/ratanon/ - Rationalists Anonymous

In what way does it get good?

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 >>/6468/
Mostly turns out to have great worldbuilding and decent character development, season 2 also fixes pacing.

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Attack on Titan STARTED out good. It went to hell when they introduced titan shifters and undid that thing they did, and it never recovered.

I really, really want to see the nihilistic cosmic horror show I thought I was getting.

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 >>/6479/

SPOILERS AHEAD (Pictures are spoilers too).

How far did you watch after the first shifters?

Shifters are pretty horrifying, that girl on all fours is a brainwashed child soldier, she walks like that because her shifter is quadrupedal so she got used to it, inhereting a shifter power is done by eating the former host after being turned into a mindless "pure titan" with a spinal fluid injection, they all die 13 years afterwards. Eren became a shifter after eating his dad and has like 5 years left.

The island with the 3 walls they all think is the last bastion of humanity is actually a "penal colony" for their race (only they can turn into titans) that hasn't been wiped out yet because of an alleged dead man's switch, the mindless "pure titans" oaming outside are mostly people that got exiled and turned into titans as punishment by the rest of the world which views their race as subhuman devils (shifter soldiers help the humans outside fight the island partially because of brainwashing and partially to earn a chance for their families to become honorary humans and be granted minimal human rigths).

 >>/6485/
You can spoiler images in the post options, and you can spoiler text by surrounding it by double asterisks (** on each side).
You can also delete your own post from the post menu in the top left of your post.

 >>/6452/
Can you actually get a job with that sort of pay while working just two hours per week?

600k in index funds is probably sufficient

 >>/6454/
I feel like that's covered by "invest a large sum of money"

 >>/6449/
Why the seemingly arbitrary limit of 2 hours a week?

Short Google.

> Every single one I know is a crazy, virtue-signalling weakling.
Scott is already like that though. I like the guy, and his signalling is likely both honest and done because he considers it prosocial, but still.

> Gut flora changes probably lead to mental illness, the body atrophies and they become incompatible with sane people…
I'd guess it's not that going vegetarian makes you a weirdo, but that you'd have to be pretty odd already to go vegetarian/vegan and stick to it.

> What would be the most rational way to convince him against this nonsense?
Farm animals have no moral value, there's no reason to care about minimizing their suffering. Good luck explaining why it's fine and important to care about human suffering after saying that though. Also good luck explaining to a 9001 IQ AI why it should care about you when you don't care about the cow that got killed to make your hamburger. Even if you don't think you'll ever meet such an AI, you'll be talking to people who believe they will, and they'll want you to prepare their argument.
Alternatively, prove that vegetarian diets have significant negative impact on health and argue that improving a person's (be it any given person or one person in particular) well-being and productivity outweighs saving some animals from being factory farmed and slaughtered.

> every single person I know who signals compassion in this expensive way is a virtue signaller
There's an obvious explanation for this that doesn't involve gut flora

 >>/6411/
Brain flora

Please don't post dox here.

 >>/5996/
If you fail to make a pinned thread containing a "Don't post dox" rule, you have no basis to complain when people post dox.

 >>/6403/
I don't expect it to be common, and I'm wary of doing something as hands-on as making a sticky that wasn't there before I took over. I'll reconsider if something like this happens again. I didn't consider the possibility of someone posting dox before it happened.
I wouldn't ban someone for not knowing about illegible rules, of course.

 >>/4450/
Obviously it's Brian Tomasik (reducing-suffering.org), John Nerst (everythingstudies.com) and of course the boy Hanson.

 >>/4450/
Gwern, obviously. His dry autism makes me horny beyond belief.

 >>/5233/
Dry autism sounds like a nice fetish, because you can just fap to #lesswrong.

Fucking PLEBBITORS get off my board; ree.
https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/c1he3o/the_virgin_scott_vs_the_chad_eliezer/

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 >>/6385/
XML good too
http://yudkowsky.net/obsolete/plan.html#tech_comp_flare
http://flarelang.sourceforge.net/

 >>/6386/
> The Plan to Singularity

He really was serious about this

 >>/6386/
> Flare is a proposal for a new programming language, the first annotative programming language, in which programs, data, and the program state are all represented as well-formed XML.

Lol, so late 90s/early 2000s

Too lazy to fill this out for Flare: https://famicol.in/language_checklist.html

 >>/6386/
 >>/6398/
Thankfully MIRI now accepts that type theory is the way, the truth, and the light. They even recruit from ICFP now, I met some of them there last year. How far they have come from the ignominious beginnings of "Flare"!

 >>/6398/
The most obvious candidate is of course
> [ ] You have reinvented Lisp but worse
The similarities to Lisp are constantly stressed, which makes it all the much funnier to run into the sentence
> I have substantial experience in C++ but none whatsoever in LISP

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https://archive.is/QUA8l

 >>/6391/
Wow, that was better than anything that was left in the text.

 >>/6308/

I think this is inevitable. We should strive to leave as much science and tech on this planet as possible for these will probably be our only long-term legacies.

 >>/6315/

Neither is going to be done. Instead Africanization of the world threatens to permanently stop economic growth.

 >>/6315/
The average IQ in many parts of Sub-Saharan Africa is in the low 70s, they are never goin to "develop." That's a standard deviation lower than the shitty parts of Latin America. They are basically a different branch of the genus homo.

AI will advance to a degree that it can be easily controlled by the elites to reign over their homogenous africanoid worker population who subsist on insects and live in coffin apartments.

 >>/6315/
Or you could A C C E L E R A T E and create an omnimalevolent AI before someone else does

It's possible that the number of sociopaths is going up though, I've been somewhat out of touch with EA recently

 >>/6353/
Those don't necessarily contradict each other - you've got a movement with a lot of libertarians, aimed at helping poor people. People make significant personal sacrifices that are ultimately just as driven by signaling as everything else, but perhaps more visibly so because of poor social skills. And maybe people dumb it down in an attempt to be more accessible without properly tackling elitism.
But I'm not involved in any EA communities so I wouldn't really know.

 >>/6353/
> Personally, almost all my experiences have been good, and I'm happy the movement has proceeded the way it has.
What have you liked about it?

 >>/6348/
It doesn't deserve to be popular.
Rats and adjacents by way of their rationalist outlooks absolutely suck at aesthetic, holistic and passion-driven things.

Tainted good isn't the same as untainted good. Surely you see the stratification.

 >>/6365/
Is this actually the case? Plenty of people  who would be rat-adj today had decent to great aesthetics, like some golden age science fiction authors. At the same time even the most anti-rationality blue tribe members suffer from bad aesthetics similar to those of Bay Area rats. I am thus inclined to blame blue tribe memes for the aesthetics problem and not assume it is inherent. You can't make an awe inspiring religion substitute out of the stuff, which is why Humanism and EA are so stale.

 >>/6350/
How bad is your memory? Could anything else has caused it?

What was the surgery?

 >>/6351/
Valid methodological criticisms, however it's treated as common knowledge among the surgeons I know that every instance of general anesthesia is using up a certain resource. 

 >>/6352/
It's pretty bad. Before, I could remember pages of text verbatim (no superhuman von Neumann shit, but occasionally it worked), or retell the few minutes of conversation. Now I'm like an animal that has no ability to mark stuff as "important" and is forced to expressly repeat stuff many times (Anki helps a little), and to re-derive/reread most everything I didn't use for a few months.

It was to treat a case of testicular torsion. Pretty sure that didn't have anything to do with brain function.

 >>/6357/
> testicular torsion
Does that normally require general anesthesia?

 >>/6359/
I don't know, anon, but quick search indicates it is. Apparently, abdominal surgery with local anesthesia is uncommon in general.

 >>/6357/
> however it's treated as common knowledge among the surgeons I know that every instance of general anesthesia is using up a certain resource. 
Then it's disturbing there isn't more research on it, let alone warnings for patients.

> and to re-derive/reread most everything I didn't use for a few months.
Is that so unusual? After multiple months of not thinking about something read one time, how many people would remember it?