/ratanon/ - Rationalists Anonymous

> agenty duck
> slave collar

> wants to modify automatic reactions
> into bdsm
> wears a collar
> not an shock collar

 >>/5621/
Don't give them ideas.

 >>/5563/
I'll never be able to fuck either of them, but at least the one on the right will tell me that she loves me.

 >>/5564/
But anon, you're replacing the substance with the symbol

 >>/5565/
Not the guy you're talking to, but I prefer to think of it as replacing a shitty evolutionary compromise with delicious distilled superstimulus.

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 >>/5566/

 >>/5596/
>  >None
Where are these posts from? They seem familiar.

 >>/5507/
Some utilitarians would be on board with that. Some utilitarians think that doesn't maximize utility (e.g. preference utilitarians) or even happiness (e.g. certain objections about unique brain states).
There exist EA people who would be on board with that. I don't know how many. I would think people who think tiling the universe with hedonium is good wouldn't object to wireheading either.
There also exist EA people who aren't utilitarians, even though the overall sensibilities of EA are pretty utilitarian. I don't know how many.
Most EA has much more mundane goals. Preventing malaria or improving nutritional intake of poor rural laborers using low-cost interventions is good whether you subscribe to preference utilitarianism or negative utilitarianism or hedonic utilitarianism.

 >>/5503/
Tyrone wouldn't stoop down to fucking the sort of girl who goes poly.

 >>/5504/
> Obeying them or getting rid of them is always instrumental, never a terminal goal.
Why not? Did the Terminal Goal Fairy come down and bless your dear monkey brain with some sort of exogenous goals?

 >>/5506/
> The reason polyamory is considered good by a lot of rationalists isn't that it suppresses obsolete primate programming, it's that it (presumably) makes the people involved happier.
So it's not good because it suppresses the obsolete primate desire to pair bond, sure, but it is good because it achieves the primate desire to experience happiness. Really makes me think. And what I'm thinking is that you haven't thought this through all the way. You never answered the other anon's question, "What are some terminal goals that are not primate heuristics?"

 >>/5509/
Tyrone will copulate with whomever he damn well pleases.

 >>/5510/
> Why not? Did the Terminal Goal Fairy come down and bless your dear monkey brain with some sort of exogenous goals?
In explicit justifications rationalists give, like the OP seems to be criticizing, it's an instrumental goal. In the first case it's not "this is primate programming so you should get rid of it" but "this is primate programming so it's okay to get rid of it to achieve X".
> You never answered the other anon's question, "What are some terminal goals that are not primate heuristics?"
That's what the first paragraph was about. Explicitly stated terminal goals are not always primate heuristics. Direct causes are primate heuristics, but talking in terms of those is usually not useful.

EA or any other form of altruism in general is a consequence of idiocy.

 >>/5542/
> tfw no Chinese gf with a cuck dad who lets her mom run off back to China and bang Changs in clubs, leaving me as my gf's most respected male figure

> 13207

I'm serious. No other society is as cucked as China which allows everyone from all over the world to fuck their women for lulz and robs their citizens to aid Africa….

What you said does not even happen for almost all Chinese males are basically cucked eunuchs no women anywhere on this planet including in Africa want to fuck..Who like servile cucks?

 >>/5544/
but anon, I'm describing my real life ex-gf

 >>/5544/
Asian males have godly trap potential.

 >>/5546/

Yes as a consequence of low testosterone and a very slow life history. Under the same conditions..say America, most agricultural Mongoloids tend to have verrrrrrrry long lives.

 >>/5515/
He elaborates a bit in this interview: https://babe.net/2018/05/17/justin-murphy-hot-take-abortion-57232

> What do you think about that, Katie?

If only this faggot stopped doing shitty livestreams and actually did podcasts again.

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 >>/5514/
Who's right?

 >>/5515/
It was a NyxLand reference.

 >>/5518/
Those don't seem contradictory

he looks how hotwheels sounds now. Turtleneck and all. The equilibrium between life... between death. I'm sure he has a skull on his desk maybe an hourglass.

If you think that lush verdant tangles of forest are more beautiful than clone-stamped industrial expanses stretching beyond the horizon then your bloodline is weak and will not survive the winter. ""People"" who believe in innate human dignity or anything that could be described as "inner light" are the sociological equivalent to a biter colony and should be dealt with in a similar manner (read: flamethrowers). 

Minimizing pollution is ultimately crueller to the biters than maximising it. Evolutionary failures wallowing complacently in the dirt - can you imagine anything more pathetic?  Let them strive for greatness! Allowing the weak to flourish is a gross betrayal of the sacred principles that underlie creation, and will not go unpunished. Encourage an arms race, however, and all will benefit in time.

 >>/5496/
Arms races are the best argument for keeping your opponents alive. Maximum pollution from the start may not be the optimum for keeping biters long-term competitive.

Regardless, you are being too prescriptive for a Landian. Let some try to minimize pollution, some to maximize it, some to control or ignore however they please, and see who wins.

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 >>/5497/
As someone who wouldn't really mind the biosphere being reprocessed tomorrow, I don't like the zealous anti-""nature"" stance in some circles, it's coming from ressentiment, sunk cost fallacies and the like instead of cold practicality. They criminally ignore the value wild ecosystems have for research, reverse engineering, genestealing, keeping the apes fertile before they're unnecessary, etc.

 >>/5499/
Exactly. Nature as it is today is a valuable source of technological and aesthetic insight. Having a figurative fetish for destroying nature is not much better than having a literal murrlogic1-type fetish for destroying nature.

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 >>/5501/
> murrlogic1
Is this acceleration?
https://www.deviantart.com/murrlogic1

All of this has happened before
https://web.archive.org/web/20170805170022/http://8ch.net/ratanon/res/4372.html

Is it now a rationalist meme to consume kratom?

 >>/5485/
I want an answer to  >>/4518/.

> statistics-heavy whitepapers
As if an average Lesswrongian knew anything about statistics.

 >>/5486/
Clue 1: Your progeny actually gets genes from the female
Clue 2: Carnivores are correctly afraid of suicidal prey

Shit testing is amusing

 >>/5487/
> suicidal prey
When does this happen in nature?

 >>/5488/
Disease

 >>/5490/
Are diseases that make prey actively suicidal and not just weak and slow common enough for predators to have defenses against them?

 >>/5491/
The defenses are probably not specific, madness is simply scary and disgusting.

 >>/5395/
1. He did ask "which of the good chaos gods".

2. What the fuck kind of Slaanesh doesn't have any genitals? This is sickening.

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 >>/5394/
Hail the lord of Change.

> not Chaos Undivided

IFNI, Demon-Secretary-General of the Domain of Chaotic Meta-Excess

How Nurgle is good?

http://xynchroni.city/gema


122
big yud = 
  
 = ALAMUT
 = BRAZIL
 = CHAOTIC
 = DERRIDA
 = FUCCBOI
 = GHIAMAT
 = HERMES
 = INFIDEL
 = KENDALL
 = LIBERAL
 = LUDICS
 = MARDUK
 = MARKET
 = NAMIFY
 = POWER
 = SCOTCH
 = STARS
 = TAIWAN
 = TROLL
 = UNSAID
 = URUZ
 = VAYNO
 = VOYNA
 = WANING

 >>/242/
I missed the months-old post times at first and I thought Nick Land had been through here recently :^(

154=BASILISK 
154=DEMIURGE
154=THE WARP
154=SACRIFICE
154=NRXNFAM
154=FOR YOU

367=EVERY DAY IS A GOOD DAY
367=MATHEMATIZED GENOCIDE
367=TECHONOMIC SEES YOU
367=THE COSMIC METAMACHINE
367=BLOOD AND ELECTRICITY

BOWSETTE CONSUMES ALL = 414 =  EVERYTHING WILL BE FIRE = GOVERNED BY CONTAGIONS =  PROLIFERATION OF MEMES = THE WRITING ON THE WALL = MY NAME IS A KILLING WORD

 >>/3017/
> rationalism would actually give you superpowers
I dunno, being able to rationalise away being a cuckold ("polyamory") is pretty close to a superpower.