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so im prolly preaching to the choir here, but kohl has been completely and totally overrun by pedos. i have reason to suspect that it is being done purposefully, either as a way to disrupt /int/, entrap unproxied/naive bernds who cant into clearing their cache, and plant CP in their temporary files, and/or to use /int/ as a wall of noise, and bernds themselves, as a way to distract from their own exchanging of such content. im leaning towards the last one tbh hence why the offer of simply making a new board dedicated to such content. i think these bernds with nothing to hide, and no threat model nor intention of viewing such degeneracy, are at risk. i believe this is being cultivated purposefully so as to surround their gaggle of degenerates with low-hanging fruit who may be stupid enough to accidentally click on something, or unaware that when viewing a page with a bunch of thumbnails of child models, all those thumbnails get downloaded by your browser.

i gave a reasonable list of demands that i feel are not too extreme, and limit no ones free speech other than the freedom to endanger naive bernds and plant CP on their computers unknowingly and even gave a provision where proxies/tor are not to be banned, but it was not enough. the mods are 100% complicit in it, and allow it, and worse, encourage it. they feel that pedoposting improves the quality of the board via keeping keins and ledditors out. they feel that removing suggestively posed, scantily clad children pics means turning the joint into a reddit-tier hugbox but again, i suspect their motives are more that of self preservation, as even the most unaware of bernds has heard that kohl is run by pedos. this, even though such innocent content like candydoll webms is certainly enough for some bernd in a more conservative cunt to be fucked over hard and have his life ruined if found in his cache

ive been quietly harboring suspicions of this sort of activity for a while, but have been biting my tongue so as to not cause another mass exodus over nothing. but this is not nothing. these fucks are doing this intentionally and at this point, im certain of it. in the past few days, i heard enough other bernds exclaim similar theories about how kohl is nothing more than a fed honeypot even that dergeneral was forced to 86 the old kc serb in order to cause an exodus to a more thoroughly controlled new site, or that the owners have been co-opted/blackmailed into setting one up, and also that the use of a, now fast-moving, /int/ is being used to cover for their smut dealings.

even when asking the mods to be transparent and make a clear definitive statement on their personal moderative tendencies on such content, and to post this warning on /int/ and warn these naive bernds of the risk they face by posting there, ive been met with deflectionary responses, and weak-ass limp-dicked argumentative tactics to which i am utterly immune, as well as a distinct lack of action. they want this, and it couldnt be more clear. but worse, they want the deception. as such, i suspect foul play of some sort
idk, im really worried about the safety of the dozens of bernds who post there on a daily basis without proxy, and without clearing their caches constantly. i love all you guys a whole lot and id hate to see anyones lives get fuckt because some random pedonigger had to bump his shitty thread full of candydoll webms and pics of naked preteens to the first page, and some poor sap who didnt know any better refreshed the first page while it happened. ive seen this tactic used on other imageboards countless times and against countless communities, and with all the commotion, i felt the need to speak up about it.
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i know the hungarian BO least i think hes BO here is a good dude, and ive posted here from time to time, but im interested in hearing all of your thoughts on such matters. obviously, from being here, you all have your own problems with the management and/or clientele over there, so please enlighten me on what your policy is on such degenerate fucking content. i love free speech, and in my experience, any time it appears, shortly after, so do the pedofags, and soon after that, the board is destroyed or seized or completely overrun by their fucking filth. i feel that the common bernd on kohl needs to be made aware of this threat to his safety, so that he can make an informed decision to stay/leave or proxy up/increase his threat model. how do you all feel about this?

ill post non-direct links of some the various complaint threads for anyone to look over if they wish. please do note though, that after the pedos started losing the argument in these threads, as always, they started spamming their smut nothing illegal in most cunts tbh, but i figure i should make you aware of it before examining it lest im doing exactly what im crying out against, so please use appropriate caution in viewing the threads

https://ghostbin.com/paste/bhavy


Endchan gets attacked quite regularly by the pedo spammer, we just have to stay vigilant and delete as quickly as possible.

That said, these aren't posting such eye scarring content as yet. The question is, does the admin want to allow their presence into his community? The simple solution is just to keep deleting their content until they get bored and go away.

Be warned, creating a board for them will attract others and illegal content will get posted. 8chan managed it but only by having a terrific moderation team to keep them in line.

If mods themselves are turning a blind eye to pedo infestation, then only strong user pressure could get them to do something about it. But mod negligence allows more and more pedos to settle, which further reduces the prospect of pressuring mods to act. So the long-term tendency is for things to get worse and worse over time.
And an influx of pedos not only presents a risk not only due to the content posted but also due to to all the complications presented by any immigration of posters to an established board.

Pedos like muddy waters. Some of the content they post isn't illegal at all, but as soon as they realize they can post it freely, increasingly ambiguous files get posted and more of them join the board. It's a slippery slope and stopping it at its roots is the only solution.

The honeypot theory sounds tinfoil-y but I wouldn't rule it out. There's a precedent for feds infiltrating fringe groups.

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> the hungarian BO
The BO is actually a Pole, he just doesn't post a lot.

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 >>/21342/
> Endchan gets attacked quite regularly by the pedo spammer, we just have to stay vigilant and delete as quickly as possible
where is his proxy from?
it seems the most venomous ones are utilizing tor->secure-core VPNs, so that the they appear as regular countryballs and not onions/proxies. but the tor mountable ones arent too numerous, so its normally one of only a few countries.

> That said, these aren't posting such eye scarring content as yet
based on their mostly clothed content and age group as well as the candydoll shite, i have a feeling that this is the crew that got ousted by jim over on 8 last year or whenever that was.
a few of them seem eerily familiar
especially the SK proxy. i cant put my finger on where ive run into him before
> The question is, does the admin want to allow their presence into his community?
and here is the fucking crux of the matter
dunno about the admin as he never says anything anyways
picsrel are the only real statements weve been able to coax out of the mods there. as can clearly be seen, they are attempting to use this shit to weed out their version of undesirables (ie people who dont want child models and candydoll vids staying on the first page for hours at a time. or threads full of naked children staying up for days). i can only imagine this will get much worse, both from our protests aggravating the pedoposters, and the fact that they now know they have the mods full support in this

> Be warned, creating a board for them will attract others and illegal content will get posted. 8chan managed it but only by having a terrific moderation team to keep them in line.
tbh i agree with you here. the thing i was trying to do was try and goad out a clear idea of their personal opinion, but also, i wanted to see how they would react to the idea of posting on the site without the dozens of other bernds to cloud their traffic. they refused to even address it, and it lends more credence to my theory that they wish to use /int/ as a host for their parasitic activitiesand/or they wish to have bernd there because they are running a honeypotleaning towards the former here tbh

 >>/21344/
> If mods themselves are turning a blind eye to pedo infestation
100%
> then only strong user pressure could get them to do something about it
im trying to drum up some controversy/feel out the general sentiment.
its clear im far from the only one upset about it, and complaints have been increasing all over the board, but the amount of pedospammers has increased similarly
theres quite a lot of them at this point already
> mod negligence allows more and more pedos to settle, which further reduces the prospect of pressuring mods to act
we are here nao
> long-term tendency is for things to get worse and worse over time.
and thats what im trying to avoid
every single free speech based community ends up doing this dance, and it always ends in the site being destroyed
> Some of the content they post isn't illegal at all, but as soon as they realize they can post it freely, increasingly ambiguous files get posted and more of them join the board
again, this is exactly whats happening currently. most of the stuff is clothed, much of it isnt even sexualized yet, but like you said, we both know where this is heading. the sharp increase in candydoll pics and vids is what had me say something. while that stuff isnt ever "hard", its certainly enough to land bernds in more conservative countries in some hot water. and thats what has me concerned more than anything. the mods do not give a single solitary fuck about protecting these users, and in fact it could speculated that they are trying to do it. honeypot or not, theyre using that muddy water to try and weed out bernds, and dont seem to give a shit about the consequences for the poor innocent bernd who ends up with that shit in his temp files
> The honeypot theory sounds tinfoil-y
i agree, but again, i was looking more for their reaction than anything with that. im leaning much harder towards the idea that they wish to use the site traffic to hide in the noise. doesnt hurt that the bernds with nothing to hide are low hanging fruit in the event that they do catch the eyes of feds
> There's a precedent for feds infiltrating fringe groups.
aint it the truth tho?
fug

sage for doublepost



I didn't read all yet but for a quick reply I want to raise two points:
1. as the others stated I'm not the BO
2. CP doesn't belong to imageboards - frankly CP belongs nowhere - even on 4chan/b it was an meme about the CP (and a previous CP case where content was reported to FBI and moot went to testify and such - as to my best knowledge I wasn't around back then), here the chan's rules states that such content which goes against the law of the US (like CP) isn't allowed

All right. I'll read it further and will reply, but in the meantime I have to go with my day.
Hang on, dude.

All right.
I see that mostly not explicitly illegal material is posted and yeah some arguments can be raised to move the goalpost.
Such argument can be the legal age, but sometimes this is misunderstood, for example on the Hungary one can have consensual sex with a 14+ grill but pornographic material (photos, videos etc.) can only be made and owned if the grill is 18+ so for example if a dude keeps nudes of his 17 yo. gf even that counts as illegal. Just checked the law for Hungarians who are interested: Btk (2012. évi C. törvény) 204. § which defines what can be pornographic material but it gives a wriggle room which can be used to dispute what counts as such. For the intention of owning certain pictures: the posters you mentioned post non-nude child models I check the thread the pictures gets downloaded by the browser, then the authorities can examine what I do with such pictures. Am I a talent scout who looks for young models for fashion business or whatever? No. Then what am I doing with such pictures even if they aren't sexually explicit materials? This calls for trouble. But even if Bernd/Anon don't get legal punishment, it can further destroy his personal relations. There are always people who will look contempt on Bernd after such thing come to their knowledge, this "oh but I don't even step outside for years now" or "oh I'm such a recluse" argument is a BS.
Keeping "the normies" away is also a shitty argument, then why not just post gore 24/7? And most of the Bernds browse reddit and such places anyway. Also who the fuck wants to come to any KC related boards from the normieweb?
Nevertheless those type of threads aren't /int/ related and even if not outright bannable offenses it isn't a reasonable idea to move/direct them to a board exclusively maintained for those or fit more into the theme like /b/. I think you did good to suggest such solution.
Here not long ago the Russian authorities asked the removal of some lolicon images from /librejp/. We were against the deletion you still can find discussions in some threads, and while it fits to /librejp/ I don't really want such posts here. But here on /kc/ it can be easily ignored if it is posted on an occasion, and if it gets repeated it can get deleted as spam. And again the intention, now I wrote this maybe someone gets the grand idea to test what I wrote in practice but then it is obvious why is that posted and I can report that content.
Personally I think we shouldn't tolerate such content for the reason Brazil Bernd wrote: it's a slippery slope, we don't need such people here. An occasional discussion on age of consent and such (like the one that gifted a banner) is fine and fun but dumping hundreds of little girl/boy pictures isn't belong here.
I'm for freedom of speech and opinion but this isn't even fall into either category.

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Any free-to-access community requires some kind of moderation for normal operation. Conspiracies and intentions of community-disrupting actions actually don't matter - it doesn't matter if spammer spams for fun (these people exist) or doing it for specific purpose. If some place without moderation exists peacefully, it is only because some crazy person with much free time didn't discover this place. World is evil and bad place, so any community must have means to protect itself.

Although if you really want true free speech, you must not complain even if content is bad for you (morally, legally etc). But most of people don't want this, they want topical discussion. Personally, I don't care about any (really) content at all, but I imagine that there are people who care much more.

Considering Kohl (and imageboards as general) - imageboards aren't profitable business and owners typically do it because they just want it, so they may or may not listen to opinion of users. What to do? I don't know, amass users, ask moderators to do something, and if they wouldn't... hmm, maybe make own imageboard where leadership team represents values of community more than on kohl (preferably they need to be main part of community).

Those mods are just gonna get themselves fucked over the moment anyone reports the site. Even if it isn't illegal most hosts won't agree to host that kind of content. Also why Kohlchan's Americaball isn't fat?


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I think you'd report it to their host or domain registrar, but given kohl's creation, I'm sure they'll get similar recompense in the end so you wouldn't necessarily have to do anything as I'm sure they'll turn on each other at some point.

 >>/21362/
I don't think it's our job to report it but everyone makes his own decisions.

 >>/21361/
> Also why Kohlchan's Americaball isn't fat?
Because it's only fat here and 8. On KC main it was regular ball (with shades, like on Kohl).

 >>/21360/
> maybe make own imageboard where leadership team represents values of community more than on kohl
There are several KC derivatives and /int/ boards now those who leave can pick another or make their own it's their business.

However I think what our business is being a usable option for those who are looking for alternatives. Maybe we could create a thread to sum up our board and draw clear rules (which was none so far, but can change in the future) or our standing in certain questions. If "we" as a collective have such beside "we just want comfy posting" that's a good one tho. What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.
Maybe one thing our business is letting people know that there are alternatives, such as ours, but not necessarily only ours.

 >>/21365/
> If "we" as a collective have such beside "we just want comfy posting" that's a good one tho. What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.
That could be worth thinking about if we have a big migration like after KC main shut down again, but I'd rather hope that we don't need something like that since most decent posters should be able to learn all that information simply by browsing the board.



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> What is allowed, what isn't this is one short list, what is encouraged, what is enforced. And keep it clear and short and sticky it.

My experience says that rules don't really matter, moderator persona matter much more. You can't codify everything because humans are irrational beings, and using rules too literally often doesn't work - people will find a way to avoid rules by using some tricks and then comply loudly about moderator's oppression or prejudice. Internet and real life communities are full of drama because of this. You also couldn't easily write precise rules about content, because it isn't easy to describe what is "kc-style" and what is not. In the end it will be moderator (one of few) who do the decision after all.

Although having some guide will be helpful, like "it isn't porn site", "it isn't korean music video host", "we like long and autistic discussions" and "we don't like deliberate disruption of discussions". Of course having rule about illegal content is ok, although there are plenty of problems (like that Russian ban). Whatever, again, it will end at moderator's side after all.

opie here
wew

 >>/21350/

> Wow, everything's totally fucking fucked mate. Abandon ship.
heres the thing that i really dont like about this all.
my suspicions about the place being a honeypot/wall of noise are still lingering, and in a lot of ways, strengthening

mods have made it very clear that there will be no negotiation on this. only files that include explicit content will be removed. like you said that includes fully naked children of any age. even setting aside legal issues, that is something that has the potential to destroy any bernd, no matter of country or local legal stance on the content. while theyre posting mostly grey area stuff now, i fear that after this has been made clear to the pedos and especially after being attacked by most of the community, that things will be stepped up to that level on a more regular basis. and i also know from seeing this happen on freech that the pedos will tell their whole fucking tribe that kc is the place to be to post such degeneracy

so to test my theory on whether or not the mods are simply pedos themselves trying to make a pedo clubhouse, or if theres something more sinister, i posted in a way where i conceded that they are the ones who get the final word that final word being that naked 3yos is "fucking cool bruh" and also "idgaf about my site users safety/well-being". now that theyve stated their intention to make /int/ a place for such content, my next request was for them to tell the bernds of /int/, as a mod, what is allowed/not, and to put an end to this. they have out and out refused, stating that "everyone already knows whats legal and whats not" lol no. the serbs in liechtenstein. how many non-pedo bernds do you think actually know the law on CP of such a place? id wager slim to none and that to make a simple sticky post on /int/ for a few days would be a "waste of time". this while he took the time to respond to several of my posts. im abstaining from dumping the word on this revelation on /int/ itself because im trying to test if he will be willing to cause a mass exodus and lose the bernds that surround him and his friends activities or if it is a honeypot, lose access to his targets. this reluctance is spooking the hell out of me tbh, and i cant see why someone who yesterday proclaimed that he wanted the smut there to "filter out keins", and also proclaimed to want an end to this "headache", now seems so reluctant to do either of those things in one simple sticky post. because "muh too much work" archive fucking related. its what ive been dealing with the last few days. holy fucking shit. i dont buy it and something doesnt add up here. i fear we may be dealing with something much more serious than simply a group of mods/admins who wish to have a board of absolute free speech. at the very least we can see that from their inability to tolerate walls of text, they were kc/b/ posters, not kc/int/ posters

judging by your guys posts, i can see im actually in good fucking company for srs discushun for once, and im sorry i cant post replies to anything right now, but im worn out from this shit tbh. i feel like ive been shouting underwater for well over 48 hours now. ill give yall a readthrough tonight and dive back in tomorrow. i need a fucking break

heres the meta threda
no degenerate material in it
but a whole fucking lot of degenerate posters
https://archive.is/Mlb5r

TL:DR
i think we gotta do something to get the regular bernds off of that site
im becoming more certain that they are in harms way on kohl
at the very least is clear the mods dont give two fucks about them nor /int/

 >>/21394/
> im worn out from this shit tbh. i feel like ive been shouting underwater for well over 48 hours now. ill give yall a readthrough tonight and dive back in tomorrow.
> i need a fucking break
You do that, get a rest and continue if you wish. From our side we are open to discuss the topic and ofc you can post your thoughts here.
I believe most Bernds have no exact idea about US and his own country's laws they should read up stuff, and be warned about personal consequences too, the average person especially in his late teens, early twenties is clueless despite they usually think themselves the fountain of wisdom and knowledge. They also should know about other options (not just us, but krautchan.co and the other /int/s). I believe most of them won't go anywhere, convenience > security, they don't care. Some will not like to see the grey area content day-to-day, they might just hide it in dollchan or they might be willing to move.
You can't do much, basically can tell them politely about the concern and their options. Don't screetch at them that will alienate you, and will be labeled as tinfoil hat.
I also believe this thread will be mentioned.

As I said I won't be around for a few days. See you then.

 >>/21358/
> I'm for freedom of speech and opinion but this isn't even fall into either category.
agreed
this is pedos using a safespace for them at the expense of naive bernds safety

 >>/21360/
> I don't care about any (really) content at all, but I imagine that there are people who care much more.
my argument here is that bernds who arent prepared to view the content are being forced to endure it and because the non-pedos do not take appropriate precautions around such stuff as they dont expect it, it feels strangely like these bernds are being used to hide the pedos traffic/exchanges. separating the two communities fixes that, as well as makes moderation easier as its in one place and it also impedes no ones ability to post whatever they want so i dont know why thats not even a possibility. fug, even allowing posts to be spoilered would solve the problem of bernd ending up with this shit in his cache.

my emotional argument which ive tried to leave outta this is that their content propagates the abuse of children. even many of the most innocuous of child model agencies is rife with molesters. this is a fact. and certainly some of them are used as ads for child trafficking freaks

 >>/21361/
> Those mods are just gonna get themselves fucked over the moment anyone reports the site
given the lax laws of such content in liechtenstein, you may be wrong. in terms of the site itself, they do actually remove explicit content and thats where being reported could be bad for them. the exception is if some bernd gets fucked and this stuff is found in his computer. that would bring a lot of bad noise onto the site as well as the host.
> Even if it isn't illegal most hosts won't agree to host that kind of content
true, but im also not trying to destroy their site. if anything, i want to see its continued existence. i know better than to think that this pedo problem will get any better, especially after its clear that they have the mods graces. people complain about cuckchanners moving in swarms, but wew, pedos are way worse.

 >>/21362/
> how can we report the site?
at this point, i dont think you can, but like i said, im not out to destroy the place. im out to make it so it doesnt get reported in the first place.
> keeping the 'normies' away as far as I see bring literal nazi pedophiles though, it's literally pick your death if the argument is true at all.
yeah normalfags dont go to kc. anyone still piling in there is just an old kc poster who just found the place. maybe some are from the 4channel fork, but i doubt theres many. and as for
> literal nazi pedophiles
this unfortunately seems to be the hill they wanna die on really makes ya think
and here i was thinking that nazis executed degenerates. my mistake i guess

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 >>/21363/
> I'm sure they'll turn on each other at some point.
at this point you are right
nothing has changed, so its simply a matter of time

 >>/21365/
> There are several KC derivatives and /int/ boards now those who leave can pick another or make their own it's their business.
true, i was just hoping to see that we dont have to go through yet another exodus. but its bound to happen once the pedospammers increase in numbers and activity


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 >>/21385/
> most decent posters should be able to learn all that information simply by browsing the board.
lel its funny because this is the same argument that the kohl mods are giving as to why they wont announce site policy picrel. while you are right that good posters will lurk and feel a place out, unfortunately its not the good posters that cause a need for such rules and guidelines. its the shit ones. the ones who dont lurk need to be told what to do/not do and its this transparancy that i think is necessary for a healthy mod/user relationship as well as a good board. doesnt even have to be "rules", just guidelines. and even those users who dont lurk should be forced to see what is expected of a place imo

 >>/21387/
> You can't codify everything because humans are irrational beings, and using rules too literally often doesn't work - people will find a way to avoid rules by using some tricks and then comply loudly about moderator's oppression or prejudice
good point tbh. too many rules and the sites ded
id still argue that if there are to be any guidelines made at all, they should be clearly laid out for new arrivals, lest it turn into a b&hammer frenzy where no one knows why they got whacked

 >>/21395/
> You can't do much, basically can tell them politely about the concern and their options. Don't screetch at them that will alienate you, and will be labeled as tinfoil hat
yeah i finally got a response from them, and the ball is in their court as to what to do next srsly doubt theyre gonna do shit. im done with it, and will use kohl from time to time for as long as the pedos allow possible. once that content becomes daily, then im out. as is now theres still regular bernds there so we will see how this plays out. problem is if the mods do nothing, this problem will pop up again and again until they address it which they probably wont
> I also believe this thread will be mentioned.
idgaf
i havent said anything here that i disagree with, and i also figure if they do try to fuck with me, i have a pretty strong alibi as to why im obviously not a pedo or a fed or anything sinister, and only wish the best for my fellow bernd

I think noone can be saved from himself. Kohl admins decided to run their site as they do, noone can force them do otherwise. Bernds on Kohl chose to post on Kohl, and choose to do so continuously, noone can force to do it otherwise.
What you can do is to make sometimes a thread and raise awareness, list your arguments, present solutions, and hope maybe the message will go through the thick skull of Bernds. It's a legit discussion and if you don't do it obnoxiously - like grappa threads or Bogdán - they won't have reason to ban you.



 >>/21416/

Hungarians are still gypsies and I did literally nothing wrong. I shouldn't have to pay for you or that pshek's refusal to acknowledge academic consensus on the Daco-Roman continuity theory. PS Transylvania belongs to Romania.




You've mentioned creating a containment board for pedo spam. This benefits Bernd, but it could be really harmful for the moderation down the line. Just think of what would happen if the site itself were brought under investigation: how could the mods argue their innocence to a court if they themselves set up a specifically pedo board?
They won't do that, though. It seems the mods will just uphold their current policy until the site is irreversibly changed.


















 >>/23786/
1.We lack enough evidence to publish anything. 
2.That's irrelevant to us or at least to me. I only want to make the most kc tier articles I can. If this results in the site dying or the moderation team being reformed it's irrelevant to me.




























 >>/29265/
That will depend on the BO there. It doesn't really cross the "suggestive" part of the 2nd global rule. And on /b/ many thing could be let posted where elsewhere they might be clear bannable offense.
I'm not fond of those posts (my opinion can be read in this thread above) I might put forward this for a discussion with the admins.

 >>/29267/ 
It's just one guy who's been doing this since the migration ended. Now he's posting worse content. He needs to go ASAP because I know how subhumans like him operate. Seen it happen before.

It's best to just nip a problem at it's bud.


 >>/29268/
 >>/29272/
BO there is trusted by the admins (after all it's /b/, one of the default boards on most chans, and the place where everything can fit, kinda important place, even if here it doesn't get the most traffic), so his opinion is kind of a "standard".
I'm kinda torn, but the kasha isn't eaten that hot, we'll see where the thing will lead.

 >>/29272/
I know and understand your problem with /pol/, and if you read a little on this one or get into a conversation with them these guy's admit being a legit National Socialists. I can't read it in a way that it sounds ironic.
On the other hand the BO and the volunteer really keep the board clean, that Oslo guy if he was that, we won't ever know if that thing was a repost, unless Manshaus explicitly admit he did it happened to post in a time which proved to be "blindspot" on that day. They think every such posts is a red flag and the product of the FBI or the puppets of the Global Jewish Conspiracy.





 >>/29276/
Thanks for helping out on the site Hungary ball. Much appreciated from everyone here.
Okay, so after reporting /b/ it looks like they moved on to the /4/ board, and showed their true colors.
Someone (I think you) posted about that board. I think since the announcement of the BO position becoming available, some bad actors swarmed towards this site. Sites like these are heavily monitored so I am very suspicious about everything recently. 

It happened too quick to be a coincidence since we have been having schizo threads nonstop over the last few days. 


Also, look out for the /ligamx/ board since they might also have some shady content

 >>/29348/
Ok.
I understand you wish to help but please refrain from replying to those whom you think violating the rules or pushing their limit, or posting something they shouldn't according to your judgement.
You can help the site with reporting content with the report form, or on /operate/ which is read by several people who has moderation rights. You can also mediating between the staff and the userbase ofc, by warning people who posted content violating the rules, but don't engage in debates with them it's not the question of persuading they are doing it wrong, but telling them factually they're doing it wrong and informing them about the rules which applies to everyone here.
You can also help informing fellow users about the technical peculiarities of the site if they don't know how things work, or telling them to seek answers on /operate/ or read help and faq.

One more thing: I (and I believe all the Bernds) wish this thread to remain related to the original topic(s Kohl, posts on Kohl and Kohlzine), the issues of the site belong to /operate/ and not /kc/.
Thank you.




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There is a very simple 3 step solution that bernd can follow in order not to deal with the /kohl/ anymore. Really simple to follow

Step 1 - Don't go to kohl, ever
Step 2 - have a site blocker set up so you can't access the site anymore. Because you know you will soon. Don't lie, you still go there and you know it :)
Step 3 - Visit end/kc/, Ernstchan, Yilutta or any other chan with likeminded bernds instead

Problems weren't but srs avoid that site like the plague









 >>/36006/
> I honestly don't understand berndgroup's format. Where's the catalogue?

Yeah it's all over the place. I think the site owner is just trying out a bunch of new stuff. Although it looks cool, it's not so practical in the long run(web design wise).

 >>/36161/
Maybe yeah, he is experimenting what works and what isn't. He probably will eliminate the bugs (or not). My problem is, that he might have an fast computer where he looks at his site and tests, and he finds it ok, while us (like me) on a potato 10 yo. config will struggle to load anything. This shit is all over the internet fugging google does this, they run so many crap sometimes it hangs my browser, and they think it's good practice how they do it.

So there was another thread on kohl about the pedo stuff as mods deleted and banned a serb for making a thread calling out the shit.
There are many that don't care and are happy with their shithole but other Bernds are not.
We should maybe get them out of there in some way.

 >>/36464/
Bernd knows about Endchan. Well, at least those who aren't 4chan based crossposters. They can decide for themselves.
Today we'll have another End Movie Corner, and I'll make a thread for that on Kohl, so that's also a kind of a shilling for Endchan.

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 >>/36464/
 >>/36464/
One of the mods is complicit with "that type" of content. You will never get anything out of arguing in that Stasi-owned website. and I mentioned the "unmentionable" banners featured on that site here a few months ago here, if you guys remember. Why even have that to begin with?

It's a rigged game that you shouldn't try to win, because you never will. Sorry bernds

> We should maybe get them out of there in some way.
If you do, get that one Dutch bernd that makes daily trading threads there. kc trading/Bernds of Wall Street threads, I believe. He'd be really good to have around

 >>/36467/
> Bernd knows about Endchan. Well, at least those who aren't 4chan based crossposters. They can decide for themselves.

You can lead a horse to a river of water, but you can't make him drink it. It's up to them to decide what they choose to do at this point.


 >>/36464/
 >>/36478/
> Why was antipedo thread deleted?  Dont tell me that you take death threats seriously when it arranges you.
> The poster who also posted this thread was warned because of his spam in a lot of threads while his spam posts were deleted. He ignored the warning and spammed even more, so he was banned and all of his posts were deleted. Afterwards he was evading his ban, so now his range is banned for three days.
https://kohlchan.net/kohl/res/23263.html




 >>/38687/
> dead 2 month year old thread


> Why?

I wrote everything above. Because nothing changed, OP lost, blah blah blah, users are getting paranoid and quitting the place, many reasons. 
Well, something changed. I'm won't go there anymore.
> an underage child

To bait ofc. She used to be popular there.



 >>/39445/
I meant in terms of /kc/ sister sites over other chans online. I like Ernst and bernd.group since the threads on there are much easier to get into than anywhere else. I dunno which has the more active userbase though.














 >>/39830/
Simple: /kc/, Ernst, and KCrip create a union of bernds as a website. We try and attract old bernds back, our sites grow in users, overshadows K*hlzine, and they'll cry and sob once the journalists expose them and it crumbles away.

 >>/39879/
I don't think we need to do anything in the first place. They post their rag in their designated thread, and their Bernds are aware that alternatives exist. 
Eventually they'll get fed up with the site, move somewhere else and probably rebrand themselves. If they don't move and embrace their new warped culture, then they're lost causes.

Welp, buming this old thread because I browsed kohl in early morning today it was pedos doing their things fullspeed, even worse than before. I just remembered now why I dont browse that shithole. Pedo infestation is unbearable.


 >>/43864/
k*hl has never been good though


 >>/43865/
I feel bad for other bernds there. The best alternative would be to make them all move here or to other locations outside of k*hl.


I believe we all need to accept the fact that kc is dead forever. We can never revive or relive what happened in the past. We should move on to greener pastures like this board or others.

It seems they cleaned /int/ from the pedo threads.

 >>/43869/
Oldschool Bernds now about other places, they have a choice.
I'm not comfortable going there and directly shill Endchan (the Kohl staff seems ok, the site is well functioning, with abundant features, custom tailored so it isn't just another run-off-the-mill Lynxchan), the movie nights, and the occasional invites to individual posters are just enough for me.






I'm glad I stopped browsing nukc years ago. It's inception only brought in a lineup of pedis and an administrative defence banning those advocating against these degenerates. 
What needs to be done is to remove kohlchan for good so the problem dissipates and we're left with a group that can be reformed through strong group moulding.


 >>/43988/
Its pretty ded for the same reasons 99 percent of the chans opened in the last couple years are dead in that its just a general idea with no built in community or targeted community just a chan for the sake of being a chan
Its just another ded chan with no community and no direction which is exactly what the internet needs and everyone should open a chan so the internet becomes a graveyard of 1000s of chans with a hundred or so posts a piece
Good luck slovborg your ded kohlchan clone is definitely gonna be the one that ignites the alt chan science with your innovative new features like board creation
Hopefully you act really snarky on your boards with an admin tag never seen that before on alt chan
Thanks for this link I'll add it to the 200 or so ded sites I check regularly cause I have no real life and occasionally no has posted on sp kc in a few minutes

sorry, but I couldn't help myself and had to post the thing.


 >>/44059/
it's a shitposting pasta whenever some shady chan advertises itself. there are tons of small chans that keep emerging and dying. these need at least a small set of regular posters, like sportschan or end/kc/. these are a nice alternative to the highspeed shitposting at 4kanker.


 >>/44061/
Patch/Patchouli, a grifting jew who sets up multiple boards, spams them with inane bot replies and deletes the board after logging IPs and any data he can to sell. 
Commonly associated with Freech, and other .xyz domains.


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 >>/21339/
Thought I should bump this thread up again. Lots of bernds are leaving kohl right now for the same reasons as before. We are having a discussion over it on bernd.group now. INFA 100% it is not pretty. 

Actually, it's pretty much vomit inducing at this point

 >>/44533/
It's not easy matter. From what I saw, the literally illegal content is removed. The problem is nowadays the not literally illegal content can cause trouble for those who visit the site but not participate and of that. And this is what the mod team doesn't realize. But I can't really say anything that wasn't said before.






 >>/44567/
 >>/44568/
I saw him there mentioning the Dost. I think Josh was right when he put it this way:
> Due to the context of this website, any pictures of children - including those which are otherwise decent and legal - inherently fail the Dost standard and will not be permitted
But there's also other considerations, where this line fails, because then what about memes like success kid or that fleeing yellow raincoat girl? Or reaction images? What about screenshots of movie with children on it? There could be many other instances when such rule is hard to follow.
And yet, just a comment could turn anything actually innocent to a rule 34 situation.
It's a catch 22.
Best would be not allowing dumps, and beyond that case by case examination, but there's a limit one can do voluntarily, and there are people out there who will test your perseverance just for the fun of it.
It's not easy to moderate chans. Their strong suit the relative privacy and anonymity they provide to the users, but that makes them vulnerable too.
I wonder how it goes at normie social media like Facebook. Chief difference ofc, those guys got payed, while these chans are run by the love of those who create and maintain them (maybe not 4chan).

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 >>/44543/
tbh I dunno what to do at this point with that site. I think it'd be best to just go and stay in EC, berndgroup or here at this point. I don't think we can salvage that website due to all the negative rep it has gotten from it's inception until here.  

> It's not easy to moderate chans
> Chief difference ofc, those guys got payed

I'm just seeing that it takes a whole lotta effort to just run a small lil website. You'd need a decent chunk of volunteers from different timezones and hours just to keep it all up

 >>/44613/
> it takes a whole lotta effort to just run a small lil website.
It does. It would be good to rely on a strong web of BOs but the overwhelming majority of the boards doesn't have BOs, or had to be taken over by the staff at some point. Sometimes BOs are hostile and malignant, being attackers themselves... Such cases.

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When the bernd.group admin was confronted about leaving CGI CP up for 17 hours, he tried to censor the incident like it never happened.
I don't know what to think about this. I don't think BG has a future if instead of addressing actual problems with the site, everything is swiped under the rug.
I'll stay here for now.


 >>/44644/
 >>/44645/
If there's public logs, it can't be swept under a rug.
He needs to have a life beside running the site, so I would be lenient judging him.
He also needs a volunteer, basically someone with one right: to delete stuff from the site, maybe issuing bans. Since there are logs, it can be followed if the vol abuses his power, and except for deletion, bans can be lifted if necessary. But the userbase needs more patience.
I'm encouraging you guys to try and support him, what he is doing alone, isn't easy. Also try and keep a civil conversation.
Ofc, feel free to hang out here.



 >>/44644/
https://bernd.group/o/89014#118634
nobody was censoring anything, you posted screenshot of pedopost and it was deleted solely for that reason, yeah i know you blacked out most of the picture but nevertheless we dont want even it even partially there.



 >>/44664/
Yeah, can't F5 all day a site. Although it's a nice thing to catch shit right away, it should be enough to check it every couple of hours or so.

 >>/44663/
Can posts be reported? That also could help to clean quicker if the userbase active enough to pinpoint what to delete. Less need to runnin around the boards.




I used to simply hide pedo threads and didn't exactly fear anything since laws regarding that aren't US tier here, but when the suggestion of them getting their own board was being floated around (which seemed very reasonable), the way it was ignored alarmed me. From that moment on I started paying attention to who were the ones making the majority of posts in those threads and there was very obviously a pattern, which was particularly unexpected given it was from places like the US, and bernds from there would have more reasons to be wary of posting like that than those from other countries. 
With that said, although I've recently become more worried about that, it's the number of fags that has really driven me from kc. I have more tolerance with pedos (as long as they don't post nudes) because they're outcasts and all of that, but faggotry is already being shoved in our faces all over the place, I'm not gonna stand that on kc as well. Yeah, there were fags on kc in the past, but I didn't see naked men every time I opened the catalog (more often than I see pedos, even, since at least they concentrate in one or two threads at a time).




 >>/44715/
kohl had simply become a habit for me, but I've been dropping it due to the faggotry. The reason I still turn to imageboards to begin with is that a)you can't really talk about certain things with "regular people" and b)even if it's not a controversial topic, most people are simply incapable of having a serious discussion. I don't expect everyone to have the same interests as me and thus have more or less the same background in terms of what we consider a given and so forth, but when it's obvious that the person in question simply isn't capable of weighting different arguments, as if there's a part of their brain misssing... that's very disappointing. And that has been becoming more common in kohl, ON TOP of shit like the faggotry. This kind of situation has become way more common: you bring up a certain subject or issue and the poster in question doesn't even consider spending 2 minutes searching for the appropriate terms, it's like I'm dealing with some zoomers who expect literally everything to be handed to them. To better illustrate it: not long ago I made a thread asking for tips on how to avoid silverfish, since I had spotted a few of them in my book collection. Before making the thread I looked up possible solutions and resorted to the thread itself simply to ask for opinions on whether some solutions I found worked and if they knew of any alternatives. I  did my part, so to speak. Most "bernds" there seem uncapable of doing that, to the point it feels as if they have a mechanism in their brain which keeps them from having the slightest degree of autonomy, it's freightening.
Also, the other day I was horny and said a particular girl was hot and asked who she was, to which someone linked me a /tv/ thread from vierkanal. Once there, I decide to open the catalog and check out what kind of threads are being made, and to my surprise many of them were EXACT copies of threads in the kohl catalog, down to the wording and files used. I've also seen many prove there are threads copy pasted from /pol/. No wonder kohl is such shit when it's basically a kanker refuge.

 >>/44863/
4/tv threads were a thing on the late Krautchan too, copypasted straight. Not sure about pol but I can imagine those were too.
Against silverfish, settle centipedes in your home...
Regarding the posters, Kohl/int has about 1000 posters daily (based on a quick summing the daily number of the poster map, I dunno if they keep stats somewhere). What I observed when KC main died, and Kohl was offline a couple of times since then, only some dozen posters who move to other chans, like here or 8chan/8kun. Where did all the others disappear then? Yeah.
In itself being a 4chan poster isn't that bad, most if not all of us started there. But many can't differentiate between boards and chans, and they just do the same what they done on 4.
But I also have to add, only a couple of bored idiot with too much time in their hands is enough to shit up a place, only a couple of guys enough to copypaste threads not on one but on many boards.

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 >>/44863/
 >>/44867/

> The reason I still turn to imageboards to begin with is that a)you can't really talk about certain things with "regular people" 

Bernds are high IQ and only want to be with other bernds. Like attracts like you see. 

> Once there, I decide to open the catalog and check out what kind of threads are being made, and to my surprise many of them were EXACT copies of threads in the kohl catalog, down to the wording and files used. I've also seen many prove there are threads copy pasted from /pol/. No wonder kohl is such shit when it's basically a kanker refuge.
> But I also have to add, only a couple of bored idiot with too much time in their hands is enough to shit up a place, only a couple of guys enough to copypaste threads not on one but on many boards.

spoopy

Maybe keins or someone else wants every imageboard to be just liek 4ch. Just nothing but normie keinshit that has no intellectual stimuli. Maybe they want all bernds to be dumb. Who knows?


 >>/44085/
> Thanks. Not unknown phenomenon, exactly that crossed my mind.

He changes IP a lot, but he always tends to use the same ones. You can go on this website's /b/ board and see him there posting empty CP filled botnets every so often.

Another thing he enjoys doing where he goes: spamming kohl tier content and blaming the board/site owner for it. He's the one who did this btw  >>/44644/

 >>/44663/
> nobody was censoring anything, you posted screenshot of pedopost and it was deleted solely for that reason, yeah i know you blacked out most of the picture but nevertheless we dont want even it even partially there.

You're actually responding to the owner of Moonchan/spacechan mod bernd. A.K.A: the guy who spammed bernd.group a few years ago and the guy who made that cp post in the first place. I know he said that he quit, but that was a lie. He's still active on IBs. 


He will never respond  back for obvious reasons. Guilty parties never confess to things unless it slips out



 >>/45001/
> You gotta love overly verbose delusional schizos.

you talking about yourself?

 >>/45000/
> All imageboards are ran by trannies and pedos who want to log ips and seed everyone with cp.

only the really shitty ones and the ones that are dead with 0 community. Majority are still good to browse and use







 >>/45136/
That conspiracy theory is stupid on so many levels. Nobody gets doxed for creating shitty TikTok threads. We were investigating a file upload bug and chose to reupload random images from a Russian IWO to a random thread on /m/. That's why it was posted two times in a row with different signatures. You can still find the first image on https://kohlchan.net/test/res/7.html#1748. It turned out that /test/ had a file limit of 1 per post and /m/ allowed more files to be uploaded at once. Therefore it wasn't a bug at all, only a board misconfiguration. I think we tried to prepare a sticky on /test/ and it was moved to /int/ shortly afterwards.

That's all there is to say about this tbh. I rarely visit IBs other than Kohlchan, so if there are any more conspiracy theories to be addressed, send them to https://kohlchan.net/kohl/ or [email protected].








 >>/45166/
SlovBerg pls

 >>/45167/
> Nah. That guy is the cp spammer and he hates this thread and wants to lock it down by making it a nuisance.

He must be pretty dumb to keep stirring caca here since we can kinda figure out who he is from all of his posts here. But I guess that's the type of low-IQ person that would spam a slow IB in the first place


 >>/45321/
The obsession has to inevitably end with better content (as is already present in the catalog) and less about attracting noisy detractors, because they'll inevitably bend to a stronger master once one appears, but since imageboards are dynamic, there's no real solution unless its a tireless propaganda game.

 >>/45356/
> but since imageboards are dynamic, there's no real solution unless its a tireless propaganda game.

This tbh

> as to inevitably end with better content (as is already present in the catalog)

I'm working on it fam. Lotta ebin threads and posts coming from me soon....When I have the time




Kohlchan is basically the end result of all the long-term trends that were slowing killing old KC - pedos, low effort shitposting, endless discussions about sex and relationships, a million variations of the same flavor of the month news thread. 

There was no golden age of serious discussions, but old KC did have the best sense of community of any imageboard ever, until about 2015. I even met my now ex-wife at a Bernd meetup in my city. 

It makes me sad that we'll never have that back, but I guess the age of imageboards is over now anyway.

 >>/45793/
Bernd.group goes ok. Although threads tend to be short lived - in a sense that not many gets updated with discussion, and just gets bumped back and gets forgotten.
To be honest /kc/ would go ok, if the few lurkers and those who know about this place would make a couple of posts per week.

> But the pdeos are too much
Yeah. And they flood tetten threads too. Makes lurking unbearable.

 >>/45813/
> There was no golden age of serious discussions
I concur. It's a meme. But there were always people around who could discuss stuff seriously.
> ex-wife
Fugging Bernadettes.
> age of imageboards is over now anyway.
I don't think so. Now that denial of privacy and anonymity is pressing more and more, such places are needed where people can freely express themselves while privacy and anonymity are protecting them. IB's are a way.
Several problems ofc.
Like the vast majority of people only uses just a couple of major websites, have no idea about IB's, or even the concept of privacy and anonymity. Also they tend to do everything for social status and credit.
The privacy and anonymity of those who run imageboards have to be solved, they also have to be protected. Or the other way around make celebrities out of them so the fame protects them from bs. To some extent. And that also kinda means they themselves are sellable.
Uh... at least one thing I wanted in this line, but I lost my train of thought.
Anyway, financing also needs to be solved, and I think other people needs to be involved, liek lawyers and shit.

Im not a kohlchan goer so I dont know what really is going on there but I see everyone of you mentions pedos as the problem. How come other places like here for example doesnt have this problem? Can other bernds learn something from this?

 >>/45820/
It's difference of view on what is illegal.
On Kohl what's not literally illegal without the context the images paired with, they leave it up. So no actual cp can be found.
But they leave up images what are legal and normal in "normal" circumstances, just pics you could find via google if you'd type "kids". What they don't calculate with that imageboards aren't "normal" places and just about anything can turn into sexual content. If a law enforcement officer would open up Kohl and would see a hueg ass thread filled with kids up to the brim, the first thing would he think: "wow, such a convenient place to hunt sexual predators".
This is how Josh worded the issue in 9chan's ToS:
>  1. Child pornography.
>  Do not post child pornography (18 U.S. Code § 2251). Due to the context of this website, any pictures of children - including those which are otherwise decent and legal - inherently fail the Dost standard and will not be permitted (United States v. Dost).
Ofc it was argued by kiddie posters if this Dost test thing should be considered serious or not.

Anyway, quite a few chans take it seriously, us here too, and are willing to enforce such rules that prohibits posting that content.
In a way places like Kohl, or various chans of Pachouli are convenient "containment" boards for this.
Those posters could spam us all day, a couple did too some time ago, but maybe it got boring to them, and they are fine posting at their usual places.

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 >>/45820/
 >>/45829/
So we do have a problem, a bit different, and these days not that prominent.
There are other problems too.
For example what to delete really? Kids can be gud reaction images (just think of Success Kid), are they illegal? Or screenshots from regular tv-shows/movies? Am I gonna delete screenshots of whatever family tv-show broadcasted on sunday mornings when they are spammed all day? It could happen.
Also some headache is caused by nude images of obviously not pre-pubescent grills, just can't tell if they are passed their 18th birthday, or just couple of days before that while irl they legally have sex for a couple of years now.

 >>/45830/
I dunno fam. I just stay in chans were one feels comfortable. If you ever have to go to kohl (eww) again, just hide any "bad" thread you see. 

If your in the catalog, you can hide any thread by clicking it while pressing the shift key. Mayb that can help a lil bit










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 >>/46402/
> Picture didn't get posted well

ebin

On a more positive note, at least we have a bunch of other alt kc boards that came from it. This board along with bernd.group also shows up if you search for KC. So it's kinda alive.

There's also that one cytube channel that's hosted by old KC bernds. I just can't remember where I saved that url ffs

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Not to stir stuff up or caca post. but it looks like there's another person asking for mod status again in bernd.group. The last time it happened it was done by an awful kein infiltrator. Who was very angry all the time. Like this guy for example  >>/44644/

Add to that and now we're getting a new Czech poster that sounds like a carbon copy of this person  >>/44644/

 >>/44663/
My opinion for berndgroup: don't make anybody into a mod that you wouldn't personally trust. Especially after board spam and angry posts keep popping up

 >>/45167/
> Nah. That guy is the cp spammer and he hates this thread and wants to lock it down by making it a nuisance. It is a win-win situation for him.

He's still in berndgroup. He NEVER FUCKING LEAVES. He's on imageboards every single day I think

 >>/46517/
> don't make anybody into a mod that you wouldn't personally trust. 
It is very hard to build up trust in anonymous people. And "hiring" mods isn't an easy question, how to do it. In fact moderation itself isn't an easy question.
When testing new mod, open logs can help and maybe make him post screenshot every deletion too. That way everyone can be sure he doesn't make trouble, plus users can't claim either that he is overzealous or censors opinions.
One additional solution would be to recruiting BOs, and depending how they do appointing globals from them. Problem is, not many people volunteer to be mods.




 >>/48576/
> has no problem posting info of targets.
They do?
How about not picking internet fights, and just leave the place. Bernd has to control his autism, because the other side also has same level of autism and they aren't like Bernd's mom who caves in when Bernd throws a hissy fit. And one can never know what the other side is capable of. Liek right now, maybe me telling it frankly won't welcomed well, but I'm telling this with all the good intentions possible.
Anyway:
 - don't make yourself a target;
 - learn to leave stuff behind;
 - learn to take things (especially online things) more easily.
Srsly. One can spare a world of hurt.







 >>/48596/
I don't like ausneets either but I only post on this board and I don't think I ever see them here, there is only one Australian here usually and that's me(my flag has issues). They don't spill over into this board at all.






There has been a continuous series of threads on kohlchan to seriously and not so seriously discuss the war on Ukraine which has caused unspeakable degrees of butthurt to the local moderation. They've been handing out unmerited months long bans and deleting entire post histories of many a good Bernd there.

 >>/48940/
I noticed they have a pinned thread for Ukraine conflict.
> unspeakable degrees of butthurt to the local moderation. They've been handing out unmerited months long bans and deleting entire post histories of many a good Bernd there.
Sad if true.

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 >>/48942/
They sadly succumbed to a common paranoia. The threads in question have been incredible. There were many insightful and sobering first hand accounts of the situation shared by both Ukrainian and Russian Bernds. There was also much merriment and analysis from all perspectives, plus even some hilarious predictions that predictably were horribly erroneous. Though, at its worst the threads could and often were focused on a perpetual argument over the nonsensical rhetoric of the day.

 >>/48713/
a poster on ernst says helmut rangebanned a whole German state lol. the russian mod, I guess it's him, banned to many users, so now the Ukraine thread is useless for getting updates besides the shitflinging. I mean there are alternative krautchan boards, but they need users, posts and content, so Bernd F5 those regularly.











It's a shame it has gone to this, because some decent posters exist on Kohl and I like some of the threads.

However, it frustrates me that the staff are pedo enablers (or possibly worse) and have allowed the "threads" to go on.

I try to hide any and all nonce threads if I spot them, but it gets redundant after a while.






Mods finally cleaned up the pedo spam, which greatly improved the board for a few days but caused an enormous amount of pedo butthurt, as obviously "free speech" entitles them to post nonce shit wherever they want.
Anyway, they are now using an extension to attach CP to other files.

thumbnail of pedos lacing files with CP.png
thumbnail of pedos lacing files with CP.png
pedos... png
(5.7 MB, 1784x10208)
Sorry, I forgot to attach the screenshot of the thread.
Anyway, I guess this is just a warning to anyone not to download anything from there. I guess they could have been using other tools to do this before but if so it wasn't in an obviously organised way like this.

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That Australian Bernd sees it clearly.
Pedos = terrorists. Then they try to take the moral high ground with referring to freedom of speech, and when they get it, they make everything cp, and they inject every thread with their pedo content.
Also your 5.7MB screenshot is highly suspicious. I took screenshots of longer threads with lower filesize, in png.



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