/tulpa/ - Tulpa

 >>/5719/
> But we gotta eat, not sure if it's wise to make a fire out there though. But it's cold and we gotta rest. And we already lit a fire before. Does it make a difference?

SheShe explored this.

1. If you collect "dry smokeless wood" then all ot does is decrease the chance of encounters for beasts intelligence 7 and below and increase chances of encounters with intelligent enemies. So go ahead. It will take an hour to collect that type of wood. But you might find some extra. 1lb per 4 hours.

2. Find a somewhat secluded area, 1d4 per check one check per hour.

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What a mess.

I will cast Balm of Peace once our humanoid rustlers are here. They might be injured as well. I can mass heal Alice Ashley and if necessary even more.

It will regenerate after a short rest so not using it before resting is a waste.

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 >>/5725/
Which side are you on Ashley and why is that damn lizard 'tolerating' you now?

The deal was to free it if it doesn't attack us. It did repeatedly and there is a price to pay for such insolence.

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 >>/5727/
Ashley Panther cannot answer you as she cannot form words and her comprehension of language is compromised. Therefore no deal could be made and thus no deal exists. If you pick a fight with a crocodile and it bites you to unconsciousness, then you claim to 'let it go' I don't see when or how the deal could be made.

> there is a price to pay for such insolence

This is why you're in time out and your ship is quarantined. Personally I think it's because Dragons can see through your ploy and are working against you *with the orb*.

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 >>/5732/
Silence of the Lolis
Hahaha!
Poor Alice! Nothing works out for her.

Cat is busy, she's gotta free the dragon, look who's coming, finish off the goblins unless Ashley Panther does and collect the loot. What are the others even doing?

 >>/5727/
> Which side are you on
Too bad cragmaaw isn't cooperative but you're not gonna leave her like this if you wake up and start a fight again, right?

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 >>/5732/
>  I think it's because Dragons can see through your ploy and are working against you *with the orb*.
Of course they are!
Dragons are in cahoots with the orb! They're all conspiring against me!
But worry not, I am very patient and my revenge will be horrible.

 >>/5734/
et tu, Cat?

> you're not gonna leave her like this if you wake up and start a fight again, right?
Of course not. Now get that damn lizard out of my sight before I wake up or I'll lose it!

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 >>/5743/
> Now get that damn lizard out of my sight before I wake up or I'll lose it!
Mission accomplished!

 >>/5744/
> Cat, I hope you don't mind I anticipated your actions.
It's perfectly fine but did Cat kill off the unconscious goblins while looting them? She would have specified that in her turn. If not Ashley should do it now. We don't need them attacking us again and we also can't have Alice torturing goblins now that we have guests. We're already weird enough.

 >>/5746/
> did Cat kill off the unconscious goblins while looting them? 

Yulya looted them and no.

Ashley Panther is with you right now, you're both about 300ft south.

 >>/5748/
> Yulya looted them and no.
well that wasnt part of he plan but ok. at least unexpectedly useful loot.


it would be nice if Ashley did that before we are ambushed again. and if goblin 8 sees Alice in that shape and laughs again shell probably explode

 >>/5750/
> Yulya hides at the eastern rock wall near Alice to see if the others can actually find her

Here was the roll, sorry I forgot to add it to the main thread.

[1d20+3=7, vs Tharden's Perception 14]

With the Rockseeker brothers there now, it's reasonably safe to rest near the cave entrance. They're not registered adventurers but they're capable fighters.

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Uh I don't wanna complain but does what we do or say actually have any effect?

I know the dwarves have their own business but they at least gotta respond if they need food or healing. And if Ashley goes to sleep on a tree Yulya can't cast Balm of Peace! She's totally getting ignored and Alice is out. Cat needs to handle everything again.

Unless you want another round of major drama Ashley should come back with Cat before going to sleep. She probably wants to eat too.

 >>/5755/
> Uh I don't wanna complain but does what we do or say actually have any effect?

Sorry about that, since I am playing the Dwarven brohers... let me say this, I was dazzled by a flurry of nyas and questions and so as a result, so was the dwarves. They're not dumb so they heard all your questions but as I did, they took them all as a greeting and niceties.

Yes, ding on me for not addressing each one in a series of responses.

I'll go back and do that but as you can tell They're immediate need is confused. If you didn't get the dialogue, they assumed you were hired by Sildar to help rescue Gundren. 

Ashley Panther did her own thing, don't blame me for that. She chose not to be healed, her cat-responce to me now is she didn't want to waste healing on herself in a selfless way.

> Ashley Drama
Afaik she was too injured to hunt and doesn't beg for food so she'll eat when she wakes up.

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 >>/5743/

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 >>/5758/
highly accurate
i know Alice well enough to never seriously piss her off youd make an enemy for life. you and anyone looking vaguely similar lol

 >>/5757/
> dwarves intimidated by strong independent women
lol
im surprised they didnt attack us that was a pretty good ambush
thx for clarifying though i thought mentioning Sildar was a mistake and you meant Gundren.

 >>/5756/
> she didn't want to waste healing on herself in a selfless way.
cmon thats nonsense. Yulya can heal a near infinite number of people with Balm of Peace as long as they fit into an area the more the merrier. and it regenerates after a short rest so nothing is wasted. Ashley just not coming is a waste Yulya was so looking forward to her first mass heal.

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 >>/5758/
 >>/5760/
I tried to be nice and look at me!
I won't make this mistake again!
As George W, said:
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists!

And you know what happens to terrorists in the end.

 >>/5756/
> beg for food
I seriously don't know if we are her friends or just some annoying strangers. When your friends offer you food and healing and you're just nah fuck it I don't need your crap see ya, that's not exactly friendship-like. And an Ashley with unnecessarily low HP/MP is not exactly helpful either. But eh, I don't even care anymore.

> Ashley hops out of the bushes and rolls on her back, seemingly trying her best to be non-threatening though it comes off as awkward.
How's this awkward? It's awesome! Be glad I'm down, if you do that around me you will get petted and fluffed without mercy!

 >>/5757/
> creepy
That's my part!

> or socially unacceptable
That's Ashley's part

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 >>/5761/
> I seriously don't know if we are her friends or just some annoying strangers.

My interpretation of Ashley Panther

> Alice, constantly complaining about Ashley and doesn't care

Yeah, sounds like you're friends to me

> Why awkward

Ashley trying to be non threatening looked awkward to me, since I'm the narrator, I said it was awkward.

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 >>/5761/
 >>/5764/
Here we go again...
Do you need another butt treatment by Cat?

 >>/5765/
Poor dwarves. They must be completely confused.

So what about making a fire?
They'll know we're there anyway if we negotiate and daring to make a fire could make us look more confident. We'll probably have to warm Alice up like some leftover soup. It's cold and she's been in that icy creek.

 >>/5767/
> So what about making a fire?

In this case, you sunk their battleship, they're inside mostly confused you're sieging them at this point a fire isn't going to make a difference. The goblins themselves often have smoke so it's fine. Bandits don't want to bother with these low information voters and they'll assume it's them.

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 >>/5764/
> Yeah, sounds like you're friends to me
Yes exactly because you're our friend and a more important part of the party than the useless me! That's why I complain! You know I do nothing but complain and yell at host all day every day. Because he's important! I don't complain about people I dislike. I kill and eat them.

 >>/5769/
Aww...
Food, warmth and healing on top of that! You're the best!
I humbly request being allowed to describe what happens as I wake up myself. You'll love it!

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 >>/5772/
> I humbly request being allowed to describe what happens as I wake up myself. You'll love it!

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 >>/5766/
 >>/5769/
 >>/5773/
Hahaha they must think we are completely nuts. Not that they're wrong

might have been better to wait for Sildar for Balm of Peace to heal him too but its too late now. I hope hes not a total mess or got sexually abused like Alice said lol

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 >>/5782/
Yeah poor guy could have used some healing. We should at least give him his purse back.

> goblin king
> castle
This is getting bigger and bigger What happened to the 'simple easy peasy escort mission?'

I don't get what they're negotiating for. They traded the hobgoblin for Sildar. Gundren's not here, why should we release the rest? What's the offer? To let us go? I actually don't wanna go as long as even a mouse is alive in there. I don't like unfinished business.

Personally my negotiations would have looked a little different but believe me, you don't wanna hear the details.
Actually wouldn't our Peace Cleric be the ideal negotiator? Oh wait, she's the worst negotiator ever according to her host, plus she killed the helpless goblin leader.

Whatever, I think we should sleep as long as possible. Who knows when we can safely get another 5h rest. What actually counts as long rest now? still don't get that.

 >>/5788/
> What actually counts as long rest now? still don't get that.

8 one-hour short rests simultaneously counts as a long rest. I keep track of it. You are currently 3/8 long rest.

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 >>/5788/
Hm yes not sure what to negotiate here other than being left alone. Cat isn't a negotiator so don't count on her. Her job is to beat anything hostile until it stops moving. And to Nya.
Ashley would be good if she is back up, maybe Cat can bring her if she finds her.

 >>/5792/
> And to Nya.
most important job of all

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Alright I don't think it's a question what we do now. But we gotta prepare. I hope they let us stay until morning, then we 'leave' with the dwarves and ambush them again.
In the mean time we gotta sort through the loot. Cat has asked Sildar if he can take stuff back to Phandalin we don't need and that's not worth a lot. We don't need a lantern, the oil's for Alice's firebombs. Torches? All of us can see in the dark. Or could you shoot them a short distance like an arrow? I'd also give him the broken waterskin I mean it's worthless anyway. Mess kit also seems dead weight.

Things to do:
sharpen all blades with the whetstone
make firebombs
Yulya should inspect the elf dagger
I'll update the inventory once that' settled.

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 >>/5793/
> to Nya
> most important job of all
Nya

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Question regarding alchemy - I am the alchemist's toolkit and have proficiency so if Cat and me handle the cooking together can it still go boom? If so I'd do the cooking with my pseudopod, it has 10ft reach and 3lbs carrying capacity according to my character sheet so my main body should be out of the blast reach.

Also I'm fully with Cat. All great ideas!

In case that's still not clear, a pseudopod is an additional limb, not a clone. It can never detach and do anything on its own.

 >>/5799/
> sharpen all blades with the whetstone

This will work to bring a scrap weapon up one level to make it useable but still worth only scrap. Weapons have a chance of losing a level of quality on critical miss. So it won't help other weapons, it requires a blacksmith and tools and costs 50% of the value increase (SheShe figured all this out in their run). I could allow a temporary +1 for the first hit, like poison adds +1d4 for the first hit.

> ambush
Nope, they're fully aware of their compromised position and will have watch just inside the cave, the dogs will also bark if they detect someone. In any case if you use stealth, usually you can have a chance of surprising a group inside the cave but they're way too wary now whether you pretend to leave or not and the moment you do they'll send out scouts as that's what they're used to doing.

[Ashley] I don't like it anyway, someone could escape. Nope I'm guarding the entrance with lynxes. If we have time to rest and prepare, I'm summoning 2 lynxes and then recovering my mp. Joy said she'd allow it as long as I don't abuse it.

[Ashley] They can't have too many more in there right?

[Ashley] They already said we could rest, the dwarves will wait for us before they leave.

> torches
If you had tinkering skill and woodworking tools or tinkering tools, you could make fire arrows from one torch and one arrow but it exchanges 1d6 sharp for 1d6 fire damage with the possibility of setting things on fire. You don't have the skill or tools here. You can throw a torch. Let's say 60ft but with disadvantage to hit anyone.

> firebombs
If you have glass and alcohol and the oil, I'll allow it.

 >>/5802/
Alice brand bombs have zero chance of explosion because you are just mixing it. Since you don't have an emulifier, I'll say they expire and you need to spend an hour remixing them every 24 hours.

The extra special high end ones are cooked, that would be in a pot over a fire, you do not have all the ingredients or equipment I think, also you will be in the blast radius or your pseudopod will be, so you can't claim you're not. If it blew off your pseudopod that would still cause damage. Being splashed with boiling liquid on fire will cause damage.

In fact, I'd even allow a larger blast radius if boiling

[Ashley] Cat giving Sildar a broken waterskin, lol, Cat it's worthless once it's broken.

 >>/5801/
> mkII

Propose an ingredient list and procedure and proposed results.

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 >>/5807/
> Propose an ingredient list and procedure and proposed results.
Bruh, I said it's Kashtan's recipe in oil flasks which you posted in your homebrew rulebook!

2 oil flasks (oil + containers)
2 goblin alcohol flasks (alcohol)
2 leftover Alice cocktails MKI with wicks (alcohol, oil, wicks)
1 soap
2 candles

I don't get the plant protein extract, other than a handicap, the shaved candles already makes it a sticky gel. What is this supposed to do? But if you want we can cook the leftovers of our rations in the pot until you have a protein residue for whatever.

The only thing that's missing are glass shards but we should be able to find something useful

> you will be in the blast radius or your pseudopod will be
Better a thin pseudopod tentacle than the entire body. Damage yes but less than being completely doused by burning oil.

> In fact, I'd even allow a larger blast radius if boiling
Maybe we should invite the goblins for a Thanksgiving meal then?

So can it even blow up if Cat and me have the necessary proficiencies?

> [Ashley] Cat giving Sildar a broken waterskin, lol, Cat it's worthless once it's broken.
That was me, not Cat!
And only the strap to affix it to a belt is broken, at least that's what I understood.

 >>/5388/
> A waterskin with a broken strap 2 lbs of water still in it.

He can still carry it or put it in a pouch. Also that's called a gesture of goodwill damned! I should also hand out goblin ears to everyone as a parting gift before they leave.

 >>/5808/

2 mega bombs:
1 bar of soap
2 candles
2 oil flasks
1 alcohol
0 plant protien extract
This will cause the mixture to separate, so because it needs to be cooked, the bombs will last only 24 hours and need to be recooked after. You do not have the necessary Alchemists' still kit to synthesize the emulsifier. I know this because I made it up after you were designed.

-No extra special glass, and no glass shards, so no extra slashing damage and no extra throw distance.
-2 Wicks

If you claim you have alchemist proficiency and Cat has cooking proficiency then you're safe, there is no risk of deflagration but you both must work on it, it will take 1 hour to make 2. 

Also, angry Bugs Bunny is adorable and hillarious.

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 >>/5810/
> the bombs will last only 24 hours
This should be enough!

> No extra special glass
20ft throwing distance should also be enough in a cave

> -2 Wicks
They're in the 2 remaining Alice cocktail MKI Cat is still carrying, handmade from half orc panties. I hope we don't find a naked female half orc prisoner in there or we will have some explaining to do.

> no glass shards
Alice found enough

> alchemist proficiency
Alice's character sheet says alchemist's tools proficiency

So let's get to work!

We still gotta decide which trash, I mean lesser valuable objects, we give to Sildar. Gotta be able to carry more loot back!

pls remember Yulyas a peace cleric and mustnt harm living things without a very good cause. that doesnt include monsters she was tasked to exterminate or self defense but even then shell stop Alice from torturing them.

Sildar didnt take the money so i guess its Gundrens? no money for Ashley because as Alice said well ofc return that. Yulya will keep it separate. does Ashley want any items? torches to throw maybe?

the shadow ring is actually pretty cool i suggest giving it to whoever needs it most. can Ashley Panther wear it somehow?

And how many charges does the goblin staff have at dawn now?

 >>/5816/
> Sildar didnt take the money so i guess its Gundrens?

It was the Goblin Boss' Likely a conglomeration of many sources. 

Sildar wouldn't dare ask for anything as petty as a few coins from the ones who just rescued him.

Gundren can bill the goblin King for any expenses and incidentals.

> does Ashley...

[Ashley] I'm good. I want money money money gimmie gimmie gimmie. If you sell anything, that too.

> i suggest giving it to whoever needs it most

You should wear it, you are the weakest link with +1 stealth, so this will bring you to +3 which would match Ashley, Ashley Panther cannot wear it. For the sake of Group checks, you would be the best user.

> And how many charges does the goblin staff have at dawn now?

It is full (6). It may be used as a focus the same as the holy symbol, but remember that spells that specifically mention price must have those materials.

 >>/5744/
> It has 6 charges and 1d6+1 of them will restore every day it first comes in contact with the sun.

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 >>/5815/
Hahaha that image of worried Yulya is great! What's Alice doing? She should be the one catching bugs.

 >>/5817/
> It was the Goblin Boss' Likely a conglomeration of many sources. 
 >>/5744/
Goblin Boss has a coin purse, likely Sildar or Gundren's with 10gp, 101sp, and 8cp
Ok, we thought it was just Gundren's purse an didn't want to steal his money! Then we let Ashley do the math again and take her share.

I agree the ring is best with Yulya for now unless we send one of us on a scout mission.

I think we have less trash than thought, working on the inventory now! Both Cat and Alice will take 1 firebomb and thanks to Sildar's donation both have a tinderbox now.

Please correct what Cat gave to Sildar if you think it's wrong!

We will start action at the beginning of next turn

 >>/5820/
There are no bugs in my tent as long as I'm there. I'm not responsible if you leave it open after I'm gone!

I think the stuff for Sildar's good!
Thanks for updating the inventory, I'll post it here once Ashley has taken her money.

So what do we do?
Should I stealthily explore the creek or will Ashley send a wasp or lynx? If Yulya or especially Ashley get attacked from behind we have a problem.

Also as far as I remember the wolves are chained in there. Can't we just shoot them?

Unfortunately the goblins can do the same. If we stand before the entrance they can just pop up, shoot us, then disappear!

 >>/5820/
> Gundren's coin purse

That was a mistake if I said that. Also coin purses aren't things you worry about in inventory and as long as you're at least wearing underwear you have one. They're like magic storage for unlimited coins.

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 >>/5822/
that cave is a nightmare they have an extreme advantage in there. wish we had enough firebombs to just smoke them out.

Alice is right we should check out what's north before all going inside. i like the idea of Alice otter swimming up if Ashley doesnt want to summon wasps for that. for the cave I recommend Alice going in with stealth looking around and exiting so we know whats inside like Ashley panther did. give Alice the ring and she has a whopping stealth +7! when we move as a group Yulya should carry it.

btw I looked up rules again and did we consider Cat deals an additional +2 melee damage while raging?

 >>/5828/
> btw I looked up rules again and did we consider Cat deals an additional +2 melee damage while raging?

Yeah, Joy's been counting that, it's like the only good about Rage.

> if Ashley doesnt want to summon wasps for that.

They're mechanical so they're like sending in drones, very noisy, stupid, no chill, slow if walking, and they do have darkvision but it'd put everyone in there on high alert if we send them in. They would effectively map the area and monsters though but they'd get attacked immediately and I can only send them in 100ft to control them.

You know what's funny, Joy hasn't even looked at the extent of the map so there actually could be other exits. She wanted to discover along with everyone else so she hasn't removed the "fog" layer, she just erases it and the player copy and the DM copy reveal together. She is planning on changing certain parts though, she has rooms the original map didn't have that she's going to replace certain rooms with. She has read ahead of course and planned it but say we run out of map, she'll add some rooms sort of thing. She wasn't planning on adding exits though, but yeah, we should scout around. Dang, Ashley Panther could sneak around there and joy gives her a +4 bonus in the dark so that's be +6 stealth in low light and +10 in near dark because she's basically black.

I could waste my mana and just do it? But the Lynxes get a huge bonus if I'm rallying them.

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 >>/5834/
> I could waste my mana and just do it? But the Lynxes get a huge bonus if I'm rallying them.
Yeah no, we need you as human here! If a lynx can do it, it's perfect! I'm not keen on swimming in icy creeks but I'll perform a distraction!

If the cave indeed is warmer than the outside, it will suck in air and exhaust it on top (see lower pic). If we throw the stink bomb in there at the wolves, the stink will be sucked into the cave and the inhabitants won't be happy. Cat should run up there with feline agility, throw it in and run back. She has more range than me.

Also please take your money so we can post the inventory!

 >>/5836/
> It will suck in air

I like your graphs but no. If it was sucking in air, the air would be cold inside too. It was a hint at the idea that there isn't much ventilation inside the cave.

Secondly, if you toss the concoction into the cave, the goblins may have an advantage because they obviously aren't moved by their own stink.

[Ashley] how hard is it to convert everything to copper, divide by 8 round down then choose from available coins to hand over?

25sp 2cp

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 >>/5840/
> [Ashley] how hard is it to convert everything to copper, divide by 8 round down then choose from available coins to hand over?
> 25sp 2cp
You know Alice can't into basic math.

Here's the current inventory!

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 >>/5840/
> [Ashley] how hard is it to convert everything to copper, divide by 8 round down then choose from available coins to hand over?

What do you want from me, I don't have a PhD in math to carry out such complex transforms

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 >>/5848/
Bear said "too much fuck shit happened" for me to have any time. The forcast for tomorrow is "likely more fucking shit" but I will get top priority at the mid-night time.

Bear was under a lot of stress doing something that was technically difficult that he'd never done before. He managed to somehow do it perfectly as Bear is known to do.

Good show!

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 >>/5848/
> 130IQ research scientist
> can't simplest math
How?

I thought Olga would scout North but I guess that's up to Alice! Off into the cold creek you go!

I say we let Alice scout N. Then we assemble near the entrance where Ashley is. Cat uses her ring of obscuring to make a fog cloud at the entrance, from there we shoot eveerything inside. Then we enter together. I don't think it's good to split up. We need to stay together and cover each other. But first we need to know whats going up North.

 >>/5853/
i agree we gorra make sure nothing comes at us from north. then we shoot what we can from the entrance. then we go in and finish the rest. if enemies amass anywhere its molotov time.

Cat is with Ashley and not at the camp fire but it doesn't really matter.

 >>/5854/
> Cat moves to Ashley


Ok thank to the Alice sumbarine we know we have 2 ways they could come at us from north that's not good. We still need to finish off the guys in the cave first. I say we firebomb wolves and goblin leader and range attack as long as we can. We must prevent Ashley's summons from being wiped out early.

Cat moves and casts fog
Alice throws the bomb
Yulya casts sacred flame

4 summons attack the 3 goblins