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> Current and upcoming races

04.06 - 08.06 Tour of Slovenia 2.Pro
05.06 - 08.06 Lloyds Tour of Britain Women 2.WWT
06.06 - 08.06 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Femenina 2.1 WE
07.06 Heylen Vastgoed Heistse Pijl 1.1
07.06 Antwerp Port Epic Ladies 1.Pro WE
08.06 Brussels Cycling Classic 1.Pro ME
08.06 - 15.06 Critérium du Dauphiné 2.UWT
09.06 GP Mazda Schelkens 1.1 WE
09.06 Antwerp Port Epic / Sels Trophy 1.1
12.06 - 15.06 Tour de Suisse Women 2.WWT
13.06 Grosser Preis des Kantons Aargau 1.1
13.06 - 15.06 Tour Féminin International des Pyrénées 2.1 WE
14.06 Duracell Dwars door het Hageland 1.Pro
14.06 Elmos Dwars door het Hageland 1.1 WE
15.06 - 22.06 Tour de Suisse 2.UWT
15.06 Elfstedenronde Brugge 1.1
18.06 - 21.06 La Route d'Occitanie - CIC 2.1
18.06 - 22.06 Baloise Belgium Tour 2.Pro
21.06 Copenhagen Sprint 1.WWT
22.06 Copenhagen Sprint 1.UWT
22.06 Andorra MoraBanc Clàssica 1.1
24.06 Giro dell'Appennino 1.1
03.07 - 06.07 Sibiu Cycling Tour 2.1
05.07 - 27.07 Tour de France 2.UWT
06.07 - 13.07 Giro d'Italia Women 2.WWT
06.07 - 13.07 Tour of Magnificent Qinghai 2.Pro
06.07 Argenta Classic - Deurne 1.1 WE
09.07 - 13.07 Tour of Austria 2.1
16.07 - 20.07 Baloise Ladies Tour 2.1 WE
19.07 La Périgord Ladies 1.1 WE
20.07 La Picto - Charentaise 1.1 WE
21.07 Clàssica Terres de l'Ebre 1.1
25.07 Prueba Villafranca - Ordiziako Klasika 1.1

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Previous thread:
 >>/14077/




 >>/15092/
This was me today, in sandals on me old trusty shopping cart mtb.
I do have very similar shoes (all black adidas something gtx) to Brtek as the mainstay and everyday use and light hiking which I don't do a whole lot lately.
Also very comfy Zamberlans for actual hiking where twisting and tweaking your ankles is possible.


 >>/15095/
I used them whenever I go to the Alps
Here I use them for winter hiking with crampons
Other than that I use them like once in spring to see if they have not fallen apart, otherwise there's no real need










> cloudflare challenge takes 2 minutes on endchin
> cloudflare challenge takes sometimes hours on 4chin
what do they mean by this?








 >>/15107/
It's probably something with my Firefox settings, I have it set up in some paranoid mode, I don't remember exactly what I changed in about:config, I don't want to reset my entire profile so sometimes cloudflare just thinks I am a robot.




















> Cipollini. "If I lost the Giro I would like to get on a tower and throw myself downstairs, other than partying", commented the former champion, who did not appreciate the embrace between Del Toro and Pellizzari

> "It was ridiculous, a fake fair play that bothers me a lot, it's done just to attract consensus... Where is the warrior's spirit of the cyclist? I’m happy to be part of a different cycling,” concluded Cipollini

winner of the 87 edition of the la vuelta HERRERA Luis Alberto has been brought before a court on suspicion of murdering farmers back in the day

> Del Toro Father:"People don't know that Isaac had osteoporosis for many years, that he had tumors or a gap in his jaw. All because he worked so hard. He needed medications, supplements, things that were very difficult to pay for, because the body of a super athlete doesn't just need beans; we spent a lot of money on consultations, medications, supplements, and tests.”
squeak















A big interview with the great Roman KREUZIGER Jr.
Surely by now you are all fluent in czech anyway
https://www.idnes.cz/sport/cyklistika/roman-kreuziger-rozhovor.A250605_160131_cyklistika_tm2




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 >>/15154/
> I went at a walk-through pace to wait for him, but Simon went even slower. It was completely flown below the top.
ah yes the old > mate drops so you ride z1 until he gets back but the gap ain't closing
very relatable



 >>/15154/
I only speak slovake but it's basically the same. 
> I like Tadej's racing more, his unpredictable starts are attractive to fans. Visma does race effectively and with a drive to win, but they and Vingegaard are going through the season in the style of "I'm interested in the Tour, and that's the end of it for me". Tadej, on the other hand, tries to win from February to October. Which is more sympathetic to me.

Kek, absolutely everyone is a pogi boy, I don't think I've seen anyone but D*nes and jumbo shills in the other camp





















molano and bauhaus so consistent at placing well in the most messy and retarded sprint stages. big curve in the final, small roads, multiple speedbumps? they will be there no matter what





 >>/15186/
> p*rchase a dedicated under-spec single use gombuder
> it didn't arrive yet so your hundreds of eurodollars worth of gear is practically worthless
KWAK, just paypig things

















fixed the crevaison on my triban shitter today. I had to change the tires anyways, unlike bertaczeks old looking contis, my vittorias had some white spots showing the cotton layer and telling me it definitively was time to change them.
I should have properly cleaned the rim and inside of the replacement tire, which would have spared me another crevaison on my test ride. I first thought it was just the tube losing pressure because the tire would need a bit of time to properly seat itself, but it was a proper hole.
you win this time tubeless sisters.


 >>/15206/
I'm a peaceful man with bad English, I meant hungry. Also, it's raining in the Cévennes tomorrow, so the bus to the mountain will have to wait a bit. Big ride nonetheless.









 >>/15196/
we've all seen that sending multiple top level runners is a proven recipe for GC victory
now that the sl*venian primoszdonna has crashed out of the picture they can get back to the business of winnen

 >>/15215/
yes

> Matteo Jorgenson reveals he turned down offer of Visma's Giro d'Italia 2025 leadership: "I didn't feel ready for that yet"

and in 2024 he didn't want to go because he didn't feel like a big guy like him could keep up in the mountains with feeding









 >>/15225/
I wanted to go for a late ride and run from the rain but it was no use, stayed home and that was a good idea as I would be sprayed before I started going the right direction back.








Yeah, that was the first true storm with a squall line this year. If I was going the right way on my TT straight I would be KOMing it.



















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 >>/15248/
> you won't make it through the ride brtek
> the rain will make your brakes squeak 
> you'll be cold
> you'll crash in a corner
> your rear tire will wash out
> you will flat
> you will flat and stand around in the rain all alone
> you can't do it
> never could















honestly the worst part about rain is starting your ride in it or getting washed unexpectedly
if it isn't freezing and you're prepared you can get in a good zone and feel the inner strength

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tbh I don't know about Czech cyclists but last year I rode a hill/mountain event with friends where it was raining like 80% of the time and there were still a ton of people on the start, many of which only did half the distance but still
what I'm getting at is that brtek may still face all the same opposition. What if they are stone cold hardmen who embrace the suck or even thrive on it



 >>/15270/
Last year I did an event with friends where it rained for 4 hours and we did like 15km of cobbled roads in it.
Probably the strongest riding I've ever done from a mental standpoint, 4 man train blasting by lone hardmen.

The washing up was hell though.



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> Four different wines from the parcours of Dauphine secured
> None of these will be on /WTW/
Tour de France will wreak havoc upon my wine budget, liver, and waistline





















































 >>/15328/
I lived 3 years in Norway and never once rode in the rain. When it was raining, which was most of the time, I was mostly r*ping, running or hiking. Fuck riding in the rain


 >>/15329/
last year it rained so much that I feel like anyone who went outside regularly got rain immunity 
I see it when I look through my strava club feed where people do group rides in the cold and wet all winter or days like today, neither was a thing the year before but now nobody gives a fuck anymore

 >>/15330/
> cold rain
literally the worst thing ever
> hot rain
when it gets that catharsis hit just right it feels great. nothing like winding down after a good rain ride. im convinced you all just live in frigid hellscapes where you dont get high temperature rain ever


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That being said, I love r*nning or hiking in rain (no thunderstorm on mountaintops though). But you come home, you put your shit into washing machine, you take a warm shower and that's it done.




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 >>/15335/
> your worn rear tire would've slid out in a corner
> you would have crashed for sure
> you would have flatted
> you would have flatted twice
> the group would've dropped you
> it was over from the start
> better stay inside
> you made the right choice













































 >>/15382/
something must be stuck in my rear wheel that keeps causing the inner tubes to getting punctured. good chance to properly align the tires with the valve and put the tires in the indicated direction to make it look more professional and not like bertaczek fixed it.


















































Pro teams field runners into a random belgian koerse in the middle of summer and 100 of them come home broken, beaten, with missing skin and teeth.








if i got collected while being some field filler in a fake belgian race id be so pissed. yeah honey im in hospital because i crashed out of the Heylen Vastgoed Heistse Pijl. really?






 >>/15443/
full sex tourism/warm countries with wide roads. 

mallorca races, UAE Tour, Hainan, Guangxi, Langkawi etc. 

Avoid all the countries with road furniture, good riders and cold crummy weather. The life of a Li Ning Star kermistomper is the comfiest in cycling.


 >>/15449/
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/andreas-miltiadis/2024
MILTIADIS 2024 season seems quite comfy. perfect mix of competing in small races and jobbering it up at some bigger yet relatively comfy races. Show up to your NC's every year and clean up, get to race around the world and get paid for it. jealous



> Why is Pogacar only competing in the Dauphiné after his triumph in Liège? "I don't want to get bored by a fixed pattern. The only thing I have to do every year is the Tour," laughs the relaxed Slovenian.
> My training numbers have been good all year. We will soon see how much they are worth in the race."
How are we feeling remking brothers and fishman sisters?



 >>/15453/
He had a pretty busy spring classics season, took six weeks for recovery and altitude camp, and is now getting tuned up for Dauphine and Tour? What did they want him to do, the Giro, then Dauphine, then Tour?




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 >>/15452/
I've been wondering how the jobber economy works. AI claims they earn 32-200k a year but I think that's PRT not CT level. Another source claims a continental team rider makes anywhere from nothing to a few thousand bucks, fuck knows how much they actually make. Teams like the Universe Cycling rapists with 16 riders and lots of staff (why do they have so many) probably still needs several hundred thousand €$ annually to pay the bills. 
Curious that they find sponsors to front them cash when most of the races they do don't get televised and are in some African/Asian place where the locals probably don't watch live either


















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my take on the rat challenge 2025:
> I dislike eggplants, so I cut the cubes very thin, just to add some consistency
> cooking all veggies separately lead to me using too much oil
> fresh herb mix was a full success
> green house veggies simply don't cut it and adding sugar would be cheating 
> veggie mix wasn't right, too much zucchinis and not enough pepperoni
I rate 6/10. this needs better quality and ripe vegetables from the fields and some good quality olive oil. 
yeah and please don't tell me to clean the oven. I have a oven clean spray laying around somewhere.





















 >>/15495/
Highest point is 170.86. This was on the road right next to it, which according to our mapping service is in fact 169 at one point. Top marks for Garmin here honestly, wasn't expecting it to be that accurate.


 >>/15497/
The benefits are very  minor (weather data for past rides is one, I forget what else). I'd consider it a donation and payment towards trying to maintain independence active development. If you can spare the cash, it's probably one of the most deserving places on the internet to spend it.
 >>/15500/
That's 17086 cm! I do live pretty close to it actually, so at least it's somewhat hilly/rolling around here, not pure flat.










 >>/15508/
I don't even think this person exist and is just an AI pulling from news articles

> Actually, Arnaud De Lie should be the favorite. It doesn't increase so much that it is unambiguous, but we learned on stage 8 of the Tour, where De Lie was locked in, and in Quebec in 2023, that the Belgian is better in ascending sprints than Girmay. He will also love this simple race, where he doesn't have to struggle so much with his positioning, and he is made to be the strongest in a tough race. The uncertainty about his form is just great. After his spring crisis, he retired in Cologne with breathing problems, and now he missed Mayenne with illness. It creates a little too much uncertainty for me to have him as the favorite, but when the race is not a mountain stage after all, it must be bad if he doesn't sprint for the win

this guy is insane, de lie will get dropped on the first passage over the muur



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 >>/15506/
strava sauce browser extension shows you some extra stats for your rides, one among them is a cheeky ride calorie to food converter 
Eggs is the primary currency here but you can do pancakes, beer, burger










 >>/15478/
What Norbert advised was the key, make it less runny. When it all reduced to a more saucy texture the flavors exploded. And doing it one vegetable at a time.
Then I put it back on the stove again, overdid it and burned it just slightly which has destroyed the taste completely kek.

Don't know about doing it in the four (four), guess it is the same heat going on, just difficult to stir and control it.


feeling very unassured of me picks for both goombles. lot of possible duds, dont know why every team decided to bring tree different sprinters to bruxelles. 
might just blow it all up for the jonas+pog+remco+six shitters strategy.

 >>/15527/
If you asshume you have to pick Jonas too (you probably should) then the only decish is who is your 8 point sprinter.
Brussels is fairly easy to pick, this is the phase of the season where everyone starts to have the same team.


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How do you guys cope with doing the same route everyday? I know it's a first-world problem, but basically all my rides (including commute) start and finish with the same 20 boring minutes to get out of the city. This morning I woke up and really didn't feel like doing it again, so decided to rape a bit. Tomorrow is holiday anyway, I'll ride big then

 >>/15530/
It is what it is if you're a city fag. I have always assumed I have 2 decent out routes where I have to share space with the cagies the least.
Once I have found one convenient out route to the norf I was spamming rides that way for two weeks.


 >>/15533/
Oh me too, in the next job I am maxxing out wagebucks and starting to look around for land.
Of course not for the sake of it at any cost, I'd prefer it to be on a hill, with access to a stream, not crammed in between other tiny plots and slightly larger (0,3-0,5 ha), outside of hearing distance of main roads but close enough to a bus stop and/or train station so I am not a full time chauffeur for my future kids for the next 20 years.
And the house has to be really nice, not some CAD shit abomination, like Fishboy's so it will probably be a fancy custom project.
We shall see how many points of this wishlist can be checked out and if I will be able to afford it all without loaning meself to death.

Meanwhile, Dauphiné is closed.

 >>/15534/
> on a hill, with access to a stream, not crammed in between other tiny plots
> outside of hearing distance of main roads but close enough
> really nice, not some CAD shit abomination
that'll be one gorillion eurobucks sir









 >>/15544/
Surprised my boring team is so common, but apparently there werent that many options anyway.
Memco and Jonas are too unpredictable, everybody has the Dopeur and then there's only few obvious choices.





 >>/15548/
> 2 big boys
> best sprinter by far
> lipowitz very cheap for some reason
and after that you just pick whatever not dogshit riders there are in the 6 and 4 points
this is how every velogame is with pogacar on the startlist now





 >>/15525/
I just ate the leftovers. they were left in the oven for 2 hours with the rest heat before putting it in the frigo and it tasted much better. I'll be more patient the next time and just turn off the oven and keep it there for at least another 30 minutes or so.
also those organic pork sausages were very good, I thought they added wine, but it was cider. would buy again at 50% discount.


> Pogacar: "in 2020 it was a little bit different than now i became fourth there and I hope I can improve that result this week but if not no worries it's a kind of a preparation race for the Tour De France
im sure there will be no worries if pog finish fourth in this field





















































> Milan is named after the seagull in Richard Bach's novella Jonathan Livingston Seagull, which his mother read during her pregnancy.
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is binny suddenly going to become a A1 sprinter when the tour comes around? convinced last year was the biggest fluke of the last decade. surely he won't do it again right















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> Finally, he finds breath for a joke: "Am I surprising myself? Maybe, but the rest shouldn't worry too much. Maybe I'll retire when my contract expires."

how do you respond?


 >>/15767/
you don't need chatgpt for that the man himself does it better than anyone

> “Eddy Merckx was something else, wasn’t he? There is absolutely no comparison possible between Pogačar and Merckx. Pogačar is a fantastic rider and the Strade Bianche is a tough race but not a super race. He rode away at 90 km from the finish and no one could follow,” he said. “I guarantee: if I had been on his wheel, he would never have dropped me in my good form. Never in his life! Just like Francesco Moser and Beppe Saronni couldn’t either.”

 >>/15752/
sprinter startlist last year was full of frauds that sucked before and still suck
only real competition was washed Jappe who won the same number of stages (three) and might have won green had he not been relegated on that one stage
this year Merlier and Milan will destroy them



my favorite aspect is his obsession with the demonic italians

> De Vlaeminck still has his own idiosyncratic view of cycling. "What is it with those riders? They earn a lot more money, but they shouldn't say it's too busy."

> "Mathieu van der Poel wins Milan-Sanremo, but was on the wheel for 250 kilometers, right? And Filippo Ganna was dropped 3 times and is returning because the others held back."

> "Now you have 1 Italian at level with Ganna and he is not superman. In my time you had ten Italians who were among the absolute top."






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always wonder if nepotismhire riders are fully aware and accepting of the situation. do some of them actually think they are professional quality? are they resigned to their fate being tied to their better sibling? must be especially crushing for the older brother failsons.









 >>/15788/
> posted pic but not text

I also almost chuted into a fucking summer skier of all places.
Tried a short max effort and suddenly there he was cutting a corner on a bike path








I haven't heard from Dutch riders getting arrested for indecent behaviour preparing for Unbound this year. did 10Dam and Dekker even participate this year?














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maybe I should watch more of the Movistar team videos. the Spanish is understandable with some vamos a la playa Spanish skills. it feels like an alternative ciclismo universe without jumbo and the wout internet defense force.










 >>/15816/
speaking of, looks like Contador has finally started fucking his wife.
He has fewer hours on Strava this year than I have at least. Unless he's keeping some private. His recent rides also look somewhat more moderate rather than insane.









Washed me bike after yesterday's disaster and I think the cleaner I used is poisoning me now. Entire apartment tastes like chemicals

















another 15 pancakes ride in today's warm rains
imagine how many eggs big Brtek would have scored if only he'd followed thru on his race
the skinwalker narrowly escaped me in Vine land this past winter but can't hide forever

> Sven Vanthourenhout wants to coach the ice skating team
Lmao, this dude thought the whole world would run after him because he cavagna decided to pull











> In an interview with the Dutch newspaper AD, Van der Poel indicated that his goal to become the world champion mountain biker for the first time in September has not changed. “That certainly remains the goal. It is said that the fall was a blow, but it was a shame because I wanted to go mountain biking. But I do what I have in mind. I am not so concerned about other opinions.”
> Setbacks are part of it,” continued the Dutchman, who has had some bad luck on the mountain bike. “It only makes me more determined to do better. It is up to me to prove that I still have mountain biking in me. I still really enjoy doing it.”
Told you he would be even more motivated.























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 >>/15887/
This ain't tennis though we're playing bicycle aka squeak city no cheating allowed.
If you want to dope go play football or tennis or running or swimming or ice hockey or any burger sport or any combat sport or body building or weightlifting or rowing or triathlon or archery or gymnastics or track and field or biathlon or ice skating or well, anything you can think of really.









> Jonas Vingegaard even surprised team manager Niermann in the opening stage: "That attack was not according to plan"

rip jonas, he will be punished for this transgression










































idc about flares but it must be pathetic when its just you and your mates. in a large crowd at the top of a climb? sure, whatever. but when its just three guys in a corner it feels pitiful



















































































Not sure why commentators were saying it was a sure thing. One guy who was dead 5 km out but not working vs one guy who was fresher but working for the last 5 km. Seemed like it'd be even.









 >>/16032/
I always like this and hageland
lots of shit roads with dozens of opportunities to attack
the playing field is also even too so some guy like bogged wall can try to win


























































































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