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 >>/42244/
zoomer:
> something something country something something Germany
boomer:
> something something
Ebin.

 >>/42242/
Join Hungary. We'll save you as we did for ~800 years. In return you can save us as you did for ~800 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Democratic_Union
Yeah, it's like Fidesz, with better reputation. And when I say better I mean they aren't called anti-semite and such.
 >>/42242/
> croat bernds... how do we SAVE croatia?!

-1 move to Western Europe to works
-2 Save money and send some back
-3 Make a business and export it back to Croatia

Problems weren't
 >>/42256/
> adversaries of shaytan
Ain't that a good thing?

 >>/42257/
> saving moneyz
> on the west
Sure, if you work 14-16 hours a day (12 on Saturday, 8 on Sunday) and you share a Sardinia can as a sleeping storage place for a night with a dozen other slaves.
One can save by getting Western moniez, and living in the East.
 >>/43510/
Well, to seriously answer, these days the Eastern EU countries are basically workforce and consumers for Germany. Divided as we are now, we all are a bitch of theirs, "together but separately". But having some kind of close cooperation, we could step up for our interests, like how labor unions do for workers (in theory).
Ofc our problems are deeper than this and we all suffer from the inside.
 >>/43518/
Literally nothing. Maybe they can be sour that instead an Austria-Hungary-Croatia Triple Monarchy only an Austria-Hungary Dual Monarchy was made. Otherwise there were literally no issue. They had their legislature since forever, Croatian business was Croatian business, despite their kings were Hungarian kings.
The Habsburgs pitched them against us in 1848-49. As elsewhere I noted, the royal family profited from the multi-ethnic empire by using the ethnicities to keep each other in check. Reminds me that today multiculti agenda is pushed so while the people with various cultural backgrounds mixed together are busy with each other, some people on top can exploit them. Divide et impera.
In the end they even got lands from us that was never part of Croatia.

Reminds me. It is little discussed fact that in the Habsburg empire the Court used state propaganda, censorship, secret police, and informant networks to reach its goals. They used every dirty tricks what was available in those times.
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 >>/42242/
Does Croatia still have their migs? They need to maintain a army. Also, they need to get local industry. Techocrats think big stuff that is depedant on gobal networks, NO. Make your own iron forges even if primative at first and than work up...

Seriously though, if I was running one of these small countries I would be isolating myself from the gobal network, not joing it.

 >>/43513/
All the people I know from south and central europe where very picky about calling it eastern europe but what do I know? I am a humble carrot.
 >>/43540/
They had a large impact. But - if being unbiased - I can't say categorically they were bad for Central Eastern Europe. I don't know what would have happened without them, so no basis of comparison. I know however what's going on now and I believe it could be so much better. If I define "better" as a more independent, self reliant Central Eastern Europe, with higher living standards (although I see problems with this living standard thing - for example being indebted forever and capable to buy a new iShit and bluetooth refrigerator every month and having three cars per family counts as higher living standards?)
Could have been the nations turning on each other here prevented? No. Different constellations of the nations could have rise (instead of Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia), but simply just the "who will be the top dog in this region" would have caused wars, most likely with the tint of ethnic hatred after the birth of the third large political ideology, the nationalism.
I don't blame nationalism, because it is great for uniting people to act together for a common goal based on common interest. But it's easy to fall over to the other side of the horse and hate on the other group just because it's another group. And lotsa people don't have that maturity to see that other people can love their own, how we love ours, and respect that, and can't see that cooperation can exist between these groups.
So Habsburgs exploiting this shortcomings of the people, especially in those times when nationalism was young and it was very much alive, its flames rising high, is unfortunate but it's just a different kind of bad.

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