/kc/ - Krautchan

Based Dr. Raoult striking once again.

There was a pretty crazy theory from Soviet scientist Porshnev, who stated that neanderthals/paleoanthrops "created" humans/neoanthrops (like domesticated animals) and used them as food. They've used suggestion and language to control them, and that was one of reasons for language evolution.

Those who think that he was right now say that this system may work even today, although in different style.

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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpsylib.ukrweb.net%2Fbooks%2Fporsh01%2Ftxt09.htm

As always, EC breaks links. Here is first one:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/О_начале_человеческой_истории

 >>/41120/
That's a novel idea. Just by the sound of it makes me remember Planet of the Apes.
Also when the disciple surpasses the master.
Also can be an origin of the creation legends.
Gonna check it out.

 >>/41120/
Alot of the facts does make some sense. Another interesting soviet guy who wrote on a similar topic is ernst muldashev. his book where do we come from is a good read.

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 >>/41080/
IIRC, the Neanderthals were the smarter and more sophisticated of the original human species. Even having softer facial features and being very inventive.

They lived peacefully until the Homo Sapiens, who were more savage and violent, invaded and raped them into extinction. The people that came out of the rapings would be the current people that inhabit earth. I think I saw that in a TV show or youtube video once

 >>/41197/
Those reconstructions have to be taken with a hint of salt tho.
> more sophisticated
Their tools were more crude. Well what we know about, stone tools. Large shortcoming of archaeology that only in special circumstances preserve organic remains. Certain building materials can disappear too (eg. adobe).

 >>/41120/
> The possibility of using the biomass of animals that died naturally or were killed by predators for food was provided by a tough instinct that did not allow him to kill anyone.
This sounds familiar.
Since it's not the actual work of Porshnev it's little short on actual data (for example up to the 6th page - where I am now at the moment - zoological data is frequently referred to, but it isn't really there to know what is that data), and more on opinions, but an interesting read nevertheless. Now I have a little time, but not sure if I'm gonna finish, some stuff to do before it gets dark outside.

 >>/41120/
good text im reading it

Read some of that google translated article but haven't reached much further. Some articles about primates and how they perceive death, some observed behaviour; posting it since they are related to the early humans and their possible cannibalistic tendencies (in the article about Porshnev's work it's part of the scavenging habits of theirs).
https://www.livescience.com/6335-chimps-understand-mourn-death-research-suggests.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/gorillas-appear-grieve-their-dead-180971896/
So while it is known that primates sometimes consume deceased adolescent specimens, but it seems it depends more on circumstances. Furthermore they differentiate between the ones belong to their own group, and outsiders. And even outsiders aren't necessarily considered as a food source (the gorillas - the examples of the second article - are largely herbivores).
And one about Neanderthals and nidal and their burials, and possible burials.
https://www.sapiens.org/culture/hominin-burial/

The whole thing made me think if the notion that death is sleep roots in some taboo that we shouldn't eat the dead belonged to our group. "Stop my son, don't chew on grampa's toe, he is just sleeping!"

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Made a pdf from the Google translation.