Is P2P multiplayer still a thing in PC gaming? I remember in the old days if you had your friend's IP you could connect to eachother and get some online games going between 2 or multiple people.
No gamespy or any server login.
Everyone uses steam now, but do any newer games have a P2P multiplayer option?
name some old games too if any come to mind that are good multiplayer games with a P2P option. It used to be a given that a multiplayer game would have this, but like couch coop, its becoming harder to find. I would like to gather a collection of games that i could still play mutltiplayer with friends, even if servers close.
While broadly correct the normal term used was direct connect or connect by IP, where it was offered separately often in RTS games. P2P particularly nowadays means more like how consoles handle multiplayer (i.e. badly). Technically you can connect by IP to dedicated servers as well avoiding the dev/publisher run master server list too since it's functionally just a public list people can stick their servers on.
As for whether it exists that, dedicated servers and even LAN options are on their way out now that AAA devs and publishers are adopting matchmaking systems and unlock systems because it's a lot harder for them to control XP gain, force microtransactions down people's throats and 'fight piracy' with a decentralised system like that. Even games like CS:GO that don't sell gameplay changing items have an incentive for this since the ranking system is used as a skinner-box of sorts to keep people interested by increasing their digital badgerank. You can partly blame console players for this since they actually actively dislike the classic PC system of community-run dedicated servers and much prefer just hitting search to play. After the shitshow that is this current generation most of the hardcore console community hopped to Steam and latterly similar walled gardens and ate this bullshit up.
> I would like to gather a collection of games that i could still play mutltiplayer with friends, even if servers close.
9/10 times if the game is older than ~5 years you can still connect manually to each other if the master server list is down. Just learn how to host a dedicated server (shit is really easy, usually the game has the files needed included), how to open ports/which ports need opened for the game in question (again really easy for anyone with an IQ above room temperature) and then pass your friends the IP. All they usually have to do then is open the console and type connect [IP]. In other cases community created alternative server lists are available usually along with a fanpatch. Part of the reason the current era of matchmaking is such cancer is they do becomes unavailable once the main servers are shut down but with old games it's generally a non-issue if you just want to play with friends. What dies, assuming no replacement community-run server, is the ability to play with random other users in a community.
Oh and the other thing to look into is VPNs for games where LAN is the only remaining option. There are easy-to-use solutions like Hamachi or similar that, in non-technical terms, put you in a virtual LAN so you can connect to each other in that section of the game. Usually it's more of a pain that just throwing up your own server and opening ports but it can be easier if you lack any actual knowledge. Endchan captcha a poop.
yea, i can set up a local server using a 3rd party application then have friends link to it, if the game has an option for it. which is the point of the thread.
I was looking for a nice list of newer/good games that let you do this.
I said list good old ones too if you want, but this is more about newer games.
I know you can do this in quake, starcraft, AoE, minecraft, and call of duty games like MW2 and earlier, but i wanted to get a more complete list with a focus on newer games being released with this feature.
Afraid I can't help you too much with newer games as I'm not playing many. If a game is steam exclusive but has a normal dedicated server system it's possible to use a steam emulator like SSE to play with pirated copies which means they're still playable if the main servers go down I know that much.
im aware of hamachi and i could also use logmein or any screenshare app to accomplish the same thing with local coop games. or use VMs to do this.
but that completely misses the point of the thread.
> Afraid I can't help you too much
did i accidentally post this on the amazon.com q&a section?
seriously though, if all you know is older games, just list some good ones that you know for a fact have easy P2P/directconnect/local server/lan setup. i plan on using the info to make an infograph and possibly a torrent of all the games.
there currently is no list and i think it would be a great way for anons to continue playing games online even if something happens.
> seriously though, if all you know is older games, just list some good ones that you know for a fact have easy P2P/directconnect/local server/lan setup. i plan on using the info to make an infograph and possibly a torrent of all the games.
Honestly almost any game before 2010 would fit but whatever. Have some tactical FPSes I know for a fact work because that's what I played most recently:
Early Rainbow Six games
ive been playing monster hunter freedon unite with some friends on PPSSPP using zero-tier to connect.
its kinda easy to use you just have to config some stuf and it runs in almost any computer.