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 >>/30792/
> American hegemony is starting to crumble

But their cultural influence only getting stronger. I mean, their popular culture is everywhere, all these spidermans and other comics things, black and wannabe-black rappers, SJWs and other moral crusaders. It is hard to avoid this not only in English-speaking communities, but even locally nowadays.
 >>/30822/
> all these spidermans and other comics things,
Don't kid yourself. American media is more likely safe and trite so every culture already believes anything they peddle. I saw Captain America: Civil War and none of my friends even understood the position of Cap, it was too nuanced.
 >>/30826/
> government oversight and surveillance bad!
> too nuanced

Do Scandinavian countries just find it hard to swallow in general that people do not trust their government? I find this a common trend in the likes of Sweden and Norway, it's almost adorable how naive some of them are about the nature of Big Government.
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 >>/30807/
I meant to say that the US was friendly towards them, looking back, it wasn't the best choice of words.
 >>/30814/
jej
 >>/30822/
American culture replaced european culture many years ago, besides the influence of these things (SJW and shit like that) is generaly exagerated in the internet by /pol/ in order to sell their world view, as a person who has lived in many provinces in spain I haven't many SJW irl, even thou Spanish /pol/ says that they are everywere
 >>/30849/
That's really not even the same question as with you federalists who already surrendered to an EU-style "big government" and inherit your entire world view from that kind of context. When our high-tax states have to spend their time managing the public spending instead of pressing a button to decide who in the private sector it should be subsidized to, they have little time to target individual citizens with bureaucratic bullshit. The additional top layers in federal governments on the other hand seem to exist to have nothing but time in their hands.

In Scandinavia you don't usually get vindictively punished for saving a life at the cost of breaking the law, which is what Cap does to harbor a fugitive (Bucky) who's about to be killed by a foreign operator (Black Panther) on American soil. We can probably assume Cap isn't going to go hang for it in the movie either, but his position is to do the crime in the first place. What I hear from moviegoers is commonly along the lines of "sucks, but he should obviously just let Bucky die".
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All right, I don't know whats the word on other chans but this one is full of pure coincidences.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50942664
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Settlement%2C_Texas
Church of Christ congregation in White Settlement, Tarrant County (Texas).
What Bernd gathered about this?
 >>/33626/
Wow that's a lot of familiar names. I'd like to know who the attacker was and what was his motives but from what I see now it's unknown. 
You think that was some kind of revenge or just someone memeing?
 >>/33630/
 >>/33631/
It's all just happenstance. It was just a random white bum ofc.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/texas-shooting-hero-jack-wilson/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/30/us/texas-shooting-keith-thomas-kinnunen-profile/index.html
I like how this topic is covered by Mr. Amir Vera. And the reading suggestion at the end of the BBC's article. Was journalism reporing the facts ever?
> Kinnunen it was the Finns
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 >>/33640/
Oh, this is genius.
Look at the header of these and the previous two CNN articles, timestamps and authors. How they smuggled Mr. Amir Vera with time among the authors of these articles. He's just the perfect man for the job, black and Muslim (or Amir/Emir is that popular name among non-Mulsims).
I can just imagine how these companies are just having these guys around with these diverse background to throw into the fray when it's necessary. The battle of opinion forming, the great struggle of our time.
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Here's the nigga, who got shot.
What I don't understand those three cops around why couldn't they restrain him, why did they let him walk around the car? All of them jerking out their pistols, why can't they hit his thigh muscle with a baton instead? They had to learn techniques to restrain people, no? Here policemen do. Srsly, wtf?
 >>/39518/
I cant help to think of technocracy about all the police things. I've heard from several sources about "citizen police" aswell. My guess is, in a technocratic society police aren't of any use since AI controls everything and is the police, judge and law. So this is just propaganda, to make people feel this vitriol disgust against the police. 

Same with politicians and bureaucrats. There is no room for them in a technocratic tyranny.
 >>/39523/
> technocracy
That depends how a technocracy would be constructed. And also how we define technocracy.
> AI controls everything and is the police, judge and law
As for now one entity cannot fill all those shoes, srsly tyrannical and people wouldn't agree on that. Protip: the govt telling you wear your fucking mask on public transport isn't tyrannical, the abolition of the separation of power is trannical.
But in this context how do you define law? The legislation?
I think the base police force in the US is undertrained thugs or worse undertrained and undereducated civvies in uniform who can't handle themselves (and definitely not others) in a stressful situation.
 >>/39524/
In a civilization money power rules it all. When coins and paper cash is gone, and everyone has a chip to pay for things there is no need for any external force. 

5G is there to connect everyone with everyone else, the hivemind. You might argue that we are already living in a hivemind, and in a way we already are. I was drinking my (raw) eggs and milk today for breakfast and my colleagues were worried I might catch salmonella. I asked if salmonella is a town in Italy. They didn't see the humour in that. So everyone is thinking the same, dresses the same, acts the same. What if they also (with a brainchip or altered DNA/RNA) feels the same? What if they can feel the starvation of a niglet in africa and thus thinks that rationing of the food is a perfectly sensible thing to do?
 >>/39529/
Saying you're gonna catch salmonella is just a routine thing. You can tho, not from the raw egg, but the chickenshit on the shell. Although stuff can get through the shell it isn't insulates hermetically. 
The others with the brainchip and stuff I won't comment, it's pure fantasy. Oh I just commented.
 >>/39564/
Because I could tell you a bunch of things gonna happen tomorrow but no matter how sure they will happen they would be just stuff I come up with and right now they only exist in my heda.
What you wrote is similar, except it contains more assumptions.

Anyway, my point was originally, that the US police is underfunded, they should spend more on them to get better human material to pick it as a career and to give them better training.
I don't think even in a possible future when all payments will be digital (I refuse to believe in chip implants, it's easier to do it with some gadget, like smart phones) simply penalization via the ability to make payments will result in the abolishment of the police force. Criminals don't give a rats ass about retribution, and those who commit crimes because they get agitated (eg. someone gets pissed at another and punch him in the beak) also don't give a shit in the heat of the moment. And even if solely digital payment will exist, there will be ways to get around of it.
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Stolen from Bernd.group.
Nice little addition.
Okay, he's got a knife. Okay he brandished it. Maybe he can walk just decided to roll, so counting on him staying seated isn't a 100% bet. Maybe if he entered it would have been harder to diffuse the situation.
But in that fuckin moment, how is it not possible to use a non-lethal way of dealing with him?
Just grab the baton and hit his hand so he can't drive that mobility chair on and disable lel him to use his knife with one action.
Or taze him.
Or something.

I bet all the officers train with gun with religious fervor, and spend little thought on practicing other ways of handling people.
That neger with the knife who got shot (and survived) and the event caused the Kenosha riots also could have been neutralized differently. I have no doubt Hungarian police could have dealt with the situation - and I don't have too much regards toward them or have overinflated trust in their capabilities. But I do believe they are thugs enough to beat up people who would use knife against them, without themselves being harmed.
 >>/45765/

People who work in some profession often have thing called "professional deformation". For police it is specifically valid: when everything in your life is filled by pretty specific kind of people, you start to expect everyone be like them, and often begin acting like them (because there is no other way). It requires serious amount of will to prevent yourself from becoming thug when every person you interact is a thug who rarely understands anything except force. Especially considering that people who go to police already aren't big humanitarians either.

American police has specific local problem: they work in environment full of armed people who don't care about prison sentences and may shoot on sight just for fun, especially in some ghetto regions. So they already have deformed enough personality that forces then to shoot first and think later. It saves them in most cases, but when case is different they just can't act in other way.

I think any amount of training would be useless for US police until they'll fix their complex system problem with crime-ridden regions, but there is no reasonable solution in sight.

> no doubt Hungarian police could have dealt with the situation

I guess that if you fill Hungary with large amount of weapons and people who don't afraid to use them everyday, your police also would transformed to something like this in few years.
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 >>/45768/
> For police it is specifically valid...
That's true.
> specific local problem
> especially in some ghetto regions.
Sure. But in this particular case above, that person did not look like a gangbanger preparing for a drive-by in his mobility chair.
> crime-ridden regions
This is important, not all areas are Detroit, or south central LA. The real gun crime ridden parts are localized.

Maybe there is one more component of the problem. What I see these videos that they seem precarious in the beginning, they let the thing spiral out of control to the point where they have to use deadly force. Here's the shooting that triggered the Kenosha riots (and the Rittenhouse case)  >>/39518/
Maybe their uncertainty comes from the general disdain projected towards the police and the feeling they have to cover their asses, and they are afraid to do what's necessary early because they might be afraid of being called out for police brutality (even tho it would be just a beating what they do). Damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

> I guess that if you fill Hungary...
Maybe. I don't hear much about shootings, even tho we have plenty criminals, and criminal elements who arm themselves, so something must happen.
It's not that hard to get weapons legally (sanity and background check essentially - sames in the US), but probably the prices are high in comparison to wages (last time I heard complains from a pal that hunting rifles are expensive, no idea about other weapons).
Criminals have their own channels, especially in organized crime.
Can this theory of professional distortion apply to this as well?
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=VG0wfPMMR4k
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> 73 years old woman with dementia and "sensory aphasia" leaves a store with ~$14 worth of items (candy bar, detergent, t-shirt, "be less white" soda), she gets thrown to the ground several times, "are you ok? it's ok, the blood is hers", her arm is twisted behind her back, arm fractured, shoulder dislocated, "here comes the pop! hear the pop?", then handcuffed to a cell for about 5 hs.


She wasn't shot, unlike that wheelchair man, but can a pig really confuse a tiny babushka in bright daylight like this with a tough criminal in a dangerous situation?
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 >>/45828/
> but can a pig really confuse a tiny babushka in bright daylight like this with a tough criminal in a dangerous situation

I think it is no about confusion, but about mindset. They see people not as humans but as potential criminals and "work material", and see themselves as people who have power to do everything they want. 

I.e. they do it because they can, and they have no problems with it. Even those who don't really have official power, like commercial security in shops or offices, often act similar way. Maybe it is about seeing yourself not equal than others in some perverted way, or just basic monkey instinct to use violence to establish yourself in hierarchy.

That is why it is better to avoid people who works in such professions (police, prison guards, etc) when you can, even if it is informal situation and they aren't at work - who knows what happens in their heads. I guess exceptions surely exist, and there must be good and humane policemen, but there is no way to distinguish between them and other types.
 >>/45828/
Watched the firs vid until they put her into the car at 5:10. Where's the beating starts?
Because up until that point, that's not that bad. Ofc the policeman isn't a doctor or anything who could tell she's not right in the head (and criminals do play that card) and doesn't look like he uses much more force than the situation required, and he also can't judge if her bone structure can't bear that.
Way better than thinking the phone or the candy bar is a firearm and shoot her.
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Anyone else here listens to psytrance/chill?
New Óperentzia album is out, last track is a banger. They fuse the psy-electronic with guest musicians doing Carpathian and Balkan folk music.
https://operentzia.bandcamp.com/album/biohack
 >>/45834/
Ok, so you were talking about a mental "unbalance", or out-of-norm out-of-place "balance", resulting from the professional conditioning. Of course, that makes sense
Actually, this explanation is probably within the orthodoxy and in some cases it might be a deliberately sought-after state, just like how part of the military training is to remove from the/some trainees potential reservations that they might have, possibly born out instinctive senses (something like "empathy"), in order to make out of them more effective extensions of the commander's will. Similar training no doubt also is imparted to police, specially considering the growing militarization of civil forces.

 >>/45837/
The videos don't show any "beating" (as in punching, kicking, etc.) but if you skip around in the videos you can hear and also read subtitles which show that he did realize he harmed her because he makes comments about it. Like asking where some blood came from, or in the video showing the police-station office he asks "did you hear the pop?", they all watch the dude's worn camera and he expectantly announces "here comes the pop!" and "I love it!", he also looks at some documents in his computer discovering that she's 73 and might have mental issues yet the old woman would remain several more hours handcuffed to a cell with an injured arm and shoulder. Seems like he also didn't really need to drop her into the ground again to apply that leg restraint because he says to the fatso something along the lines of just being very eager to finally be able to use it on someone
Of course, way better than being shot 8 times Lol
So we see and hear about all those f ups police in usa and it made me think: how are places where only sheriffs exist doing? I heard opinions those places are much better and safer. Perhaps defunding the police is the way after all. Sheriffs are voted into the position by the local community, no?
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 >>/48420/
I have found this:
> https://policetribune.com/pastors-say-cell-phone-video-of-malcolm-johnson-shooting-shows-execution-after-he-shot-cop/

> https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=TW2-_R2yF2c

> https://apnews.com/article/kansas-city-michael-brown-kansas-police-shootings-07c9ee2bca9013d73d8751a263932aa5

Apparently it happened more than a year ago, but the case has been "in review" since the video above was revealed. The dude in the floor was a nignog suspected of having participated in a deadly shooting. The police claimed they shot in response after he produced a gun and shot a policeman in a leg. However, this is disputed by other people who believe he was unarmed and the shot came from another police (probably that woman seen in the video)

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 >>/48425/
Thanks.
Bloke pulling a gun while that many officers manhandling him doesn't sound plausible. One fucking up and negligibly discharging his/her gun is more like it.
> 1st vid
Couple of bullets really can make an uncooperative person placid. I bet  they have several classes on this in police school.
> 2nd vid
He played too much vidya.
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Bloke stabbed three cops with a knife. One dead.
They shot him in the leg and arrested him...
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> wrestles gun from officer
> get shot
I'd really watch the whole thing spiraling out. That cop whose gun was taken looks incompetent, how he let that happen? Obviously there is more to it.
Then the dude walking up towards the arriving cop cars, calm as a cucumber. Did they just blast him, or did he went for a shot first? The branches covering the scene.
Tried to search about this but who knows when was this taken.


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