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I think about your theory (if you can even call it that at this point) of two main cults in conflict forming a globe-spanning ideological dichotomy often. Like how a certain argie newspaper that used to be aligned with all of the traditional conservative values changed hands and now it's fully aligned with the standard woke "orange man bad" agenda instead. There is no inbetween or nuance with most media outlets or works of fiction (aka veiled propaganda). It's an evident dichotomy
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I'm hearing the Captain Disadvantaged movie is destined for self-parody greatness. Apparently they've done tons of reshoots, fired the director and the budget ballooned big time even though Red Hulk and the movie's aesthetics in general look like shit. Seems like it's going to be a real stinker on par with She-Hulk or Avengers Endgame. and then OTOH you have the Daredevil reboot with the original cast including Deborah Ann Woll which seems like the most promising capeshit on the horizon. the Superman movie could be good but there's no real precedent there like there is with Daredevil and then even less so for the Supergirl one
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Morning.

 >>/60950/
Insofar as the masonry, that is very much recorded history. You basically only have to follow which rites took over where, and what they were based on. Oriental Rite(Sufi), Scottish Rite (Templar), the Thelema(Egyptian) Rite and so forth.
Masonry is commonly described as the ancient 4chan, an "open" temple in which the schizos dispute their beliefs/secrets. It's also just the cult of the oligarchs, there are cults above those cults.

Insofar as their methods, the truth is that they are dumb. They aim to install a whole belief system and language to reproduce the enlightment of the prophet. The Jungian individuation method is FAR superior by using your own existing belief system and inner language. It also does not rely on possession.
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Morning.

 >>/60969/
Individuation for sure, that's what I been through way back. 
Transcendence is the whole life/multiple lives thing. Which I personally don't even pursuit.

Individuation is unification of our rational mind with the animal body. Reason, nature and nurture working together to surpass the limits of each of them.

Transcendence is metaphysical escape from the material world, be in life or after death.
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 >>/60972/
I don't mean this as a personal attack against you at all but maybe if you developed stage 4 bone cancer and your mother came back from the dead more dependent on you than ever before then you wouldn't "surpass" your "limits" so much anymore. My understanding of the process of "self-realization" or anything similar enough to it is much less optimistic than yours. Yes I'm aware of the different parts that constitute me, no that doesn't make me an ubermensch, it makes me a loser with more awareness than he used to have. I actually don't think there's anything wrong with being that btw. Even better, I don't feel like there's anything wrong with being that. Or with the sunshine and rainbows self help book for women view of it, for that matter. I just think some people like to rationalize things happening in their lives through Jung's theories when from the outside it really doesn't look like that at all. I wish my shadow would show up at my room and tell me what lottery numbers to play or something that'd be great. I hope this didn't come across as me being jealous of your fancy new job because it's only like 5% that and 95% me being the usual argumentative autistic insufferable downer piece of shit
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I'm not talking about therapy and positive thinking.
I'm talking about Jung's Red Book. The process of ritual self-initiation, complete annihilation of one's identity to rewrite it.

In the Jungian path you have to:
> achieve active imagination (or lucid dreaming)
> confront all of your inner darkness (the shadow) via it
> dissolve the shadow and the self in however many facets it takes to filter what is "real" and what is not
> rebuild them into one self in its multiple aspects

It's fundamentally the same as the Masonic path, but the rituals and processes are done "in your mind", rather than in real life, and done with whatever is already in your mind.

In the masonic path, you do real life rituals to affect the mind for either the same purpose, or for possession, depending on the rite.
That means stuff like, ritualistic deprivation of sleep, food, water. Taking all sorts of drugs. Being beaten, raped and tortured by others in order to form trauma. Torturing, raping or killing others in order to traumatize yourself. 

That kind of thing does happen in your mind as you confront your shadow.
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That's why I like Suzanne's approach better. She's just like lmao who tf knows bro let some other fool try and figure it out. Maybe my loser-ness just makes me biased because that anti-intellectual non-theory of the mind is more friendly to losers whereas a lot of Jungian content on the internet is served by 6' 4 Chads living in chateaus or Slavic girls with superhuman T&A suffering from the same type of survivor bias. Which is not Jung's fault at all obviously I think he had undeniably the most genuine insight out of anyone in his field 

 >>/60975/
> Book
Books? What kind of person do you take me for?!

I must not be very good at rotating traumas in my mind. I feel like I only got somewhere in terms of subconscious learning once I had physically experienced both sides of it. I had to fill up my traumadex without the gameshark codes like a pleb
 >>/60975/
Sounds like manager training. In the 90s when multis appeared here those who went management were sent to these. It was literally emotional torture to break them down, and then they built them up again.
I guess a type of brainwashing to get the desired mentality.
Heh, for some reason the "socialist human type" came to mind as I wrote this. The desired personality.
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You can't read the red book, its not written in human language.
https://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Red-Book-Jung.pdf

A lot of people waste time analyzing the specific worlds, archetypes and stuff he described, but that is not the point, the point is the process itself. Every person will have a completely different inner world, at least insofar as how it looks and what is manifested in it.

 >>/60979/
Its similar, but in the case of coaches, they limit themselves to making the "animal self" trust them which gives them power to enable the athlete to surpass his limits (via belief in the coach).
The masonic methods of possession use belief in an immaterial being that is beyond human (like say, an guardian angel or a demon), so the belief in that being unlocks far more power. And the human brain has a LOT of undirected computing power. That being also has its own "mind" within your mind, and memories recovered from past possessions of it documented in books or orally in the case of person by person. (Like the Dalai Lama succession line).

The Jungian method is something beyond that.
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Thanks, I will contact you soon ish

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Nice sexy wide shoulders. and I say this as someone who is not gay and into biological females only

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She put out a new video today
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I am currently playing around with creating custom models for LLMs based on other models. the prompt crafting and fine tuning is fun

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Thomasin's face is so pretty. if waifu bot creation becomes doable i will model one after her, she has the right look for one
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The Philosopher Stone is said to be the goal, which is an understanding/technology capable of both giving you power to manipulate yourself(mind)/others into any form you desire, as well as matter itself: 

> In alchemy we essentially see an amalgamation of ancient Greek science and chemistry (using the primitive periodic table of Fire-Air-Earth-Water) and the attempt to transform the individual human being using esoteric techniques. If physical objects could be transmuted from one substance to another—if lead could be turned to gold—then the human soul could likewise be transformed from a base state into a noble, godlike state using analogous formulas.

> In fact it is far more accurate to see no distinction between the so-called physical and spiritual transmutations because both of these apparent categories of being belong to the same unity. Physical gold and perfection of the spiritual being are both reflections of a single higher symbol—the light. This idea, quite esoteric in the West, was well prepared for in the Islamic world with its essential doctrine of the oneness of being (Arabic wahdat-al-wujtid).

But I postulate that it is more than that, power in itself has no meaning, but what is to be gained is meaning itself.
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Many people. Before the crisis of faith, Christianism was effectively a mass religious system that could offer that to anyone who went to church regularly. This is why it was so widespread and huge.
But as our cognitions developed and the noosphere got flooded with materialistic science, that system doesn't work anymore and we returned to need more complex esoteric initiation systems (or true mystic experience paths) to have the same effects.

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