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> 4chan is taken down for 48 hours

> ITS THE END OF IMAGEBOARD CULTURE!@!@!!111

Happens every few years. It's not even as informative as the great 8chan hack of yesteryear. Play a couple of games and wait. 4chan will be restored and you'll be back to traditional shitposting in no time.
I've seen more damage done to this site by the developers themselves way back when. I've seen other sites completely destroyed without any hope of recovery. This ain't nothin'.

 >>/58163/
4chan newfag here, was the last shitshow worse? This time it seems like they got the whole site hostage and every personal info about the admins, mods and jannies. They're even publishing it all out.

 >>/58158/
Let's focus on migrating here on Endchan. 8chan is bunch of jews and feds anyway just like Kiwifarms. Endchan seems chill. Its the end after all and that's fitting.

Look up claimable boards on the boards page, claim one and get users to move here. This site needs a good /g/, /v/, /mu/, /k/, etc. etc.
Step up and organize, Anon.

Get the weebs to move to /AM/.

 >>/58164/
The Janitors deserve to be roped for being bunch of sellouts and a lot of them were on Gov/Fed payroll so they deserve to be hung up for treason against freedom of speech.
 >>/58166/
Does /AM/ count for Japanese Culture?

 >>/58168/
Sure. But can move to >>>/jp/ too.

 >>/58158/
Imageboard culture has been dead for a long time

 >>/58169/
They should combine both since there's not much activity or shitposting going so no need for splitting those boards like in the good old days and mostly its the same audience. Its only due to the split of JP from A and M that it allowed to be divisive with foreigners from China and India who shat up the board for others who actually enjoyed that part of asian culture.

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Imageboard culture can bloom finally.

 >>/58171/
Pick a board. /AM/ was more active on Endchan. /jp/ might have more traditional sounding to it.

 >>/58173/
Heh, JP is pretty dead here it seems from the age of posts. They should forge a new /JAM/ for all the weebs.

 >>/58172/
this. I REALLY want 4cuck to be gone for good, so other imageboards can gain traction. but we all know it'll be back tomorrow anyway, so it's just a pipe dream.

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Go and tell about endchan, Anon.

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Use this.

 >>/58163/
> was the last shitshow worse?

I've seen worse. I've seen 4chan hacked and it stayed hacked for a while before they rooted them out. And, I've seen much worse on other sites. People will yell and scream about how bad this one is, tossing grass around like some wild gorillas. One month from now only people bored out of their fucking minds will be discussing it.
In spite of the open borders, Endchan never gains any refugees. As you see us now, in 30 days, so we shall remain.
Hacking derived temporary down time be a routine part of imageboard culture. Again, this ain't nuthin'.

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 >>/58158/
Never say never

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I miss Rozelli...

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Its so over

 >>/58170/
I meant that imageboards will no longer be a thing

I run allchans.. traffic today is double the usual so more people are lurking... but yeah that does not translate to posting.  Captchas kill that too.

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 >>/58178/
> tossing grass around like some wild gorillas
people on alternative imageboards always say the most bizzare, yet elegant shit ever. the mental imagery this conjures up fits what you're saying perfectly, yet it's a phrase I've never heard of before. weird imageboards never dissapoint when it comes to anything other than PPH

So like anyone got the list of hacked emails?

 >>/58221/
saw a poast on gee
might be malware tho

 >>/58221/
I know the important thing is to secure the posts about any gov workers and have their information... Umm, publicly available through legal means of public information request on what they were doing and if tax payer money went to their taxes to monitor a mongolian basket weaving board or not.

They can either say its classified (confirming) or releasing the information (confirming) either way its a win-win for the public's interest. Government workers are public information and should be.

I'd rather kill myself than use 8chan. That place is either for retarded pedophiles or future columbine shooters. I mean I don't really have the problem with the latter but child porn isn't very cash money

On that note jesus fucking christ it took me so long to realise you needed to make a fucking account lmao I'm autistic

 >>/58236/
> cp
there's no cp there. there are barely any posts at all infact. even this place has way more traffic

 >>/58236/
Which 8chan are you talking about .moe or .top also wdym u need to make an account?

 >>/58239/
honestly I'm going off on word of mouth, i literally only ever used 4chan so this is pretty new for me. I mean I been a /b/ro for 10 years. also do i need to use cp or can i get banned for saying the alternative (soz mods)

 >>/58241/
it might be my extra chromosome but it would not let me post without setting up an account with ma email and password.

And yeah I'm going off on word of mouth I never not used 4chan so

 >>/58245/
its your extra chromosome.

 >>/58245/
Same kinda I only come here for latest e-girl drama usually, I only know about this place .top and .kun for alt chans at least. Brutal about your Gmail I hope you used @proton at least and not your work mail.

 >>/58250/
nah I used a burner one

 >>/58232/
I know there have been a lot of retards elsewhere (namely twitter) who have no idea what they're talking about claiming this, but there were not any .gov emails tied to 4chan moderators or janitors. 

The full list of e-mails is here: https://files.catbox.moe/vqkxwf.txt

 >>/58248/
holly shit what the fuck I just... jesus christ I'm retarded

 >>/58258/
you posted your email and pass? topkek anon

 >>/58236/
 >>/58245/
You definitely don't need an account to post here. The accounts are only for owning or moderating boards.

 >>/58259/
nah i didn't

 >>/58261/
yeah I found the account tab where you can register and login so I guess you just did that

 >>/58256/
I see a bunch of Chinese (probably Wumao activists) on that email list. Makes sense why they were deleting anti-china comments and things that would get deleted were things that would get deleted on Chinese sites. Had literal times when they would halt my commenting until I plugged my routed and restarted it. They were literally hacking internet connections, criminals bunch of them.

Apparently I straight up cannot post via TOR

 >>/58266/
You can, just not on certain boards

 >>/58263/
I'm high as a motherfucker ye I just made an account on the site with a burner email not acc post deetz

 >>/58266/
Tor can be disabled on per board basis.

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 >>/58236/
8chan is long dead and long gone.
I tried to help drag two boards out of 8chan's smoking corpse into the light of 8kun, only to find 8kun is an absolute abortion. That was a mistake. I wish I hadn't tried. Oh well, as has been said, this place has more traffic than 8kun.
Oh well. 4chan will be back soon enough.

 >>/58163/
test test this thing on

 >>/58295/
 >>/58283/
Hiro doesn't care about 4chan enough to hurry up and bring 4chan back, maybe in a month or two the fastest. This is just my speculation on his view and how hands off he is with 4chan regarding what he let happen in there regarding tourists being able to sustain raids.
 >>/58295/
5x5

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 >>/58297/
If it takes a month or two so be it. It will be back just as hard.
I'm guessing 48 hours.
Rumor has it the problem is they were using an outdated version of PHP riddled with security issues that have been long since solved by newer versions of PHP. If so, the real pain and potential down time will not come from restoring from backup, closing a few security holes, and resetting throw away email addresses. It'll be getting such a legacy system to play nice with the newest version of PHP. I've heard some horror stories for similar situations.
How much pain exactly? Don't ask me. I stuck with Perl.

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Info about the hack

 >>/58158/
If the boards had content, people would come eventually. It has to serve a purpose. 

 >>/58158/
It's weird seeing a pony on /b/.

I have no board and I must post sneed

 >>/58311/
They have to restructure everything and they have to start basically 100% new, using new emails and whatever else for jannies, hiring new staff (for free), they basically will have to re-format the entire site and structure of it. Its not a simple 48 hour situation. Their data is basically in hostage mode now.

 >>/58312/
>  Sus witch related picture.
>  Red text (Witch's Truth)
>  (Purple Text):  they are different in that a culprit (in this case, a character who has killed or will kill someone else) can lie with purple.
>  There are no janitors or mods on 4chan with a .gov email address.
>  This is a mistruth.
So it is confirmed there is dot gov email addresses/people connected to gov. But not using said address?

Either way, they are lying about something. I know an Umineko reference when I see one.

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 >>/58339/
Speak in plain txt you dickhead you aren't being funny.

 >>/58339/

Session

Google has been HEAVILY censored bro.  You literally cannot find these places without knowing them previously any longer

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 >>/58312/
Why did they do it? I understand lulz but they must know as well as we do that we have nothing else in our lives. For the most part at least. My dopamine receptors are so fried without 4chan and youtube playing I'm ridiculously bored.

 >>/58371/
They are kikes, they hate anything they don't control (hentai, video games, opinions, speech, the creative medium of text.)

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 >>/58371/
They hate ponies.

 >>/58265/
That was fairly obvious, i made a half dozen or so comments about the behavior across three boards and engaged in a lengthy insult laden argument with a handful of people more than once.

When they start breaking down its fun, the way that chinese version of the use of English comes out, then you know you're hitting hard.

 >>/58371/
Probably China connected backlash, Trump tariffs maybe? Chinese companies are getting crushed, lmao.

 >>/58371/
 >>/58642/
Definitely China

 >>/58716/
Got to love it how they were show-boating being somehow able to withstand the economic burden they would cause when they were getting absolutely crushed hours later after they kicked in. There's a reason Trump made that penguin island and other places pay, if he didn't, Chinese would use every loophole to go through without having to pay for their junk items. They can easily re-locate businesses but they can't easily pay a lot of money. Trump should focus on crushing their trade routes even further now. That's how you beat China. Simple as.

 >>/58236/
faggot

 >>/58340/

what do those posts mean
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 >>/58339/
 >>/58340/

wut mean

 >>/58158/
Been here for years, 4chan sucked

 >>/59005/
 >>/59006/
Plain text: No coded language or something you need to de-crypt with an encryption language. No illegal activities here bros.

 >>/59005/
 >>/59006/
From historical precedents these are figuratively called numbers stations. They are generally considered to be organized crime or three letter agency related and being used to facilitate one way communications. The messages being relatively minor and about what you would expect in that regard. They are not nuclear launch codes or things that will cause bicycle bombs to suddenly start blowing up. More like, "place police station A under observation for the next three hours and report unusual activity," or, "forward next package delivery to address B."
Anyway, for the rest of us, they're just garden variety spam.

 >>/59077/
>  Numbers stations.
>  Crime and Feds.
Implying the organized crime isn't the feds just pretending to be criminals.

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 >>/58239/
endchan daily log for yesterday

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 >>/58239/
8chan.moe log from yesterday

My knowledge of website mechanics is decades outdated,so if the question is ignorant, excuse it.

Wouldn't the first step of cleaning a server of outside influence be to disconnect it from the internet so further damage can be prevented? Or is everything under some encrypted thing that overrides any attempts to circumvent the problem?

I imagine 4chan will reappear eventually, possibly without its archives. If I were Mr Potus,I would insist on it for security reasons:I want the kooks of the world ranting in monitored forums so they can be kept an eye on easily. And I am sure those interested in manufacturing opinion have lost much ground in distribution of their brands of propaganda. I was a habitual haunter of /ic/,and was recently posting the 180+ strips of a comic I did,and suddenly this happens.

Is 8chan.moe down?

 >>/62221/
No.
It's throwing occasional 404's and varnish cache errors. This is just a reflection of the increased load due to refugees.
Economics is a real thing. Everyone has bills to pay and 8chan.moe is no exception. A consistent problem with alt-imageboards is they fall into a minimal level of infrastructure just sufficient to support their modest sized user-base and keep the bills in check. When they get an influx you get instability until they pony up for better hardware.
Get used to it. Nobody wants to blow their load on a bigger hosting plan until it's clear halfchan is kaput for good. Also, it's not clear the flood of refugees will bring anything worth the outlay to add support. Deadbeats, bores, trolls, bots, spam, and all that lot are better housed on the bigger social media platforms with money to burn.
Yeah. Minor instability all around is to be expected in the near future. Get used to it.

 >>/62219/
My days of being responsible for corporate servers are long past as well and I ain't going back.
Faced with a similar situation, here is a rough outline of what they would need to be doing.

0. Do not touch the backups. You have a lot of work to do before you touch the backups.
1. The hardware itself. Firmware and the bios are no longer secure. They can be hacked and replaced. Reset everything back to factory defaults and reupdate.
2. Maybe they don't use a physical server? A virtual environment emulation is better, but I'd recreate that from scratch as well. In this case the vendor hardware is not your problem, but it should be fine even in this situation.
3. Install and update to the most current operating system from scratch. Not from backup. From scratch.
4. Install and update to the most current application software. Not from backup. From scratch.
5. Are the configuration files in binary or text?
6. If they are in binary, you use whatever configuration interface created them to recreate the files. Not from backup. From scratch. You may need a completely separate offline sacrificial test server to restore the binary config files to just to have a look at what hell is going on.
7. If they are in text, copy them from the backups to a neutral location. Examine each line, make sure you understand each, and copy over each line over to the correct configuration file. One line at a time.
8. These legacy configurations are probably not completely compatible with the current versions of the OS and applications. You'll need to tweak and test them.
9. And now you need to read up on what else has changed with the new versions of everything. Study. Learn. Tweak some more.
9. All that shit was easy. Once you have all the basics working together as expected you get into the really fun stuff.
10. Copy the supporting application scripts (yotsuba.php, etc.) to a neutral location and examine them. Line by line. Once you are satisfied there were no shenanigans inserted put them in place. Add some test data.
11. Watch everything hilariously fail. The supporting application scripts are legacy code that are not compatible with current standards. Study. Learn. Tweak some more. This step may be the worst nightmare of the bunch.
12. Everything working with test data? Good. Now, upload the backup database data to a neutral location and scan it all for malware and viruses. This is going to take a long fucking time. I'd seriously consider skipping this step! Make an announcement that the hackers encrypted all the data and are holding it for ransom. Yes, that's a lie. But, given all the extensive non-affiliated offsite archives? Fuck it. Start from scratch. Anyway, I suspect this is the stage 4chan is in now.
13. Contact the mods, janitors, etc. Do a test launch restricted to them to play around with after they have changed all their passwords and contact information.
14. After a day or two reopen to the public.
15. No idea how to handle the paid pass situation. At a minimum you want to restrict it for each user until they change their credentials. That may not matter if the information is already out there.
16. Good fucking luck!

And this is just an outline. There's a lot of assumed etc's in there. Like fixing the original vulnerability with the file processor/thumbnailer.

The imageboard culture will never die, because if had a programmer, have imagebaord for talk and do shitpost. Is true of true my anon.

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 >>/58158/
people don't want an influx of new people bc current mainstream chan culture is filled with tards and attention seeking behavior.

imgboard culture has already died and is now a somewhat niche-y thing

 >>/62401/
Yeah. There's a new dynamic to imageboard culture today. Back in the early days enticing users away from other major sites was important, and well worth spending money on. There were fewer of them and the Internet itself functioned as a partial crap filter because it was so new and esoteric.
8chan was fun in the very niche beginning. They too then tried to encourage migration and got nothing but a crap abortion for their efforts. If Fred kept it small, cozy, and personal he's still be a site admin today.
Today, nobody is going to throw money at improving their systems just on the off chance they'll nab a mob of homeless, useless, deadbeat 4chan tards. The stable niche communities alt-chans have now are what success is made of.
I hope and pray the refugees settle on 8kun. Or, anywhere else really.
What if Endchan ultimately picks up only 6 to 12 new users across the whole site from the 4chan debacle? We've won all there is worth winning in the chanverse.

 >>/58158/
perhaps the theory that the recycling posts were all bots was right after all and a huge part seem to be more discorders etc than ib users

 >>/58165/
its really something. even after years passing endchan is still here and not a glitcy turd like most of the others

 >>/62327/
My computer knowledge never drifted past being able to install a new VooDoo2 with a blazing 2 megs of video memory! But it is a mechanical series of steps to let 4chan to recover from the hack,long and drawn out as it seems. Then I have heard tales of chips being made permanently inoperable from bios being overwritten, ghosts from the 90s. I just hope some sort of justice visits the ones who did this. Something that spawned Anonymous cannot go unavenged for long.

 >>/62508/
Bots, Russians, Indians and Chinese bought to shill for whatever leader was paying the most 100%. Especially the 1 reply per OP threads were 100% botted.

 >>/62818/
As said, there's a lot of understated etc's and handwavium to that outline. How good is the mainenance coding team? Does any of them understand the more recent versions of the OS? (FreeBSD, or so I heard.)
Regarding revenge, hacking groups are only loyal to each other. Never any one site or service. It's been that way for a long time now. Case in point: the late, great, 8chan hack of years ago yore. A very similar situation with all sorts of neat internal details leaked. And, where did the hacker choose to release that information, chat a bit, and take a few questions? Right here on Endchan with a quickie driveby board creation and salacious info dump.
Endchan had nothing to do with that hack.
The soyjack.whatever website is in the same situation. We'll never know who was responsible no matter if some yokels revenge trash the sojack site for shits and giggles just because the news services all claim they are affiliated somehow.

4chink refugee thread? I miss my vg bros...

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> Sturdychan only got traffic from communities I have no interest in
> Hate using 8chan which most people went to

Refugee here. The post quality is higher than 4chan in like early 10's But frequency is low. I stopped posting probably a decade ago on 4chan however I still lurk as the news hits 4chans Pol first. It's honestly a pain in the ass. 

Also lots have transitioned to phone posting. Kinda hard to start and continue quality threads via phone. I used to organize various threads about fast paced ongoing events however I don't have the time anymore nor the desire. I no longer publically air my anonymous opinions in the event that they become non-anonymous.

8chan.moe is ded

 >>/62421/
> nobody is going to throw money at improving their systems

 >>/63702/
Word on the street says Jim is going to do just that with the comment, "We were great once. We can be great again."
Is he delusional? I don't think he understands modern western imageboard users except as a potential means of floating another shitcoin scam. Well, if 8kun temporally sponges up all the crap and bots then let it be said he did us all a solid. Even if he can't see the irony.
Meanwhile, 'moe staggers on under the load. A few decent generals slid over there to bunker down. Hope they stay the course and accept these minor instabilities.
In a week or two it'll be more history than relevant.

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 >>/58158/

Just a chud passing by to piss on their grave. 4shit was nothing but fedbot slide spam, forced memes and brainrot. Even when you found a thread that wasn't just bots talking to each other the users were too brain dead to talk with anything but memes. It was basically an abandoned website that only being run by trannies, feds and "where else would we go?" inertia.

 >>/63702/
try Sturdychan.help

 >>/62421/
being niche kills boards
there is no point in posting if nobody will read
or if you have to wait all day to respond
being fast is what makes imageboards fun and entertaining

endchan is my goto doomsday bunker but it is much too slow for daily usage
only board with active posters is /b/ and it is 90% cuckporn
not worth even looking at outside of this one thread

 >>/63933/
> there is no point in posting if nobody will read


You have a point, don't make sense post if nobody read you post. In the altchans have this problem, and because /b/ was be board with more access on all imagebaords will you find. The fact is us need create the culture of post in the other parts of site, but how?

> Personal experience: 

i was user from a Portuguese imageboard, in months more access board was be opsec, but the site was down in 2024 and her is back in last month, and now /b/ have more peoples talking shit thing.

TWO MORE WEEKS

What the fuck.

8kun 503'd. Couldn't handle the server load. People still aren't on Endchan. Does the administration have just NO presence or what? People clearly don't know this place exists.

Both 4chan AND 8kun are down. This is an opportunity you nigs.

 >>/64933/
8kun works for me.

 >>/64935/
Oh, well it didn't work 20 minutes ago, and it isn't working well. It's hard to get a post through.

 >>/64937/
Nah, you were right, it's dead now. My bad. Must've come back for a few minutes or something.

I don’t need a „foothold”. I am the foothold.
Let the tourists and nostalgiafags mourn their playground.

> imageboard culture will die
Too bad it already did when you fags stopped posting. You want culture? Then fucking make it. Post. Create. Manipulate. Break. That’s what real boards were for. But no all of you sit and whine like neutered dogs waiting for someone else to start the fire. I don’t care where we go as long as it’s not filled with Reddit-tier whiners afraid of their own shadow. Post or get wiped with the rest of the NPC’s.

 >>/63933/
 >>/64013/
> there is no point in posting if nobody will read

> don't make sense post if nobody read you post.

dumdums

Seems fine for me. They even have an active /tg/ board ... with an elf slave wat do thread?
> Click on thread

> 404

> Wait. What?

> Check logs

> Banned!

Oh well.
Yeah. Day ded.

See you soon!

 >>/65066/
>  Elf Slave wat do.
Horny posting on Traditional Games is allowed only on threads but not as spam threads themselves, try to have some class clown. /TG/ is for content discussion not shitposting. Blue board rules.

 >>/68069/
4chan.org has "See you soon!", boards.4chan.org has "Come back later!" and forcing a Cloudflare response gives you "Forbidden?!", interestingly.

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 >>/68092/
At a guess I'd say they're trying to get the mods, etc., back in and reconfirmed with changed credentials. Add in a test run limited to the staff.
Costs nothing to setup a static status page so there's no way to tell how far they've progressed. It's a good sign tho'.

 >>/68103/
Makes sense, they're probably also testing ten years' worth of security patching, since sometimes apps are able to pull the old thread data just fine, while others it gives that "Forbidden?!" message, at least on kuroba-dev.

 >>/58178/
>  Endchan never gains any refugees. As you see us now, in 30 days, so we shall remain.
I hear you barking big dawg, refugee here replying to you.

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 >>/68147/
Thanks, I guess.
What you are hearing is frustration going all the way back to the Infinity Next fiasco of the late 8chan. I found Endchan to be a superior platform by just about any measure and so did my part to shill it far and wide.
To no effect.
It wasn't even all that popular as a temporary bunker.
There were many opportunities to encourage mass migration here from all around. I'm not seeing any different pattern today. A little bump in traffic followed by a die back to the norm.
4chan's determined to return so it's all wash anyway. "See you soon!"
Glad Endchan gained a few organically grown offbeat communities (none related to opportunity migration that I can tell), as well as our /pol/sers being the oldest original board still actively kicking. However, history shows that's all there is to it.

 >>/68174/
8kun was just feds trolling each other into entrapment, funny shitshow but useless. Its like in US if you moved to Canada because you didn't like Trump expecting better results elsewhere.

 >>/63681/
The phone/PC integration has begun. Phone apps can now be played on the gaming com and some newer games are aimed at the phone first like Diablo Immortal. Phone posting in 4chan was at least a user friendly experience. I am jaded enough to feel revulsion at looking at these pages in a browser that doesn't automatically stuff it's contents into the screen space neatly. Mister G-Moot was quick to fill the posts with party hats and other seasonal garnish, but not to do the maintenence it required to run 4chan. I am loathing investigating reddit as a replacement,but there may be little choice.

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 >>/58158/
4chan isn't dead. Its down.

In truth if it was dead someone would have bought the domain and brought it back.

Its just bait.

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 >>/68103/
You get it, it takes time. till then ill be here offering my services to those in need of a friend.

fuck niggers

just check what boards active on getwatcher.net
you don't need to swear fealty to one site

And ... stick a fork innit, guiz! We done.
4chan's back online.

 >>/69474/
don't care
I'm not going back