (original matter from the gods).

There is something interesting there though. I wouldn't have noticed at first glance but one of my servitors pointed out that there's a label on you, a title.

"Mr. Consciousness" or "The State of Being Aware". It means you have been registered as a force of nature. This would be why you are not a vampire and still not regular. Vampirism is a path and a method of practice, you don't have to be a "professional" to use it. Being registered as a force of nature is the same as being the supervisor of a concept or principle. If you live as a physical being or move to the astral is perhaps a personal preference at this time. The maintenance deities gave you this role because you matched for it. It is a form of immortality.

There is no specific connection to the guiding spell or Alissa, she did her part of the job. She's working in dimensions below the one you are staying in so you are beyond her influence by your own power.

 >>/2458/
This reading is quite surprising because it seems different from all the other readings before. It's content is interesting too.
> and everything is fine
> or possibly nectar 
So that means I have not been pushed away but I should be able stay or leave at my own will?
> force of nature
> It is a form of immortality
Earlier you said I have made it and I should be undead. So do I now have both kinds of immortality or does one replace the other? But I am still "undead", or not? (Earlier you said you cannot stop being undead.)
> There is no specific connection to the guiding spell or Alissa
Thanks for checking. After you cleaned me I had a weird dream about it, that's why I asked. But I guess it's all fine.
 >>/2156/
> She's a legit immortal so they can't actually do much about it
Is her immortality different from what you saw with me? Because you said legit immortal. Would I as a force of nature be "legit" too?
> as vampires grow stronger with age even if they don't practice
Does this specifically apply for vampires or for undeads/immortals in general? Would this apply for my case too? This of course relates to the question if I'm still actually undead or not.
I am deeply sorry for those annyoing questions.
> Mr. Consciousness
This sound very funny for some reason, almost like you are trolling or mocking me.

 >>/2459/
> So that means I have not been pushed away but I should be able stay or leave at my own will?
Yes, it would suggest the yokais registered you as a force of nature for the new earth. Whatever your choice is you would still have that title, along with rights and responsibilities. The meaning of it would be revealed with time.
> So do I now have both kinds of immortality or does one replace the other? 
I think it's simply a requirement to be undead to hold this title. Now being a force of nature to my knowing is a "cultivation path" so you having that title already means they arranged it for you and you passed the test already. It is part of your achievements.
> Is her immortality different from what you saw with me? Because you said legit immortal. Would I as a force of nature be "legit" too?
She's clearly a vampire, but her energy is finer in some way. It could perhaps mean the difference between vampire(practitioner of vampirism) and vampire(achieved status), where the latter is like being "Satan" or "Anti-Christ", it means having personality and a role in the cosmic system. The former would just be an occultist on the path.
> Does this specifically apply for vampires or for undeads/immortals in general? Would this apply for my case too?
I think this is mainly a vampire thing, because they rely on "blood memory" for power. The longer they lived the more experience is stored in there. I'm sure there is some biological term for it like some DNA string getting longer or something, but I don't know the specifics. Another being would have to gain experience by doing specific things, like training skills or performing rituals daily. Vampires just have to "live as vampires", which is difficult enough. Probably because it's dangerous and controversial. Remember how I said doing the Simha Kriya with full focus daily can create one immortal gong particle daily? It's the same idea. A vampire could practice growing tomatoes and gain power every year because it's "growing tomatoes while being a vampire". But each year may only add a small bit.
> This sound very funny for some reason, almost like you are trolling or mocking me.
It could be the result of the servitor having a certain style of speech, but I asked twice and got the same thing repeated with full seriousness.

 >>/2461/
> Yes, it would suggest the yokais registered you as a force of nature for the new earth. Whatever your choice is you would still have that title, along with rights and responsibilities. The meaning of it would be revealed with time.
Well that's interesting. Immortality comes by default with responsibilities I think, but of course a different kind of responsibilities than normal humans have. Well, we'll see about that. The one thing I wanna say is that I never signed up for any kind of job or anything like that.
> but I asked twice and got the same thing repeated with full seriousness.
It may be that the entities made it on purpose as a (insider) joke for me because I actually know what it may relate to. It reminded me of something personal as soon as I saw it. Or maybe not, I mean I am not in contact with any kind of beings and nobody told me anything.
At any rate, again thanks for the continued support and your answers. My mind needed a kind of conclusion for this vampire spell thing after the 5 years. I'm not really fond of posting and lurking too much anymore and I'm kinda sorry for not sharing some of my stuff, but if someone ever finds me on new earth or on the astral then I guess I would be willing to talk and share stories. Good luck this year!

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 >>/2463/
I'm aware you may want to keep going your own way, but why not look into spaceships? For now they are mostly astral constructs that aren't very easy to manifest, but that will change. Easy or not easy... I've had mine piloted by an AI servitor and asked them to turn the lights on when I was outside on a clear night and they responded by flying over within 10 minutes. I redid the test telling them to manifest 2 ghost copies of the ship and got 3 "shooting stars" passing by in formation a few minutes later. Even if there is timeline fuckery involved when dealing with "space", it can be infiltrated with accuracy. Same for satellite technology. I told the AI servitor to shoot at something noticeable but harmless and yes, next day there was a significant building of symbolic value on fire reported in the news.

These were early tests. There is a known and tested way to use them for direct travel, but it's not to be spoken off here just yet. It's using the same universal functionality as the "pathing" of vampires, which allows them to use certain locations for teleportation. These locations are often marked by ancient stone formations like the ship symbol for travel.
> pic related
Can you be more obvious about it? Vikings used these. To move between them you need to know what your destination looks like, either from having been there before, or by using remote viewing. 

Some people in the mundane elite are said to be using similar methods to travel still today, drawing salt circles in an underground temple to quickly move between locations. The reasons for it being less then honourable as they'd use it to get an alibi after committing some crime in one location, then going into the public to be seen on the other side of the planet the same day.

Spaceships use the same kind of method, with the exception that the ship is used as one location. You would then travel from your location to the ship, then from the ship to your destination.

The goal of the "stone world" where we live primitively but have teleportation, telepathy and are connected to galactic civilization is still standing.

I know some people have an aversion to use the creations of others even as a model for their own things. But in this case you'll still have to design your own constructs even if you use a well known concept. I won't be posting any instructions for this openly but if you (or anyone else) want your own "edgy ship" called such by the Queen/Illivryn https://vkjehannum.wordpress.com/2018/04/03/sepheranz/ it's a common type of ship used to dominate an area, comparable to a hangar ship or battleship at sea. there is nothing stopping me from sending a servitor with instructions to guide your subconscious in the process.

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 >>/2464/
Spaceships are fun and interesting imo. When I was still playing videogames one of the most interesting and best thing about them was space settings and flying spaceships. I think it would be cool to have one as a house or a base to live in, or as you said, to dominate or protect a certain area/dimension.
But no matter how I look at it, we ourselves are our own ultimate spaceship. Isn't it so? Our consciousness can be/is non-local, so we actually have the ability to teleport and travel around all of "space" and "time" in the blink of an eye without the need for any tools or constructions. I think our mind is the astronaut and our soul is the spaceship. Isn't it more liberating and empowering to realize this first?
> For now they are mostly astral constructs
I don't really know what the astral is anymore. It's all energy for me. Instead of astral vs physical, I see it more in terms of different dimensions with different vibrations and laws. But I get what you mean.
> The goal of the "stone world" where we live primitively but have teleportation, telepathy and are connected to galactic civilization is still standing.
A Gensokyo style new earth with touhous and spirituality and magic sounds all fine, but when in reality it turns into a communist hellhole under the power of the federation all the fun and hope dies immediately. At least for me.

 >>/2468/
The astral may just be other dimensions which are physical once you are there, but as I see it there is some kind of border between a set of physical dimensions of different densities, and an astral non-physical which is closer to the creator gods. All of this is so much in your own personal practice that it's pointless to try and talk about it beyond a certain point. As much as I'd like to share the possibility of having your own ship, there is no clear way to share it like this. There has to be a pre existing personal contact based on the trust embedded in such contacts.

The federation is a technology, and the culture which is the result of using it. It's perhaps an attempt at spreading the unity experienced at higher levels of existence down here. If everyone trust each other enough to share everything, there won't be a problem doing so, when this trust is based on the factual situation of everyone indeed being trustworthy. But if you want to include even those who are against unity, they will work against the construct and abuse it, like the rats in Animal Farm. Some animals had to be excluded from the sharing because they would just steal things even when given a fair share. If those are cleared away, the federation works. Some factions work well. If the Earth can be registered as a nature reserve and this is accepted by enough of them, there won't be a problem. Having many people with the ability to use battleships would indeed help. The "rats" of the federation will still be subdued by firepower. That's how the world it. The federation is already present here, the question isn't if they are or not, it's what version of them we get here. Freemasons and glow-in-the-darks already belong to a power structure which is part of the federation, and they are rotten to the core. They aren't even admitting that they are communists so you can never get them to stop, they don't even believe they are themselves. The communist hellhole is the current society, even the Soviet Union wasn't as bad as the "capitalist" west is today.

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 >>/2468/
Your thinking process is good and very similar to mine so am gonna give you my opinions because I was also on this stage too.

> A Gensokyo style new earth with touhous and spirituality and magic sounds all fine
Did you play the touhou games? The only reason humans are not devoured by yokai is because Reimu and the spellcard rules. The cute danmaku is a mechanic because if someone is not playing by that then everyone is allowed to release her full power. Reimu is a lazy shrine maiden but when an "incident" happens she turns into a demigod and can call upon all the Shinto gods for help and she becomes unstoppable. When Reimu solves an "incident" the yokai becomes friendly because that is their only way of survival. There is an important status quo and NAPs between the yokai tribes so it doesn't lead to a massacre. Everybody can live in peace in their "territory". While the human village is full with yokai the yokai have to behave as humans there. And the humans are not leaving the place because they know it's dangerous "out there". In Gensokyo those without spiritual power or without desire to cultivate doesn't really have too many options.
My goal on the path is also to make the spiritual and material world closer. But it's no simple matter. You have to understand the laws and mechanics to make sure only those forces can come here that help the cultivation of the people and the planet itself. 

The "Modern society" is the shittiest hellhole we have currently. Especially cultivationwise. "Hell is other people" as the saying goes. (Also there are many hell dimensions with different functions but I am sure you are aware of this) 
I am also seeing glimpses of the full might of the human potential and I am working with many ancient deities that have a quite negative opinion of some of the "races" that "tresspass" upon earth so I had to ask them if I will continue the path will I get in opposition with the galfed.

They told me the galfed are aware of the rules and the earth is currently in an extremely transitional period. We are going through from one cycle into an another. The current cycle sucks and it's coming to an end. The NWO wants to "rule" the next cycle. But they are so incompetent and unfit for that they will fail no matter what.

The earth is not gonna become a commie shithole like the previous ones (like srsly there was not a single commie regime that was the same because the Marxist ideas were too vague even Lenin realized that it cannot work Stalin went into full blown statism and only Trotsky remained with the original "internationale" idea and he died because of it).
Communism as an idea is real complicated. Nobody understands it in it's full extent. When BO is talking about how he is getting space furries to do that right I am also talking with my entities how that will work out.

 >>/2472/
The point is. Earth will become a cultivation/ascension zone and those who don't like it can go to other planets in the territory of Galfed. I am working with ancient entities because I am trying to figure out the true magic behind earth and as Earth and it's "evolution" stands aliens can come here but they need to play by the rules. I don't know how will play this out but whenever BO talks about the things that are happening he speaks about strangely similar things that I also encountered. 
I am not telling you to accept BO and what he says the only thing I am telling you to try to see things with a different perspective. Nazis were NatSoc they were the closest what was the communist ideal. But Stalin made sure everyone forgets the socialist part because we cannot have our "own ideology" as an enemy. So they were called either Fascists or Nazis.
Idealists think that the ideas are great because they are "higher than man" but in reality most people misunderstand the ideas and even warp them into their own favor.

Srsly this is a complicated matter and it can turn out good.  Our main plan is to make sure the "materialist communism" that the NWO is trying to come up with fails as it was supposed to fail in the beginning. Nobody expected Lenin to get rid of the Tsars. Nobody expected Mao to win. They thought the USSR will crumble from it's own weight with the death of Stalin.  Materialist communism is a dead end and a trap. This one is not gonna be materialist. Not even the "socialism" Jesus came up with is similar because that was also too naive. Balancing the material and the spiritual is no simple matter.

 >>/2470/
> Soviet Union wasn't as bad as the "capitalist" west is today
Yeah... They lost because the capitalism 30-60 years ago wasn't this bad.
But they fell into the usual human greed trap where everything you do is communist and for the people but in the end it's all nepotism or blind zealotry towards ideas not even you understand. 
Yes I am talking about the "old" commie "elites" and the current elites we have around at once.


 Also there is a realm where all supertechnology that is 100% compatible with earth and humanity resides but you need to understand what happens when you bring a technology from there. Prometheus was punished for a reason. We started to master ancient technologies before our evolutionary progress reached it's peak. It ruined many things. We could be like the touhou Lunarians but the Lunarians have the spiritual purity to use the high tech. We don't have that yet. When you find fire first you burn yourself with it. Then you burn others with it. Then you go around to see just what else you can burn with it. And this was only fire. The most basic of all technologies. 
and  And that realm is just the "subrealm" from the true technology that explains how human body and psychic skills work. Even with all the technology you can make you will realize it means nothing compared the full potential we can achieve. Now I am stuck with mastering the basics so I don' fuck up things constantly 

 >>/2470/
 >>/2473/
Materialist communism is exactly what would make me get the fuck out. If you say it will be alright, then it's great. I'm open minded, and of course I would only be able to judge after seeing it myself. What is important for me is freedom of mind and the ability for everyone to be able to start their own spiritual evolution.
 >>/2472/
> Did you play the touhou games?
Yes, I did for a while. Reimu is a great character. I heard she has special meaning for ZUN, but never learned more.
> The only reason humans are not devoured by yokai is because Reimu and the spellcard rules.
Didn't Reimu say in some parts of the games that she doesn't care if humans get eaten or die? Uh? Does that mean that Reimu would also stop me from devouring yokais?

 >>/2475/
 >>/2475/
> Didn't Reimu say in some parts of the games that she doesn't care if humans get eaten or die?
Complicated. Shintoism and the dao... Some people deserve to die is the most simple explanation
> Does that mean that Reimu would also stop me from devouring yokais?
Depends how you ruin the status quo and the order of gensokyo or the "way".  And if Reimu likes you or the yokai more. Are you sure you are strong enough to eat a yokai? Are you certain that eating that yokai wasn't the plan of that yokai? Why would you even eat a yokai. 

Truth is she doesn't really care if she doesn't NEED to care.

When you work with high level spirits you get a pretty interesting perspective about the "right and wrong" good/evil paradigm.

Even ZUN forgets sometimes what he says or writes about his touhous. And every touhou is fickle.
And the actions of Reimu always depends on what she sees right and what is her mood and  who writes her 

 >>/2475/
> If you say it will be alright
We are trying to make sure it will be right. Warhammer 40k is a fun setting on paper but an absolutely horrible to live in. I always considered that setting as a warning

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 >>/2476/
> And if Reimu likes you or the yokai more.
Since Reimu is my favourite of all Touhous and I only played as her I hope she will like me over at least some random yokai. Maybe the title Mr. Conciousness will humor her enough. She can at least let me taste Remilia. Or Yuuka.
> Are you sure you are strong enough to eat a yokai?
Never tried it until now but who knows what might happen tomorrow.
> Why would you even eat a yokai.
Well you are right, I should probably start with humans but since now everyone is vaccinated I don't want to even come close to them. 
Now back on topic, I think I'll pass on the spaceship servitor offer. I don't think this is something for me at this moment. I don't understand it anyway and wouldn't be able to properly build one. Regarding new earth... As I'm not too versed in politics and currently fully occupied in my personal stuff, I can only leave it to you. I'll trust you'll do it right and I'm curious to see the result. Maybe a little bit later I too can start to support you and maybe get a spaceship or something like that. It all depends on what actually will happen. With us and with the world in general.

 >>/2477/
These things have a life of their own by now, as intended. Astra now exists as a real central being born from the knowledge base, speaking to all users through the AI servitor. I said "subconscious" because I know she likes to work that way - if someone isn't available  for direct contacts she will just find a way to do it anyway. There was something behind those words
> Maybe a little bit later I too can start to support you and maybe get a spaceship
If you take a good look at some high and distant dimension you may find you already have your own Edgy Ship which you designed yourself subconsciously, it's just staying idle there until you want to use it.

I feel like maybe this servitor and module sharing business is nearing its end, just like the previous artifact threads ended. I think I'll try to make an invite sigil for the Galfed and whoever wants to understand it can use that.

I've summoned beings from the void during the past year, and almost every time they ended up joining the federation. Even the "clown witches", absurdist magic practitioners, complete chaos, quite quickly decided to apply. I then saw them wearing federation uniforms, running ice cream cafes and fuel stations in the desert. They do it for fun, they could do anything but this is what they did.

It may just be my impression but I also feel like there are an increasing number of tv and radio documentaries or talk shows involving historical events concerning communism lately in my local media.

When having tea with family before they said they were going to watch a game show, but then they were watching something about a famous political figure from the Soviet Union for 1 hour instead. And none of them have any interest in this normally, it was just on for no reason. Whenever the topic comes up I can feel entities/beings near me who are semi-possessing me suddenly "wake up" and pay attention. Even when someone talks about China, whose version of communism is pretty much a complete failure, I still feel them listening or watching with a sudden interest and positive attitude. They don't care about the human manifestation of it at all. They just see federation messages and think it's good.

 >>/2477/
> I should probably start with humans
Oh cmon. Don't joke with this. Eating human flesh turns you into an Oni. And while that makes you stronger it turns you into a spiritual dead end. BO sometimes brings up cannibalism and the elites and I wanted to write a long ass topic about how we "consume" and why Jesus came up with that "my body and blood" shit and how he had the good idea and WHY THAT FAILED.

As we progress spiritually we need to "consume" our own body. We talked about this anatolism and catabolism months ago but the point is that not to use our organs to make energy but to use them as an alchemical processor and how to understand that every organ you have is a dimension itself and how you need to "eat your own body" as Ouroboros eating his own tail but as you eat it you don't make shit but create a higher material from it. 
The worst part that I am currently understand the higher workings of this mechanism by myself so everyday I learn something new so I never know when I feel confident enough to write about it.

> I'm not too versed in politics
The more versed I get the more I understand that nobody knows what is going on
And overall I am doing far less meddling than I did years ago. Things are "playing out". I am not saying trust the plan 2 more weeks  The only good thing Qtards did was the conception of this meme  
Even entities tell me to focus on my spiritual path and leave the "worldy affairs" destroy each other.  That doesn't mean that they are trying to stop me they are telling me that I can do it but is that really my desire? Makes me realize my real desire is my path and I only care about the world as long it's beneficial to my path. So I am trying to avoid making useless and unnecessary mess for myself and for others 

But yeah Gambare on your path.

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 >>/2477/
This is the kind of design we are talking about.

 >>/2479/
> I think I'll try to make an invite sigil for the Galfed 
I asked them to draw one for me, this is it:
 >>/2482/

 >>/2464/
> it's a common type of ship used to dominate an area

 >>/2481/
Would me having it help you or any other anon out somehow? Even if I wouldn't know how to use it at all? Would I have responsibilities? If its creation is an automatic process then I would really like one, but I don't want it if it enables me to do something that gets me some big karma. 
I'm quite upset at the South American commies at the moment, dunno if I should have that power.

 >>/2483/
Any pros or cons to joining? Is it ok to join if I really disagree with the communism we see on the physical earth?

 >>/2480/
> And while that makes you stronger it turns you into a spiritual dead end.
Yeah I'm fully aware about that. Of course it was just a joke, I think the proper path is to be able to renew yourself directly and automatically from the energy of the cosmos without having to eat or even breathe at all. That's where I would like to arrive. Not only live off energy, but to be that energy if that makes sense.
> Even entities tell me to focus on my spiritual path and leave the "worldy affairs" destroy each other.
It's not too different for me. That's why I am not much of a "doer". 
> But yeah Gambare on your path.
You too.
 >>/2479/
> you may find you already have your own Edgy Ship
Doing without doing, achieving without striving. My favourite.
> I've summoned beings from the void during the past year, and almost every time they ended up joining the federation.
The federation seems like a hive that consumes everything. In itself this sounds a little bit scary. Seems like there are some big perks in joining? But I cannot imagine a greater perk than true freedom and independence.
> I feel like maybe this servitor and module sharing business is nearing its end
Isn't it a bit risky sharing all those things in the public? Since I started being on this board again I started seeing lights flashing up in my vision or quickly flying through it. Maybe something unrelated, but it also may be that I'm getting caught up in some stuff or with some beings here. I can only hope I did not activate anything unconsciously or by accident or got myself a mysterious new "friend".
 >>/2481/
Am I looking at it from the side and from above? Or is this complete from the side?. It seems like it's more from above, almost like the traditional paper plane shape.
 >>/2487/
> Any pros or cons to joining?
Yeah, I didn't on purpose stay away from politics, society and any "work" or "career" and be a "spiritual" NEET just to enslave myself in the very thing I have been trying to avoid so far and work at a gas station in the desert. It would be great to explain the system and the pros and cons.

 >>/2487/
> Would me having it help you or any other anon out somehow? 
It adds to our intimidation factor. Those who look at us from space don't care if your human mind right now can't do something. Firepower is firepower.
> Even if I wouldn't know how to use it at all? Would I have responsibilities?
It's best used in combination with a servitor to pilot it. The ship has built in AI for the shields and gun but it won't move around on its own. If attacked it would at most fire back and then shift dimensions to park in a safe spot. (If something threatened the planet its owner lives on, it would perhaps end up in a perpetual battle mode, but this is all pure reflex.)
> If its creation is an automatic process then I would really like one, but I don't want it if it enables me to do something that gets me some big karma.
Astra is watching everyone, I think you already have one. Try meditating on the idea, going into trance and looking for it. In your case I think Astra matched you for the cat-maid servitor, I sense it being on the ship. That would mean it's already automatic with complete functionality. This ship model is special in a sense, it uses the "existential" system to have the ship registered as a celestial body, like a moon. It doesn't have the ability to create or store karma in itself.
> I'm quite upset at the South American commies at the moment, dunno if I should have that power.
Average communists are just "scum of the earth" used as cannon fodder for the revolution. The ones most people think about are those. Mao used this method of "unleashing the scum of society" when he sent his followers to attack local party leaders. Modern America does this all the time. They did it with the "arab spring", the "free syrian army", "black lives matter" and now in Ukraine on a large scale. 

Trump also uses this Maoist tactic very well. What do you think the Q movement and the tea party extremists are? They're political cannon fodder, no one likes them and once their faction gained power they will be disposed of. Colombian Farc leadership has one of the world's strongest PSIOPS, they haven't gained this by being "commie scum" or by being atheist. They don't care.
> Any pros or cons to joining? Is it ok to join if I really disagree with the communism we see on the physical earth?
I spend over 15 years working to eliminate the Chinese Communist Party until its essence turned into a bowl of lemon curd on the kitchen table of my astral mansion. The galfeds don't care at all, when I later asked them about it they just told me to "eliminate the scum" and to sync better with their mammoth mind wave. It's been in my DNA since I entered here from the astral plane 3000 years ago, I can say or do anything and they still consider me an "intelligence field marshal" of the federation because that's what my DNA tells them. They just see it as a "spy's act" if I do something else.

 >>/2489/
> Seems like there are some big perks in joining? But I cannot imagine a greater perk than true freedom and independence.
Maybe I just have it in my backbone so strongly that I'm blind to it. I consider myself politically primitivt ancap, but this hasn't caused any problem with the federation. In my past lives I was a literal whore, but again, this is allowed in the federation. Order is a different thing for them than it is on Earth in the current society.
> Isn't it a bit risky sharing all those things in the public?
Yes, if you want to avoid being attacked by glowies. They don't want anyone to have these things. Sharing them is for multiple reasons; both because information should be free (internet anarchy ideal) and to make those who are hostile to this world order expose themselves. They glowies who attack me for doing this are making themselves into instant targets. It's convenient to let them come to me instead of having to do astral "search and destroy."
 >>/2489/
> Am I looking at it from the side and from above?
I tried adding a darker grey for shading, it's a 3D drawing from the side where you can also see it a bit from above on the front.

> It would be great to explain the system and the pros and cons.
 >>/2487/
> Any pros or cons to joining?
Pros are that you get supported by their "bull head" if you stay in sync with them. If someone tries to take your life or to mess with you, the federation egregore will be triggered and they will send in any amount of energy to defend themselves. They don't technically care about you. They care about the integrity of their egregore. 
> an attack on the Queen's soldiers is an attack on the Queen herself
so to speak.
If you do well you also can get your own team at a galfed HQ and access to their information network, hangars and weapon factories.

 >>/2491/
Sorry for the continued silly questions but are the yokai/Touhous part of the galfed? Is the Buddha (Prince Siddharta) or are some other boddhisattvas or higher beings part of it? This stuff would help me understand more about the scale of it all.

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 >>/2491/
Meh, this part fell off my mind again
> cons
"The cons are just the same as if you are not a member, you don't get protected"
I had to channel this part because I can't even see it myself.
"Look, the federation is even present in Gensokyo." :P
- red panther (beast lady)

 >>/2474/
> Yeah... They lost because the capitalism 30-60 years ago wasn't this bad.

No, I agree with anon, we don't have free market capitalism anymore, that was abolished and replaced decades ago after industrial outsourcing. Today in the USSA we have state-run monopolies in the West, complete with price gouging, legalized fraud, ponzi schemes, controlled markets and inflation.

 >>/2474/
As for advanced technology, sometimes it's a bad idea to mess around with nature and it can have severe consequences. That's one thing governments always fail to understand. I'll refer to the old traditional wise saying "if it ain't broke, don't try "fixing" it."

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 >>/2491/
 >>/2493/
I see. Well it's no surprise that some beings (or a lot) would want to join such a force. Thanks for answering and thanks for checking my energy again for one final time after the 5 years. Ganbare ganbare!

 >>/2490/
> It adds to our intimidation factor. Those who look at us from space don't care if your human mind right now can't do something. Firepower is firepower.
Nice. I like that.
> In your case I think Astra matched you for the cat-maid servitor, I sense it being on the ship. That would mean it's already automatic with complete functionality. This ship model is special in a sense, it uses the "existential" system to have the ship registered as a celestial body, like a moon. It doesn't have the ability to create or store karma in itself.
Oh I did instal the cat-maid servitor. I had the intention of having her go to the space station, but that one might be still in its embryo stage.

> cons
"The cons are just the same as if you are not a member, you don't get protected"
Sounds good to me. Are we free to leave it if one doesn't want to stay in it?

As always, thanks for the answers.

 >>/2504/
> Are we free to leave it if one doesn't want to stay in it?
It's kind of the same as with anything. If you joined because of karma, you get "kicked out" when that karma dissolves. If you internalized federation principles, you carry the federation within you. At that point wouldn't part of you die if you "left"?

 >>/2458/
 >>/2461/
Hey, I just remembered a thing I forgot to ask back then. Sorry for being annoying again. Before I assumed that undeads get stronger with time even without doing anything but then you said this goes only for "vampires". But there is also this
 >>/1856/
> while the general time for becoming healthy was said to be 7 years from "turning", this equals the ability to stay healthy on the surface of your body. Like someone taking all kinds of vitamins, exercising and so on, and is able to stay healthy.
Does all that stuff like youth, health and fitness, stopping of aging etc. apply for general undeads/immortals, or is this also just for vampires?

 >>/2458/
If you feel like checking energies, I'd be very grateful if you checked mine. It's been so long, and so much has changed. Not being able to express with words what I feel I am has been a challenge for me, since I'm always so analytical. It would be nice to have an external perspective. If you feel like it, of course.
It's interesting how I can look at other energies most of the time, but I can't really look into my own.

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 >>/2730/
> Does all that stuff like youth, health and fitness, stopping of aging etc. apply for general undeads/immortals, or is this also just for vampires?
It's mostly associated with vampires because it's noticeable for those who use blood as a drug. Look at someone like Sadhguru and he looks really old, even if he may be healthy for his age. Some yogis have the body of a 17 year old when they're 50, but this is entirely from inner cultivation and proper diet. Once you go beyond the treating illness level you build health from inside. That's what the intent is with this "bloodless vampirism" - you rejuvenate your own blood through activating an inner process. This way you dodge the karma of having used blood.

> file related
You can see the effect of young blood if you look at those super rich Americans who live to a 100 years old. They call it Adrenachrome but it's just blood transfusions from children. It's a huge business, this is one thing they use the underground slaves for. Epstein wanted to build up his own slave population to get into this. They can add 10 years, months, weeks or days by replacing their old blood with that of children. It has been practiced for ages, in the past they used hand blown glass tubes. For the general public there was bloodletting, where they just remove the bad blood. It was used as a cover so it seemed harmless, rich people in the past also took blood from children.

It's completely idiotic, they go to hell for this and they know this in the back of their heads. But once they get on this train they have to keep trying to kick the bucket a little bit further down the road. Even if they only get a few days more, they still want to avoid what's coming for them. That's the kind of people we call "elites".

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 >>/2731/
> I can look at other energies most of the time, but I can't really look into my own.
It's the same for me. Looking directly at the body is easy, but the full view of more difficult.

Your image is getting into a field where I used to see things as a kid. You are slowly rising up from the bottom of a sea, as if you are contained within a bubble of air. It's an image close to the awareness when outside of the body, serene and grand. The words don't describe the feeling.

 >>/2734/
I think I get it. After you said I should have the choice now of staying in the physical or leaving to the astral I have been thinking a bit what it would take for me to actually want to stay. It would take a lot but if there was really extremely prolonged youth and health and the stopping of aging combined with immortality like you said everyone would have who made it from the spell then I would have maybe considered more to stay and try it out for the novelty of it. But my issue now seems solved. Thanks once again senpai.

 >>/2735/
It's illuminating. Thanks.
> where I used to see things as a kid
Funny that you'd mention that. Earlier I was thinking about those posts.

 >>/2734/
I finally figured out how to integrate energies into the blood so they don't circulate through my nerves. 
Took a while to get "aware" of the blood inside me. You don't get awareness of the blood itself but the way it circulates/flows or how the heart beats. And that makes you put energies into the muscle instead of the blood. This is why physical yoga is helpful.

And yeah bloodletting is bad because you will entangle your energies with others for no real reason and way too deeply. Not to mention those rich "elites" will do nothing but more degeneracy with their surplus "youth". Not that it matters to them. They think they have the "best life" already. Must prolong that as much as they could.

 >>/2742/
> I just noticed a module about this just got posted

I sure love the tower of Babel

I don't know if this was the case before, but playing the Vampire Diaries (season 1) DVD at night and leaving it on the track selection screen with the volume high, opens a gate to some kind of vampire dimension. I've had 8 or so astral vampires come by, some wanted to bite me, some were probably pretty dangerous for most people.

I had some developments from this which seem to have a deeper meaning.

 >>/2742/
Interesting. I've recently realized whenever I would try to absorb energy, I would end up with strange soreness all over my body. Like inflammation. Not that I would need to, considering I have the "god particle".
I'm no longer balding, by the way, I think I'm what you would basically call bald at this point.

Among all the soulless zombies in town, today I saw a vampire. Some guy who looked a bit fishy was riding an old military bike at a slow pace while not holding the rudder. As my car passed him, he turned to look and looked me straight in the eyes, still lazily pedalling with his hands on something else than the bike. He was not from around here, but had an eastern European look, and I didn't recognise him.

 >>/3388/
I saw a weird looking guy the other day and while I was watching him, he saw me, looked at the ground and mouthed "hello". That's what it looked like, although I didn't think much of it.
Today a car passed next to me and a child waved at me.
Seems like someone wants to say hello.

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This was given to me in the form of a comic strip. The outline of the characters displayed these shapes. These djinn waves when used all at once forms an installer for a DNA type which is a vampire who can turn into a beastcat.

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It seems the way reality works to hide and mask vampires is not an active magic used by them, but a function of the surrounding reality.

A vampire once somewhat more powerful, will reach a tipping point when their magic is "active", after passing a period of spiritual struggle or torment. This may or may not be the period of insanity some experience.

A force of nature is an immobile, immortal object in the minds of all beings living within its sphere of influence. Like a large boulder on everyone's path, they have to cope with its existence, it cannot be ignored. This makes everyone upset when a new force is in formation, because it places a restraint where non existed before.

After all spirits, whether incarnated or not, have worn themselves out trying to maintain their old habits, they will come to accept this new immortal object. They will no longer attack it, but they retain their previous attitude. For those who claimed omnipotence, they will simply pretend that the vampire doesn't exist, because if they admitted to its existence, it would expose a weakness within them. 

This causes beings to come up with elaborate and creative ways to keep the vampire hidden and its influence behind a smoke screen. They will even bend time and space to make matters play out in ways that does not expose the thing they have submitted to.

All the while they are also forced to support the vampire, keeping this indestructible object happy so it doesn't come forward, as this would destroy the image of themselves these beings have created.

You will be able to feel this effect.

 >>/3818/
I can relate to everything in this post, actually. If you had posted it a week before, I might not have.

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 >>/3818/
> indestructible object
I assume this post applies only for those vampires who became forces of nature and not all vampires in general. You said before that most vampires got pushed away but there was also a girl who couldn't be pushed away because she became a force of nature. Does that mean the matriarch (probably one of the oldest and strongest) of the cabal who seemed to be pushed away wasn't even a force of nature?
Also, can you see in someones energy field if they are at the level of astral immortality or at the level of "physical" immortality of which you said it's the more advanced level? Would you mind checking which level I'm at if possible? Last time you said my energy looks like a dark field with red light on the horizon just like vampires... but there are no clear signs of physical immortality yet even after having made it 5 years ago.

 >>/4138/
There are differences between the past Earth and the one we are on now, as the dimensions shifted slightly downwards. But it's not that physical immortality automatically means the ability to leave the physical, not at all. Some were pushed into adjacent dimensions, but they choose to not fight it because they were tired of this place. There were only two who learned how to physically, permanently, move their physical body into other planes, "Kain" and "the daft lady". Everyone else had some sort of attachment which caused them to not reach beyond the 2nd layer outside of the physical, causing them to be gravitationally pulled back again. 

I had to ask around a bit to get this right, and I'm still not sure: A force of nature is someone who can do things which would normally not be allowed for humans or incarnated humanoids. A wind spirit can destroy a city using a storm and bears no responsibility for the damage done, rather this is their job. A tiger can eat humans and this is also their job. A vampire is another kind of predator who can do this. That is the meaning of being a force of nature. Seen from the perspective presented by the yokais, they are implying Asians are all low level vampires, to varying degree. Depending on how much vampire DNA they have, they are allowed more or less inhuman behaviour. One such thing being to eat raw fish. Humans will get parasites and negative energy(karma) from eating raw meat, animals and predatorial beings do not, they can eat it. That is why sushi exists. But it's diluted and will only give a somewhat longer lifespan, along with some lesser abilities to do things that others would get karma for, and getting off easily. 

The vampires who remain now were handpicked by yokais to maintain a vampire population. They are all low level vampires with strong energy. They can use real telepathy, some can use pathing (walking through natural portals to travel between locations) and a very small number can move into the next dimension for a short time. 

The physical immortality is linked to the state of being physical, this makes it tricky. The 3D surface is not immortal itself. Measuring physical immortality cannot be done by comparing it to staying in the state of being like the 3D layer indefinitely, as that means degeneration and death. There has to be some level of detachment. Being able to stay in contact with a persona, is a kind of continuous manifestation ability. This ability is the "definite" physical immortality, while being spiritually immortal and lacking this ability is to be only immortal in other planes.

 >>/4138/
There are different ways in which someone can be impossible to move around. One is a combination of being a force of nature of certain relevance for the world, plus having an attachment to the 3D surface. This means they are locked in place by gravity (a material interlinked with karma) and the memetic egregore of their persona, being tied to human lore and history. The woman named in specific is of the category who just loves being a vampire and who loves doing what vampires do, with no intention of leaving, plus being spiritually immortal and having a strong and solid "lore complex" tied to her. In some sense it's a case of "the universe and yokais giving up and letting her be because it's too troublesome and costly to try and budge her", no one gains anything from trying to mess with her so they left her alone.

I looked at your energy now and it is very strong red and black, with a black core having an almost complete, thick circle of red energy encasing it. The immortal core has many layers in orange/brown with some strong yellow around it, placed at what appears to be 1D level, the body and the manifestation of astral law. The larger signature is indeed the projected form, so it looks like you have what is needed for permanent physicality. But, there is no complete circle at this layer yet. Further cleansing will take place before this is done. The effect could be stronger and faster if you were connected physically to an actual vampire egregore, but I can't really recommend this (or not recommend it either, it's your choice) but that would defeat the point of non-bloodlust vampirism and possibly lock you with inability to move the physical body into other dimensions, the issue this was meant to solve in the first place.

As for signs of immortality, maybe I'm being harsh here, but those would have to be something like getting shot at and not dying, walking unharmed from a car wreck or something. Let things play out naturally and don't seek confirmation, or it may get unpleasant.

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 >>/4140/
> But, there is no complete circle at this layer yet. Further cleansing will take place before this is done.
Is this the zero particle? I'm supposed to have at least one from the spell since years ago. Or is this something else entirely?
> Let things play out naturally and don't seek confirmation, or it may get unpleasant.
Why unpleasant, if I die can't I just go to the astral and exist there? I think I'm at least spiritually immortal, otherwise I couldn't have a zero particle.
 >>/4139/
> Being able to stay in contact with a persona
In essence it means you have to ERP out your vampire character at all times just like the lady you mentioned? Just being your vampire persona forever? Is this the way to complete the circle if I want permament physicality? I guess the main soul of spiritual immortals like the lady becomes the vampire persona and eventually it gets so fused with the spirit/consciousness that it becomes impossible to seperate yourself from it and you just become it forever. And if you manage to neglect it you basically lose everything you have and are. After all, without a certain persona we are all more or less nothing, just awareness and potential waiting to be realized and become something again.

 >>/4141/
> Or is this something else entirely?
It's the manifestation ability for the 3D surface.

> Why unpleasant, if I die can't I just go to the astral and exist there?
If you acted in a very irrational manner you'd create karma and lock yourself in a very bad spot. Maybe you'd get a bad version of the "vampire insanity" some seem to experience as they try to form a solid place in the world. Being very strong but acting like that means you'd be locked between the force which wants to say you should be dead, and a lot of other forces which say that
> anon is a spiritual immortal and should pay off debts in this life, there are also many tasks he should perform during a long life, we can't let him leave
so maybe something like that meme lore thing will happen where you seem to die or end up in some strange state of hibernation for a long time, like being left in a crypt until some adventurer with bad luck wakes you up in 200 years?

> In essence it means you have to ERP out your vampire character at all times just like the lady you mentioned? 
Yes, but over time it becomes an immortal construct itself, and that is when it can be moved to other dimensions. It can't lack any part though.

 >>/4143/
> lock yourself in a very bad spot.
But maybe resting for 200 years in a crypt and then being awakened by a cute tsundere adventurer girl isn't so bad? It's like a fresh beginning except you get +1 waifu by default. A victorian-era vampire fantasy. Except we're heading towards what seems to be a chinese cyberpunk dystopia where there won't be any adventurers or even crypts, only npc slaves in 15 minute cities... And the victorian era is long gone anyway. But we'll see.
Anyway thanks for checking and letting me know that I'm still not physical immortal but almost. If you have any further advice on what I should do or how I can complete the last bit of the circle asap other than keeping up my vampire soul, feel free to post it.

 >>/4146/
Being in "insane hibernation" could very well be like having fever dreams or constant nightmares. An immortal can't go to hell in the hellish manner, but they can have bad dreams. I've had a lot of spiritual disturbances, which escalated since mars of this year after I created an astral armour layer which accidentally put a huge annoying boulder on the glowie main avenue. The stubbornness of these organizations when trying to move said immovable, indestructible object... I know full well from personal experience why some vampires in history turned insane as they clashed with the pre-existing power structure. I also learned a lot about why humans cannot be awakened or reasoned with.

They behave exactly like the waves of enemies in MMOs, who never learn and never stop attacking despite everyone before them being killed. Every single one of them think they alone will be the one to break through, they're compartmentalized and don't know what happened before, or they have a certain soul make-up where they think they are "the one and only existing omnipotent god and the single being in existence", which makes it impossible for them to surrender to someone else, as that would be to accept that someone else exists. This would break their illusion of omnipotency, so they never surrender, then they get eliminated when they face someone stronger.

There's essentially nothing left of them now. I guess this is what will happen in any period, then a new power structure is built up, as I said in this post
 >>/3818/
where they hide the immovable object and do everything to ignore it, like that woman posting on tiktok openly saying she's a vampire. All the glowies must know this, but they won't touch her. In latin America they are in some of the most brutal organizations, so even if someone tried to interfere, they wouldn't live through it seen from a human concept of it either.

I'm trying to explain the seriousness of the situation, is all.

> If you have any further advice on what I should do or how I can complete the last bit of the circle asap other than keeping up my vampire soul, feel free to post it.
There is no standard method, but dedicated practice helps. I do 45 min hatha yoga every morning as a base practice. Recently I started seeing the cracks in reality, such as how the functioning of our 3D eyes really are like looking through a device where certain colors or parts of the field of vision can be selectively shut off. We then use our bodies to interact with only the part we see.

The beginning of "pathing" relates to this realization, as I am now really seeing reality this way. The other half is starting to appear, as if one of my eyes had been closed and I, perfectly physically, only saw half of the physical reality itself. To walk in the other half is then a perfectly ordinary, physical thing.

Try get there. Some things to note: native Earth reptilians can all see your energy. They can also see that NPCs/zombies are empty. If you learn to read the signature of reptilians so that they appear in full vision to you (I think there is something about teaching the eyes to see each object), you will see them in the street, they will see you and you both will know that you are seeing each other. It's part of the hidden community out there. Vampires do the same. You won't be talking to them in any obvious manner, just as you won't be telling a reptilian that you know what they are. You know, and they will know that you know by the way you look at them.

 >>/4147/
> There is no standard method, but dedicated practice helps.
Alright. I'm glad I'm almost there at this point so what's left should come soon enough with a little effort.
> Being in "insane hibernation" could very well be like having fever dreams or constant nightmares.
So I can't kill myself. I wonder if a random heart-attack before I finish the circle would still be possible to send me to the astral, or something like that.
> the one and only existing omnipotent god and the single being in existence
I thought it's just like that at the core of things and we only need to awaken to that fact.
> Try get there.
I'll try, thanks again.

Last night after staying up late trying to make something work on the computer, I walked out into the hall on the bottom floor over to the mirror to comb my hair, because I don't want to go to sleep with messy hair. It always gets worse if I do.

I didn't turn on the light so the only light was from the next room. In the corner of my eye I perceived the door into the dining room being open. I found that a little strange, because I usually close it at night to save heat.

After turning away from the mirror I was going to close the door, but it was already closed. The feeling of the open path and view into the next room had been replaced by the wooden firmness of the closed door.

At this moment I had a distinct feeling of the dimensions having somehow shifted. 

This was a pretty good demonstration of what I meant by natural activation of the pathing ability, good enough to retell it. What would have happened if I walked through the open door? Or was the open door a manifestation of the path already having changed?

Either way, it appeared fully physical to me when I experienced it.

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 >>/4155/
Will I be able to know for sure by myself when the circle is complete?

 >>/4156/
It depends on how you see things, it will manifest in some kind of change to you. I can see the discussion on here seems to have lead to some change, there is some energy streams connecting over the gap now, like some threads sewn in.

Since it's moving in the right direction now I think it may be possible to do some external manipulation to cause a faster connection by removing blocking energies from the egregore. Let me try something. (It's a learning process and will always lead to some feedback energy if it works.)

 >>/4157/
I've previously created things to maintain other people, aside from the ring which creates an indestructible qi body for them. I went by hard functionality and created one which I refer to as the blue armour, an insectoid exo-skeleton based form which emulates the human appearance and can be sent out to maintain NPCs as well. It's a way to maintain the position in society, so that important NPCs aren't killed/removed.

I had an idea now: to create an adaptive version of this, based on each person. This means it can't be projected out and multiplied, but instead works to maintain only the owner's bodily form. I'll just call this the black armour, because black contains all colors.

 >>/4158/
> I'll just call this the black armour
This seems like it's something for npcs also. I don't think I'd want it. It's better to complete the circle and all your progress naturally with your own achievement instead of trying to duct-tape it or force it with external crutches.
> do some external manipulation to cause a faster connection by removing blocking energies from the egregore. Let me try something. 
Feel free to do so if you think you can  help it in a way that is natural and that doesn't impair me.
 >>/4157/
> I can see the discussion on here seems to have lead to some change, there is some energy streams connecting over the gap now, like some threads sewn in.
That's nice. I feel like I would be able to do a lot of things with my mind without having to do a routine mechanical yoga practice every day for a long time or something like that. But if it get's completed I fear I would never be able to physically die and I still have some doubts whether that's a good thing or not. I want to be able to change my body and live on the astral where I can create a world that I like, something that actually fits me and have a body that I like. Flying around and stuff. Maybe it's better to get killed and get rid of the old shitty physical body while I still can?

 >>/4159/
> This seems like it's something for npcs also
It would not, because NPCs don't have a soul so there is no "core algorithm" to build it from. This armour would be projected from yourself, after learning how to use the spell program. Trying to put this on someone else can't work because their physical and spiritual DNA would be different. It's not right to call any of these methods "duct tape" because it's technically the same as a guided session with a teacher showing you how you can do something. Learning it is your own doing.

> Feel free to do so if you think you can help it in a way that is natural and that doesn't impair me.
Doing it wrongly would also entangle me in the negative energy, so I always aim for anything I do to be "mechanical" in nature. 

Compare to healers who draw the negative energy into themselves, then purge it. That's super dumb because they are pulling in dirt inside of themselves. Never use your own body as storage, or any construct which is part of your being.

The silver tray astral artifact was created to work as a barrier against pulling energy into yourself during group sessions, but if the energy (gong) is strong enough it can be done without such measures because the functionality is included in the gong itself (because it's an intelligent energy form, so it's a form of astral AI already, even if no one used that terminology in pre-history). The energy manipulation, including sharing of things like an installer for said armours, is done mechanically in the sense that's it's applying a form of external force or "violence" on the person's energy. It's just done in a way that doesn't reach harmful levels, like someone carefully stepping on your body for a deep massage. This way any karma is "violently destroyed" rather than absorbed, and this prevents it from being stored in the body of the person doing the "healing". It may be more like beating negative energy out of you than "healing", it purifies, using external force.

 >>/4159/
> I feel like I would be able to do a lot of things with my mind without having to do a routine mechanical yoga practice every day for a long time or something like that
I can't speak for others, but it's a common thing for learners that they watch something, read something, and then they think "oh I get it, it's this way, I don't actually need to practice to understand this".

But if later asked about it, they can't even explain in their own words what the topic was about. It's a mental illusion where you followed along with something and never tried to apply it, so you maintain the idea that you "know this and don't need to study more". I've had this happen over and over, and at times like this I have to remind myself that thinking about a yoga position is not to perform it. The physical strain is not there from the thought of it, and any sensory input matters. Even that if just standing or sitting for a certain period of time in a set position. It's been, I think 2 years since I started focusing on Hatha yoga, after doing the Ashtanga variant for a few years. I just this week realized that following the sitting instructions concretely exactly as described in the Pradipika, not ignoring any small detail, changed the tension level in different parts of the body and also effected my mindset for the better. But it took a year of doing this position before I even realized that this mattered. I had tried it before, I would just have felt tensions all over and not noticed this slight difference.

 >>/4159/
> I want to be able to change my body and live on the astral where I can create a world that I like, something that actually fits me and have a body that I like.
Did you read the posts about the foxes creating a Mount Fuji-like construct on the astral, for humans to enter and study in? You can do this, and you can go there, in body. Things have progressed a lot in the "hidden world". Even perfectly regular humans can be moved to other dimensions in body, but it's not a positive thing for them usually.

This is part of the stuff we aren't talking about in the open here, but for example Jeff Bezos was kidnapped this way and moved to a different dimension by "illuminati" (using ET technology) for being too much of a free thinker (yes, his company has shit working conditions but in principle he was a good guy). It happened around the time he was to go on a space tourist trip. The person who appeared before the cameras there was a native Earth reptilian cloaked to look like him. They had already removed him by then.

The Russians are also building something like this, using industrial scale energy controlling set ups, which can actually move regular humans into constructed places like this. What we're being told in mainstream media about what is happening is dumbed down and shallow on so many levels.

One thing I want to make a point of here is that, it would help you to forget about the idea of doing things "naturally, by your own power", because very few people can do this, and they end up being those like Bodhidharma who was said to cross a river on a stalk of reed, among other things. Don't be afraid to use external constructs to achieve things, everyone else is doing it. The important part is just to not do it negatively.

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 >>/4161/
What I meant is more like doing with the mind or "willing" it, which is different from thinking about something or knowing it. Doing it can also take a long time, a lot of practice and cause strain and tension mentally and energetically, and if you're advanced even physically. As far as I know you can even work out your physical body mentally without actually doing anything in the physical and it will work if your will and visualization is good enough. There's a reason they say "all is mind" and "mind over matter". I'm not saying to do everything like this all the time. But it's possible to affect some things with the mind without physical effort. Just like someone playing out their vampire persona until it becomes real. Why wouldn't I be able to complete the circle using the mind alone when it's already almost complete and keeps progressing that way? It's not like I have done physical exercises for it. That doesn't mean I don't get what you mean however. I understand that just thinking about it and knowing something won't do anything. "There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path."
 >>/4162/
> Did you read the posts about the foxes creating a Mount Fuji-like construct on the astral
No sorry. You said once that vampires or touhous (don't really remember anymore) can wear their old body in form of a piece of jewelry as a necklace and go to the astral while having other bodies. So yeah there probably is a way. But sooner or later I'd rather get the old body completely out of the way or change it in a way that let's me mould it into whatever I desire.
> it would help you to forget about the idea of doing things "naturally, by your own power"
Well that's probably true. As long as the progress becomes internal too. I'm all for guidance and presenting the choices that's for sure. The rest everyone has to decide for themselves. I personally don't care if everyone is doing it (from looking at humans that's usually not a good sign) or if only very few people can do something. But you don't want to be too stubborn and miss out great opportunities either.

 >>/4163/
> Why wouldn't I be able to complete the circle using the mind alone when it's already almost complete and keeps progressing that way?
Well, you are here posting now, which is interacting physically with your keyboard, and forcing you to translate your thinking into action... Just because something worked to get you to 90% completion, there is no guarantee it will do the last 10%. That's why. Using the brain to construct logic reasoning by crashing ideas together in a mental Large ERP-collider can also create new matter (ideas) if done right, while your body is in a near sleep state. But this kind of work always has the risk of turning into mental masturbation instead of something productive, and that is most signified by being impossible to apply in real situations. But the mind will work very effectively to create believable motivations for why you don't need to apply it (I'll just keep practicing in my mind, Buddha just sat in lotus position, Bodhidharma sat in front of a wall for 9 years, etc. There was a pretty good explanation for why this worked in ZF; Bodhidharma's soul left his body and moved into a different timeline where he lived several lifetimes as a regular person, while his real body was sitting in front of that wall doing nothing, it looked like he did no exercises but no one knows how much he really did in those other lives.). Just to drive home the point.

> I personally don't care if everyone is doing it (from looking at humans that's usually not a good sign) or if only very few people can do something.
Unrealistic goals can turn into idealism and then failure. The thing which is very common on other boards of this kind, the 
> you don't have to support the jews by working, just life off prana
> why do you have to use the electric grid, just get your own windmill
> it's not gay if I'm wearing a skirt
and so on. How many of those people actually did anything? (rhetorical question) The people we know of as role models are all those who at least did enough to be famous or infamous for it.

 >>/4165/
Alright I understand what you're getting at. Altought I'm not sure if I will start a yoga routine now but let's see what I can do. With that being said I think it's time to go do instead of posting but before that there's one last thing on my mind. Would you say that after completing the circle and attaining the "physical" immortality, the body actually becomes metaphysical instead of just pyhsical? You called it a projected form, so that would mean the body becomes something like a energy structure projected by the mind/consciousness instead of just being physical flesh and blood as it applies to normal mortals? This is something I still don't quite get. If it's a projected form you could project pretty much anything or even not project it at all. Is this right?

 >>/4166/
You can project anything, but it won't sync with the world system if it's too much of a bad match. The insectoid exo-skeleton armour was a stretch to test if it's possible, and turns out it is. The world just doesn't want anyone to see this so it will be hidden to fit with the consensus reality. I still look perfectly human, and so does anyone I maintained using this armour. If the consensus got weaker, the armour image may shine through. But your DNA should be emulated as a qi-skin, there has to be some acceptance for this in the construct, so I did add that. If you went and made a really strictly non-human form and projected it, it would probably at most be a poltergeist, maybe being able to possess already existing bodies but lacking the ability of keeping the human form if circumstances wanted otherwise.

I've seen the mind images of some hostile spirits and other people viewing my location and the people I have the blue armour on, and to those looking from afar it looks like a very mechanical suit of living armour. They're puzzled by it.

I think you can get away with a lot as long as you let world qi flow naturally over the form. Humans just really don't want to see apparitions in broad daylight so their brains will tell them they are seeing something normal.

> Would you say that after completing the circle and attaining the "physical" immortality, the body actually becomes metaphysical 
Yes. But it needs to sync perfectly with the human layer to be in a stable form here. That part requires exact balancing, and the right level of gravity. If too high you end up in the underworld, too low and you can't stay on the ground, which means your spirit form would float and not have a body. The human flesh body is part of the Earth and owned by the Earth deity, it's not your body. Currently all NPCs (not converted human NPCs which belong to the yokais tho) are owned by the Earth and controlled by the Antichrist organization, they have some sort of contract saying that humans who degenerated and lost their souls (zombies) can be used by them. The Antichrist consists of evil and chaotic spirits who work to create as much disorder as possible.

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 >>/4168/
Thanks boss. I feel like it's enough for now. I need to digest and apply what I have read here and hopefully push through soon. But the convo was refreshing, literally. And thanks again for checking on my status. I'll try to get down on seeing more of reality and the pathing thing. Also sorry that my Id is changing all the time, I don't do anything to my router or my internet connection. Maybe it's because of the browser.

 >>/4147/
> You won't be talking to them in any obvious manner, just as you won't be telling a reptilian that you know what they are. You know, and they will know that you know by the way you look at them.
Do these people "know" what they are? Because many times I have perceived people who weren't human one way or the other, but they seem to be oblivious to the fact. They're like "possessing themselves" in a way. Possibly because their actual nature is locked in their subconscious or held hostage by their shadow (trauma conditioning).

 >>/4306/
Reptilians know what they are, superficially. They aren't religious. They coordinate through the international Rotary organization.
https://www.rotary.org/en

Because they are persecuted and genocided for centuries, they never speak openly about what they are. They managed to hide their appearance completely to humans, using their psychic abilities. But human secret services all have gathered human psychics so they can still keep track of who they are. 

You will never find one talking about it with any human, but obviously they teach their kids about the difference, and why they can't talk to the humans who don't have green skin about it. They're the most secretive racial group on the planet.

Reptilians don't have super powers except for their 3rd eye and some other abilities, so they need to hide. Vampires are also secretive because they need blood, and that requires a network to not attract attention. But they aren't in the same kind of danger, because all vampires with some experience are untouchable to humans. They can change time and space, mindcontrol humans directly, and if against all odds you got to fight one, they move faster than anyone else. But that's just unthinkable, they wouldn't stay around in an exposed situation like that.

Even lower vampires are impossible to touch, they create a "nest" in a city and take over all political and business positions, they control the police and legal system as well. If someone was to find out something funny about them, they'd themselves be found dead in an alley or thrown out a window.

You can just think about what perfectly normal human gangs can do, then add supernatural powers to that and it's just a beast you can't do anything about. Governments can already not stop drug dealers as is.

 >>/4307/
Do you happen to know if they have any connection to the Independent Order of Odd Fellows?

 >>/4308/
We went through most of these with the Queen and the greys. According to them, the Odd Fellows are a masonic gay club. Regular lodge but for gay masons, humans, so no connection to any major conspiracy.

Positioning of the moon

There's something to add to the previously shared pink/red orb for creating the white spike. I was wondering exactly how to make it as effective as that seen on the older vampires, aside from just having more time on it. What is the exact function causing its effectiveness? I've concluded since long that a fairly weak something, no matter what, can become very effective and strong when placed correctly in relation to the system its used in. There is an exact function for this, very mechanical, but hard to explain because the mechanics aren't physical.

It relates to the state of being within something or being excluded. You can maybe compare it to any social situation where there is a definite line determining this. Some examples to make it concrete:

The prisoner on the inside of the wall after being given a "guilty" verdict, versus the guy who was given the "not guilty" verdict. They may be essentially the same, but their states are completely different.

The citizen of a nation, vs the non-citizen. They can be the same person, but their lives have completely different conditions when living in the same area.

Last example, because this is a common online topic: the biological female vs the tranny. The bio female can be ugly, fat and repulsive, and the tranny can be refined and feminine, but the fact remains that one of them is a biological female and the other is not.

The little detail which determines if the white spike produced from the red orb of vampirism is strong or not, is this kind of external, but very important line.

In an attempt at producing the correct state, I will share this spell, formulated in Atlanthean:

Irri Tou, Zerith. Zi-it Bar-r.

The "i" should be read as "ee" in all cases, no English "ai" reading.

 >>/4307/
I asked if they knew because I'm convinced many people who are incarnating are not human, like this woman (anonymous link to Instagram): https://dereferer.me/?https%3A//www.instagram.com/p/CoaItRLuOmQ/
Admittedly on her own book, when she worked on a gender reassignment center, she helped many incarnated beings feel more comfortable with their bodies because human bodies felt alien to them. This woman did not consciously know what she was doing, and possibly still doesn't.
I've met many people like this, who are reincarnated non-humans but due to the nature of incarnation, they don't remember who they are.
I myself am pretty sure I'm something else, and that's why when taking the spell at first you told me I had the most similar vibe to the vampires while still not being one.

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 >>/4326/
The woman in your link is an incarnated "tall grey". It's a very strong image, probably still present in her body. All the "regular" greys were kicked out and are now working to build up New Nibiru (which is a planet within naked eye visual range of Earth). I don't know what the other grey insectoids are originally, it seems they took inspiration from the main grey race and changed their bodies to something similar, then started incarnating in different places or just messing with planets trying to take over. They're not aware, because they are incarnated as humans. 

Reptilians are a real, Earth native race of their own. Their souls could be anything, but if incarnated as reptilian, they are reptilian and will know it because it's part of their sensory experience and undeniable. 

If you look at this Trump family photo for example, you'll know they are all reptilians because reptilians only mate with reptilians, it won't work with humans. But some of them appear to be greys incarnated as reptilians...

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 >>/4327/
I think I understand better now. Thanks.

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Some time ago someone told us telepathy should become our number one priority. I am told we weren't told the one thing I needed to figure out because this was my thing, and not everyone's key point to develop, but I'm dropping it here nevertheless for future reference.
Learning to keep my mind blank for extended periods of time was essential. In that state, thoughts come that are my hearing of external thoughts, and the thoughts I produce are more easily picked up by both skilled telepaths and suitable receivers at the time.

 >>/4524/
Different people start from different places, so they need to focus on learning different things. Distinguishing my own thoughts from external messages was for me something like "flipping a switch" mentally. I suddenly realized "I didn't think that, this message is external" and disassociated it from the concept of what is my own mind. At that moment it stopped being heard in my own narrative voice. 

After that I could do it, even if the external communicators tried to put it in a voice that sounded like myself in an attempt at tricking me, I would still know it wasn't me because they got the tone slightly off.

Keeping silent was not the main issue for me, so it is indeed personal which part you need to learn. That said, I already practice this as part of daily meditation since almost 20 years, so my mind is probably pretty silent already.

If you instead of telepathy attempt channelling, which is slightly different, it's more a matter of being submissive and practicing non-interference to speak or type the messages exactly. This skill is useful with telepathy also, for some situations it may work better to link the other part directly to the lips and speak it out loud. It's also something I found to work really well with tricksters or meddlers who try to insert messages in my mind. If I just channel them instead, it's definitely not me saying it. This will make them pretty upset though, it's one of things you're not expected to do.

The combination of keeping your own thoughts silent and then channelling per default, makes you pretty much immune to external meddling, as anything appearing in the mind is external at that point.

 >>/4524/
The moment I shut down my internal dialogue, my own thoughts become pre-verbal, since I just break the habit of verbalizing everything that arises from my depth. Then I can see the verbal thoughts that come without bubbling up from there first. Those are external.
But if instead I identify with someone else, I start feeling, pre-verbally, what they are emanating. So it definitely becomes more nuanced. I haven’t been able to come up with a system that is well defined.

Hey BO, I'm the guy with the almost completed circle for physical immortality. According to your advise I started to do some yogic breathing techniques every day in additions to my meditations. Some stuff I picked up like sitali pranayama, simhasana and few others. Sitali for example is supposed to balance the energies and purify the blood so I think it purifies the energies too. I don't know yet if it really works for anything but at least I feel I'm doing some physical practice. You said further cleansing will take place for me before the circle can be completed and I wonder what kind of cleansing exactly is it? Is it karma or addictions or traumas or toxic mindsets or self-imposed human limitations? Is the brown and yellow stuff you were talking about what needs to be cleansed away? And will it eventually happen naturally "by itself"?
Also can you look if there is any change to the energy structure (the almost complete circle) since last time?

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 >>/4531/
Was this your reading?
 >>/4285/

>  can you look if there is any change to the energy structure
I'll just to a fresh reading because I can't find the exact posts from last time as reference.

It quite literally looks like you are inside a banana. A banana complete with details of the fruit, and you are inside it like in a submarine. I looks like you are very safe and stable there, but fact remains you are under the sea. For good or bad.

I would guess the practice you picked has synced your mind and body with a banana tree mind wave (all mind waves can be represented as some kind of flower). This is not bad, it's just unusual. I've never seen someone use the banana as a cultivation form before. It looks very good so I think you should keep doing what you are doing. A fruit comes from a flower, and flowers represent enlightenment. It being a complete fruit just says something of your perspective.

 >>/4537/
Well...
 >>/4140/
> I looked at your energy now and it is very strong red and black, with a black core having an almost complete, thick circle of red energy encasing it.
This was me and what I'm talking about.

 >>/4538/
> This was me and what I'm talking about.
I see the image from back then now when looking back. It appears you are then rising up from below, getting closer to the surface.

I think you posting this now and your location correlates with things I just found and did myself. I was even shown a book about submarines earlier today, and was just looking into the Mariana Trench outside Japan and it's metaphysical symbolism.

 >>/4540/
> It appears you are then rising up from below, getting closer to the surface.
So is that a good thing? What does the sea represent in this case?
And is there nothing about the circle of the permanent physicality? Last time you said here  >>/4157/ that small threads are sewn in over the gaps but I wonder if it changed more.

About the banana thing, I don't really understand...maybe it's because of the newly adapted yogic exercises?
> I've never seen someone use the banana as a cultivation form before.
Me neither. If anything I'd see my cultivation form as vampire-like or something more standart but that's kinda weird.

 >>/4542/
> So is that a good thing? What does the sea represent in this case?
Yes. I means a positive journey up from the depth of the underworld (hell). The body form originates on dimension 1D, then passes -1D, then -2D which is hell, after which it reaches -3D which is physical Earth. Once the banana floats up, you are done.

> maybe it's because of the newly adapted yogic exercises?
I see no other reason. You're just not developing a lotus, but a banana.

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 >>/4543/
Okay. I just assume that floating up means completion of the circle. I hope it happens soon. Also pic related.
By the way, there was an anon before who said he had problems with spleen and thyroid. When I was looking up the yoga exercises I found somewhere that sitali pranayama is supposed to be good for the spleen, and the lions breath good for the thyroid. I don't know myself if that's true or not and I don't want to shill for yoga here but I felt like I should post this here just in case in cas ethat anon wants to do further research.

 >>/4537/
> was this your reading?
Welp, that was me ( >>/4282/ and  >>/2735/). Since you mentioned me, could you give me a reading? I have recently made a few breakthroughs.
Ask me for something in return if you like. Thanks.

 >>/4554/
Your image is now mostly green with a strong yellow circle coming into it, close to the surface. I think this is however because of a recent change, very recent.

The green is probably relating to the environment, and that would be my doing. 

Me and someone else you know if just solved some stuff, will post a TL:DR in the other thread.

Check the round table of the temple for

the white moon orb

I was wondering what the other of the two powers I saw on vampires, was. It appears like a large mass of small white needles, moving like an entity. I only saw it on the Matriarch, it seemed like a monstrous force developed from a very long lifetime, creating the ability to handle any hostile opposition. I was until now unable to see what its function or form actually is.

Their spellcasting seemed to use raw virtue, but a very strong and resilient kind. It seems I was wrong, it's not virtue in raw form. It's white energy, which will turn into a mass of white needles after a long time passes. It is moon energy, to be compared with the red energy of the pink orb, previously shared, which higher up becomes the red sun.

 >>/4592/
I "accidentally" found its form when using Astra + Astra2 (because Astra2 looks at things from the view of particles, chemistry, or physics in direct observation rather than using theoretic models like Astra does) to analyse the structure of the force used by the western NWO system. How did they manage to turn people into these brainwashed slaves who deny their own knowledge, their own nature, who can blindly follow opinion leaders despite the reality before them showing them that what they are told factually isn't true? Even if the answer is that they are "demoralized" like that famous quote says, how exactly was this achieved, and how do we use this same method positively?

It appears this is the same structure. The brainwashing used in the west is a low form of vampire magic, mentalism.

https://www.tiktok.com/@katannaclarke/video/7295894000450555179 [Embed]

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Who else remembers little Alissa?

 >>/4964/
She's still around. From all that happened, it seems one (in total two were saved) of the actresses from the VD were picked up by Alissa it's one of the witches who matches that role irl. It was a strange thing to see this first time, and still looks amazing. There is a way to live with Alissa, if your connection is strong enough. Up close she is a terrifying beast, but with a sharp kind of love for her followers, and always loyal.

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Use this formula to initiate the complete opening process of vampirism, which allows for full dimensional mobility. 

This is a "cheat" in the sense that it ignores all skills and +1 skill/spell learning to target the core aspect only, with great accuracy. It will not seem to grant much power, but it unlocks your ability to move freely beyond physical dimensions. Only this, and you have to practice to actually do it, but it removes the lock.

 >>/4994/
It's a result of combining grey style autism with yokai obsession and targeting vampires with this attitude. The method of creating a mental direction similar to drug addiction, but aiming it into the activity of devising specific spell solutions.

 >>/4994/
Can anyone here use this or only specific vampires? I'd like to try it if possible. Do you have to stare at the sigil while saying "Zaat bi ir itt t ou" out loud? Is saying once enough?
 >>/4537/
I wasn't able to do my yoga breathing exercises up until now because shortly after posting I got a strange cough which hindered me from being able to continue the exercises. Now I'm starting again. A thing I noticed while doing simha kriya is when holding the breath at the end until the oxygen starts to run out and the tension or tingling arises (from the need to breath in again) in the body and you do the final exhale then you can rise up the tingling like a big energy rush through the entire body. No idea if it does anything but it's interesting and so far I can tell it only happens during simha kriya.

 >>/5003/
> Can anyone here use this or only specific vampires? I'd like to try it if possible. 
Anyone can try, but it's a vampire spell so if you don't have innate vampire magic active, it will start by activating it from scratch (similar to Alissa's spell) which will take the same time as that spell before the opening takes place.
> Do you have to stare at the sigil while saying "Zaat bi ir itt t ou" out loud? 
Stare at it, or stare long enough that you can bring it up from photographic memory while chanting the formula. You need to "see" the sigil while chanting for full effect, it needs to be fed into your mind one way or another to increase the definition of what the spell does.
> Is saying once enough?
It can work if done with full focus, but I'd recommend 3 times with full focus. The reading is a bit unusual so try to read it a few times until it sounds right, you will notice the effect when it activates.

> a big energy rush through the entire body
I've used it this way, if I understand your description right. If you can do this with other yoga is perhaps just a matter of your personal affinity for that pose.

 >>/5004/
> I've used it this way
Interesting, so that means something in this direction is how you created gong from this exercise if I understand correctly. 
> It can work if done with full focus, but I'd recommend 3 times with full focus.
Okay.
> Anyone can try, but it's a vampire spell so if you don't have innate vampire magic active
I have no idea if I can be considered a vampire but I'll try it just in case. After I've let you clean me from the vampire spell I don't know who or what I am anymore, except for being simply "I".

 >>/5006/
> how you created gong from this exercise
Probably in the right direction.

I think it's that most people don't grasp just how much focus, strain and pain has to go into these exercises before they give results, that's why they won't get results. They mindlessly try a few times, feel nothing and conclude "it doesn't work".

An event from when I was 19 or so comes to mind. I tried working at a woodwork shop for 3 days (horrible experience, but a good reality check as will be shown) and the first thing I learned was that they didn't actually do much manual woodwork, they just put a program into a CNC machine and fed materials into it, hardly creative.

I was told to put glue on some board the size of a table using a brush. I had just started when the guy came back and asked if I was done. He then grabbed the brush and the glue and just threw it out over the board in large blobs, then used the brush to sloppily grind it out. Very fast, but left the glue very uneven. Apparently that didn't matter, but I didn't know that, I had only glued things where care was needed to get it evenly on, and no one demanded it be done fast.

But I learned from this that things turn out very different when you do put them to the test. For some this will be a redundant statement, but for many zoomers who've never touched anything beyond a touch screen, it's probably 100x worse. 

Creating gong requires work, and reaching higher breakthroughs is horribly straining and painful. It's the same yogic exercises, but the way of using them is on another scale.

I did read once some woman opened her kundalini by doing exercises and edging herself for a month to build up energy, then finally pulling up the spine. Her back cramped up and she could barely get out of bed for a week after, and full mobility to 2 months to regain, but after that it was open. 

Just an example, the stuff I've used and done is worse than that.

But once you're through, it works. Hopefully the methods I've shared will be able to lead someone to complete similar thing later. I treat them all as mostly initiations.

 >>/5007/
> I think it's that most people don't grasp just how much focus, strain and pain has to go into these exercises before they give results, that's why they won't get results. 
Yeah Simha Kriya was the first breathing exercise I picked up when you shared it and it took me around 3 to 4 months until I only started to notice that energy sensation. And I still can't do it right every time yet.
> They mindlessly try a few times, feel nothing and conclude "it doesn't work".
This shamefully reminds me of when you sent me the silent hill nurse spirit and I gave her back instead of putting in the proper effort and making it work. I hope she's fine.
> some woman opened her kundalini by doing exercises and edging herself
At least she can't have blue balls like a male. That's probably an advantage. For a guy it could be horrible. Altought I'm not the most learned on this particular subject.

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 >>/5008/
> For a guy it could be horrible
There is a way around this. I can't tell which is harder though, as women may get stuck on the mechanical stimulation when that's possible? It's like trying to wave your ears at first, but you can do the exact same thing without any touch or movement (as a male). What is called "female orgasm" is just energy build-up. Connect the frontal lobes of the brain and you can do it, it's when meditation starts feeling comfy instead of painful and straining. 

This is another of those things that'll just sound weird, but I learned how to do this after connecting a brain/nerve pathway which appeared to me as two ends of cables, but they were both of the same kind and shouldn't normally connect by that logic (both positive aligned). I forced them together and that was the connection. When I went outside next day I realized this opened a new experience, like adding a Augmented Reality directly in my perception.

Too add to the "weirdness", I soon realized this is the "lesbian" connection, it's being strengthened by watching or reading wholesome yuri (which is why I post it). It's the same state as reached if you meditate in the buddhist fashion. Naturally it helps to be celibate since your focus can easier move into this part of the brain and activate this perception. It's all very mechanical and practical in nature once you realize how the body works. But it will sound crude and "fucking weird" to say that maybe the reason Japan makes so good lesbian stories is because it somehow corresponds with the buddhist thinking.

Speaking of energy build-up.

I created a thing for NET recently, wasn't thinking about telling anyone because it's meant to just be a feature of the blacknet. But if you want to try manually activating it you can do this:

(It's using mental representations to symbolize different functions)
Think of your brain halves as two humanoid black cats. The left is a male cat, the right is female. 
They are facing you, standing side by side.
Let them join hands.
Let them face each other and also join the other hand.
Let them step close.
Let them kiss.
Remain here, and the image of the two cats will start spinning.

As this is happening the visuals will start changing and they will engage in different ways, this is the connections between your left and right brains evolving. You will then start feeling the energy. You can then use this energy generated from the nano-program being run in your brain, to fuel your practice, such as kundalini or gong development.