/kc/ - Krautchan

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It's all been good news with Milei as of late.
> Inflation rate of December was 25% compared to the projections that fluctuated between 30 and 60%
> Decree deregulated the renting market thus leading to more offers and reduced prices
> Prices in general are just regulating themselves. Chicken went from costing 12k pesos to 11k for example where I live (first time I ever see price drops irl)
> Law for single vote system is on the last course to be approved
> Jobs in public services have been reduced by 61%
There is an awful lot more but this is more than enough I think.

 >>/51510/
Inflation and the strength/value of a currency has lot to do with trust in the currency itself, in the economy of the country, and in the government. I think Milei (and perhaps what he represents) has supporters in the US, both in the corpos, bank sector, and US govt. who are easing his job by influencing opinions (and trust). What they get out of it is the lithium in Argentina, and independence from Chinese rare earth metal production.

 >>/51511/
It always makes me laugh when people try to mention meddling from the US or somewhere else, given that even JPMorgan was one of those who estipulated the high inflation rate for the previous month.
It really was a grassroot movement, which I thought were just memes
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULQd6JD3Knk
> What they get out of it is the lithium in Argentina
Good, the public sector has done nothing but sit on the lithium claiming sovereignty, which lead to a lot of opportunities lost to boost the economy and bureaucrats just getting bigger.
But it's not the US, the US can't even stand up to piss lately, it's the private sector. If it was for the US government they would possibly increase the support for Chinese infraestructure, with what Biden has been doing out there.
There has only been one senator from the US following the elections here, outside of that international meddling is just absurd to consider. Schizo trite.

 >>/51512/
Yes. Milei is an economic genius, and Argentina will climb out from the hole on her own, just by the work of the tirelessly diligent Argentinian people.

 >>/51513/
Yeah

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 >>/51515/
Well I would reply to the topic in earnest but I have couple of fun stuff to post about today.

First France.
The Prime Minister of France, Elisabeth Borne stepped down from her position couple days ago.
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240108-macron-moves-to-name-new-prime-minister-in-govt-reshuffle
Her chief problem was the new immigration law the "far right" forced unto them, tightening 
Here's contents of the law by Lemonade:
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/12/20/what-s-in-france-s-controversial-immigration-law_6361995_7.html
I won't go over it because I want to reach to the fun part in this post.

So the new PM is Gabriel Attal an openly gay dude, legally married to another bloke (made possible by a French law enacted in 2013):
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240109-macron-to-name-new-french-prime-minister-after-borne-resignation
The real fun part is this. France has a new Foreign Minister too, Stéphane Séjourné who is actually the "another bloke" from Attal's marriage.
I really like how the article below coyly says:
> Sejourne was in a civil partnership with Attal, France’s first openly gay prime minister, but their relationship is now believed to be over.
They were married. Did they divorce? Why can't France24 write this down plainly? This is the legal reality in France, what's their problem with that? Considering France24 is a leftlib media outlet.
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240112-macron-s-reshuffle-tilts-french-cabinet-to-the-right-ahead-of-eu-elections
Turns out homosexuality is just another tool for patriarchy to keep women away from the positions of power.:^)
I tried to look up some marriage photo but I have not seen any.

 >>/51516/
*"far right" forced unto them, tightening regulation

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The second happening is in Germany.
Farmers out on the streets and roads demonstrating, and preparing the largest protest since forever on January 15th.
The direct spark for the events is the (planned?) abolishment of the agrarian subsidies, along with the diesel subsidy for farmers. Their chief source of discontent is that the Red-Yellow-Green coalition commits agricultural suicide. The stuff below I heard in a radio interview so can't really give a source. I might try to find a webpage that represents the opinions and grievances of  the German farmers.

So.
They say the 70% of Germans live in the countryside but life there is frowned upon and country living is made worse and untenable (citing that all the services are closing, no pubs, shops, and even ATMs...).
Agriculture is still among the largest employers of Germany. Tho the wages are fairly low.
They have to abide more and more regulations. And they get more nonsensical. Recently the German govt. regulated the use of fertilizers in some areas they are forbidden to use enough for the need of the crops, so they reached a point when wheat started to lack so much proteins it cannot baked into a bread!
The current government has a Green agrarian minister who hates agriculture and blames agriculture for climate change. Essentially now they do everything to prevent German agriculture to be working.
Despite all the regulations on the home front, Germany imports more and more agricultural products, South America, and in particular Brazil was named, as the main source of corn - which is treated with chemicals that are banned in the EU and Germany for 2-3 decades now. Replying to a question the interviewee said that last year Germany bought record amount of grain from Ukraine, again treated with chemicals that are banned. Among these circumstances the German farmers can't hold against the competition.

I have to ask. Greens are complaining about the loss of rainforests in Brazil, if they ramp up imports from there, that encourages deforestation. How is this a greener solution than producing locally?
At the moment I couldn't find a good source on the internet, just this:
https://lsvdeutschland.de/
The spokesman of this organization, Anthony Robert Lee was the interviewee. Despite his Anglo name, he spoke German.

From that website above - link again: https://lsvdeutschland.de/ - translated this:

It can't go on like this, agriculture has to cope with more and more ill-conceived regulations and poor political decisions. Many of these decisions not only cost a lot more working time, but also cause high costs that can hardly be passed on.
Here are a few examples from the last 2 years alone:
- Reduction of the tax rate for flat-rate businesses from 10.7% to 8.4%
- Abolition of profit smoothing
- Cancellation of the investment subsidy of €195 million for the rapid reorganisation of agriculture desired by society
- Reduction in subsidies for agricultural social insurance and the employers' liability insurance association
- Higher CO2 levy, which will rise to 19.8 cents per litre by 2026
- 4% set-aside of productive land, without compensation
- Tightening of the Odour Immission Directive (GIRL)
- Expansion of the material flow balance
- Tightening of the erosion control register
- Lack of investment support for conversion to greater animal welfare, without safeguarding higher operating costs
- Lack of tendering volumes for biogas
- Increased damage caused by wolves, beavers, etc. Still no solution to date

Coppola things to mention, trying to make it short. It's foreign politics but EU "home affair", two in one.
This year we're gonna have EU elections for the Parliament. June 6-9.
Three plus one issues things revolve around these days: Ukraine, migrants, and LGBT stuff. These are the ones divides the opinions. The plus one is corruption, but it really isn't a thing people will decide who to vote for, it's just a thing to toss around while on the campaign. Like:
> Ukraine did great effort in fighting corruption
> Hungary is corrupt
> Hungary is not, we passed all the test
> EU is corrupt, Qatargate
etc.

Local (municipal) elections on the Hungary coincides with the EU elections. So Fidesz keeps it tight to get those votes, the opposition is weak, and foreign monetary support is getting cut from them. In 2023 the Fidesz majority parliament put the regulation into place and the institution was set up too.

And then, the in second half of 2024 it will be Hungary's turn to take on EU presidency, from the start of July to the end of December.

In Poland things are getting complicated as mentioned here:  >>/51236/ and here:  >>/51386/
The new government started a cleanup, getting rid of political opponents, putting them in prison (it seems unconstitutionally), and took over some media outlets. Voters of PiS are not amused.
Demonstrations are ongoing I believe. Also new government started with LGBT propaganda.
Fidesz-media here says the Polish opposition was financed by the Soros backed NGOs.

So Poland gets less friendly with Hungary. Orbán started to court Fico from Northern Hungary, the new populist PM, since Hungary needs an ally in the EU to veto decisions directed against us. Good move to be honest. I don't know how much favor actually we gain, but Fidesz-media talks much more about our northern neighbour than anytime before.
Oh, after Hungary, Polan will follow in EU presidency from 2025. So our govt probably will spend some time mending relations with them too.

And one thing from the other side of the ocean:
US presidential election in November.
If Trump wins, things are expected to get very interesting. It would be good for the Orbán government here, and the support for Ukraine would become questionable. Trump is more of a negotiator businessman. Or not.
I expect Tucker Carlson to talk about Hungary more, especially during our EU presidency.

At the same time the German farmer protests Romanian ones also went to the street. Now it seems Polish farmers are doing demonstrations, and Belgian too. I heard even French raised their voices, and apparently they did:
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/farmers-protests-slowly-spread-to-belgium/
> condemning that the EU imports products that do not meet the same standards they are required to respect under EU legislation
The problem is that EU regulations make production cost within the EU high. Outside the EU is unregulated, so producing there is cheap. Imports of the EU rose last year drastically, basically foreign foodstuff replaces local. Corn from Brazil, grain from Ukraine, vegetables from Kenya, fruits from Morocco. What is the point banning pesticides within the EU claiming they are unhealthy and bad for environment when outside EU they can be used and then we buy the treated stuff and eat it...
Cowfarts are made #1 enemy of the climate in EU. So they suppress cattle husbandry within the EU. Now have to import beef from the outside. However EU produces/produces 10% of world, what they do is just shrink this, and pass the market to the rest of the world.
Another fun part is, that large agricultural corpos move out and set up production elsewhere. So the Moroccan fruit is actually in the hands of Spanish companies, the profit of Kenyan veggies belong to Dutch ones. Who really loses on the business? Small farms ofc.
So basically this is their problem.

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So she  >>/46881/ resigned.
Career cut short after 2 years.
She issued some to some convicts, among them a dude who was the deputy manager of an orphanage where he helped his boss to cover up the boss's molestation of the minors housed in that institution. So wasn't even pedophile, but protests erupted and people around Novák started to back out - they couldn't bear the guilt by association by association by association by association... yeah I think it's a 5th level pedophilia there.
At the moment I'm not even sure that the orphanage director was an actual pedophile (ie: favoring pre-pubescent children) or someone who sexually abused minors who were above age of consent (14) BUT under his authority and care.
Anyway all scandals around child protection is a dent on the shining armor of Fidesz championing the safety of our children. She had to go.

I think I wrote elsewhere that as a President of the Republic she was mostly a mouthpiece for Orbán. I found her style, demeanor pleasant, she spoke English well and was someone media could report about (her foreign visits and such), so besides that she did not really represent the unity of the nation (as a Pres should according to the Constitution), but the standpoints of current government, I had no problems with her.
I'm curious who'll be next.

V4 plus Lithuania and Latvia are ganging together to protest against the flood of Ukrainian grain. You know, all these Eastern EU countries will always have and common interests, so any issue stands between them and there are interest groups who want to create divide, disagreement between them will always be temporary.
Romanian farmers also protest/ed, just as German, French, Belgian, and Dutch. With EU elections this year, this topic will decide many votes.

The US Dollar went below 1000 Argentine pesos recently.
Economy will recover itself soon enough, just gotta trust Miller

 >>/51736/
Soon Argentina will catch up to such prosperous countries as Venezuela.

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Hungary has new President of the Republic. He is called Sulyok Tamás and was the president of the Constitutional Court for a while. So he should know the Constitution well at least.
Has a bit of lisp, but his speech during his inauguration was fine.
He looks like Bibi a bit, hmmmmmm...

 >>/51737/
That would be if the monetary emission was left to its own, which it didn't due to this being stopped.
So far inflation seems to be slowing down from 25% in December, to 20% in January, and it is to be expected to go to 15% in February.
Prices are also going down but not in a direct manner. A lot of stores are trying to increase sales by discounts and other kinds of sales where you can purchase 2 for 1. They expected big inflation but because of this the market has to regulate itself now
Optimistic for the government, now my purchasing power just gotta increase. I'd be happy to see that happen.

 >>/51763/
To be honest our economy is getting into order.
It's really hard to know if it's the govt. work or just the global economy is returning to "normal"/average levels and drags national economy with it. Spectacular failures and improvements of certain countries' (eg. Argentina, Hungary) economy might be because their economy is more volatile than others.

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https://www-infobae-com.translate.goog/politica/2024/03/14/el-senado-rechazo-la-validez-del-mega-dnu-de-milei-pero-por-ahora-seguira-vigente/?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=es&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Senate has rejected the Decree of Necessity and Urgency that Milei sent this December.
This decree got rid of many state interventions that harmed elements of the market such as the Rent Law, which by removing it rents skyrocketed these last months. By abolishing the markets would take more time in recovering themselves thus the economy may suffer afterwards.
Now this doesn't mean that it would no longer be functioning, it has to go through deputies if it's to be abolished, but this is also the first time a Decree of Urgency is rejected in the senate in the last 40 years.
We shall see how things work out from here.

 >>/51785/
> sent in December
> they sat on it for bout three months
Hopefully for Milei Milei had time to prepare an alternative route to implement the fixing.

This really activates the almonds. And really typical behaviour, characteristic to Eastern Europe.
It's obvious no previous methods succeeded fixing the economy so now that someone wants to try something new - which might not even work out but won't make things worse - they make sure it fails before even trying, in their fear that it works out.
There might be some, who are interested in Argentine's economy never recovering, but others certainly sabotaging fixing attempts simply due their Pride.

 >>/51795/
Well Decrees of Necessity and Urgency work in an odd way.
Basically the executive power can send changes to the government without need of the congress. These changes technically last about 3 months until they're treated in congress, and if they're approved they stay, if they don't they're dismissed
> Hopefully Milei had time to prepare an alternative route to implement the fixing.
Basically he's gonna send the DNUs again but instead of having all the changes in one they would all be split in different ones. Making it harder/more time consuming to treat them.
 >>/51796/
> It's obvious no previous methods succeeded fixing the economy so now that someone wants to try something new - which might not even work out but won't make things worse - they make sure it fails before even trying, in their fear that it works out.
> There might be some, who are interested in Argentine's economy never recovering, but others certainly sabotaging fixing attempts simply due their Pride.
It's not really their pride, a lot of the changes that are being sent would cut drastically public spending, which is where a lot of money is funneled towards politicians pockets.

 >>/51798/
Okay, so the DNUs are a defined and regulated tools of government, I thought this is the name of his reform package sent to the legislation to vote on it - and the senate vetted out before it could have landed in the commons. So instead basically means ruling by decrees in time of necessity and urgency.
Ehh, Pride is larger than Greed.
> cut public spending
I think this term is a bit misleading. Governments still have to spend the income (taxes, tariffs, loans and printed money), they just spend it less on public institutions, bureaucracy. It's a reshuffling the percentages. They could cut back on the print and the loans, then shrink the spending in some areas.

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Apparently India invests heavily into Argentinian lithium mines. Great mileistone.

Also found this great video, uh the info about the Indian investment - I found it here first, then looked it up. This pajeeta has an interesting way of presenting the news, kinda thorough how she close on the the point what she wants to make.
Like about el-Sisi, section starts at 14:18 might edit out later. Basically she states the facts that el-Sisi was a general, become president of Egypt in a coup, despite this the - hypocritically - EU considers him a strategic partner and dumps lots of money into Egypt to curb the existential threat of migration.
https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=GMyr0dLJLxo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GMyr0dLJLxo
> The EU is willing to reward everyone who can help stopping migration
> They rewarded Tunisia's authoritarian leader Kais Said too
I wonder if this will lead to an emergence of another round of dictators, will see Libya a new Khadaffi?

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Europeen Parliamentary Elections is ongoing from 6 to 9 of June. This is when us Europeons cast our ballots to get rid of the most useless cunts in our country for 5 years by sending them to Brussels.
I'm not sure about other countries but here one topic, frankly the major topic is the Ukraine war. War or Peace!
Fun thing, this was mentioned by Wyatt of DPA, that the Ukrainian Defense Ministry does not give out reports these days, and he suspects it might be because of the "peace conference" and Ukrainian govt. want less bad news to talk about. I hit up DW to read about the peace conference, they sure mention it, but the "Ukraine" headline disappeared from the navigation bar at the top. This made me think maybe, the thing is hushed now because everything is a propaganda, and it is common practice that during the days of elections the campaigns are paused. Therefore they shut down UDM communications too for a bit.


I picked this image because that hand placing the ballot into the urn looks like a dispirited man gave up all hopes, or a peon bowing to their masters. Granted a bit too squiggly legs.

Here's official EU results:
https://results.elections.europa.eu/en/
I assume it'll get updated. It would be surprising if it wasn't.

Seems like the "right" won in yurop

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So. The Results on the Hungary (rounded to the closest) taken from here:  >>/52047/
- Fidesz 44%
- Tisza 30%
- DK-MSZP-P (socialists and "greens") 8%
- Mi Hazánk 7%
Others no need to mention.
The European Parliament composition for the next shift in picrel.
I might write later something.

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Here's the comparison between the previous and the next EU Parliament. This will change somewhat, for most are still "Provisional" results, but especially for the "Non-attached members" and the "Others" can find a party group to join. Fidesz is NI at the moment, and there were talks beforehand if they can join somewhere.
https://results.elections.europa.eu/en/tools/comparative-tool/

This website also has a handy tool for calculating majority.
https://results.elections.europa.eu/en/tools/majority-calculator/
Frankly this doesn't matter as much as for national elections because these parties don't form a government. The EP accepts or rejects laws proposed by the European Commission, and they vote however the fuck they want. So the party groups on the right might gained more seats, the EPP oriented towards the left so they can vote in whatever the left pushes currently.

Greens and Renew Europe Group (liberals) lost a lot of seats. I think trust in Greens fell due to agricultural issues and energy crisis. The libs perhaps has little to offer in current issues. I dunno.

Also what's up with Ireland?

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So when the results weren't even in completely but it was already sure that  Rassemblement National won bigly in France, Macron called a snap parliamentary election to show "the democratic" powers are still strong in France. Election first round comes in June 30th, second on July 7th.
His term as prez of France has still three more years, till 2027 May. He said:
> Far-right parties [...] are gaining ground across the continent.
You did that, Macron, you! You and your decisions, and acts along with your pals. If you did better people wouldn't be dissatisfied.
I'm sure he reads this and will learn from it.
Anyway.
The article below warns the obvious danger:
> Jacques Chirac called snap legislative elections only to see the left win a majority. This left him forced to endure half a decade in "cohabitation,"
We are at the half time of the current legislative cycle in. The RN could score the majority of the seats, crippling Macron's abilities to act - which could have been fine for two more years. But surely he did a quick count of the percentages of the following top five parties, which added up to 51-52%.
There are four more factors:
1. Frances election system might not favor the RN;
2. the Reconquéte party, another "far-right" group which could support RN, but can also take away votes. Marine Le Pen's niece, Marion Maréchal, is associated with that party;
3. The prez of Les Republicains party announced his party will align with RN, he was kicked out promptly, but now this shakes the party and have little time to reorganize, confidence drops, he might take votes with him too;
4. this is just EU elections, results shouldn't be taken that seriously.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/06/09/macron-calls-early-elections-after-historic-far-right-gains-in-european-vote_6674311_5.html

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Now that we are at that newspaper lemonade, fun map of election results in Urp:
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/06/09/2024-european-elections-results-explore-our-map-and-view-the-make-up-of-the-future-parliament_6674304_4.html
According to this Polan and Hungary are full fascist now, lel.

 >>/52056/
Thinking about it. This really reflects the liberal lie when they envision rightists surge and they beat the tamtam and scream danger. How they paint the actual situation "worse", how they inflate some minor change into a drastic tide.
Those far right various brown parties, the vast majority of them are conservatives. And the blue conservatives are left liberal, except they are in the EPP, which traditionally was the gathering group of conservative parties - but not anymore. Still they can be used as baseline conservatives even though their stance in just about anything (from "green" energy through LGBT to Ukraine war) is now "progressive". And if the baseline conservative stance is progressive, then anything not progressive will be far-right ofc.
It's like there is two dials above each other: the "stance" dial was turned to the left, the "label" dial turned to the right. Should draw an illustration but won't.

Watching US presidential debate.
Biden reads from the teleprompter. Otherwise he looks clueless.
But frankly Trump reads his lines too. And the whole thing looks practiced. The reactions to each other and everything. People takes this seriously? Is this AI generated????
https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=-v-8wJkmwBY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-v-8wJkmwBY

I learnt that:
> Biden is a weak Palestinian.

 >>/52124/
I watched it.

Neither of them really said anything noteworthy or talked much about what their policies actually would be. Mostly each person was saying that they ran the country well and the other person ran it terribly.

Yes they both sounded like they were reciting pre-planed lines and Trump would frequently circle back to the same points over and over again, like immigration. However, Trump looked like he was relatively healthy cognitively whereas Biden looked like a senile old man and frequently struggled with his sentences. There is talk that Biden is going to be replaced by another candidate because of that.

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Back to this side of the ocean. The EU summit - after the EU parliamentary election - decided about the fate of leading offices.
President of the European Commission: Ursula von der Leyen again. We know her, we love her.
President of the European Council: Antonio Costa, ex-prime minister of Poortugal who had to resign due to corruption scandal related to:
> handling lithim mining and hydrogen projects (sauce: wikipee)
Oh that green energy and batteries is a damn real good business. He worth his salt that for sure. He is a "socialist" except when it comes to his own pockets politician, who created an alliance from the Left Block, Portuguese Communist Party, and the Ecologist Party "The Greens". Talking about far-right turn in the EU, right?
High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy: Kaja Kallas, the PM of Eesti. The most Hawkish bird of all. She is very liberal which means more weapons, more war these days, for some mysterious reason. Okay I know why Estonians hate Russia. The pretended surprise is not for this.
So she has very anti-Russian stance - this will impact EU's foreign politics stance obviously - but not her husbands who pocketed a nice sum by running transports to Russia with his logistics company when EU countries enacted the sanctions. I think we noted this here on /kc/.
She is also notable for an arrest warrant against her in Russia. This'll make it impossible for her as a foreign affair diplomat to visit Russia. No advancing peace talks on behalf of the EU.
Apparently 'kaja' means echo in Estonian. Oh, she'll echo all the words that'll be given into her mouth.
Such an illustrious trio. The fate of the EU is in good hands.

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And a third thing, related to both sides of the ocean.
The previous PM of Netherlands, Mark Rutte, was selected to become the next Secretary General of the NATO. Another "liberal". He is well known on the Hungary about his verbal shittings on Orbán and our government - which makes the generic Fidesz voter seeth, and the generic opposition voter wet. He really is a staunch supporter of pumping EU's wealth into the US on the pretense of "supporting" Ukraine.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_227064.htm

So all in all, those who expected that things change this year, they are getting disappointed. Just wait in November they elect Trump, and will send more weapons and even troops somehow to Ukraine.

The snap election in France I mentioned here  >>/52055/ is taking place now. The first round was yesterday. The parties compete for 577 seats - 289 is needed for majority.
The result of this first round:
33.15% Rassemblement National (National Rally) - Marine Le Pen's party
28.14% New Popular Front
21.27% Ensemble - Macron's party
6.57% The Republicans
3.66% various independent candidates
The rest doesn't really matters.
Marion Maréchal's party the Reconquéte got only 0.75%, their voters probably support the RN.
At the moment 76 candidates were elected directly, they got enough votes to secure their seats. Now in the rest of the constituencies they'll hold the second round, this Sunday, on the 7th. The top 2 (+1 eligible if any) candidates in each place will compete.
I highly suspect the RN will fall short from the 289 - and the rest, the socialists and the various liberals will create a large coalition to get the majority, and that's that.

I wonder if RN takes the seats that needed... will there be protests, and how bad?

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UK held legislative election yesterday. And I'm shitting meself. Here's the three major party blocks' results:
Party  | 2019 votes 2024 | 2019 seats 2024
Con.   | 43.6% -> 23.7%  |   365 -> 121
Labour | 32.1% -> 33.7%  |   202 -> 412
Lib.   | 11.6% -> 12.2%  |    11 -> 76

So the Labour with 1.6% and the Liberals with 0.6% growth could pocket 270 seats more.
So their support among the population barely grown (especially for the liberals), simply the voters lost confidence in Sunak and the Tories. Especially that Sunak was just put there noone voted on him on the first place. But he had to take over the PM position because all his predecessors failed spectacularly.

I tried to look up the key issues where the candidates could represent differing opinions.
Reuters here:
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/britains-big-election-issues-2024-05-22/
lists: cost of living, healthcare, housing, immigration, sense of decline, and climate. No Ukraine or Israel, you know, Bernd, topics that really divides opinions.
Some of the outliers like Farage and others talked stuff like:
> Russia just reacted to NATO encroachment with the Ukraine war
or
> the army should sink the boats of migrants
Both Sunak and the new guy Starmer looked disapprovingly to these ideas, and from what I see there is no difference between the Labour and Conservative (and the Liberal) parties between anything they just tried to overbid each other in the "I-can-fix-the-country-better" race.
Probably the difference is that:
> my millionaire Labour candidate is literally a prole next to the billionaire Tory one, so I vote for him he's literally me

 >>/52156/
The British economy and also government institutions are facing a lot of issues right now. The British government gross debt is at 104% of GDP, due to this and rising interest rates the British government spends more servicing it's debts than it does on defence. The Conservatives tried to cut back spending but that has not worked and it's also damaged government institutions like healthcare. This has been made much worse by Covid and the war in Ukraine as well.

The public really isn't happy with the Conservatives but I don't think it's their fault and I don't think Labour is going to change the situation much. They will probably spend more on welfare and healthcare which will help the people in some ways but will further increase the debt issue. They also want to lower the voting age to 16 which is stupid but that might just be talk.

Housing is an issue and it's tied to immigration. We have the same issue in Australia. But a labour government is less likely to do anything about that and so housing is likely to remain an issue.

Ohh an another thing that labour wants to do is to spend money subsidising green energy and Electric car productions. Again that's more money that Britain can ill afford but also government subsidies just create industries dependent on the government for support, the simple truth of the matter is that if it was financially viable to make solar panels or EVs in the UK than the market would be doing it. Though their are strategic issues at play here too, the west is unhappy about China's domination fo the Solar panel market, but really, let the US deal with that, let them subsidise solar panels and we and Britain can buy those cheap solar panels from them. Making solar panels ourself is just a waste of money(though we can afford it, Britain cannot).

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> US deal with that, let them subsidise solar panels and we and Britain can buy those cheap solar panels from them.
> cheap solar panels from the US
Cheaper than British. But even with subsidies, they can't cheaper than Chiner.

 >>/52159/
It depends on the size of the subsidies but also on what kind of tariffs nations will introduce on Chinese solar panels. I'm fairly confident the US will place tariffs on them, Australia probably won't though and Britain could go either way.

 >>/52163/
Still can't cheaper than China.
What you are saying is just buying overpriced solar panels which people will glad to buy for their own government make them buy the competitor's expensive.

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French election happened yesterday. Charts by lemonade.
Comfortable win for all but not RN. Macron wish to show "democratic" powers are still strong as written here  >>/52055/ is fulfilled.
RN fell not just short from the necessary ~300 seats, but way short. They got about half of it.
I highly suspect Macron and co. (and even Le Pen) already knew what will happen. I think this is also a media stunt to chill those who would side with the "far-right", to put back into their places.
The greatest joke is this alliance of all the socialist parties, from communists to socdems. Really show how socdems babbies will always run to the tanky daddy to defend them from evil fascists.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2024/07/07/2024-french-election-results-chart-and-map-of-second-round-winners_6676976_8.html#

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What a mess.
So basically France is going to be without a function government for several years. Though theoretically the centre could ally with the right and form government but that does not seem likely. The central PM already resigned.

So then there is probably going to be a PM form the left who is representing a coalition of various factions that can't agree on anythign and on top of that need the support of the centre or the right to do anything anyway and on top of that the centre and the right can potentially up end everything and form their own legislation without the left agreeing to it at all(maybe, I am not sure how French government works and whether opposition parties can put forward legislation or not).

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The left (purple and pink) with the liberals (center, yellow) will form a grand coalition, perhaps including with the "conservatives" (on blue).
Fascist brown shirts will be left out.
It would matter if there would be ideological differences, or different views in key questions, but they all agree on everything.
Besides a modern democratic state in the EU doesn't need functioning government at all, and perhaps not even a functioning parliament (they'll all vote yes on the matters the economical factors want them to vote yes anyway).

I was wrong, the PM always resigns, that's just a formality. So he could still come back as PM. But yes I don't think it will be in a Centre-Right coalition. Maybe the Centre will work something out with the left or at least parts of the left.

 >>/52173/
I honestly didn't check what the campaigns and proposals of each party were. So I am not sure how different they are.

Like the UK France is also heavily in debt but the French government is also much more integrated into the economy than it is in most nations, both of those aspects are fairly left wing so in theory there would not be much change to it. I certainly don't see a left wing government reducing government debt and reducing government integration in the economy.

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The EU Parliament votes soon if von der Leyen gets another term as a prez of the EU Commission (which is basically like a government, its the executive branch within the EU institutions). The term is for 5 years.
Result will be in about two hours.