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Underwear edition

> Current and upcoming races

09.05 - 01.06 Giro d'Italia 2.UWT
14.05 Navarra Women's Elite Classic 1.Pro WE
14.05 - 18.05 4 Jours de Dunkerque / Grand Prix des Hauts de France 2.Pro
14.05 - 18.05 Tour de Hongrie 2.Pro
16.05 - 18.05 Itzulia Women 2.WWT
17.05 ZLM Omloop der Kempen Ladies 1.1 WE
18.05 Rund um Köln 1.1
20.05 Durango Durango Emakumeen Saria 1.1 WE
22.05 - 25.05 Vuelta a Burgos Feminas 2.WWT
23.05 - 25.05 Grande Prémio Internacional Beiras e Serra da Estrela 2.1
26.05 Mercan'Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes 1.1
29.05 - 01.06 Boucles de la Mayenne - Crédit Mutuel 2.Pro
29.05 - 01.06 Tour of Norway 2.Pro
30.05 - 31.05 Tour of Estonia 2.1
31.05 - 01.06 Tour of Norway Women 2.1 WE
04.06 - 08.06 Tour of Slovenia 2.Pro
05.06 - 08.06 Lloyds Tour of Britain Women 2.WWT
06.06 - 08.06 Volta Ciclista a Catalunya Femenina 2.1 WE
07.06 Heylen Vastgoed Heistse Pijl 1.1
07.06 Antwerp Port Epic Ladies 1.Pro WE
08.06 Brussels Cycling Classic 1.Pro ME
08.06 - 15.06 Critérium du Dauphiné 2.UWT
09.06 GP Mazda Schelkens 1.1 WE
09.06 Antwerp Port Epic / Sels Trophy 1.1
12.06 - 15.06 Tour de Suisse Women 2.WWT
13.06 Grosser Preis des Kantons Aargau 1.1
13.06 - 15.06 Tour Féminin International des Pyrénées 2.1 WE
14.06 Duracell Dwars door het Hageland 1.Pro
14.06 Elmos Dwars door het Hageland 1.1 WE
15.06 - 22.06 Tour de Suisse 2.UWT

> Mecha-Rusbert's webm folders:

https://pastebin.com/Vrhn7DWy

> Bert van Koers' ciclismo quizzes:

https://www.sporcle.com/user/Bert_van_Koers/quizzes/

> Races info:

https://www.procyclingstats.com/
https://firstcycling.com/

> Free streams:

https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/

> Velodrama league code:

51196855

> previous Thread:

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Giro d'Italia (2.UWT)
Stage 5
Ceglie Messapica - Matera
151km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/startlist

GC after stage 4:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/stage-4-gc
PEDERSEN Mads
PEDERSEN Mads
FORTUNATO Lorenzo
VACEK Mathias

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/stage-5/live
https://www.giroditalia.it/en/livehub/tappa/5/

Roadbook:
https://issuu.com/giroditalia2020/docs/il_garibaldi_2025

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / Rai
13:15 CET












 >>/8031/
Had him for a while but the form lately discouraged me. Too bad WATSON burnt his matches, could have been DAINESE.
Ngl, did not consider the nigger at all, didn't think ACK would wake up at all.






so it's definitely a madswinslol tomorrow, right?~

the GC teams could drop him but I don't see them doing anything but slurping on week 1 of a Giro







 >>/8050/
speaking of HLN comments, saw this gem earlier

> I can imagine that other teams hinder Wout as much as possible. It could well be that certain riders are designated for this, like man-to-man marking in football.



















 >>/8066/
if its not impolite to ask, i remember you saying you were thinking of doing an analysis of the rider pick sum and correlation to points results. is that in the works?



 >>/8072/
Nope, but I didn't forget about it.
Should be below an hour to do it, will probably go for it as the next goombling is a month away, I will go anxious about acoustic numbers during that time.
 >>/8073/
Why not. The scores have to be normalized for each race, the plot is going to be dense, the law of large numbers will go into play and a roughly straight line from the origin to top-right will show up but it will be a cool exercise.




 >>/8075/
I was thinking of making a random belgian runner name generator for fun but then it got too complicated in my head and - after all - i can just look at any junior race in the lowlands with the same effort


Got a nice picksum count logic, maybe not nice but nice enough, and it works, and it can be iterated.
This is night night time so I will probably continue tomorrow.
 >>/8080/
KEK, no need to complicate stuff with some scripts when you can enter a random NAT with a specific flag and you're done.









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With the arrival of the peloton onto the shores of Italy, we celebrate the much-anticipated return of /WORLD TOUR WINE/ !!

I have to say, I am VERY excited about our line-up for il Giro d'Italia. Attention payers may know that I favor French wine almost exclusively (supplementing with some Oregon/Cali Pinot and Chardonnay as well as German Riesling and Spatburgunder). Italy grows more wine than anywhere on the planet, has more varietals, more protected appellations, etc and I rarely venture into Bel Paese. So we will all be learning a lot here.

Today's wine is from the heart of heel, grown and vinified directly on the route of today's stage in Salento, Puglia. Puglia is known for a few different varietals, but primitivo (the Italian name for zinfandel) is the most popular. Interestingly, Burgers had previously thought that the Zinfandel grape was native to America but it turned out to be from clones of Italian Primitivo, where it travelled likely from Croatia originally. The relentless heat and flat terrain positively roasts the grapes, producing wines of uncommon concentration and alcoholic fire.

Tormaresca Torcicoda Primitivo del Salento 2021 ($31)

Torty minute decant. This pours a medium-deep ruby with dark core and red highlights. The viscosity is high. The nose reminds one of a lunch meal on a patio under a scorching southern Mediterranean sun - roasted tomatoes, plum and fig, sweet tobacco, pepper, Chinese five spice. The palate has a dry, fruity punch up front with plum and tomato. The mid palate is cocoa and tobacco, finishing with alcoholic burn and chocolate tannins. The acidity is low.

This is rich and a bit ungainly with such a wallop of hot booze on the finish. I wish it had some acidity or minerality to balance what is almost a port-like profile. But it is complex and pleasant. Very nice!


 >>/8092/
I should also note that basically all of these wines are sourced from official Giro sponsor EATALY which has one of the best collections of Italian vino in the United States.






Rohan Dennis gets 2 years of probation and he's not allowed to drive a car for 5 years as punishment for killing his wife lol.


 >>/8099/
need more proper psychos in the pedalton like dennis. heres to hoping tiberi is far too timid right now, lets hope he grows into his role as peloton villain.

 >>/8099/
> The court had previously heard that Dennis and Hoskins were arguing about kitchen renovations shortly before the incident occurred, and Hoskins had held on to the car her husband was driving as he tried to leave.



> Lamberts is also at the basis of the rider that the 33-year-old Roglic is today, with four Vuelta’s and a Giro d’Italia to his name. “We made those plans together, when Visma | Lease a Bike wanted to try to win a Grand Tour. Primoz had the potential, a very high VO2-Max. But the aerobic threshold that is so important for classification riders, was not that high. Still higher than Jurgen Van den Broeck (who catapulted Lamberts to third place in the Tour de France in 2010, ed.), but still…”

Jurgen catching strays

 >>/8105/
> “Over the years we have worked hard together to build that up bit by bit through endurance training. Year after year we kept an eye on it, and it kept increasing. His pace that he can maintain for half an hour and longer had to be better. And that worked out. What he used to do was follow, follow, follow. And if he was still there in the last five hundred meters he would win. But racing is different. With the same profile as five years ago, he would no longer be in the top 5 in a Grand Tour.”

 >>/8106/
> In short, Roglic and his Belgian trainer experienced memories galore in a collaboration of almost ten years. “Only Wout van Aert did I train longer. Primoz is number two on my list of longest collaborations,” says Lamberts, who closed the door at Visma | Lease a Bike and Van Aert behind him at the end of 2023 to sit out a ‘last dance’ with Roglic at Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe.

> The decision to leave Van Aert behind was difficult for him at the time. But the choice for Roglic was a clear one. “I always said that I wanted to stop together with Primoz. Wout is a few years younger, so that would have been difficult with him.”

> “I was ready for another challenge anyway after my time at Visma | Lease a Bike and with Primoz I got a great opportunity to stop at Red Bull-BORA-hansgrohe together. That is still the intention. Or at least if it is up to me. In the meantime I have said to Primoz: if you sign another year, then I see only one solution and that is to kill you (laughs).”

Fun interview

t-rex on the baby pologne start list. isn't he getting too old for such junior races? also found this guy on the list
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/semen-simon




BIG article on czech newspaper about struggling W*ut, blaming his many a perils on his family life
https://www.idnes.cz/sport/cyklistika/wout-van-aert-giro-problemy.A250513_204446_cyklistika_tm2





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> He's struggling. He's falling behind. He's nowhere near the form he's used to. The great all-rounder Wout van Aert was supposed to be one of the Giro's biggest stars. He still could be. But the question that's currently worrying experts the most is: What has caused the 30-year-old Belgian cyclist to fall so far short of expectations?

> The answers vary.
> The lingering effects of a previous illness.
> Excessive perfectionism leading to overtraining.
> Loss of self-confidence after previous results in the season.
< Family life and trying to devote more time to his children.
> Or of course a combination of some of these factors.

> In the opening stage of the Giro in Albania, it still seemed that the effects of a previous illness would not limit Wout van Aert as much as many feared. He struggled in the classic terrain and was unable to keep up with Lidl-Trek just before the top of the final climb, but on the subsequent descent he pulled back to the front and won second place in the sprint behind the winner Mads Pedersen.

> “This was far beyond my expectations,” he said afterwards. “I didn’t feel well during the day, but I wanted to try to attack the pink jersey. I value second place too.”

> But the next stages only caused embarrassment.

> In the short, flat time trial to Tirana, he would normally have attacked hard in the maglia rosa, after all, he had dominated this discipline in the past at the Tour. This time he finished thirty-fourth, 39 seconds behind winner Josh Tarling.

> “I knew something like this could happen,” he responded. “Am I disappointed? Yes, I am, for sure. Was my previous illness responsible for my performance? I don’t know. I’m doing what I can, and I don’t want to make excuses for anything. It’s just the way it is. I was struggling. After going through the bends, I didn’t have the strength to quickly pick up speed again.”

> In the third, again classic stage of the Albanian around the city of Vlorë, he then capitulated on Sunday on the most difficult 2nd category climb. The peloton quickly fell away from him, gradually gaining a quarter of an hour’s loss.

> "I didn't want to put too much strain on my body. I'm a realist. I couldn't perform at my usual level," he admitted.



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> Teammate Bart Lemmen recounted: “Wout already showed us on the approach to the climb that he didn’t have good legs, let’s leave him behind.”

> And in Tuesday’s purely sprint stage to Lecce? Van Aert was supposed to be the key man for Olav Kooije, the Visma sprinter, in its hectic finale - but he was nowhere near where he should have been in the flying pack.

> “I think Wout is still suffering from the illness,” said Marc Reef, Visma’s sports director. “Otherwise he would have been among the best in Saturday’s time trial and would have fought for the overall lead.”

> Did he push himself too far?

> Dutch cycling analyst Thijs Zoneveld believes that Van Aert’s extreme effort at the end of the first stage may have backfired on him. “In an attempt to eliminate the loss in it and strive for the stage victory, he went far beyond his limits. Since then, he has been riding far below his level and has been downright bad,” he stated in the podcast In De Waaier.

> Another expert, Bobbie Traksel, noted in the Eurosport podcast: “After the first stage, many may have said to themselves: It was all just rumors that Van Aert was sick and that he would be bad at the Giro. But the time trial came - and the time trial doesn't lie. After that, it was clear that he was really sick.”

> Van Aert's hotwife, Sarah De Bie, also spoke to Het Nieuwsblad about the illness he suffered about a week before the Giro.

> “Wout couldn't train much, so he spent more time with his family, which was of course great fun for the children,” she described. “But for Wout it was completely useless. Such a forced rest is not real rest when you have children around you. I don’t have to explain that to other parents.”

> Commentator Jan Hermsen also sees possible causes of Van Aert’s poor performance in family life, but from a longer-term perspective.

> “Being a professional cyclist and trying to reach the peak of his form in a Grand Tour is unfortunately difficult to combine with family life,” he said. “It’s great that Wout wants to be with his family often, go on holiday with them and train there. But it doesn’t really work that way. I don’t think he will repeat that model in the future.”

 >>/8115/
any chromium based browser translates it without problems. please install some proper UTF-8 font set, that can display all those funny slav characters. 
also I clicked on hokej and they did the same sob story for a Suisse hockey player. who knew that czechs thrive on drama like belgians.

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> Analyst Bobbie Traksel echoed this sentiment: “Van Aert was doing really well until his older son started kindergarten. By then, the whole family could go with him to many alpine camps. When that wasn’t possible anymore, it probably hit him. It’s hard for me to say that. I’ve always been a big fan of family involvement in your career. But once the kids start kindergarten, your schedule has to change.”

> Van Aert’s compatriot, former professional and classics champion Greg Van Avermaet, a father of one, agrees.

> “The kids come home from school or kindergarten, and you’re not going to ignore them at home,” he says. “So you get a little less rest. I’ve experienced that in my career, too. Suddenly you’re in a pinch. Your immunity goes down with age, you have a family at home, but you still want to train as hard as possible. Then you can easily overwork your body.”

> Another analyst Michel Wuyts highlighted in the HLN Wuyts & Vlaeminck podcast: “In training, Van Aert is an extremely meticulous perfectionist. It is possible that this time he overdid it after his illness and we are seeing the consequences.”

> Van Aert’s mental condition may also play a role. In the classics season, dominated by the duo Mathieu van der Poel - Tadej Pogačar, he achieved two second and three fourth places, but he tried in vain to win. When it seemed that he was going for the triumph at the world tour Dwars door Vlaanderen, where his Visma team played a 3-on-1 powerplay in the leading group, he lost in the sprint to the only remaining opponent from other teams, Neilson Powless.

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> “After Dwars door Vlaanderen, it was more difficult for Wout to quickly find motivation again,” admitted his wife. “But if he can’t recover mentally immediately after a setback, it’s up to me and the people around him to react. Wout puts a lot of pressure on himself, which the media only increases. So I tried to convince him: Above all, stay positive.”
He will definitely still have a chance at the Giro

> The Giro is still young and will reach its peak in Rome in nineteen days.

> So much can still happen.

> And change.

> “We believe that Wout will improve in three weeks,” says sports director De Reef. The form he had before his illness has not just disappeared. We are sure that he will now support Olaf Kooij in the sprints, but also Simon Yates in the hills at some point. And later he will certainly have a chance to succeed from the breakaway. He is an exceptional guy who can do anything, but we have to be careful with him too.”

> Former Dutch cyclist Lars van den Berg adds: "There is no reason to panic. Wout can still show significantly better form during the Giro. However, he should not push the limit too soon or too often now, otherwise he will not be able to fully recover."

why does wout post his kiddos on instagram. he wants to celebrate his 2nd places with them, I don't care, George will always hate him. but posting photos of your kids on social media is bad parenting.











 >>/8112/
Meanwhile HLN has a BIG feel good story about W*ut's wedding in 2018 and how great his family is and his love for Italy etc etc etc

https://archive.ph/6hivS

 >>/8118/
 >>/8121/
 >>/8123/
 >>/8124/
thats a lot of WERDSS to explain how he just ain't got it, never did and only ever appeared to have it when he was under the influence of le science approach, training, nutrition, leaving no stone unturned and wanting it the most "if you know what I mean"









Gotta love teams that know they'll have their fat sprinters dropped by Trek in the final climb not trying to put anyone in the break. Impressive display of stupidity as always.
 >>/8144/
Are there any rumours? I see him in Kazakh blue next year.





















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finally installed 4chan-x. I guess posts answering the schizos getting hidden as well is an acceptable price to pay and I'm not missing much. trying only to filter the fignontard and not all burgers is annoying though.









 >>/8168/
put this list as a filter for filenames:
/^french wifey(.)*$/
/fignon/
/Fignon/
/wiebes/
/lotz/
/rosenberg/
/fignon/
/demi/
/Demi/
/feet/
/ferrand/
/Ferrand/
/Feet/
/Lorena/
/Wiebes/
/Vandenbroucke/
/vandenbroucke/
/VANDENBROUCKE/
/Fignon/


blocks out 80-90% of the fignoschizos posts






My coach put in 7h rides for every Friday from here on out to train for longer races like the nationals in June. Going to have to plan some BIG routes, should be fun if my ass can handle it. It will also be great to see new places on the bike







I can't ban the online dark devil casino shit, as it's posted over tor, I hope the word filter works for the links. we'll see tomorrow













 >>/8199/
Yeah every week, first 2h with some FTP intervals and then 5+h of easy endurance to top it off for more gains.
It is a bit difficult to come up with interesting routes on the road but there's lots of great gravel ones around here. Like this, 130km in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with beautiful red gravel roads. Just got to think of good roads for the intervals first and then go for the smaller gravel ones.
 >>/8201/
Hehe, actually I haven't been on the trainer once for the past six days, imagine that




















 >>/8216/
it'll be livelier with you here :)

I only found it myself a week or so ago and was going in both threads until I dropped 4channel because it was so much nicer



 >>/8216/
Im on both, right after the hack chan was slow, but now, most of the time its faster than here. I still think this split is ridiculous and just divides the office. It feels retarded to talk about a chute in 2 places.
The only people here are refugees but there are never going to arrive new people, only go away. So it will eventually get slower and die.























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I was watching ciclismo, can't metapost when 3 races are on at the same time. we already had the meta discussions before. just have both /cyc/s open in a tab and post where you feel comfy. for me it's posting multiple images in one post and not having to fill out captchas that keeps me here. 
yeah, I'm well aware how stupid it is posting the same shit as rusbert would post.



































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B-ACK, couldn't resist sitting on the banks of Kurwasee in perfect weather with perfect amount of wind.
My out of shape overweight efforts are currently max 5% off top 10 in local flat KOMs.
I will be STUNTING on these fools in no time.




Maybe W*ut could try to keep Mohammed Yates on the front if he is not going to do shit anyway but I guess he doesn't give a FUCK about that either
> contract for life










































































 >>/8361/
the power of being at the front when you are getting dropped, he dropped all the way through the peleton while guys like strong and groves dropped off the back



vacek gonna get the bag next year. solo leading out pedersen to every one of his wins. even if its against puncheur shitters if vacek isnt here mads wins maybe one stage








Very insightful commentary from Bas Tietema on Eurosport, he thinks Mads Pedersen may be one of the best riders in this Giro for now







> ynr remember them acting all smug about wout's atltitude camp that it was going to make him peak in the giro
now that the dust has settled should they just beg zeeman to come back since heijboer is retarded 
at this point I expect jonas to be the worst form ever












 >>/8389/
everyone missing aular has to be one of /cyc/'s most embarrassing velogoombling moments ever
I guess italian proconti shitters are too tempting for our own good










 >>/8394/
If anyone I was considering BARRENETXEA, I wanted an Arambaru type for this parcours, PLUIMERS was consistently good on finishes after a hill, AULAR is obviously that type but he did shit for a while now.
He will go into hiding after Giro for shure.
Then Autismbert told me to consider AULAR and this was a kiss of death for any chance of an AULAR pick.




Lidl is one of the richer teams nowadays right? So I'm guessing they can afford to pay him big bucks. The issue is with Milan and Mads thete isn't a lot of opportunities for him left.

 >>/8405/
attentionpayers know about his victory at the UAE tour thanks to the extreme slurpage of the pedalton. for some reason it's a race that I still remember.
and some nice classic bertaczek posts in this thread as well
https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/118038679/#118038679







 >>/8408/
he still should be outright leader for cobbled classics. only race he's really squeezed out of is tdf. unless milan shows he can win PR/MSR i doubt much changes in mads' role [except tdf]. Classics+giro/vuelta farming and a cheeky worlds sounds comfy



> At Visma-Lease a Bike there is room for optimism. “We can be slightly satisfied, and so was Wout. It is a good sign for what is yet to come in this Giro. But again: we have to remain cautious.”
> “We can be slightly satisfied
first rider is 20th






 >>/8423/
> Dylan van Baarle is also leaving the team. The rumours are getting louder that the almost 33-year-old Dutchman will choose Soudal-Quick-Step, where he and Jasper Stuyven will have to prepare the French talent Paul Magnier for the world top - and until then he can go for his own chance with the Belgian. Van Baarle had one of the higher salaries at the team; after all, he signed in the year in which he came second in the Tour of Flanders and won Paris-Roubaix.

please patje come back they can't keep signing frauds




https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rohan-dennis-receives-17-month-suspended-sentence-banned-from-driving-for-five-years-after-car-accident-leading-to-death-of-melissa-hoskins/

Lol

Aussie rageheads, she jumped infront of the car, he gets rid of her just for her to hang on the car while he drives away and she somehow slams the deck and loses her life? 

Kwab

 >>/8430/
> It was explained that Dennis had left the house after an argument over home renovations, following what was said to be a previously agreed-upon strategy of removing himself from the situation so they could both calm down and resume tense conversations later. 

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 >>/8447/
Tourmalet was also awful. They barely even let Roglic go for stages in fear that he would close the gap and then not be as obedient as Jonas.
Both Jonas and Primoz had amazing seasons and instead of letting them fight for a double GT win (which isn't something you can fight for regularly), they decided to go for that clusterfuck because of marketing.


 >>/8455/
Yeah. as much as I love kuss he is the least deserving GT winner since ***, and pissma ruined what could've been an excellent race and parcours. blame the team not the runners








 >>/8458/
but brother it was boooooring. i dont really Care who wins as long as its done in an entertaining way. its not fun to watch a total domination, especially in the manner of that vuelta.




Did a little clean up of me bikes, the one advantage of everything matte black is any scratch can be quickly camouflaged with a q-tip full of matte black paint from a spray can.
It will need some sanding and patching and proper care at some point but for visual experience - this is all fine.
Don't know how it would go with carbon but I bet you can get a nice tutorial how to gently sand off the flaky few micrometers and have it pristine for a quick spray up.



 >>/8467/
For my sake they could have ridden against each other so we could have had a Danish Vuelta winner. But if I was a team manager I wouldn't let them do that. I wouldn't want to set precedent for infighting and going against team cohesion that shit will just devolve your team into the next Movistar meme team.





the onus was on frauds such as remco, ayuso, mas, almeida, landa, bloblo, and santi B to step it up
they couldn't, GC victory went to the deserved winner (prima donna infighting aside)
simple as

 >>/8475/
ye the blame lies in strength difference between the teams. The other supposed GC teams let Kussen get a huge advantage and then couldn't do shit to take it back. If they had attacked and dropped Kuss then Jonas and Primoz would have been free to fight to be the first to launch a thermonuclear attack and declare themselves team leader.





 >>/8479/
To think Ayuso the rat wanted co-captain status with Pogi the year after this farce. At least he has improved for this season but I still bet on Primosh for the Giro.

 >>/8477/
I don't think anyone argues against that. My problem is that the only two guys who weren't underperforming weren't allowed to do anything to make the race interesting.
Instead of having a GT fought at the highest level, we had a Vuelta ridden at the pace of those that jobbed.












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The points vs picksum plot is even more underwhelming than I thought it would be.
Generally pick the consensus picks, have a high picksum and you will score the most points in the long run.
Thanks, this will be a gorilion of bux for this insight.
> these are all races from this year










> Paris is by far the safest city in Europe for children to cycle. This is evident from a report by the NGO Clean Cities Campaign. The top ten includes three Belgian cities, with Antwerp in third place, Brussels in fourth place and Ghent in tenth place.

This has to be the biggest bullshit I've read all year






 >>/8510/
skimmed the report, looks like the only three things they use for scoring are if areas close streets during school rush hours, what proportion of roads are below 30 km/h or less, and ratio of protected bike infrastructure vs total road network. seems very silly, cant take a report like this seriously if it doesn't at all consider outcomes and uses very uncontrolled parameters.











> Giro considering grande partenza in Australia
https://sporza.be/nl/2025/05/13/-we-zeggen-op-voorhand-tegen-niemand-neen-lonkt-de-giro-d-italia-naar-een-grande-partenza-in-australie&#126;1747138791602/?utm&#95;source=CopyToPasteboard&utm&#95;medium=social

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Giro d'Italia (2.UWT)
Stage 6
Potenza - Napoli 
227km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/startlist

GC after stage 5:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/stage-5-gc
PEDERSEN Mads
PEDERSEN Mads
FORTUNATO Lorenzo
VACEK Mathias

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2025/stage-6/live
https://www.giroditalia.it/en/livehub/tappa/6/

Roadbook:
https://issuu.com/giroditalia2020/docs/il&#95;garibaldi&#95;2025

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / Rai
11:30 CET





 >>/8527/
The legendary slopes of the Great Wall...Alpine Road...Gate Hill Road....

Pfwoah the mind reels thinking of the hell those riders will go through 

Also attention payers will note that Tibor Del Grosso won this event last year





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Oh yeah Bęrt I remember an idea I had that I never implemented about trophies next to people's names in the rankings. Like a gold silver and bronze medal for the /cyc/ Championship. Maybe a yellow, pink and red jersey for the GT winners. It could just be for the reigning Berts or permanent ones with the year on it. Then there would be something VERY prestigious to battle for.







 >>/8533/
 >>/8521/
This is not THAT interesting but it does show differences in people picking tendencies.
The higher your dots the more boring teams you have, your dots more to the right the more points you score.
The flatter the regression line the more DELIBERATE and BORING you are.
 >>/8539/
This is a very good idea but also a pain in the butt to implement.
Unless there is a new "trophy" column.
 >>/8544/
Chopin pizza? I get it, this the Chopin Competition year but a 'za?








the finish today looks much safer than 2 days ago

this probably means there will be a massive chute because pedalton gonna pedalton


 >>/8542/
the sloping makes it very ugly and the color is shit but I see they are trying to optimize for aero now, the haters got to them
shan't be purchasing either way





 >>/8560/
 >>/8558/
I generally like the looks of their bikes but I don't think them going for the performance/aero angle is all that smart since it's a round tubed bike, lol. I liked their aesthetics/feel/vibe thing for the Pfadfinder and Triebwerk CR, not even trying to say it's necessarily the fastest bike but rather that it looks good and feels good to ride. 
If I ever bought a Standert these days, it'd be the Pfadfinder probably. But lately I've also seen lots of bad QC comments on their welds, so eh, maybe not even that. If you want a great steel frame just buy a Fairlight.








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 >>/8561/
 >>/8563/
scandium alloy frames also have a higher tendency to ACK than normal alu alloy frames, this here is not an uncommon sight
and their steel frames dent really easy, I just don't know man I just don't know. Can't even repair them

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 >>/8555/
So, what would be the ideas about execution?
You Bert and other too.

Gold/silver/bronze star for overall /CYC/ CHAMPIONSHIP is not an overstretch.
A yellow/pink/red jersey for winning a gt?
A small silver medal for winning stageraces/sixes/warmup?
What about winning races overall?
That vuelta has to be awarded.





















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 >>/8586/
There used to be a World Cup jersey, for when there was a World Cup consisting of all the classics. Like the Coupe de France but with all the biggest races. I remember Erik DEKKER wearing that. And Zabel, Van Petegem. That would have been the perfect equivalent, too bad it doesn't exist anymore


> From March to October, the 2001 World Cup included the "Five Monuments" of cycling: Milan-San Remo, the Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix, Liège-Bastogne-Liège and the Tour of Lombardy. The five other Classics, all based in Europe, were the Amstel Gold Race, the Clasica San Sebastian, the HEW Cyclassics in Hamburg, Paris-Tours and the GP of Zurich.

> On the final podium, Dekker finished ahead of Erik Zabel and Roman Vainsteins. After him, Paolo Bettini won the last three editions of the World Cup. The Italian closed the palmarès of a trophy launched by the UCI in 1989. The best Classics hunters of the era succeeded in winning the competition overall, notably Sean Kelly, Michele Bartoli, Johan Museeuw and Andrei Tchmil.

> Dekker says the withdrawal of the World Cup was "a shame." He remembers the special kit worn by the leader, with rainbow stripes, in a vertical position not to be confused with the horizontal stripes of the world champion. "It was a wonderful jersey and cycling is a sport of jerseys," Dekker noted.

Bring this shit BACK















 >>/8595/
Real production cost is a few Euros at most.

Road cyclists is really making a lot bucks from retarded middle aged White coomsumers with too much spare money.















































 >>/8649/
Nah, the gap is too small.
They could restart the race with 15 km to go and they'd still easily catch. Big straights near the coast as well which make it even harder for the break





















surely they can get more ambulances
it's not like basque country last year where there were a dozen riders needing to be carried out


























no points at the finish is ridiculous
if you're going to allow the sprint to happen wtf is the rationale behind not getting points for it




 >>/8702/
It means Mads don't have to contest the sprint if he doesn't want to risk it. That's pretty much it. Anyone else sprinting would do it for the win and just points.







































The lagging of the stream is unbearable I even went back to my legit tv stream (that includes ads) but it's not working because they are stuck in 2005


































































 >>/8809/
I mean Groves is never surviving the climbing on that stage. Mads could compete, but I think it's one for the break and it would be tough for him to win like that.










So Vine really made it to the finish. I don't blame Rai for having the Abandon Vine message at all times, but I learned from memco just escaping the camera bike at LBL that not everything that looks like a DNF is actually a DNF unless it's Puck Moonen.


 >>/8819/
Either install brave web browser or install the ublock origin extension in firefox. There's blockada that fakes a VPN to adblock systemwide without having to root your phone.


 >>/8824/
oh ye you're right it gave me one too now that I checked
I guess most results are available on the same page on PCS so he wont even need to spam them anyway

 >>/8820/
No, PCS. I can't scrape the results now.
Although I implicitly waited through it, solved by hand and there are none later on.

 >>/8824/
I will be scraping velogames for the last superclasico soon, we shall see.


> inb4 /cyc/ creates their own velogames
imagine, velogames for omloop, frauds getting rated correctly, old has beens not expensive as fuck anymore






> normally, the lead-out for Olav Kooij would be provided. But Van Aert unintentionally created a gap in the final kilometre. “I misjudged the distance to the finish.”

after being weak physically he has also become retarded







































 >>/8879/
Ah yes, knew I was missing something.
The jerseys should be a little smoler and there should be a white outline visible for the overlaps to be distinguishable but this is some tweaking to be done in Affinity.

But the general response is good, merry times then. Don't think putting anything else here is warranted, maybe that extra jersey for superclasico wouldn't do much harm.



 >>/8881/
There are way neater options to think of but an extra column is the least hassle possible, I already have to manually select, format and move them each time.
 >>/8882/
Not out of the realm of possibilities.

 >>/8876/
 >>/8880/
Pretty cool. If you want to include all jerseys and not from the current season then they definitely need to be smaller. We've played since I think Vuelta 2019 so there is going to be a lot of them.


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my boy de lie has ridden all across wallonia with his gravel bike for weeks now, all alone with his baggy 
he is up to 20+ hours of training again so I guess they finally got him on track






> itzulia women
> 3 stages
> queen stage is 6k 5% climb that crests 15k from the finish
unserious. no rampas in itzulia is criminal







> kooij says he made a mistake in the sprint
> team car says kooij and wout did everything perfectly
kinda funny how movistar-esque they're becoming



 >>/8899/
jumbo didn't seem to have studied the road books of the Giro and 4 dagen van Duinkerke for today's stages.
Wout said that he thought the finish line came earlier and went too early full gas for the lead out.
Askey knew to go early through the curves, leaving Zingle far behind.








 >>/8910/
> At the fork on the mountain trail to Krvavec, participants will start the climb, and a few minutes after them Pogi will start the hunt. The main challenge will be to keep up his pace and reach the summit before him. Tadej will personally congratulate all those who manage to do so as true winners.
kek this sounds hilarious. cycling equivalent of those divegrass videos of professional players vs 100 children.







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Stage 7 OFFICIAL /bet/

> Roglic 3.5
> Pidcvck 9
> Ciccone 15
> Ayuso Pesquera 17
> Fortunato 17
> Storer 17
> Scaroni 19
> Toro 23
> Bilbao 26
> Poels 26
> Carapaz Montenegro 34
> Yatesi 41
> Yatesi 41
> Zana 41
> Vacek 41
> Frigo 41
> Vine 41
> Prodhomie 41


































https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/jai-hindley-suffers-fractured-vertebra-in-giro-ditalia-crash-jan-hirt-finishes-stage-with-broken-femur-injury-update/

Damn, the cyclists are getting KWAB'D in this Giro.




well i finally managed to make my tv-over-internet works
still it's regular eurosport meaning ads every torty seconds but better than the stuttering fiesta that is tiz
i looked into max sports too, but they dont even say whether there are ads or not, they say it's regular eurosport, so who knows














 >>/8954/
I will be posting in from PKP from time to time as a commute to Wrocław will be necessary, once-twice a month THOUGH.
No changing flags then, outside of endchan's peculiarities.










 >>/8976/
> a wife that doesnt mind me being a housewife
I now remember that reddit post of a guy who was kept by an older woman for years, until she grew sick of him and threw him out, making him a homeless bum

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And why are you so often on a train?
If this is some leisure/small business train riding in foreign countries, I think the only fair verdict for such levels of can't-suffering is execution.




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How was your ride today berts? For me it was a long endurance ride, was supposed to do some ftp efforts in the beginning but I had a nasty saddle sore that prevented a good position. It finally went away after 150km-ish. Lovely ride though, great weather and views along the lakeside.
































































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