/kc/ - Krautchan

> becoming either a travelling homeless or a "Nature man"in some forest.
Both are a good way of negating the need to faking it, and having it for reals.

 >>/34092/
im quite ready to Embrace that,but i dont think ill die.
ill probably live to be 100 or something

> live to be 100 or something
Sounds like a plan.

But why do you need faking your death? You can just disappear without it. Leave abroad where noone knows you, poof.

 >>/34094/
I just feel more comfortable being officially dead.

You probably don't need to steal a corps, fake it's teeth, arranging a fiery carcrash at the bottom of a cliff. You need to vanish and leave behind some hints for the authorities enough to make them think you're probably dead. Maybe hinting you drowned in a river would be easy, especially if it's fast. Just leave clothes and papers on the bank as if you were went swimming. Maybe some stuff as if you had an outing or something.

 >>/34091/
It will take more than a year of preparation, you need to know how to survive in each separate season. Even if you grow your own food, you are still dependent on what grows and where you can find food.

https://ia601205.us.archive.org/17/items/RayMearsOutdoorSurvivalBook/Ray%20Mears%20-%20Outdoor%20Survival%20Book.pdf
This book assumes a temperate Euro region.

 >>/34097/
If we are at it, he probably should read up on the North Pond Hermit.

Ok. Here's three Wiki article for starters:
The North Pond Hermit I mentioned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Thomas_Knight
Then Proenneke, who would have deserved the first place mentioning:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke
These two basically role models, tho I hope the second one will be really it.
The third example is a "how not to do it":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCandless
His story has some morals in it, so worthy to look into it.

Ray Mears  >>/34097/ is solid, also Mors Kochanski (RIP in peace sweet prince), I think both should have at least one book on libgen.

The chief problem is, that some level of material wealth is needed to do this - even if you try to rely solely on yourself (which would be extremely hard) - since when you start out you need at least some necessary equipment (clothing, tools, shelter, seeds, etc.), but maybe also for land to buy (which would cost a lot, maybe Russia has some incentive: buy land in the middle of Siberia for 1 dolla). To keep yourself alive, so a bad harvest or a failed trapping season won't kill you during winter you also need some income or backup money to buy foodstuff, unless you want to go the Hermit way of stealing and thievery.

https://www.notechmagazine.com/2020/04/self-sufficiency-defies-common-sense.html

this guy got it right (but its semi-civilized way)

1. you need capital to live off (material, such as house and tools, these will serve forever)

2. you need some property like land

3. you need SOME money to buy things you cant produce (salt, items, computers, repair etc)


if you have some 1000$ in youre bank account this might be enough for entire life, the rest you can grow or build or use

 >>/36991/
also its possible to work temporary if you need new income, you can find random temporary job and rise finances quickly

some call this approach early retirement, all you do is transforming 1 year of wageslavery into 5+ years of neet, or if youre income very big you can do it much faster

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I've thought about that too. Faking your death is not so useful though. If you want to live as a travelling homeless or a nature man then a small amount of cash would still be needed. To acquire this you would either have to do whatever work you could get to survive or rely on the funds you have saved before adopting this life. The second method is better in my view, but that can't be done if you are 'dead'. My Plan is to acquire enough in shares that the dividends would be able to support me. That's probably not actually that hard as the new lifestyle would not be too expensive. You would need around 20,000 to guarantee $1200 a year100 a month. This might be enough, with the stock market as it is your $20,000 will end up being more like $27,000-$30,000 though(in the long term once the current turmoil is over). Really I would want $100,000 to grantee a comfy hermit life.

 >>/36996/
Hmm, how did I do that? $test/

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there was a japanese monk that lived on a rock rate
more like at the bottom of mountain, and all he had was bamboo shed and some money to buy stuff from nearby village or bigger town


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamo_no_Ch%C5%8Dmei

 >>/36991/
Thanks for the link. Some titles catching my eye.

 >>/36998/
You might be interested in the Paulines. A Hungarian founded hermit monastic order, named after Paul of Thebes. I think there are Polish white brothers today so there should be literature about them in Polish too.

 >>/34091/
I had heard what you want to do is find someone around your age that might have died or disappeared and take their credentials. There ARE books on how to do this according to a brother of a friend of mine but they're hard to come by, he had a guy he knew that owned a small shop that sold marijuana paraphernelia buy it for him. You can probably find online nowadays or on TOR. 
Assuming you want some access to a bank account or the like you're going to need some credentials.

 >>/36996/
buy some land in bumfuck nowhere and grow your own food. thats really all you need.

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 >>/37614/
It's really not a good idea to do it all alone though. 

More people helping out means better outcomes for it. And a better outcome of surviving the wilderness

 >>/48099/
It's hard work, and doing alone it really is just too much I concur.
But it's hard to find reliable people, most who would be into such things are 1. paranoid schizos (and generally useless); 2. too egotistic and just want their own kingdoms and serfs serving them.
For me too is just nice fantasy, maybe a bit of escapism. Since have to tend the garden I have first hand experience that even keeping some order without actually growing enough stuff to keep yourself alive independent from other sources of food can be tiring and grows old fast. Same with doing manual labour of house maintenance and building furniture and stuff.

Maybe relying on animal husbandry as single source of food could be less work. Chicken and goats.

 >>/48104/
You could just also just build a farming community instead. It's much easier but no good monies

 >>/48202/
It's not about money. It's about self-reliance, survivalibity, retreat from the insanity of the world (like the constant hysteria that media forces unto us, or the chasing of wealth). The point is a calm and quite life. People in the city are fucked if no water running, no food arriving, no fuel for heating. People in the countryside can make or have all that. In the city you can't just go out and chop the tree in the park an build a fire in the middle of your apartment. You could grow a tomato in a pot but you could produce only so much food you can starve to death with that. If no electricity most professions are useless, just a bunch of hungry mouth looking for food and asking for trouble.
Problem is it's very hard to find similar minded people for a community of such. It's not just an aspect of personal life, like a hobby, but itself is a living. As I stated before. And alone it is a bitch.

 >>/48207/
Well that is certainly something to think about.