/ratanon/ - Rationalists Anonymous

Stealing from the tip jar seems like a plausible lapse if one is sufficiently sleep-deprived. Immortalizing the mortification in a blog post seems more puzzling. But what I _really_ want to know is why Aaronson decided to move from MIT to Texas, of all places—that decision really baffles me.

 >>/5176/
Dijkstra had good things to say about computer science at Texas.

 >>/5115/
Okay, but how much do we need to spend on malaria nets to make Scott actually review Bronze Age Mindset? It can't be that high.

 >>/5132/
I'd rather have him review other non-normie books that aren't shit.

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I want him to review the Gorilla Mindset

Do you have a link, and did you read the full thing? It sounds too juicy not to be taken at least a little out of context.

Alright, I looked it up.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/23/17772056/south-africa-trump-tweet-afriforum-white-farmers-violence
Half the article is spent explaining that it definitely isn't true. It doesn't leave open the possibility of it being true.
Then it says that Trump has agencies at his command that could give him accurate information on demand, to make informed decisions.
It combines those two things to argue that Trump must have immediately directed the secretary of state to look into it, and made a public announcement, without making sure it's true.
Only then, at the very end, does it use the two paragraphs you quoted to say that that course of action is bad in general.
Poor wording, definitely, but not nearly as objectionable in context. They didn't put this part at the start of the article either, so it's not the usual headline-style motte-bailey switcharoo.

I initially wrote a gigantic shitpost of a reply but I deleted it.
The ending part which I posted doesn't add anything to the article and it makes absolutely no sense. It's even worse in context.
> wow let me just treat this subject and then say it's irrelevant if it is actually true or not even though I said it's not true because Trump saw it on TV on a channel that didn't shit on him non-stop during the elections.

The writer is just retarded and should be fucking fired but we are living in the age of journalism soft shitposting so maybe it's just bait.

> Trump is now basing US foreign policy decisions on a fringe white nationalist conspiracy theory
> writing a tweet is a US foreign policy decision

Space is extremely empty, and there are natural signals to compare to.
I haven't done the math, but the chance that people involved with SETI haven't is nil.

No. On cosmological timescales the time between a technological civilization arising and them conquering the galaxy is essentially an instant. Detection through broadcast is just a red herring. The existence of isolated technological civilizations just happening to come into being at the same time as us is extremely improbable.

 >>/5044/
this
Exponential growth is one hell of a drug.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/03/ssc-journal-club-dissolving-the-fermi-paradox/

There is some discussion at https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/17765/from-how-far-away-could-our-seti-searches-detect-and-recognize-our-technological .

Apparently, we do not yet have big enough radio telescopes to detect "leaking" Earth-like radio signals from another planet, so SETI  hoped to discover an intensional signal. For example, many early SETI efforts searched for a radio signal around the "water hole" frequency, hoping that would be a Schelling point for trying to communicate with aliens.

But the great filter problem is not just about Earth-like civilizations. Fermi thought that technological civilizations should quickly become big enough to settle entire galaxies, so then the "great filter" is whatever prevents that—just inverse-square radio signals is not an explanation for that.

 >>/5110/
Don't we all?

I just realised I unironically read peterson's new book because of his book review, I wish he did more book reviews

> unironically reading jordan peterson

 >>/5139/
> ironically reading something

> Being "internet famous" has mostly brought me grief online, but in real life it's been a really good supplement to my lack of sociability. Some people who know me online seek me out and pre-emptively like me, which is a useful counter to my reluctance to go out in social situations and do the usual dance of things that help me get to know people and seem likeable.
Now I want to be internet famous.

I can't do shit.
https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/75805.html

 >>/leftpol/75805/ is the proper syntax.

https://archive.fo/T6cgf

 >>/5085/
If something gets assembled that will on average reproduce more often than it will die, then you can get more of that thing, possibly exponentially so.
Most things that were in principle capable of replicating may not have made that bar, and did immediately die. But it only takes one.

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https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-new-thermodynamics-theory-of-the-origin-of-life-20140122/

 >>/5087/
Relevant part
> This means clumps of atoms surrounded by a bath at some temperature, like the atmosphere or the ocean, should tend over time to arrange themselves to resonate better and better with the sources of mechanical, electromagnetic or chemical work in their environments
If the theory behind this is correct, it would probably rather lead to minerals forming that absorb a lot of light.
(There certainly is an *evolutionary* advantage to being an efficient heat engine, i.e. absorb sunlight and radiate excessive heat efficiently, so one wouldn't need any new physics to explain what self-replicators tend to look like, once they are around.)
It is very much possible btw that Earth is one of very few planets in the universe to develop life at all. Emergence of self-replicators might therefore not be a once-in-ten-billion-years-per-planet-surface event, but might be billions of times more rare.

"Spontaneous fine-tuning to environment in many-species chemical reaction networks"
http://www.pnas.org/content/114/29/7565

"Self-Organized Resonance during Search of a Diverse Chemical Space"
https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.038001

"DNA as UV light–harvesting antenna"
https://academic.oup.com/nar/article-pdf/46/7/3543/24677199/gkx1185.pdf

"DNA Denaturing through Photon Dissipation: A Possible Route to Archean Non-enzymatic Replication"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6027432/

"Robust self-replication of combinatorial information via crystal growth and scission"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3340064/

"Vortex flows impart chirality-specific lift forces"
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms6640

"Ice as a protocellular medium for RNA replication"
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms1076

 >>/5093/
Thanks for this. I'm kinda brainlet when it comes to math,like I didn't understand all the math from the study posted in the article above but it won't stop me from trying to understand.

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This thread should have had an opening image.

The Spartans, the Morganites, and the Believers all have reasonable degrees of Gnon-compliance. The Gains are only competitive in-game because of their mind worm bullshit; in a realistic setting they wouldn't last five seconds.

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 >>/5072/
> The Spartans, the Morganites, and the Believers
Parallels abound.

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Most gnon-compatible AND they have the best waifu.

 >>/5036/
Secular Jews, yes. They don't care because they're already genociding themselves through intermarriage, which is presumably what the other anon meant.

 >>/5038/
They are UFAI and aliens.

 >>/5039/

Wow! What a significant discovery! Wait! Why the fucking hell do goyim still exist then?

 >>/5040/

Jews work in mysterious ways, and everything that happens is all part of their plan.

> often more intelligent than large part of population
> using that to find exploits in rules, laws and practices for profit
> pursuing goals that are not strongly aligned with values and sometimes at odds with the goals of the community they take part in

 >>/5039/
> They are UFAI and aliens.
this but less ironically?

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 >>/5040/