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The subject of this thread is bait. I have got a multilayered metaconspiracy hypothesis about Trump. It's so meta, it's not even about Trump per se, but how inaccurate and pathetic the consensus of speculative geopolitics is at guessing certain future events, the general "attention span" of remembering past events, the quality of the sources of information to retrieve data from, and how blaming a Jew is a counterargument to shut down the minds of critical analysis from transpiring. I will give a few scenarios and past examples, but I'm not going to "prove" my hypothesis.

Even before the beginnings of the Anonymous Imageboard, there were already Scholars, Hippies, NatSocs, Conspiracy Theorists, Christians, and of course, Jews and Spooks (government agencies) among them both, prior to and after Web 1.0 became available for middle class people with some money to purchase a Personal Computer and pay for a Dial-up connection. These old people oldfags have a firmer grasp on history, had more "attention span", but had less access to information. As time went by, more and more rabbit holes of disinformation and even misinformation came about, even unlearning their previously learned conspiracy theories to be replaced or improved with more information after it occured. Know that these old people oldfags were at least 21 through 50 years old before 9/11, held their beliefs prior to the internet and essentially didn't change much. These people are valuable sources of intel even if they're wrong about some things, they are justifiably wrong which is better than merely being wrong. Experience doesn't mean much of anything, but these people know somewhat on how to think. These people "gain value" in time the longer they maintain their presense. It's funny how Alex Jones is most likely Bill Hicks with plastic surgery, is COINTELPRO, appeared in a movie, said that he was a Jew, and he even married a Jew, yet even the most discerning people still value the contributions that the Infowars team provide in spreading a level of awareness to others even about very important info from better sources although if they named those sources, he would lose viewers and might get blacklisted. The guest speakers are very noteworthy people that are merely using Jones to share their own ideas, ranging from Trump to Richard Stallman to David Duke, Lyndon LaRouche, even Texe Marrs and Leo Zagami although ALL of said people dislike Alex Jones. Anyways, there's plenty of better people than Alex Jones out there that has a fairly competent understanding of geopolitics not too blinded by their own ideological purism that are old people oldfags. I am not said old people oldfags with a mind, but I picked their brains for a good seven years or so (but was awoken years prior) and still doing just that. There's people who's been on the internet longer than my current age, but again, experiences doesn't matter, for it is knowledge, wisdom, skill, good computer specs and a good internet connection that matters on the internet, and common sense is for sheeple. After 9/11, a whole bunch of normalfags fell for these rabbit holes and many had failed to see the real ones from the fakes, but fortunately, the collective internet consciousness had risen in the better spreading and gathering of information that was sown and harvested from those that invested in investigating what the sower had given some clues for people to look into that they share back to the harvester, which everyone became their own sower and harvester whether that be citizen science or citizen journalism, everybody contributed, remembered, and grown, looking both back in time and forward in the future through understanding current events and the history of all things behind everything that you can humanly gather at your own pacing. Cont.
What really disturbs me is the type of people that we deal with is actually the people that influences "we", isn't really that bright of a bunch from my observations, people that don't know when an appeal to authority is necessary or not, people that can't accept that correlation isn't always causation except when the shoe fits, people that think Ron Paul was an authentic politician, generally people that are excessively stubborn to their political, ideological purism from understanding some of the flaws behind their own statements that actually comes from borrowing the logic of their enemy. /pol/ and the conspiratorial side of /x/, regardless of the situation, is never always right, empirically speaking, but you guys have some level of tunnel vision, less historical attention span, and some long held axioms of truth predetermined by your peers that are not actually true. Remember when most of us thought Hillary wasn't going to win at all? Only a honest researcher would admit to the actual reality that Trump was not meant to be president, that Soros rigged the votes but didn't expect the voter turnout to be so high for Trump while the battle to change the electorial votes to switch to Hillary took place in December even through early January. People casually ignore that George HW Scherff, one of the conspirators behind the JFK assassination, did the mafia cut throat gesture in a Trump campaign facing towards him, that Barbara Perci Scherff pretty much given Trump a death sentence for beating Jeb the turtle. People don't realize the promises that Trump had made includes destroying the 501c3 thing to be done against churches that kept them from speaking up about politics as well as from being against gay marriage to be done in their churches because they're state controlled churches. Many things he promotes are very good policies, he made Ford and Carrier to build their factories in the US and hire Americans, he is a 9/11 truther although he's bluepilled concerning who did it, he might secretly can't trust Boeing airplanes although made it about money in declining in having them build the $4 Billion airplane, he even kicked out James Woolsey because of a potential CIA assassination attempt against him from him (Woolsey). What needs to be understood here is that Trump is still Jewed but some of the Elites and Banker Jews and Court Jews are not in favor of Trump. Newsweek printed their disinfo which was available a full three days prior to the election results which that recalled issue is sold for hundreds on Ebay now, most definitely a collector's item. It's complete utter bullshit when I hear you guys claim that it was meant to be, by you guys I mean those that left 8chan's /pol/ because you hated pro Trump narratives being shoved down your throat, although there are other valid claims to not stay in 8chan, for you guys wanted to have your political theory over dealing with the facts. That's why you will only recognize the wrongs in Trump alone and never admit that Trump did any good, intellectual dishonesty is committed here. Cont.

Another example is how there's many factions among the "we", which includes the Good Saloon, pagans, retards who believe in memes, various splintered views concerning NatSocs, cultists (like masonry), religious people, even pro Trump and pro Alt-Right people come here from time to time. Endchan users is predisposed to hold onto a specific mindset affected in the search for a home away from home, self victimization, hatred against Jews. However, they had become supporters of their enemies similarily in the way the Alt-Right was Jewed, so did /pol/ became an unwilling promoter of the Jew in promoting ethnonationalism which promotes Jews to leave for Israel. You are under a catch-22 that has no real answer to accept for extreme measures of violence. In exchange in securing the existence of white people and a future for their children, they still must support Israel. Nobody can ksay for certain as to what would Hitler had done if he had known what the Jews would do in the creation of a global secular religion called the Holocaust that directly benefits the Jew to be used against people that doesn't even have anything to do with it just in denying their account which in turn convinces more people to donate and promote the awareness of the Holocaust even more. You can't ignore the problem or else you would let it grow, while if you go against the problem, you would only exacerbate the problem to increase while your cause decreases because of groupthink. That's the true power behind any ideology in general, but it's only powerful when it's in power and also the majority. You guys then hypocritically attempt to or actually succeed to create a new axiom of truth within the collective consciousness in /pol/ of something that isn't true, claiming that the enemy abuses a certain argument even if it has nothing to do with them, then claim the argument is false by giving an intellectually dishonest counterargument carefully designed to counter the argument, which such arguments are engineered by some of your peers so that you don't need to think for yourself, you just need to repeat what they had said. Cont.

So how how much of /pol/ actually have a thinking mind to be able to tell if they're full of shit or not? Too few to count. We've reached the point where we've been Jewed so much we don't know, we simply don't know, and it's about time there's more people that are honest about not knowing the future, admitting to only speculating on things, even when they're simply repeating what others before them told them to think. YOu can think deeply yet be completely utterly insane. I won't listen to insanity, but unfortunately, so much of us are already completely utterly insane, being unable to find a proper perspective on things anymore, a false enlightenment based on knowledge without any wisdom to properly show what is on the other side of the shadow, the principle that cast the attribute, which the insane calls the shadow a thing in itself to be real when that is to reify an attribute to be separate from its principle as its own principle.

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meant to say Goon Saloon, honest mistake, I fucking hate those people.

How do you go up against a catch-22? Find a loophole in their logic, but also go against their groupthink, but don't oversimplify something or else the context will be lost which then will be used against you. Making shit easier to be understood ironically comes with a sacrifice of misinterpretations and misunderstanding followed by disinformation when they use your well intended but slightly uninformed explanations against you back into the Catch-22.

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Rhetoric itself is already compromised by having it being a set of things that are supposedly true and tested which many "fallacies" addresses which are not necessarily fallacies yet it is actually ideological fallacies formed if one has a specific set of beliefs which demands a specific taboos, redefining "common sense" as a weapon against another specific set of beliefs. Therefore, there is no pure philosophy when nobody can agree with certain absolutes or the denial thereof to justify one's specific set of beliefs. My very advice will be used against me as logic itself already is corrupted against itself to deny itself improperly through dishonest people with an agenda. Me saying this is that my agenda is exposing the general concepts behind how concepts are formed in words that I understand which you may not.


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