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tl;dr of the last few months:

> Mass shooters tied to 8chan (esp. Christchurch)
> Public pressure mounts against 8chan
> several companies on the technical end drop support for 8chan as a customer
> US Congress schedules a hearing for Jim, the owner
> Site is announced to go down until at least Sept 5 (yesterday)
> Posters (esp /pol/) scatter to all over the web, especially endchan, 4chan, 08chan
> Jim provides a statement that if 8chan comes back up, it will have new safety measures

Now is the time for us to reevaluate our situation. If there is credible reason to think that 8chan will be compromised when it comes back online, we should not return.
If not, is this our new permanent residence?
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I doubt that the admin of nanochan would allow a Christian board unless we had a sizable population move over, and even then the posters there would demand that it be excluded from the overboard, or deleted entirely.


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> Because the events of the Bible are matters of history, especially the life, death and resurrection of Jesus

What do you mean by "matters of history"?
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> I mean that the events truly happened

But how can you be certain that these events truly happened? I mean, there are many religions and each one tells that they are not myths, but only one of them can be true. What evidence do you have?
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I have the Bible, numerous non Christian NT era historians, and an overwhelming absence of contrary evidence that would be expected if the accounts were fabricated by ancient Hebrews. The naturalist usually says "there is an absence of evidence for x (an Egyptian captivity)" or "given this, it seems unlikely that x (a global flood) happened".
There is no cogent proof against an event of Biblical history.
Biblical archaeology is a great apologetic.

Given all this though, I don't personally inspect all ancient artifacts and spend a lifetime debating the historicity of biblical events. I know the Bible is true because I have been saved and indwelt with the holy spirit, like the Bible said I would be at the point of salvation.

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This is a backup board for /christianity/ in the event that 8chan is taken down.

> SFW only
> No spam
> No flood
> Only threads related to the topic of Christianity
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> The poor judgment of those people is not an inherent flaw in the imageboard, because imageboard use does not per se entail escapism.

Whether it be online LARPing, conspiracy theories, delusions of grandeur, or isolating oneself in the blanket of anonymity, anonymous image boards are breeding pits of escapism; with the exception proving the rule in classic fashion.

> Yes, there are imageboards...

No.  I mean imageboard websites as a whole.  Yes, I'm aware of some not quite as bad singular boards like /ck/ as you pointed out, but even on those boards, behavior endemic to image board culture as a whole rears it's ugly head.  Look at the top major boards on this site: The number one board consists of NEETS in Australia licking each others wounds; Qanon and several different flavors of /pol/; /b/ - the official board of people metaphorically flinging feces at each other like monkeys; grown men masturbating to anime lesbians and monstergirls and talking about My Little Pony; /rapport/ - which claims to be about conversation and women, but is just softporn....

>  Those are all good questions and exactly what I'm talking about. You would be ostracized in most churches for even asking the question of the morality of racemixing.

Those are all examples of repetitive bait and twisting of scripture like I said.  Every single racemixing thread consists of far righters, fascists, nazis, etc. taking verses in the OT and Apocrypha about Jews separating on a religious basis out of context to prop up their distorted views.  Just as far leftists, commies, pinkos, etc. take portions of Acts and the words of Jesus out of context to prop up their "Muh Jesus was a socialist who would never vote conservative" meme.  I've seen this exact same flotsam and jetsam play out time and time again.  It's not deep or thought provoking or civil.  It's the same feces throwing ad infinitim.

> The interdenominational debate is also productive, it's only the responsibility of the reader to know what constitutes a cogent argument and what's fallacious.

Same thing for this.  I've yet to see an interdenominational thread that didn't devolve into rancorous "debate" or just plain ad hominem spewing.

>  Facebook is the enemy, and you're naive. 

Missing the point.  If I can complain about LGBTBBQ on a site as blatantly pozzed as Facebook, why should I bother doing it on an imageboard/imageboard site with all of the noxious baggage that comes with it?  There are other legitimate Christian discussion forums that are not Facebook.

And yes, I'm aware of those signs of dystopia you listed.  I still see no real reason to view imageboard culture as some sort of "last bastion of hope" against such things.  If anything, imageboard culture is a symptom of our growing dystopia - people going onto online anonymous image boards to, in contrast to what you keep claiming, escape said dystopia, through online LARPing and the illusion of power and importance through conspiracy theories and grandiose fantasies of being part of the underground rebellion via kooky politics.   

> free speech is bad

Free speech itself isn't bad.  It's the noxious radical variety that is endemic to the anonymity of board sites like this, that isn't worth a hill o' beans.
 >>/140/

> that anonymous imageboards are necessarily profane and escapist.

They are.  Besides the top boards that I listed (not to mention just take a look at the top boards of any image board site, as well as behavior on even the so-called SFW ones), let's take a look at this very board right now:

-No posts in the prayer thread
-Nofap/Purity thread is basically dead
-Potentially interesting discussion and thought provoking heresy thread is basically dead
-QTDDTOT thread is basically dead
-One of the more active threads recently has been a literal Judaiser going over the same exact mental gymnastics that all Judaisers of Christianity engage in.
-The most active thread other than this one, the "Racemixing and Zionist" thread, is the same OT verses out of context argument that's been done a gazillion times ad nauseam that I mentioned earlier.

Probably the only good active thread is the meme and bread pills thread.

Honestly, I'm sorry if I'm being a Debbie Downer.  I started out on 4chan around the later middle 2000's (sometime before Project Chanology); migrated over to 8chan in the aftermath of the Gamergate fiasco; started hanging out on pre-Catholic Mafia /christian/ once I came back to Christianity; migrated to /christianity/ once the Catholic Mafia started bearing down; and while hanging out on Endchan following the 8chan crackdown, and while Endchan had it's upgrade downtime, I wandered and explored other imageboard sites.  Hanging out on /christian/ and /christianity/ for so long, I had forgotten just how degenerate imageboard culture can be outside of a Christian board, not to mention I had already started having nagging doubts even during my time on 8chan /christian/ and /christianity/.  So yes, I am quite cynical and weary of imageboard culture at this point.

There is a part of me that still wants to stay and fight the good fight, since there are so many people on image boards that desperately need Christ.  At the same time, I can't help but wonder if I need to wake up to the fact that imageboard culture is a hopeless Sodom and Gomorrah that I need to flee and not look back, lest I turn into a bitter pillar of saltiness, as seems to be happening now.
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> After exploring various other image boards, I've found that outside of a Christian board, anonymous image board culture as a whole is a cesspool of porn, fringe politics, edge-lords, trolls, petty slap fights, cynics and sadists and the proudly maladjusted. 

Yes and it's hilarious.
And it's not only that and it all depends on the place and your definitions of said labels.
Still if it perturbs you, you really shouldn't be around. This is the closet that great many shunned things have been shoved into.
Keep in mind however that Christianity started in a closet and soon enough will be pushed there again.
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 >>/139/
>  >>There is a dystopia around us
>  >What are you talking about?
circumcision

other such christian intrusions into matters of state conscience

I have all the /christianity/ banners. I can put them up when I'm back to my machine.
All my bans expired about two weeks ago. I'm not sure how I could share them even if they were still active anyway.
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Curses! Robbed of chances to be denied posting here because of your greed!  Don't you know that sharing is caring good sir?!?

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Not sure.  I've seen banners on the other boards on this site at dimensions much much larger than what I've seen on 8chan though.  Only the BO would know about precise dimensions for sure, so I can ask, but I imagine 8chan sized ones would be fine for now.

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Well, while we're waiting for a more robust/permanent solution, or possibly have to call this place home for a long time or for years even, we might as well start making it feel like home.

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread thread.
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I'm curious: why does the NIV seem to be one of the most despised or at least divisive translations of all time?  I know that the 2011 revision has gone full 'gender-inclusive' language and such, but before that, the 1984 and back versions seemed to be a pretty solid mix of formal and dynamic equivalency for readability, and had verse modifications in line with just about all modern English translations since the late 19th/early 20th century due to being based on earlier manuscripts.  

So why does it get so much grief, while, for example, the NLT ,which is even more dynamic to the point of outright paraphrasing at times, seems to not generate much controversy?
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Fair enough, though I've been noticing the NLT making more inroads lately.  Also, as I've said before, it has verse changes that are similar in nature to other more widely used modern translations, such as the NASB, ESV, NRSV, etc. I'm just curious why, even amongst the non KJVO crowd, it's ruffled some feathers even before it's 2011 revision  Is it really just a simple matter of: it's dynamic elements + popularity and thus widespread usage?
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It's fine. It was the most popular translation in my experience before the ESV.
NLT is openly a paraphrase.
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> NLT is openly a paraphrase

While The Living Bible, upon which it was based, was openly a paraphrase, the NLT reeled in things quite a bit compared to it's predecessor. While it definitely leans heavily into the dynamic range to the point of being a borderline paraphrase at times, it still maintains formal equivalence elements, and isn't quite as out there as The Living Bible. For example:

Proverbs 20:16 -

> TLB - It is risky to make loans to strangers!

> NLT - Get security from someone who guarantees a stranger’s debt. Get a deposit if he does it for foreigners.

 >>/61/

> NLT is openly a paraphrase

While The Living Bible, upon which it was based, was openly a paraphrase, the NLT reeled in things quite a bit compared to it's predecessor.  While it definitely leans heavily into the dynamic range to the point of being a borderline paraphrase at times, it still maintains formal equivalence elements, and isn't quite as out there as The Living Bible.  For example:

Proverbs 20:16 -

> TLB - It is risky to make loans to strangers!

> NLT - Get security from someone who guarantees a stranger’s debt. Get a deposit if he does it for foreigners.
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Anyone here delve much into apocryphal texts out of curiosity? I recently read the "Apocrypha of John" and it's insane. It claims that Jesus told John the real book of Genesis in which YHWH was a lesser god(created under what they call Mother/Father) that evilly created the world and humans. It completely throws out everything Moses told and admists to doing it. How do people believe this stuff? Do any of you know any interesting apocrypha to read. It's astonishing how crazy some of them get.
I never really read much apocrypha. I suspect it always has been a weapon forged against the churches, and remains so to this day. If anything it is an interesting knowledge to alert people to where the pegan and occult insanity comes out of.
This isn't unique to this text nor an isolated belief. Most Gnostic Christian groups spoke of a Good God and a Bad God, not much different from the God duality (as opposed to Trinity) of Zoroastrianism. Basically the God of the Old Testament was Bad and the God of the New Testament or Jesus was Good.

This POV was suppressed by the Nicene Christians, which is the strand that makes up modern Christianity.
I've read the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. It claims we're all human and divine, and other wacky stuff. I wouldn't waste your time with such heresies.

In the few hours after Cloudflare dropped support for 8chan, a few kind users offered help and gave alternatives to C0deMonkey to use. CM decided on two, one of which is used by the Daily Stormer, and quickly got 8ch back up. Unfortunately, the hardware provider for the two dns companies decided to play politics and took away server support unless they dropped support for 8chan. The whole situation is outright retarded.
Onionland is up and running but slow as all hell.

I have been reading a few slow AF loading posts. No new posts in onion land either.

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