/agatha2/ - E-Girl Purgatory

 >>/113804/
> Even posting a picture of your cat or one of your interests gives people easy grounds to start conversation with you.
Thank you for the info, but does any of this actually work if the man isn't good looking? I've had a normiebook account for like 15 years and I don't recall a woman ever starting a conversation with me.
For example, let's say there's a nerdy modest genuine cosplayer (ie actually likes cosplay, instead of just posting softcore porn) with few followers, on Instagram. If I sincerely interact with her content, what are the chances that she even acknowledges my existence, if I'm not Chad? 10%?
> Why would anyone want to spend all their time around someone who's personality they don't even like?
I don't mean to be too blackpilled, but I think 99% of men don't have a choice lol. If men stopped pursuing a woman once she showed a bad attitude or unpleasant personality, 99% of men would be 30yo virgins.
I'm not saying this to be funny or to dunk on women, but really, most men just tolerate things like mind games, tests, drama, hostile attitudes, etc. because they'd be completely alone otherwise.
Thanks again for the info.

 >>/113873/
>  If men stopped pursuing a woman once she showed a bad attitude or unpleasant personality, 99% of men would be 30yo virgins
Most men know many people and have many options.

 >>/113885/
You're exaggerating. I'd say most men are lucky to even have one option. The bottom 70% of men have roughly 0-2 options. The bottom 30% probably have a 90% chance to have 0.

 >>/113909/
Asociality is not normalcy, you're conflating your personal sphere with the experience of men at large. Everyone has a group of friends and a social context (school, job, hobby) where they can find new people. Men who have a girlfriend get to know many other girls through her, this is why people who have been in relationships have no issues finding new ones and lonely people only tend to get lonelier.
Social opportunities only start to decline once you reach the age bracket where everyone has kids.

 >>/113927/
That sounds like it makes sense, but how true is it? Perhaps you're assuming that above average men's experience applies to most men.
A completely average 5/10 man might have friends and get invited to a party or something, but exactly what is his chance of success with women? Surely he'd have to chat up at least 5-10 women before getting a success.
And more to the point, it's not like he has "options" of women on his list that he can choose from like a buffet. If he wants a woman, he has to actually work for it.

 >>/113885/
And to go back to the original point, even if a man has options, I meant that it's extremely common for women to have bad attitudes, so "date someone who you like" doesn't really work.

 >>/113433/
 >>/113676/
Without giving too much about my personal life away I will say that I am not in a bad financial position I actually make decent above average money.

 >>/113808/
Is this supposed to be someone's MK-Ultra call sign?

 >>/113676/
> You are retarded and cucking yourself by having a pessimistic unrealistic worldview this is so empirically false you have to have very poor analysis skills or an actual cuck fetish
Okay, then date me! 💢
You all say it's all fine and "oh you'll find someone," but none of you actually want to bite.

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 >>/113873/
>  I've had a normiebook account for like 15 years and I don't recall a woman ever starting a conversation with me.
I don't think a lot of people under 30 use Facebook for socialising in that way, the people I know will use it to post polished versions of themselves for family or old teachers and stuff. Also, as rough as it is, women very rarely reach out to men, let alone on facebook. I think if you're after the stuff OP is [GenZ dweebish women], instagram, snapchat or discord would be your best bets.
>  let's say there's a nerdy modest genuine cosplayer (ie actually likes cosplay, instead of just posting softcore porn) with few followers, on Instagram. If I sincerely interact with her content, what are the chances that she even acknowledges my existence, if I'm not Chad? 10%?
As a cosplayer womyn with such an account, the chances of her acknowledging you from solely interacting with her content are pretty much 0%, even if you're chad. If you message her, there is a slightly higher chance of getting a reply, it depends on how you present yourself. I would be more inclined to reply to someone with pictures on their account, of things that I also like (i.e., what the hypothetical woman cosplays), who is clearly from the same country as me. "Being Chad" would obviously help, people like to talk to people they are attracted to, however, a lot of cosplay women have bottom of the barrel moids for some reason, but they likely didn't meet from a cosplay Instagram account. Replying/ orbiting in the first place will generally deter these women as they can kinda tell you only want a cosplayer gf as a part of some fetish. Best bet is going to an anime convention and trying to start conversation (scary).
>  most men just tolerate things like mind games, tests, drama, hostile attitudes, etc. because they'd be completely alone otherwise.
If you're willing to settle for someone you are only physically attracted to it'll probably be much easier [and less fulfilling] Good luck ^_^
 >>/114043/
I have a moid and if I didn't I would not go for a cuck!

 >>/114091/
> I don't think a lot of people under 30 use Facebook for socialising in that way
Alright, fair enough, thanks.
> the chances of her acknowledging you from solely interacting with her content are pretty much 0%
Well shit. At least you're honest.
Idk if it's worth it to message women on the 1% chance that one actually replies, and on the 0.0001% chance she's actually interested.
> Best bet is going to an anime convention and trying to start conversation (scary).
I've gone to a few, but in my experience it was overwhelmingly populated by the softcore porn type of cosplayers.
> a lot of cosplay women have bottom of the barrel moids for some reason
They're probably doing cosplay because they realize they're not very hot, so they feel bad openly attention whoring online, so they use cosplay to pretend like they're innocent. Soft attention whoring.
And since they're not hot enough (for Chad), they just stick with some beta who will provide attention\resources\favors until a better man comes along. I doubt they actually like him.
> If you're willing to settle for someone you are only physically attracted to it'll probably be much easier [and less fulfilling]
Like I said, most men don't really have a choice when it comes to women's personality, so physically is all that's left. Most men already ARE settling by overlooking women's personality issues.
In my experience, I'm already settling on every aspect, and I'm still disappointed.

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 >>/114113/
At this point you're not even looking for advice anymore, you're just looking for excuses to stay in the cuck shed.

 >>/114185/
OP here that cuck dude is NOT me

 >>/113676/
it isn't "empirically false" and you need to learn the definition of "empirical," but before you do that you need to admit you don't know fucking shit about anything and that women statistically do not date down economically, exceptions only prove the rule and observable realities are not built on the backs of exceptions, stupid fucking womanoid giving horrible advice and denying the actual fact of the matter as usual

NEVER take dating advice from women

 >>/114185/
You're forgetting that sometimes things that are obvious to some people, might be difficult to understand for others.

 >>/114204/
I am open minded, so I always try to listen to them, but 99% of the time I am disappointed.
It's sad to say, but they simply don't understand. They start getting swarmed with attention by like 13, so they couldn't possibly understand getting none all your life.

 >>/114211/
Doesn't mean that you have to create a fictional world for yourself where 99% of men are either incels or cucks and the only ones who can have a decent, normal relationship are apollonian millionaire demigods.
Average, ugly and poor men get engaged all the time, you need to face reality.

 >>/114220/
Yeah, they get engaged at 30 when the woman is ready to let the betabucks pay for her stuff. That's not a selling point. If women in their early-mid 20s genuinely went for their looksmatch, then I'd believe you.
why are people so eager to dismiss men's problems? Why do they insist so hard that men are never in a bad situation, and when they are, it's 100% their own fault.
It's like there's a guttural hatred at the concept of men having any victimhood points at all.

 >>/114232/
So real my nigga, so real

 >>/114232/
> yeah they just (elaborate headcanon)
Looks and money are just the shields you use to avoid reflecting on the type of person you are and the real reasons why you're not attractive.
How can a woman possibly love a whiny excuse maker like you? Your victim complex isn't gonna get you any pussy.

 >>/114270/
I guarantee almost all of you guys that talk this big game also do not get any pussy.

play webfishing, so many nerdy girls playing it rn, mostly teens and early 20s

 >>/114285/
Is the game actually fun? Is it a good streaming game? If so, I am willing to check it out. I like fishing games if the fishing gameplay is good like in Ninjala. Not like in Animal Crossing.

 >>/114204/
Maybe if you didn’t circlejerk and whine on imageboards about women not wanting men without money you would have better observation skills regarding what women actually want. The women I know consistently date men who are financially worse off than them, no it’s not the case for everyone but the vast majority of women do not fucking care. At least below the age of 30. I promise they have no interest in you due to your abysmal personality and cuckoldry fetish, and nothing else. Please continue to take advice from other men on endchan though i’m sure it will give you great success!

 >>/114270/
> How can a woman possibly love a whiny excuse maker
There it is. Every single time.
Any time the """advice""" isn't automatically accepted, it instantly turns into hostility personal attacks. I can smell the r*ddit from here.
 >>/114276/
100%. It's just a way to convince themselves that they're above others. "I might be a 25yo virgin, but at least I'm not a stinky poopy inkwell"

 >>/114294/
Ironic that someone with such a piece of shit attitude is accusing others of having a bad personality. While being on an obscure imageboard. Utter projection.

 >>/114317/
You only feel attacked because you know it's true. 
You would move heaven and earth to avoid putting your personality in question, convincing yourself that it's all because of things beyond your control is just too comforting.

 >>/114318/
That's simply a direct no-bullshit post.
You're not a baby, you should be able to handle adult communication.

Not OP but I got asked to go out by a qt grill this weekend. Over Instagram. Don't really feel like going even though she's nice but I will anyway and see what happens. Just a reminder that social media is a good tool for meeting people IRL.

 >>/114415/
What are your looks 0-10? And income\wealth? What kind of stuff do you post on Instagram? Is this grill a friend of a friend, or a stranger?

 >>/114417/
I'd say I'm like a 6. I have an okay job and live with 2 roommates so it's not ideal but it's enough to support myself. I don't post much except I share a lot of posts on my stories like memes and recent vinyl hauls. I guess a stranger because I followed her after seeing her comment on a post about something going on in our city and after liking each other's stories we started sending each other memes. Happened very naturally. She asked me if I was gonna go to this upcoming thing in town then asked me to go with her. Refusing to use social media is shooting yourself in the foot.

 >>/114419/
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
It's kinda obvious to use social media to meet women, when you think about it. Women have been using it as a dating service, by posting pics of themselves to see if any guy bites the bait. It's mindblowing that I'm only now making the connection.

 >>/114423/
Instagram is the only true dating app, because people are there to actually show themselves and interact with people. 
Tinder and anything similar are just traps for men.

 >>/114431/
Instagram nauseates me anytime I open it because of all the bougie-ass bullshit. I started following almost entirely pet pages so I see mostly animals and not people.

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You're telling me women care about personality? That's funny, next you'll tell me women actually have different tastes in men, like preferring fat fucks, or manlets, or ugly men, or poor men, or sub8 non-Chads of any kind.

 >>/114594/
> You're telling me women care about personality? 
Yes. Good looking men with boring or annoying personalities have an easy time finding a gf but get dumped even more easily.
> fat fucks
The amount of women who are into fat guys is genuinely staggering.

 >>/114594/
Sounds like somebody has never delved into female gooner subreddits. It's shocking how many women have the hots for fat niggas. I've also met a weird number of women who flat out tell me they want short boyfriends, not as part of a femdom kink or anything either afaik, they were normie women who just liked short dudes. I assumed it was because their first bfs were short or something but who knows.

 >>/114608/
Why must there be only one girl I can love? 😭 I need to get back to her or I will die of loneliness, yet there are all these other hotties all over the place but arbitrary retarded ruled and the wickedness of that cunt Harris have made them inaccessible.

 >>/114609/
What happened?

 >>/114609/
She moved a little bit farther away and I just haven't really run into her lately. I've been trying to "move on" as conventional wisdom would suggest, but I realize that she is my only match and that I need her.

 >>/114602/
> but get dumped even more easily
Got any examples\proof of this? I'm open minded, but I find this hard to believe.
> into fat guys
Let me guess, those fat guys are exceptionally tall, and those women are moreso into "size" in general than actually getting off to the man's moobs and gut.

> hots for fat niggas
> want short boyfriends
I find this very VERY hard to believe. Do you have any proof of this kind of stuff?
> women who flat out tell me
Yeah but women lie all the time, especially if it'll make her look good, like claiming to not be shallow, so it's hard to believe what they say.
> not as part of a femdom kink
Fuck.
> female gooner subreddits
Go on.
> their first bfs were short
I've noticed that in men, their first gf, or first woman they get close to, often deeply affects his taste in women, but again, I find it hard to believe it happens with women too.
The closest thing I know of is the author of FMA lol.

 >>/114609/
 >>/114615/
It sounds like you have a case of oneitis, my friend. An abundance of new women and a little wisdom will probably cure you.
You might want to emotionally distance yourself from her before you hear about her being with other men and feeling like you're being NTR'd.

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 >>/114608/
> not as part of a femdom kink

 >>/114621/
No one else is going to go near a "creepy" and "crazy" girl like her. I need her back with every fiber of my being. Or I at least need the chance to go on that one date with her I missed by five minutes five years ago. If we need to depart we need to depart, but I gotta know.
(I most likely need to move far away from here because of stupid shitty gentrification anyway, though.)

 >>/114619/
No proof on hand but my own word. I was/am the type of guy that makes friends with women pretty easily (usually without being attracted to them fwiw) and they trust me so a decent amount of them would mention it every so often when talking about guys they were seeing. Still wasn't anywhere near the majority of them but enough to let me know there's no shortage of women like that, just like how men who like small tits (me) aren't the majority but there's still enough of them. Good point about the fat dudes being tall, they probably were, tho the women I've known to prefer short guys seemed to like em a little chubby. Not full on fat though. I don't think women in general get off on highly specific male features honestly, it seems like it's always about more broad things. Height instead of long limbs, fatness instead of moobs/gut, etc. Whereas men are more likely to hone in on specific body parts and clothing items and features.

 >>/114620/
These women were NOT trying to avoid seeming shallow lmao, they were still women, they just happened to like men who weren't stereotypical chads. They weren't ugly either, but they were all dorky in one way or another which def had a role in shaping their tastes I guess. 
> in men, their first gf often deeply affects his taste in women but I find it hard to believe it happens with women
I remember reading about some studies done that disproved the idea that parents shape someone's taste in the opposite sex and that the most influential thing is your first crush/love/gf/bf/whatever. I can't find it rn but I'll keep trying to look.

 >>/114626/
> a decent amount of them would mention it
I still don't quite believe women just saying it (actions louder than words), but I'll keep what you've been saying in mind. I sure wish I'm wrong about women, and that they're not utterly shallow with the same tastes.
> no shortage of women like that
Kinda hard to believe that when a ton of unattractive men are single\virgins, not to mention hypergamy.
> I don't think women in general get off on highly specific male features honestly, it seems like it's always about more broad things. Height instead of long limbs, fatness instead of moobs/gut, etc. Whereas men are more likely to hone in on specific body parts and clothing items and features.
That's a very good point, and one I hadn't considered.
> These women were NOT trying to avoid seeming shallow lmao
Women will lie even if it's to themselves, so ehhh idk.
> some studies done
That sounds interesting, I'd like to take a look at those studies too.

If what you're claiming is true, I believe it would help a lot of men out there. But only if it's true.

maybe you just need to approach more girls, pretty or not, what matters the most is if they like you, right?

 >>/114685/
> pretty or not
Woman detected???

women cannot feel love