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They won't risk it right before a major election, but after the 2024 election? Maybe. It is hard to say how the public would respond to a draft or how dastardly the government would enforce it.

 >>/52187/
Brain damage.

JOE BIDEN CAUSED THIS WAR! ONLY JOE BIDEN CAN END IT!

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 >>/52305/
The American people will eventually end it, when we tell everyone else to fuck off it's not going to become our problem. That's exactly how it will happen. And when it does, Zelensky will capitulate a deal with Putin no matter how much he hates doing so, he'll be forced to. Unless he can bide more time getting the Europeans involved, but that won't happen as it would cause an anti-war political revolt across Europe if they dare tried to.

Don't get me wrong. I feel very very sad for Ukraine, they have it very bad. Horrible actually. But fuck!....  we never voted for this.  We never wanted this. The absolutely corrupt evil American government may have ...but *We The People* did not have anything to do with this and won't.  We are not going to become cannon fodder or the fall guys over this war.  If Ukraine wants to end this misery they'll have to surrender or come up with a peace agreement with Russia, or they'll have to flee their country, or better yet overthrow their own government.  Sorry!   Joe Biden started it yes, but We The People won't take part fighting Russia for Ukraine's behalf.  It's a bitter hard fact but our governments will have to gulp it down sooner or later.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-reaction-us-presidential-debate-170424955.html

After reading this report it becomes clear the US government is in a big dilemma. They can continue trying to undermine nations like Russia, China and Iran with dwindling domestic support for major war.... or they could simply give up trying to police the world and address the political polarization and problems we have here at home. It's not like America can win any major war without full support of the citizenry, and citizens have too many other problems, they don't have time for some major war nor do many want to be involved at all. Russia knows this. So does China. So does Iran. So does everyone in the world. America has too many problems here domestically to be successful policing the world trying to win war after proxy war with geo-political adversaries. I think it's time to ditch the neo-con conquest for endless war and global hegemony already, focus on fixing our own problems. Does that mean the boogeymen like Russia and China win? Not nessessarily, it just means America needs to re-think what really is necessary for our country to be united and strong and what is really best for We The People. Unfortunately, if that results with Ukraine losing so be it, but we don't have to lose our own country over the mess going on elsewhere do we?

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> Several border oblast regions

Терпи нагопорк терпи

 >>/52341/
> Be patient

Did you really think I'll remain patient while the world is going to hell? I have been busy prepping, making sure me and my family have all the basic essentials and needs to survive what is coming and glad we moved to a rural location to get out of dodge already, read this and you'll learn why:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-cycle-turns-economic-cycle-plunges-charles-nenner-warns-very-hard-times-are-coming

 >>/52117/
Both sides are losing in the long term OP. Nobody's really winning this war right now.

 >>/52117/
As a Ukrainian i confirm your point, that's all is just a pointless madness going on.  Probably at the start it had some spirit of freedom and sense of fighting for a greater cause. But now everything is clear, it's so over and so sad that it wasn't prevented 

I hope Trump or some other 'merican fella stops funding Zelensky with cocaine and guns and gonna push him and another psychopath Putin to negotiate
It'd be the best of possible endings at the moment

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 >>/52364/
I'm sorry, all I can say is be careful who you trust. We as Americans will do our best to reform our own government in the elections (Trump '24!!!!), if we can successfully do so without all the ballot rigging....  Until then - and unless that actually happens - do not trust us, do not trust our corrupt government, do not put yourself or family in harms way. Do not flee to Western nations either, they plan to draft the refugees because our governments are complete scumbags.

 >>/52358/
No nation wins in major wars. No one but corrupt governments and big banks. Remember both sides of the war are funded by the same oligarchy, always!

Both sides have a lot to lose if they don't come up with a peace agreement soon. I wouldn't count on citizens from other countries bailing anyone out of this mess our governments have created. Not this time around, people around the world are tired of these endless wars.