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Elite leadout edition 

> Current and upcoming races
23.08 - 14.09 La Vuelta Ciclista a España 2.UWT
09.09 Tour of Binzhou 1.1
09.09 - 14.09 Tour Cycliste Féminin International de l'Ardèche 2.1 WE
10.09 Giro della Toscana - Memorial Alfredo Martini 1.1
11.09 Gran Premio città di Peccioli - Coppa Sabatini 1.Pro
12.09 Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 1.UWT
13.09 A Travers les Hauts de France 1.1 WE
13.09 Memorial Marco Pantani 1.1
14.09 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal 1.UWT
14.09 GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord 1.Pro
14.09 Trofeo Matteotti 1.1
14.09 La Choralis Fourmies Féminine 1.Pro WE
14.09 Women's Cycling Grand Prix Stuttgart & Region 1.Pro WE
14.09 Trofeo Matteotti Donne 1.1
17.09 - 21.09 Skoda Tour de Luxembourg 2.Pro
17.09 - 21.09 Okolo Slovenska / Tour de Slovaquie 2.1
17.09 Grand Prix de Wallonie 1.Pro
17.09 Delirium Grand Prix de Wallonie 1.1 WE
19.09 Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen 1.1 ME
19.09 Chrono Féminin de Gatineau 1.1 WE
19.09 - 21.09 Tour of Huangshan 2.1
20.09 SUPER 8 Classic 1.Pro
20.09 Tour de Gatineau 1.1 WE
21.09 Grand Prix d'Isbergues - Pas de Calais 1.1
21.09 Gooikse Pijl 1.1
21.09 Giro della Romagna 1.1

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https://firstcycling.com/

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I hope I didn't miss anything from leaf lands. I watched the race the last couple of years, so I don't guess I missed anything. what do you mean allah won a fucking world tour race like it's 2019 or something again.








































Missed my stage race this weekend due to an illness, shame but not much point racing when you have a fever. At least I can watch the Vuelta now, hope to see a filleted fish in the end and Hindley winning by 2min+



















































































 >>/43731/
fun fact checkia is one of two countries in the world who is considered to  dispute their own recognition of palestine as a state alongwith papua new guinea because czechoslovakia recognized palestine and this has not been officially revoked but the current government denies it recognizes palestine [but does not revoke their official recognition]
























































































































 >>/43848/
There's also a major debt card service outage today (just have your money in a bit of plastic schizo chud, lul) and I am thinking these outages (cards and PCS) could be connected by sum shared, high level service.
Or some dunce updated a library on a Saturday, said "fuck it, I am off" and now there is a pipeline failure because of a symbol not found kek.


























Yeah, don't fixate on positions too much, these are worthless outside of official results on Velogames, but the gist is there are few more points to come, some will get 100 more, some 300 more but there will be no drastic changes and you can eyeball where to expect to find yourself in the final table and where to find your sworn, mortal enemies.









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Well the GC "battle" of la Vuelta has come to an end, but that doesn't mean the end of /WORLD TOUR WINE/ (bier) !! The fall classics season is heating up, and we have a Canadian beer to celebrate the GP Cycliste de Quebec!

Today's beer has a fun memory for me. Many years ago, I was a first-year graduate student and took a weekend road trip with my roommates to Quebec. We stayed at a hostel in Quebec City which actually had this beer on tap in the common room. When I had my first glass after a long drive in my POS VW Golf, I thought the tap hadn't been cleaned properly and was full of soap. I had never tasted a beer of any style other than "Cheap American Macro Lager".

Unibroue Blanche de Chambly ($3)

Pours a pretty orange-honey with fine mousse. The nose has coriander and orange, and palate follows with some hop zest. Carbonation is strong and pleasant. This is just good, no flaws, easy to drink, pleasant, a bit of interest. I think my Belgian chien in the background sums up my response.


> Jakub Otruba (CJR) gets 1000 CHF and -25 UCI pts for using a non-compliant position on the bike instead of 100 CHF as previously stated
UCI mafia extorting the little guys. what's 1000 franks in bohmen anyway, probably median wage








 >>/43902/
cant tell if the site UI is that terrible or ive been so conditioned to the pcs UI that im incapable of quickly navigating to results. i do appreciate the density of the pcs landing page, if anything he should ideally make it even denser


 >>/43907/
I think it's only a matter of getting adjusted. PCS definitely has some of its own bad quirks in the UI that you need to get used to.
PCS has livestats for a lot more races and I also feel like firstcycling is often slower when I go there (even when PCS is still up so it's not because of extra traffic). They are getting fairly even in usability though which is good so we have an alternative if one goes to complete shit.


 >>/43910/
pcs search is laughably bad I don't even understand how its possible
sometimes you look for a rider and he shows up after typing in 3 letters but if you type another letter of his name its gone
you type in a riders name and pcsearch finds nothing even though its in the database like what the fuck fix you shit pcsman

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no idea how much of this is personal due to adblock, but this is what firstcycling.com looks like. just abysmal, not to mention even when you scroll down most of the info is useless for day-to-day browsing [UCI rankings without exact points, latest results only including winner]. will never seriously be a competitor to PCS if they dont make it useful to someone who checks in on the sport more then twice a month

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Their search is complete garbage ye. But also stuff like the little menu for races in the top changes depending on which page you are on. It requires some needless extra navigation and it must confuse new users.

Also firstcycling has a search function but it doesn't take you straight to the rider you have to select them from the search results.



 >>/43916/
> Cycling has evolved enormously, with ever more risks and attention to detail. I feel ready to make way for the young riders who are willing to dedicate themselves to this life one hundred percent.
"Attention to detail" aka DOPAGE


 >>/43916/
wonder if the runners are allowed to negotiate with other teams, i saw the bini to isreal rumours but other then that it must be fucked for runners if the team merges very late into the year and suddenly they have no contract when most teams have already filled out their roster






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> On 28 May 2024, Erriyon Knighton was charged with an ADRV by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) from an out-of-competition doping control which revealed the presence of epitrenbolone. 

> Knighton is sanctioned with a 4-year period of ineligibility, starting from today with credit for the provisional suspension that was served between 12 April and 19 June 2024.

cycling really is the cleanest sport. the cycling cognate to this would be if 2019 remco popped for straight steroids.



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 >>/43926/
Today I was taking the train and the car that pulled up to me was completely empty and doors didn't open. I peeked inside and some fine citizen had explosive diarrhea in the center of the car.

#1 Have you ever dealt with such an issue?
#2 What is the protocol if such a thing happens?











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Extremely comfy, don't know what it is with trains and railway infrastructure
that gives that soothing feeling.
Probably it is about it being heavy but working shit that was there for a decently long time and is going to be there for a long time, tiktoking with the rhythm of the day and night.



























 >>/43962/
Thats a good question, they have more weight on the front because of their position and usually the base bar should be low enough to be comparable to drops but I've seen some of them sit very upright so that doesn't help. Road looks a bit rough at times to be honest so maybe they have do dodge cracks 
In the end it all comes down to leaning the bike and yourself, I have friends who ride tt bikes and they handle them the same as their road bikes






















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 >>/43987/
Nah, I've just had a nice rainy walk in the park, would be very uncomfy if I had nice weather all year round. What would I use all that expensive rain and winter gear for, where would be my gloomy mornings and evenings at 16:00.

In the park I've walked past two older guys along the way, thought I have heard English being spoken but they have stopped talking a bit before I came near and as I was passing them I think I have heard a faint "hello".
As a seasoned autist I have managed to hold in the instinctive head turn I was about to make. I would maybe respond "hello", then I would hear "how are you?" and all acoustic hell of small talk would break loose.






 >>/43992/
He should have known better and familiarize himself with local savoir-vivre instead of that old Bri'ish politeness.
What is even a "hello" from a stranger, are we being friendly here instead of the classic Polish resting bitch face "smile"?
Are we going to start getting along better instead of stink-eyeing each other all the time, like some savages?














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 >>/44005/
Yes well everything is being watched by computers so when my light is green or orange it means all conflicting signs are automatically red. So there is no need for warnings. I don't know if they have this sophisticated technology in Polonistan yet or if there is just a guy with a hat managing traffic or something










































 >>/44047/
Imo cx skills are mostly keeping traction in the sections where you have to power through like crazy and keeping the power up there, grug also has 0 competition fitness wise in cx aside from wout and there is almost no climbing in cx either. Meanwhile the xc field at the top is obviously at his fitness because grug is actually not that great of a climber unless its sprinting up a short rampa and xc climbing is far longer. Pidcock has way better overall w/kg and he would probably drop them all.
My 2ct as someone who doesn't particularly like to watch either discipline



 >>/44054/
Yeah his w/kg just isn't there. As far as I can see you also sort of have to sprint over things like route sections and the short steep bumps on the climbs so you don't just have a hard steady effort but rather a hard steady effort punctuated by even harder bursts, that's horrible if you're already working as hard as you can



> Aujourd'hui s'achève la Vuelta, notre tour, le tour cycliste d'Espagne. Nous tenons à exprimer notre reconnaissance et notre respect absolu envers les sportifs, mais aussi notre admiration envers un peuple comme le peuple espagnol qui se mobilise pour des causes justes, comme celle de la Palestine

Prime minister lmao, and people wonder why they were allowed to do what they wanted



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Bodine Vollering is very pretty. And she studies law so probably not as retarded as her sister. Anyway, makes me think how I can't imagine having a younger sibling. Your parents suddenly don't care anymore about you and you have to be responsible or something? Weird






















> Mathieu van der Poel is ending his season immediately after his 29th-place finish at the Mountain Bike World Championships in Crans-Montana. The Dutch Alpecin-Deceuninck rider will therefore not participate in the European Road Championships in France and the World Gravel Championships in early October, which had been optional until now. He confirmed this after the World Championships in Switzerland.

kwab








 >>/44083/
> Mathieu van der Poel will not defend his world gravel title in Limburg in October. "I'm putting the bike aside for a bit," he told NOS after his disappointing 29th-place finish. This means he will also be skipping the European Road Championships, scheduled for early next month in France.

> I wasn't having a good day," Van der Poel confirmed afterward, confirming what everyone had already seen. "I haven't been feeling well for a while. The start was a dream scenario, but after that, it was a long race mentally. But mountain biking is the only discipline where it's still fun to ride around."

> My legs were really bad, but I still tried to enjoy it a bit," said Van der Poel, who certainly isn't giving up on his mountain biking dream. "I still have a few years to go, we'll keep trying."



























 >>/44120/
Yep. Right now they have a GT team in Vuelta which finished second, a classics team in Montreal which is heavily favored, and another classics/young rider team in Italy which is cleaning up every race they enter. 

This won't last forever, never does, but it is a remarkable run of success right now



 >>/44118/
It's a matter of money. They can vacuum up 80% of the talent in the peloton and then distribute them to every professional race on the calendar.
Meanwhile some teams cannot sign enough good riders to have a strong squad for a single race.

I think restricting the amount of .1 races a WT team can participate in is not a terrible idea.

















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it's usually a mix, but they never do like the Alpe or anything because it was just be a w/kg-fest rather than a tactical/team race which is what they try to make ZRL.

Plus they mix in scratch races in which you get points for either being one of first riders across the line of a segment (FAL) or points for being fastest thru the segment (FTS) so there's a lot of variety in racing


 >>/44133/
It's not about soul it's about entertaining vs boring races. People got mad at Sky for winning too much and they weren't as successful as UAE are now.
It might take a long time but eventually people will get tired of the same team winning everything.































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 >>/44167/
No its impotent virtue signaling innit. They could protest and hinder something that actually aids Israel like idk governments and big banks and such but that's harder and might lead to repercussions and that's no fun, better just soy around at a bike race so we can all feel better about ourselves yup yup


It was simple, the moment Adams said all his riders love israel and support israel and the war the UCI should've booted them.
If he didn't say anything the would deserve to continue but they took a clear stance.




 >>/44178/
UCI does not want to take any risks. IOC banned Russia and UCI simply followed their recommendation. Being the first major sporting organisation to ban Israel is a big statement so it's easier for them to let the Vuelta be a mess. If nothing changes all Spanish races will be canceled and they might have to take a stance either for or against Israel but for now they can just say it's not their problem.






























































 >>/44243/
I found it

> After a start in Brossard, the peloton will set off through vibrant towns and landscapes with a strong sense of identity. Between rivers and mountains, farmlands and urban cores, this tour immerses you in the rich heritage, culture and nature of the Montérégie region. Spectators will be able to admire a land where nature and vitality meet, a symbol of Quebec’s diversity.

> The peloton will then cross the Samuel De Champlain Bridge, flying over the majestic St. Lawrence River through a world-class corridor, recognized as the iconic gateway to Montreal.

> Finally, the riders will join the formidable Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal circuit, which will put their strength and endurance to the test. All events will crown their champions on the legendary Avenue du Parc, at the foot of Mount Royal, a natural amphitheatre and the beating heart of the event.












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I can see I have missed them cancelling the Madrid stage, stupid fuckers.

Finally got really rained on.
Verdict on the shoe condoms:
MEDIOCRE
> my calves are far too big to ever zip them up, have to wear them flabby like you would wear a not pulled up sock
> I thought I got putting them on dialed in - no I didn't, still a bitch to put on
> they saved me a lot from the downpour and all splashing through muddy roads
> they still did let some water through, my socks were far too damp for it to be just sweat condensation
> but my socks were far less wet than they would ever be if didn't have the shoe condoms on
> these will work fantastic in winter conditions




















ok you want some names for tete de la course
1 pogi
2 let's go brandon
3 johnny 
4 sivakeuf 
7 yatesi
31 captain america
36 skelly
22 be not
71 quinn ten hermans
81 madouas
102 bert heh
111 baudin
163 iz aguirre, der Zorn Gottes
196 sheehan
154 mein kamp
17 zana
161 aranburu
114 powerless
113 coward
91 bilbao avec crevaison
141 only oscar







































































































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Btw, I have made another 10s pb gain again on a short segment with sub 300W effort by just focusing on the pedaling stride.
Wait till berts learn how to pedal, results will go through the roof.



> "This is one of the saddest afternoons I can remember in Madrid. Because of the violence of these people, the riders had to stop racing."
> "They had thumbtacks and glass. They are violent and encouraged by statements from others, including the Spanish prime minister," Martínez-Almeida continued, in striking words against Pedro Sánchez. "I never thought we would have to cancel a stage, although we were prepared for such protests. I want to thank Javier Guillén (Vuelta director, ed.) and all the security services for what they did."
Madrid major not happy with how things turned out today






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What a strange weekend of racing we have had! Today marks the end of the North American limb of the World Tour calendar and that means time for another /WORLD TOUR WINE/ (bier) !!

It's been a VERY busy day with family stuff and time to wind down with one of the better beers we've had this year! This is brewed in St. Jerome in the suburbs just outside Montreal. This is an Imperial Stout, which is a deeply alcoholic ale made of roasted malt. Apparently they were high-alcohol to keep them fresh during the journey from England (where they were brewed) to Russia (where they were favored by the czar's court).

Dieu du Ciel Peche Mortel ($9)

Pours a deep, opaque dark chocolate color with coffee-colored mousse. The nose is roasted malt, espresso, chocolate. The palate has a medium/heavy mouthfeel but firmly carbonated and the booze is hidden. Flavor is mocha and roasted, nutty bread. This is fantastic for such a big beer. It is balanced and very flavorful, no sharp edges at all. Great!
































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Grand Tour of Poyand Lake with 11 (evelen) stages started today with a banger of an unipuerto, finishing on top of the legendary Lushan Scenic Area
Oliver MATTHEIS of BIKE AIDS humbled the hubmled peloton, putting a minute on redacted's Petr RIKUNOV who somehow can also climb now

> 11 SMIT Willie +03:25
> 27 IDERBOLD Bold +07:58
> 29 KIM Euro ,,
> 43 SAFARZADEH Saeid +12:57
> 55 ŞAMPIYONBISIKLET Mehmet +19:15
> 68 PITA Cristian David +22:51
> 90 GOLDSTEIN Omer +23:08
> 103 SIRIRONNACHAI Sarawut +30:33
> 116 CHALOEMSRIMUEANG Putipong +49:09
> DNF PHOUNSAVATH Ariya


 >>/44482/
They are most likely already looking at alternatives.
Israel literally bombed peace negotiations in Qatar so it's pretty clear they have no intentions of ending the conflict. There is a pretty large probability that this will still be on-going a year from now.












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Yeah, so today was a nice reminder why it is nice to have a remote job and not interact with "humans". 
There was this gruggy guy in the gym, I usually see him on Saturdays if I go. Low-IQ face, tall, well built, a typical Polack of the type which left the country in 2001 for the greenhouses of the Netherlands and it became safe everywhere, overnight. He can't be older than 35 THOUGH, he is just the type.
Well this grug guy comes in reeking of some unisex flowery perfume, I can't stand even regular aisles in supermarkets where home chemicals and laundry stuff is, this almost made tear up.
But what the FUCK is this guy's thing, is he just a fag or did he read on some redpill site that chicks dig that or what.
Yes well it didn't take long before he started ripping protein farts. Jesus fucking Christ, the mix of these to fragrances was made me eyes glazed. And this guy is a walker (like me) so between sets he doesn't sit, or stand, or stretch or anything, he just walks so all his pret-a-porter was being distributed all over the gym almost uniformly.

And then I went to this bar where there are regular Polish cuisine meals, a lot of elderly people go there because they can buy a month's worth of dinners on a discount so they don't have to cook themselves plus they can go to this bar to hang around, almost a senior citizen daycare.
So I sit like 3 places from this gramps who has some kind of text-to-speech app on his phone and he is just doomscrolling through whatever, or doing 2025 equivalent of channel hopping on a TV via a remote. But this app is reading everything articles, ads, scams everything that has some text in it. 
I have heard about the newest AI doom incoming, I have heard the specs of Ka-52 and an Apache, I have heard that if you freeze a candle insert it will then burn much longer, I was only waiting for a penis enlargement ad or livejasmine.com

Thanks for reading my blogpost.
















> Ludovic Robeet was hospitalized last week due to a stroke, according to Belga news agency, citing earlier reports from Le Soir. According to the newspaper, the Cofidis rider was rushed to the Erasmus Hospital in Brussels.

damn, I fondly think about that nokere koerse sometimes



 >>/44513/
my schizo theory is that by policing normal every day dopage through lots of testing in Europe and the blood passport it forces runners to dope in less effective and more risky ways and that culminates into more fucked up pros in hospitals







 >>/44520/
They have two yokozunas now, only one of them is a Mongol. There is a young Ukrainian in the top ranks, and a somewhat older in the lower ranks in makuuchi, and a Kazakh in the middle. There's a Russian and a Chinese but both are actually Mongols.









 >>/44529/
lol fuck the UCI, this is a bullshit statement - it would be one thing if IPT was sponsored by some apolitical Israeli group, but Sylvan Adams is an avowed spokesperson for the regime and its ongoing genocide and protesting IPT's participation is absolutely a valid tactic







 >>/44530/
Nah fuck Spain. If they wanted to ban the team they should have grown a pair and outright done it. Encouraging protest and allowing riders to get assaulted on the road (and injuried btw) is the coward way to do it. 
I'm willing to bet that if some israel team plays some UEFA cup in spain they'll make the police work properly















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Now that the dust has settled on one of the most farcical GTs of the last quarter-century, it is time for our last /WORLD TOUR WINE/ entry of La Vuelta.

As attention payors remember, for the last stage I choose a bottle that is not limited by the route of the race, but rather emblematic of the country's winemaking history and tradition. Today's bottle is from the southern coast - Andalucia, where the bodgeas have been making a unique wine known internationally as Sherry for centuries.

Sherry is a generic term for a wide range of fortified wines, usually made from the Palamino grape. The two main types of Sherry are 1. fino, which ages in partially-filled barrels with a layer of yeast on the surface known as flor which protects it from oxygen, or 2. oloroso which ages without the protection of flor and undergoes substantial oxidation. Today's wine is a typical fino.

Equipo Navazos Fino En Rama Saca of February 2022 ($20 per 37.5 cL)

Pours a pale, transparent brown with medium plus body (just like me).The nose has walnuts, winter apple, and just a tinge of iodine. The palate is salty and savory, with a lovely nutty core and lively acidity. Alcohol is a bit stiff.

This is a lovely wine....Sherry definitely one of the great food wines of the planet, pairs so well with cheeses, meats, Eastern cuisine. It is not profound but it is a lovely drink. And with that, we say adios to La Vuelta and farewell to /wtw/ until almost mid-October.













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 >>/44552/
Milk thisle, artichoke, turmeric extracts plus NAC (n-acetyl cysteine or whatever) and you can live.
That goes to Bertc and all other mild alcoholics of /cyc/.
There is a big next day difference when I get home after some booze, have a small meal and have a combo of these and when I don't and just go to sleep.
Of coursh you would need to unbooze completely and have a longer period of healthy food plus regular intake of these supplements to revert liver damage but it sure doesn't hurt having them along the way.

Just remembered that when I was younger I used to just get water and go to bed without a shower, reeking with cigarettes, bleh.









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> HIRT Jan is """tired""" from slurping vuelta all day long
> OTRUBA Joseba not participating because his team, Caja Rural, would not allow it

So the czech team is going to be
> 35 times czech CX champion Miso BOROS
> a random El ogro del Trutnov, Simon VANICEK

a GREAT team




























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As a sports fan, when a big event ends, like a grand tour, the olympics, even a footy world cup, I usualy feel empty
After this La Vuelta, i don't feel anything at all, very unusual
Fortunately there's still /t&f/ champs going on right now







 >>/44605/
As for me, besides cycling, it's
> biathlon
> snooker
> track and field
> ultra running
> tr*athlon
> ice hockey
> sometimes footy
i used to watch moto go too a lot too, but all my heroes have long retired
i don't watch sumo, sorry bert









 >>/44605/
As a yungun it was all Eurosport broadcasted.
Now it is just cycling, sometimes F1, sometimes handegg, sometimes winter sports when it starts to get comfy being home and that's it.
Not even track and field anymore and that was a staple of kurwabert household.

There is this joke, a bit old, from state socialism era, but I guess still relevant.
Acquaintances talk about sports:
- I like Hungarian hockey.
- It's crap, how can you like it?
- I like the puck, I never see the puck when the Czechslovak and Soviet teams play.

 >>/44613/
its kinda all just road cycling, some mtb and cyclocross and sometimes track cycling but triathlon is too boring and bmx idk I've never seen anyone talk about that
road cycling is the main professional bike racing discipline and everything else is more or less niche










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