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>>/59940/
B12 you get from a supplement pill, everything else you get from plants. I find it strange that in general vegan diets are talked about as needing "careful planning" to meet adequate micro- and macronutrients, while similar discourse is never aimed at omnivorous diets despite most omnivores failing to meet the recommended daily amounts of fibre, vitamin E and potassium among other micros.
> I understand this can be good for people going from full shitty red meat with process food to actually eating vegetables, but fish and poultry are basically unbeatable when it comes to protein
This has been studied quite frequently in recent years, and despite broscientists preaching about "inferior plant protein", outcome studies show that there is no difference in outcomes for muscle building between vegans and meat eaters when the total amount of protein is similar. E.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/ Moreover, there is much data that replacing animal protein with plant-based alternatives is very good for reducing mortality: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32658243/ The effect is pretty shocking: "Replacement of 3% energy from animal protein with plant protein was inversely associated with overall mortality (risk decreased 10% in both men and women) and cardiovascular disease mortality (11% lower risk in men and 12% lower risk in women). In particular, the lower overall mortality was attributable primarily to substitution of plant protein for egg protein (24% lower risk in men and 21% lower risk in women) and red meat protein (13% lower risk in men and 15% lower risk in women)." It's very easy to get 1-1.5g of protein from plant sources simply by eating lots of lentils, beans, tofu and grains.
> Also talking about environment I'd like to see your "local" diet as a finn in winter
I made no claim whatsoever that I would eat a "local" diet. While not irrelevant, the environmental impact of where the veg is produced is lesser than eating meat, even when shipped from the other side of the world. Moreover, cattle/pigs/chicken also eat imported grains&soy which could have simply been eaten by humans.
>>/59942/
Heh, the emissions are inconsequential, especially since almost all of the electricity here comes from either nuclear or renewables.