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> Current and upcoming races

27.04 - 04.05 Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkiye 2.Pro
29.04 - 04.05 Tour de Romandie 2.UWT
01.05 Eschborn-Frankfurt 1.UWT
03.05 GP Immo Zone/Vloer-en chapewerken Smetryns 1.1 WE
03.05 Festival Elsy Jacobs à Garnich 1.1 WE
04.05 - 10.05 Vuelta España Femenina by Carrefour.es 2.WWT
04.05 Lotto Famenne Ardenne Classic 1.1
04.05 Festival Elsy Jacobs à Luxembourg 1.1 WE
08.05 Boucles de l'Aulne - Châteaulin 1.1
08.05 Pointe du Raz Ladies Classic 1.1 WE
09.05 Tour du Finistère Pays de Quimper 1.1
09.05 La Classique Morbihan 1.1 WE
09.05 - 01.06 Giro d'Italia 2.UWT
10.05 Grand Prix du Morbihan 1.Pro
10.05 Grand Prix du Morbihan Femmes 1.1 WE
11.05 Tro-Bro Léon 1.Pro
11.05 Trofee Maarten Wynants 1.1 WE
13.05 Classique Dunkerque / Grand prix des Hauts de France 1.Pro
14.05 Navarra Women's Elite Classic 1.Pro WE
14.05 - 18.05 4 Jours de Dunkerque / Grand Prix des Hauts de France 2.Pro
14.05 - 18.05 Tour de Hongrie 2.Pro
16.05 - 18.05 Itzulia Women 2.WWT
17.05 ZLM Omloop der Kempen Ladies 1.1 WE
18.05 Rund um Köln 1.1
20.05 Durango Durango Emakumeen Saria 1.1 WE
22.05 - 25.05 Vuelta a Burgos Feminas 2.WWT
23.05 - 25.05 Grande Prémio Internacional Beiras e Serra da Estrela 2.1
26.05 Mercan'Tour Classic Alpes-Maritimes 1.1
29.05 - 01.06 Boucles de la Mayenne - Crédit Mutuel 2.Pro
29.05 - 01.06 Tour of Norway 2.Pro

> Mecha-Rusbert's webm folders:

https://pastebin.com/Vrhn7DWy

> Bert van Koers' ciclismo quizzes:

https://www.sporcle.com/user/Bert_van_Koers/quizzes/

> Races info:

https://www.procyclingstats.com/
https://firstcycling.com/

> Free streams:

https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/

> Velodrama league code:

51196855

Previous thread:
 >>/2950/

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Eschborn - Frankfurt (1.UWT)
198.7km

Start List:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/eschborn-frankfurt/2025/startlist

Live Stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/eschborn-frankfurt/2025/result/live

Roadbook:
https://www.eschborn-frankfurt.de/fileadmin/content/3_Eschborn_Frankfurt/EF_2025/Elite/250415_REF-Roadbook_DinA4_FIN-DIGITAL_DS.pdf

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / youtube
Hessischer Rundfunk:
https://www.hessenschau.de/sport/mehr-sport/radrennen-frankfurt/index.html
https://www.ardmediathek.de/live/Y3JpZDovL2hyLmRlL0xpdmVzdHJlYW0tSFI
12:00 CET


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Tour de Romandie (2.UWT)
Stage 2
La Grande Béroche - La Grande Béroche
157km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/startlist

GC after Stage 1:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-1

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-2/live
https://www.tissottiming.com/2025/tdr/stage-2

Weather:
sunny
26°C
light wind

Current Leaders:
BRENNAN Matthew
BRENNAN Matthew
ZWIEHOFF Ben
BRENNAN Matthew

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / RTS / L'Equipe
15:30 CET



And I'm back. Quite a nice ride, but clearly I would have been fine with just 3hours. My ass really hurts after a while, I need to fix that






















































 >>/3997/
I had tree beers and first 10 km after were very painful. 25 km after I felt better than when we started. I really need to start doing proper breakfasts.
 >>/3998/
Tree beers + the lunch was about $20 + tip















I will be off to prepare gremolata for me salmon and asparagae.
May be late with results since they will be done in 20 minutes.

























 >>/3967/
strong

I woke up at 6, wanted to go for a 200km 1600hm ride, after 25km I felt like today is not the day for ciclismo. Went to a remote place at the Danube to grill shawarma, drink birra moretti and smoke huge joints all day. 

sometimes its the days not on the bike that are the best









 >>/4066/
> after 25km I felt like today is not the day for ciclismo
Happens, good part about not racing is you don't need to worry about those day and can go straight home




 >>/4078/
Yes, that's what he was supposed to do, give me a top 20 like Velasco and Arambaru (they were supposed to give me a top 10), not DNF when 4 of them made it in G1. FORLAN looking mfer.
Whiffed on COVI, unfortunately, he was for 12 too.















 >>/4092/
Very rare occurrence, usually happens only when someone bottles a race. Two berts did this time so there it is.

 >>/4094/
Yes, when I stood for a while I though I am seeing some Patje youngling but then I saw it closer and it is just a blatant rip-off.







 >>/4099/
They are, I was very wary of paths like this on my super new S-Works Roubaix on its very new carbon wheels wearing very new expensive Spec boots but this is fine, especially if you don't go crazy, on the side etc.
These kids today were riding every sketchy part of crumbling paths when not racing, not a worry in their mind.








 >>/4108/
Depends on Climbers and Unclassed. Guess there will have to be concessions made and goombling commenced to pick the rat, the tramadolman, the fads and still not end up with a bunch of shitters.








some fakerunner highlights from the belgian MJ race:
> Thor, Thor, Tuur, Rune, and Tuur-Emiel
> 31: BOGAERT Matthias 32: MOYAERT Matthis 
> COTTIGNIES Kyano 
> VERVOORT Yasu 
> Arnaud  DELI[MONT]
and of course, brave protagonist Witse BERTELS

 >>/4099/
Im riding this on a gravel bike with 32mm. Its the best surface for these tyres, you feel fast as fuck on this type of gravel or forest roads. And ofc the pros ride Roubaix on 32mm or less so your friends need to man up


 >>/4119/
somehow, there are still 4 Thor/Turr's who raced despite prominent Thor FEYAERTS, Thor FELIES, and Thor DAYER not racing. I will never get over this. why are there so many Thor's. why is there a pantheon of Thor's in belgian juniors right now

 >>/4118/
100% overdid it, oh look here officer, my place is clean as a whistle, I just bleached and disinfected every corner like a normal not-suspicious at all person.

 >>/4099/
I rode this exact road on me gravel with 32m gravel and its perfectly fine, on some small downhills you have to be wary of deeper pockets of gravel though.

based, are you going to seefeld?


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 >>/4124/
Thanks, good to know. We will probably be staying in Imst for 4 days but if you know any location better there, even better

Day 1 would be lap up to Kühtai
Day 2 would be this gravel road in the valley
Day 3 a small /hike/ from the middle station of the imst cable car
Day 4 up the gletcherstrasse

But I still suspect my mates will betray me days before departure

> In the Giro, Van Aert will not be riding against Mathieu van der Poel or Tadej Pogacar and that increases his chances, Bakelants also sees. "I think Wout will immediately climb a step in the Giro peloton", he sounds promising. "He could ride a very good Giro and be one of the most dominant riders."

I wonder how much wout pays him to keep writing this stuff every week


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Tour de Romandie (2.UWT)
Stage 3
Cossonay - Cossonay
183.1km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/startlist

GC after stage 2:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-2-gc

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-3/live
https://www.tissottiming.com/2025/tdr/stage-3

Weather:
sunny
27°C
light wind from south

Current Leaders:
BAUDIN Alex
BRENNAN Matthew
ZWIEHOFF Ben
LECERF Junior

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / RTS / L'Equipe
15:30 CET

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Presidential Cycling Tour of Türkiye (2.Pro)
Stage 6
Selçuk - Selçuk (Meryem Ana)
156km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/startlist

GC after stage 5:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-4-gc

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-6/live
https://iframe.cycling.matsport.com/competition/2025_TUR/2025_TUR_STAGE_06/timeline

Roadbook:
https://www.tourofturkiye.org.tr/Content/files/2025/Yaris_Rehberi/2025_RACE_GUIDE_v8.pdf

Current Leaders:
POELS Wout
LONARDI Giovanni
ÖRKEN Ahmet

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT
13:30 CET










































 >>/4171/
the 2023 team is actually a different team that was not associated with the male team, that then went under due to not finding sponsors and the vaughters branch then took over most riders since there was already a second EF female team at the time

 >>/4170/
when are they going to acknowledge that they  are in trouble and have to race for points like Astana does?
I'm guessing after they don't get as many points in the Giro as they expect to





 >>/4174/
It's like they don't appreciate how serious relegation will be. There are currently 4 pro conti teams above them in points this season (not counting Israel since they will move up) so they wont be getting any guaranteed invites next year if they are relegated.
Surely they'll get to race some relevant races but they will miss out on a lot of stuff especially grand tours where the competition for wild card invitations is pretty tough.











































Eh, missing one more guy in top 10, wish I didn't overthink CASTRILLO vs ROMEO and then ROMO won't be 100%, and didn't think VINE is one UAE too much.
Then it would be all a nice result from this race.












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VIne has to be very careful, otherwise he might hit his seasonal performance threshold too early. A BIG crash would then been needed to prevent him from surpassing the limit.

 >>/4233/
> Was there more in it after all? "If the pace had been a bit higher until the last corner, the peloton might have stayed in a ribbon. And that would have been better for me. Pascal (Eenkhoorn, ed.) certainly did a great job there, although I didn't see where the rest of the team was."

rest of the team FIRED





https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/jef-du-bin
well, that's incorrect. it's "du bist", bin is for the first person, "ich bin".



> That moment came a kilometre from the finish. “There was a hesitation behind me. I’m not very clear-headed, so I didn’t really know whether it was another kilometre to the top of the climb or to the finish. In any case, it was my moment and I seized it.”

Based tramadol vine

thinking about the Giro. we haven't seen Primoz in action since Catalunya. also those Albanian roads surely are a big wildcard in my opinion.

Movistar's choice to burn Romeo for Romo's sprint was certainly interesting. Did he tell them that he was going to be shit tomorrow or what?
In normal conditions, I'd imagine he was in good position to finish 5th-7th in GC, now idk if he can top 10.








 >>/4250/
I think their main focus is kooij, yates will ride GC but I don't think anyone expects anything 
wout will get some stages, I remember him saying he wants the points jersey but I don't see how you can get that if you're not sprinting atleast top 10 in the mass sprints




 >>/4247/
One or more of them are definitely going to have a slow start to the Giro, I think.
And although races with Roglic tend to produce a lot of slurping and sprints for bonis, I suspect we'll see some gaps by the end of week 1.



 >>/4256/
Ehh who knows.  I'm sure they will try to appease both of them.
It might be another "you take one and then I take one" situation like Alpecin did in TdF with Philipsen and Merlier a few years ago.

 >>/4259/
> Lidl-Trek collected a total of 6583 UCI points. With that, it left UAE Emirates XRG (5968 points in 19 races) and Alpecin-Deceuninck (4747 points in 21 races) well behind. But the data team did not base its calculations solely on UCI points. They also looked at the number of victories, podium places and top ten rankings in the 22 classics.

> In terms of the number of podium places (11) and top ten rankings (21), Lidl-Trek is also in first place. UAE Emirates XRG (10 and 15) and Alpecin Deceuninck (also 10 and 15) are in joint second place. However, these two teams do have more victories than Lidl-Trek. Thanks in particular to Tadej Pogacar and Mathieu van der Poel respectively, they have five victories, while Lidl-Trek remains stuck at four.













 >>/4271/
 >>/4272/
Honestly the current LIDL era is the best the team has ever been. They should embrace being best of the rest after Matje/Pogi instead of trying to word soup their way into a moral victory.


 >>/4275/
Carapaz' shit team, Almeida's coof, Landismo's abysmal ITT, old men Nibali and Valverde, etc...
We talk a lot about ***'s win but Hindley's is just about at the same tier.












 >>/4286/
really depends on the region of your knee where the pain occurs (inside or outside).
there all kinds of solutions, like readjusting your cleats position, saddle height, position and type (some berts would tell you to get a sqlab saddle, can you imagine?) and   q-factor. 
I had inner knee pain (the side facing the bike), so getting pedals with smaller q-factor solved it for me.









it's interesting that starting around 2010, both the Giro and (especially) Vuelta became a lot more international in their podiums








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Didn't expect this place to actually still be active.
Just come back home Berts. You all know that this isn't gonna stick. 
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 >>/4324/
 >>/4326/
if they really bring arrieta that convinces me they will not work together, why would you bring a pure climber to be sixth in a mountain train instead of another long flat dom unless you were giving free reign to the big bois. what do they do if baroncini DNF's. next most likely flat dom is vine [lol]. hope they go full peak movistar and get raided in the third week, imagine the kino









> So what is this approach? Well, Pedersen is using a demanding heat training method that involves riding indoors for around an hour each day while wearing full winter gear. The sessions begin at a steady 270 watts, with Pedersen allowing his heart rate to climb steadily — often finishing with 15 minutes at 255–270 watts and a heart rate nearing 180 bpm. “It’s terrible — but terribly effective,” explains the Lidl-Trek star in the latest episode of the Lang Distance podcast. “It’s awful training. I’d rather ride seven hours a day for a full week.”

fads is BACK

 >>/4337/
whats the "science" behind this. my extremely amateur intuition feels like putting yourself up conditions where your FTP becomes 270 seems bad, wouldnt the conventional advice be that you'd want to do intervals in ideal conditions. giro will be the ultimate clash of the training philosophies, mr 2eide vs the white monster

 >>/4337/
I was worried yesterday when South France Bertrand said that he almost took off his gilet during his ride. gladly he kept it on and gained an additional 20 watts thanks to the heat adaption.





 >>/4343/
> Apparently you're having dinner with that other bad boy, Bradley Wiggins, soon?

"At the end of June we're both guests at the Wattage Cycling Club in Ostend. We've never been in touch, but I'd like to catch up sometime. We'll see, maybe he'll say: 'Fuck you, I don't need it'."

> If you don't know him, what's there to talk about?

"At the end of the seventies I helped his dad find a job. He had come to live in Ghent as an Australian and had nothing left, he couldn't afford his food. I made sure he could drive the forklift truck at Marc Zeepcentrale (where Lefevere was team leader, ed.) in the morning and train in the afternoon. Why? Because I have a good side, I guess?"
"Bradley was born in 1980. The year of Tom Boonen and also my eldest son Dieter. His father left him after two years."

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Reminder: The Banshees of Inisherin today.
At 11:00 and 22:00 in Central Euro time zone, pretty much the only time zone that matters.
https://cytu.be/r/endcorner

Right now American hobo camping shenanigans, from yt.

 >>/4344/
> Were you surprised when Evenepoel said he had thought about quitting?

“How does that work during a rehabilitation period: the winter lasts a long time, you just sit there, you can’t move your shoulder. Then the walls start closing in on you and you start to think negatively. But who doesn’t get down at some point?”
“Evenepoel is from the modern generation: they show their emotions more easily. I see riders crying more and more often after a race. Maybe because there is more stress, but also because that is part of it now. The women melt from that.”
“If I had known that, I would have cried a lot more. Apparently I did nothing but cry for the first two years of my life. That made it all go away. Now I only get emotional at funerals.”

> There is some talk about the fact that he is inspired by Islam.

"I don't know anything about that. I know he used to be Catholic, but now? People laugh at people who pray, but there are still riders who pray. Julien Vermote goes to church and prays. His prayers have been heard: he was without a team for two years."

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 >>/4346/
“But now I can speak freely. I was seriously annoyed, there are no standards anymore. We pay 120,000 euros a year for our WorldTour license. There are rules, strict laws about when you can make a proposal to a rider under contract, but everyone ignores them and no one gets fined.”

> You did that too, didn't you?

“Oh yeah? Why doesn't Wout van Aert ride for us? Because I respected the regulations. I told him: if you come with a letter that you are free, it's fine.”

> Every now and then you have to talk to someone who is still under contract, otherwise you are too late, right?

“Now you do, but not before. The time of Lefevere, when a word was a word, no longer exists. A handshake is a contract to me.”

> We knew that you have principles, but now you also sound a bit naive.

(on a roll) “Ralph Denk, with his false head, invited me to the Sheraton Hotel in Brussels during corona. We were all alone in a large room, he hadn't even provided a drink. He asked how much my team had to cost and what position I wanted. So I asked what he really wanted. ‘Remco’, he said.”
“I still needed a major sponsor for the following year and I said to leave us alone until March 31. That's early in the year, but if I didn't have anyone by then, I was prepared to give my riders time off. But I found Deceuninck.”
“In the meantime, Denk had already sent an email to dad Evenepoel, with Bora in the header. He made them completely crazy. You can lose your WorldTour license based on that. I forwarded that to the UCI. They promised that they would definitely do something with it. What did they do: nothing. They are afraid of Red Bull.” “Who the fuck is the UCI? I did what I did for 45 years. I brought a few hundred million euros to the race. After my retirement I didn’t even get an email. Nothing, no thanks, nothing. But I know they’re glad I’m gone. Of course, such a bore... Ha, I don’t need the UCI. And they can’t suspend me anymore.” (grins)


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 >>/4347/
> Are your successors going to play the same games?

(shrugs) “Last summer in the Tour I had one meeting with the big boss of Red Bull. Not that idiot from the team, but with the CEO of the company itself. It was Friday night. That man was dead tired. He has two Formula 1 teams, football teams everywhere, and then he tries to buy off a driver and it doesn’t work. That man had had enough, and I was happy.”

> Bakala has had enough too, we hear.

“Bakala invested money in the team again, he also bought my shares, but now he’s fed up, yes. That nonsense has to stop, otherwise he’ll get his lawyers on it.” “So now there are two options: either you say ‘no fucking way’ to everyone who tries to get Remco, or you get a few more million by selling him. But you have to be able to sell that story to Soudal, Quick-Step and Specialized. I am glad that it is no longer my responsibility.”












 >>/4360/
bora seems the most probable
DSM just invested in kwabkobsen's new legs and has a bunch of youngsters
visma is probably happy to not have a sprinter so they can skip even more races


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Tour de Romandie (2.UWT)
Stage 4
Sion - Thyon 2000
128.4km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/startlist

GC after stage 3:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-3-gc
BAUDIN Alex
VINE Jay
ZWIEHOFF Ben
BAUDIN Alex

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-4/live
https://www.tissottiming.com/2025/tdr/stage-4

Weather:
light rain and wet roads at the start
overcast and dry conditions in the afternoon
23°C max / 11°C at Thyon 2000

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / RTS / L'Equipe
14:00 CET

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Presidential Cycling Tour of Türkiye (2.Pro)
Stage 7
Selçuk - Çeşme
144.2km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/startlist

GC after stage 6:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-6-gc
POELS Wout
KULSET Johannes
POELS Wout
Caja Rural - Seguros RGA

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-7/live
https://iframe.cycling.matsport.com/competition/2025_TUR/2025_TUR_STAGE_07/timeline

Roadbook:
https://www.tourofturkiye.org.tr/Content/files/2025/Yaris_Rehberi/2025_RACE_GUIDE_v8.pdf

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT
11:30 CET













 >>/4372/
if he so he's a bad one. optimal jobbering is phoning it in at 28-30 yrs where you can still sell yourself on untapped potential and then be able to coast from there, he pulled the move too early. Van Baarle, for example








 >>/4384/
True, though his rider profile might be one of the worst to be washed at. not much niche for a small puncheur who doesnt actually have the punch to win pro races








last time they did this stage there were some interesting results
big jorg doing well
first real showing of maxxed poole
> Pinot





 >>/4397/
Well, top riders ride the same top races. Not surpring when there isn't much overlap between WT races in the calendar.
PN is the slightly surprising one with a 9 month gap to Tirreno. I guess the hillier Tirreno requires a bit more experience.




























I have a confession cyc. I bought some gravel bib from decathlon with pockets on the size and it's actually quite comfy to store bars and gels






 >>/4426/
speaking of bars, I went thru many a types and brands in the last couple of years and the ones that i think work more than placebo and are actually tasty are from DM


























In the last five minutes, Carlton has covered road engineering, Switzerland in WW2, the history of Alpine dukes, the guitarist from Deep Purple, the Montreux Jazz Festival, the origin of the song Mr Blue Sky by ELO, speculating on ROGLIČ possibly passing out jerseys








> I wonder when Jay Vine will start waxing his mustache like a fighter pilot or old pirate 
I'm actually glad we don't have Carlton for every race because it makes the races he does cover truly special














 >>/4476/
I'm feeling a cheeky Vine betrayal today and TT to victory tomorrow 

He mentioned on his IG yesterday how he is a protected rider for UAE so if JOAO slumps at the start of the climb today, I think he will go



> The deontological committee at the VRT also looked into it,” said Van Gucht. “People may not like to hear it, but they have determined that no journalistic error was made, except that a number of words were perhaps chosen unluckily.” Van Gucht finally emphasized that he would like to have “a beer or a coffee” with Evenepoel
All is well





 >>/4480/
Definitely not impossible and I'm not too opposed to the Vinester winning, but it would need a performance we haven't yet seen from him. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think that Vine's only good performance in a big mountain not from the break was Jebel Jais last year.




















































































































































 >>/4632/
a lenny victory would be a great reason to start squeaking but on the other hand bahrain is such a bad team that we may very well just make fun of fdj instead


















 >>/4651/
Literally outsmarted Joao. He was first thru the final corner with less than 100m to go, not enough space for Joao to get around him after braking for the corner























Top 5 close together, Lennergy Pharma and especially Patje's Angels preparing for a ITT assualt on Richie Porte Memorial Team.










 >>/4682/
come on, I know he's awful but outside of remco the next good TT'er is like ion izagirre or some shit
even sepp kuss could squak out some absolutely sulphurous TT in the vuelta

> Gaudu +6:26
> Vlasov +6:32
Right behind some guy named "Ramses Debruyne". Can't make that up. Unless this guy actually was made up
















 >>/4698/
Why doesn't the dude just say he's here for training and volume, all those interviews of I'm feeling really good and now he's working for some shitters white jersey who is clearly not keeping it with lenny at the front











> Marc Hirschi will not participate in the Giro d’Italia after all. Tudor announced the Swiss as an eye-catcher earlier, but has now not included him in the selection due to a lack of form. He is included in the eight: Maikel Zijlaard, Rick Pluimers and leader Michael Storer.

Imagine being so fucking dogshit even a proconti team doesn't take you to a grand tour. 
Really made the deal of the century this guy





 >>/4716/
no refunds kek
its like he grinded all them italian classics to level up (get a juicy contract) and now that hes max level hes sitting on his ass doing nothing

















If you don't believe in Bardet winning the Giro, Martinez winning the Tour and Martin winning the Vuelta, then you don't believe in anything.



> Eppure i sospetti c’erano. 
> «Vincevo, ero italiano e il boss della mia squadra, Vinokourov, aveva un passato ambiguo come altri manager. Sono stato pedinato, mi hanno aperto la macchina e controllato il telefono e sono sicuro che mi siano entrati anche in casa per trovare prove che non esistevano. I ciclisti erano bersagli facili. Mai nella vita mi sono dopato e soprattutto mai ho pensato di farlo. Mi hanno controllato un milione di volte, possono testare le provette tra cent’anni. A testa alta, sempre». 
> E adesso, Vincenzo? 
«Faccio mille cose, tra cui promuovere il Giro d’Italia. Ma soprattutto, vivo. In aprile ho viaggiato in Sicilia con la famiglia per mostrarla bene a Emma e Miriam, le bambine. A due anni dal ritiro, il primo viaggio da turista della vita: Cefalù, la valle dei Templi di Agrigento, la Villa del Casale di piazza Armerina. Tornando a casa siamo passati davanti al Museo Regionale ed Emma mi ha chiesto cosa ci fosse da vedere. C’è Antonello, le ho detto, un gigante della storia dell’arte. Quando la vedi tramite Antonello o dalle grandi foreste dei Peloritani, Messina è davvero “u megghiu posttu nto munnu”». 

Based shark

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 >>/4734/
Unfortunately, we need to get a squeaker onto a big budget team that can really work their time trial position, gear, and skills. 

There is not a single French GC guy on a big budget team.



 >>/4744/
Agree...I love Lenny but he has never won a stage race aside from U23 results. Sometimes he just disappears for unclear reasons.

Winning a GT is three weeks of hell.


How exactly did I impersonate people? I used random flags so my posts are taken at face value instead haha fuck schizobrit. Banned for standing up for myself lmao, you are a pathetic bunch. Really, genuinely pathetic. Thank christ real cyc exists and the worst are wanking each other off in the corner of the internet.


I sincerely hope the clique stays here, some very nasty people here that take it far too serious. Jantard is a stupid cunt too.


 >>/4750/
le 28-year-old promising young talent
that Vuelta was probably a fluke either way but to be fair to him he did suffer some big injury a year or two after which certainly didn't help him




 >>/4748/
Don't know, not fully disclosed yet, probably very similar to last year as the second stage is in Karpacz again, nyswinslol if he is casted here again.
Probably it will go through my land again, probably not through my town as my mayor would be boasting about it already, but who knows.












 >>/4766/
It was fine. The only thing that was truly horrible (aside from the corked Heredia Tondonia Rouge) was the Wits End Luna Shiraz from TDU. I poured out 3/4 of the bottle.









 >>/4774/
There's a lot of places with prices in the ~$45 range but I just went with a local shop that has a good selection I like. 

My usual Riesling producer is Hofgut Falkenstein (which is single greatest quality-to-price ratio of any wine I've ever had) but I wanted to try something different.

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 >>/4776/
Basically, I am a foreigner to this wine region (I know, this might sound strange regarding the "short" distance from my hood) but the last very great white wine I acquired from this region was a Grauburgunder from a winery next to Trier.

I am just a beer guy.



Oh, but... do you know about Eiswein?

 >>/4777/
Yes, I used to live in Finger Lakes region of NY and had a fair amount of Eiswein. It is good stuff and I have a couple in my cellar.

One of the great epiphanies of wine-drinking is realizing that sweet wines can be incredible. Riesling and Vouvray, Sauternes, Madeira, etc. I will never forget the first time I had Chateau d'Yquem. The mind looks for something to grasp onto in the midst of such beauty.

(Port still is a bit syrupy for me, but I probably have never had a truly great Port)



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 >>/4778/
The journey is the adventure. You will taste shitty wine, astonishing wine...
I hate Port. I can only imagine it cooking it down in some sauce.
 >>/4779/
They always complain, but if you respond properly... (equally blunt, but smart) they grant you with a smile.
And some secret local knowledge! (food, wine, etc...)





Lenny and Almeida did beat Yates' record, huh.
By just a second, but I'm still a bit surprised since they seemed to fuck around a bit. I guess the pace was good from the bottom of the climb.










> “Egan is doing well. He’s training at home in Colombia, up in the mountains. Everything is going smoothly, and from what I can gather from speaking with him, he’s motivated... He’s thinking about how to win the Giro. He’s always happy, optimistic, and ready to overcome any obstacles in his path.”
> Zandio [Ineos DS] retains confidence that Bernal will be a genuine Maglia Rosa threat
are you berts ready for some prime ineos sulphur







 >>/4801/
from what I've read it seems like he doesn't really have it in him to adept the monk lifestyle required to become a top tier rider 
might unironically have peaked too early

 >>/4802/
Last time I saw him in nokere koerse dude was straight up fat.
Then it came out they let him choose a coach which was a friend of him and he didn't train well with a shit ton of travel days from spain to the farm in wallonia


 >>/4805/
cycling operates on a principle of a circle of kwab and rebirth, and right now remco is in the deepest darkest depths of the kwab. cosmic forces are working against him







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Presidential Cycling Tour of Turkiye (2.Pro)
Stage 8
Çeşme - İzmir (Karşıyaka)
105.7km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/startlist

GC after stage 7:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-7-gc
POELS Wout
LONARDI Giovanni
POELS Wout
Caja Rural - Seguros RGA

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-of-turkey/2025/stage-8/live
https://iframe.cycling.matsport.com/competition/2025_TUR/2025_TUR_STAGE_08/timeline

Roadbook:
https://www.tourofturkiye.org.tr/Content/files/2025/Yaris_Rehberi/2025_RACE_GUIDE_v8.pdf

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT
10:30 CET

 >>/4805/
the only way I see him losing is if he is too careful in the corners at beginning and end of the TT and Küng goes crazy in those (without chuting) with home advantage

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Tour de Romandie (2.UWT)
Stage 5 (ITT) 
Genève - Genève
17.1km

Startlist:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/startlist

GC after stage 4:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-4-gc
MARTINEZ Lenny
VINE Jay
ZWIEHOFF Ben
MARTINEZ Lenny
XDS Astana Team

Start order:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-5/live/startorder

Live stats:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-romandie/2025/stage-5/live
https://www.tissottiming.com/2025/tdr/stage-5

Streams:
https://tiz-cycling-live.io/
https://cycling.today/live-streaming/
Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / RTS / L'Equipe
14:00 CET







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 >>/4821/
scrolling thru the GC and TT specialists the only runners i have some sort of anathema against are GAUDU and CAVAGNA, and both have already been punished for their misdeeds. all of the top TT specialists are boys too, JPP and kueng especially















 >>/4832/
It rolls of the tongue probably a bit easier for auslanders than Międzynarodowy Wyścig Kolarski o Puchar Prezydenta Miasta Grudziądza.
The kermiskoers I've been to on Thursday was basically La Coupe du Maire de la commune de Chrząstowice.

Also our rapist Bertele already raced yesterday.








 >>/4844/
honestly really poor sprint from him, mallucelli timed it well but the big man cant be going level with LONARDI and having difficulty getting over fucking BRUSTENGA. i fear the big one hundred might be in jeopardy




 >>/4848/
rewatching - he seems to have gotten a clean handoff into hesters wheel after bevort was done, i still think he just didnt have it. although if he goes on the barrier side out of colnaghi's wheel and closes the door on mallucelli i think he wins the sprint








































 >>/4882/
> Only 21st in the Itzulia TT not even a month ago
Either that hill is more significant than expected and GC guys will dominate, or something funky is going on.



















































































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