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 >>/40793/
So who are the anti-Semites of the Labour?
Those who did not grew up with a ballgag in their mouth when it comes to the Jews. Who came from places with politics directed against Israel. Whom weren't told that anti-Semitism isn't presentable anymore at the table. Whom are treated now as holy cows (similarly to Jews) by the left and the liberals. The Muslims. The politicians either reflect the thought and will of their Muslim supporters despite themselves are "natives" to Britain, or themselves are Muslims. They dare to criticize Israel, or point out some corruption case where they seem to discover Jewish ties, or just crack a joke making fun of Jews and Israel because in a normal world it shouldn't be a big deal, or whatever they do when they get labeled as anti-Semitic. They dare it still, or dare it again, doesn't matter. If it's a knee jerk reaction of theirs or out of their honesty they just point out real scoundrelism, real injustice - which should be pointed out by anyone -, it doesn't matter either.

Here's two articles:
https://5pillarsuk.com/2020/01/20/its-time-for-muslims-to-leave-the-labour-party/
https://time.com/5731406/british-election-muslim-vote/
The first one - while I haven't read it in its whole length yet - clearly shows why there are voices in Labour that could be labeled as anti-Semitic.
The second is interesting (written by Musharraf Hussain) how the author brings forward the anti-Semitism as alienating factor with a sudden switch, throwing some dirt on the Labour. Really I would expect this from a "white" person.
 >>/40794/
They were a rhetoric tool to illustrate a point. The new generations growing up care about issues of the Muslim community, and among it the topic of Israel. Most won't go out with an AK or a knife of a truck to kill some kuffars, but want to be represented in the common way of politics.
 >>/40798/
Besides dealing with Israel is a mandatory task in every countries' foreign politics. In UK it's also important, as a Muslim voter, a citizen of the UK, they want to express their views in this question.
(I remember from the time when Bolsonaro was elected, relations with Israel was among the topics, and the programs of the parties. The relations with Laos wasn't for some mysterious reason.)
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 >>/40763/
> Not sure what Belarusians expect. They can get Onkel Luka with Russian orientation, or they can get someone with EU orientation which just so flawlessly worked out for their southern neighbour. Never ever they will join EU, unless Germs and Frenchies will be so desperate for working hands and even negers and ayraps are coming first. And joining the EU won't give salvation, just the promise they can get somewhat better living standards while being a colony for Westerners. And will the EU exist until then? Who knows.

Now they are mostly protesting against harsh police reaction, not about elections as is. Police is really pretty harsh, now it easily enters private apartments and beats everyone just because it can, and people aren't like it.

Compared to this, political reason is more broad and abstract - people tired of poorness, corruption and bad situation in economics, but no one really cares about specific president candidate, because all of them are literally nonames from nowhere. These candidates (those who didn't jailed yet) also act like stubborn clowns, so protest is mostly unorganized and, as we may see, not really effective. Of course some forces support protests (including Russia who likes that Lukashenko becomes friendlier), but overall it is just a unorganized mess with constant demonstrations and police reaction, that leads to nowhere.
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One of the top topics of the day - people talkin, media reportin -, the terrorattack in Vienna, done yesterday evening.
Were some conflicting info what went down. Now it seems the whole thing was executed by one armed man. 4 dead, 22 injured, one wounded policeman, lost of pants soiled. They were searching for a second perp, but it seems he was alone.
The perpetrator is a Macedonian dude, Austrian citizen, 20 years old, who wanted to leave for Syria to join ISIS back in 2019 spring. He was arrested and was in jail until December. Now it might have been better if they had allowed him leave. Oh well.
Posted on social media he's gonna do something. He had an AK, a pistol, a machete, and a fake bomb belt. The attacks were made about the largest synagogue of Vienna. He was shot in the end, by the police.
After the attacks the police raided some places and arrested over a dozen people.

Here the TEK (liek SWAT) was mobilized and sent to the border in case a terrorist wanted to leave toward us, or the help to the Austrian colleges if needed.


Meanwhile our hospitals are getting full with covid cases, several places all the "family doctors" (not sure the right term) are called in to hospitals.
Constrains are introduced again. Curfew between midnight and 5am, mandatory mask during events, in theaters etc, closing down nightclubs, etc.
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 >>/40846/
Pro PKK people were trying to make us look bad by showing Turkish speakers on the incident even thought one of them saved one victim or something. Some people are really gone blind with hate and many people are victim of improved brainwashing techniques and this is happening in one of the most developed part in the world. What happened in this incident saddends me but not more than what will these bring in future.
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 >>/40848/
The Hungarian news portal I usually link has an article on the front page (and had yesterday too) about two Turkish MMA fighter who saved the life of a granny and a policeman. Mikail Özen and Recep Tayyip Gultekin. Or Gütelkin because the author made a typo somewhere. Or Gütelkin I'm not sure anymore, wtf, the quality of the journalism... Anyway this latter dude got shot as well.
https://index.hu/kulfold/2020/11/03/becs_terrortamadas_torok_segitok/
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The 2020 European Football Championship was postponed to 2021. The qualifications are just over, and I can proudly announce we are in the Championship! In Group F with France, Germany, and Portugal... The F in Group F stands for Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
 >>/40972/
France is the current world champion (2018), Portugal won the last Uro championship (2016), and Germany is the 2014 world champion.
We still can win, if we play in a 10-0-0 formation and one of them scores an own goal.
hohol football team came to switzerland, some players were tested positiv for the virus, local doctor ordered quarantine for the whole team, Switzerland wins 3-0 walk over, probably, unless uefa rules something else.
 >>/41037/
 >>/41044/

There was a funny situation in Russian championship: game between Sochi and Rostov in June ended with 10-1, because all Rostov team was quarantined, so they put kids on field (not even second team, but young team 16-19yo, that didn't even train in covid lockdown times).

Sochi could allow game to be postponed, but didn't do it (Rostov and many other teams allowed that when had same situation, but Sochi decided that win is better for them) and generated wall of hate. Kids also could score one goal, and did it in first minutes - that what unexpected.
They use corona searching dogs in Finland. Gonna look into this more, maybe I'm gonna find a foreign article.
https://index.hu/kulfold/2020/11/18/covid-19-kutya_koronavirus_finnorszag_teszt/
 >>/41056/

Yes, these kids also became relatively popular, especially when they also could score the goal against professional team. Goalkeeper got award for record number of saves etc.

And their opponents received universal negativity, especially considering that Sochi also had similar problems with players in past, but their opponents agreed to reschedule game, so there were double standards. Sochi is also pretty specific club, made from nothing by rich oligarch (Rotenberg).

https://www.espn.com/soccer/russian-premier-league/story/4116677/how-russian-champions-league-hopefuls-rostov-were-forced-to-send-kids-out-for-10-1-loss

That was normal season game, but with that covid multiple games were postponed and schedule became a mess.
looks like hohols flew back on the Ukraine and found a doctor who gave them all negative tests. they are putting the blame on Switzerland now, claiming the local doctor ordering the quarantine was the reason they couldn't play.
 >>/41066/
It's weird how Sochi decided to go ahead with the match then. Their own fault now getting flamed.

 >>/41075/
Oh I know, the Switzers poisoned them, and when they arrived home they didn't got poisoned anymore so their tests were all right by then. It all makes sense now.
 >>/41076/
the tests show negative sometimes and positive sometimes. its not accurate what so ever since its not testing for virus since it the covid virus has never been isolated. 

how can you test for something you have never isolated?
One of the founding members of AKP made speech about how s.demirtaş should be released from prison, not too long ago s.demirtaş said "We will build statues of Apo (nickname of Abdullah Öcalan head of PKK)" which made him imprisoned. The founding member is not just anybody which indicates AKP returning to pro-PKK policy as in 2002-2014 era which happens due to election of biden and erdoğan will do pretty much anything to save his "throne". 

Expect erdo bad therebefore Turk bad news lose its popularity if this happens, last time I checked they didn't give a single shit about how erdo repeatedly break the constitution and repression of secular Türks. You dont see much news about saudi arabia because they are loyal dogs and you will hear about erdogan less because he will return to his "democratic" erdoğan persona, the person punishes its military due to constantly preventing USA uses the army as cannon fodder in Iraq, which started crusade of kurdo-islamists reactionary forces. 

The common media does not even severe human rights violation of gulenists and creating an alternative state. When you know as much as common western media allows it is hard to oposse the truth they created. 

Obama states in one of his books that is written after his presidency ended, "I know erdoğan will be democrat as long as it helps him to stay on top" . Well we knew this before obama was even a senator. Don't get me wrong, you didn't need to be a political genius to see it coming. As erdoğan stated in 1997 "Democracy is not goal for us, it is just a tool, we will use it until we reach our goals" . But still erdoğan has presented as moderate guy in the west and seculars were demonized to the core, and people has happily eaten it. When you have "free media" like this, who needs censor and repression?
 >>/41082/
Why did Erdo-PKK relations break down in 2015? I suspect it was about Syria, the PYD's emergence threatened Turkey and the PKK camp was aggrieved by Erdogan's early attitude towards ISIS. Who escalated, then?
 >>/41083/
It actually started in 2013 albeit slowly, so anything between 2013-2016 although speculative fits the narrative. 

> why?
Why erdoğan was pro fethullah gülen but he eventually said fuck you to him behind the screens or gülen thought erdoğan fulfilled his role and time to get rid of him we cant know this for sure.

What we know is gülenists were recording everything and tracking everything down. For example when I won the university before I shared the news with my friends and family, an unknown phone number called me and was spoken with in a matter that unique for gülenists (trust me if you know any other Turk he would confirm) and told me I won x university in y city would I like to stay in their super cheap "family oriented" (islamist for clueless) dormitory. This was happening for everyone. 

So the recording and tracking is goes beyond soviet levels. Anyway, in 2013 they leaked several soundtracks how corrupt AKP is and how an members of the islamist party mocks islam in a way makes islamaphobe parties in europe look moderate.

This kept leaking for 1 week, the news channel that used to be both pro akp and pro gülenists split off. Certain news channels took the akp side and certain ones took gülens side. Eventually erdo won, all those leaks declared "montage" and any oppossition that mentions those leaks was declared "taking orders from america".

After this event erdo said, gülen is bad but his followers is not, tried to show his "good side" but of course most didnt fall for it. Gülenist soldiers were still in present in military also.

Since erdoğan was acknowledging threat from gülenists and their military he had to strike deal with eurasianist anti PKK military. (any military is actually anti PKK but there were leaks in highschool and university exams in massive scale, so gülenist people could enter military schools which are the most prestigious things in this country, such retards couldnt enter before) 

Of course military wanted to fuck PKK up in return take blind eye to erdos massive corruption and violation just as free media™ of the west did. So after these events massive erdo bad news started to occur.

Even during gezi parkı protests that was an genuine attempt to fight against islamic oppression people did not see such high scale of erdo bad news. Because hint hint, erdo was good with PKK and tensions with gülen was happening only behinds the screens if happening at all. 

I dont use the term islamic opression liberally as fearmongers in the west. The guy said he would create laws against male&female students staying together. He also said "they are atheists, they are terrorists!" literally.

If you have any more question you can ask. I might have deviate too much.

> ISIS
Erdo supports ISIS thing was mostly russian propoganda, you dont see it pumped much nowadays. Ironically russia started but they are the ones not mentioning it.

One of the reasons behind this claim president davutoğlu (a puppet of erdo) they are just angry mad lads (about ISIS) and severely undertimated them. Very similar statement was also made by president Obama and it's not hard to find. But for some reason USA needs to throw us from NATO for this, what kind of logic is that is beyond me.

Don't get me wrong, these people are corrupt, nasty if they actually let ISIS do its thing I wouldnt suprise, I would expect everything from them. But main reason was this sentence and russian propoganda (cant blame them) When you are an islamist party and make dumb fuck comments it is hard to oppose you know, they had it coming.
 >>/41085/
> If you have any more question you can ask.
I have. Can you give a quick rundown on the Turkish political palette? Parties, movements, maybe personalities that everyone counts with (like that Gülen guy), and a couple of words what they represent?
> that phonecall
Creepy as fugg.
> "taking orders from america".
> But for some reason USA needs to throw us from NATO for this,
This is weird since Turkey is strongest NATO member right after the USA. And it's close position to Russia and the Middle Eastern hot spot makes it even more valuable. So I guess besides rhetoric on both sides there's not much into it.
 >>/41086/
> Can you give a quick rundown on the Turkish political palette?
I will answer this one with details, so don't assume I skip this one.

> Creepy as fugg.
It gets creppier when all your friends get through this and feel helpless because you know they are the state. By the way state dormitories had very limited capacity and regularly "privatized" to gülenists. So most people despite hating them, had to send their sons and daughters to their dormitories. Gülenists were called "cemaatçi" which means pro (religious) community. It was common occurence to get fired from bureaucracy and get death threats for not referring fethullah gülen as "hocaefendi" which closely means "his highness".

> This is weird since Turkey is strongest NATO member right after the USA. And it's close position to Russia and the Middle Eastern hot spot makes it even more valuable
That one is just loud call, realistically it is not possible at this moment, homewer kurdish independence and investing in both kurdistan and Turkiye is on the table. USA has to rely on us in this side of the world and they hate the idea of Turkey taking inititative BUT, just accussing them is not part of solution. Soleley accusing is what butthurt failed and colonized states do.

We need to acknowledge the fact that our people cant decide rationally and implement a temporary enlightening despotic system. People of the west needs to acknowledge the fact that, they can't have a rogue "moderate islamist" state in their backyard, especially our neigbours. It will be like invasion of iraq except x10 times worse, with all refugees running around and power vacuum. Supposedly 'fascist' military does not have any territorrial claims meanwhile both kurds and neo ottomanists-islamists have this exceptionalism and maximalist territorrial claims. Our worst case in this case is cyprus, even for that we accepted annan plan and accepted unified cyprus by no means our military wants to swallow it. But quite recently erdo made another rogue claim and demanded 2 state solution, he knows he will sanctioned and he also knows sanction will portray him as devout resistance leader. 

Core of this nation does not have schizo claims like these alliens.
 >>/41087/
> Soleley accusing is what butthurt failed and colonized states do.
solely*

Also forget  to mention, afaik Israel managed to deviate from the west without saying big fuck you to power balance system in 1948 and 1967, roughly which we were supposed to do.  Since they were victorious it was good thing to bet their table. When we show our resilience, the west will also bet in our table. It is them behaving absolutely immoral both to us and their people, but it is us bring a existential war to ourselves in future with reckless stupidity of our masses.

By no means I dont support irredantist claims, neither I accept the defeatism. I'm not opitimistic but it's not too late to fix things, though it is harder than ever.
 >>/41085/
> The guy said he would create laws against male&female students staying together.

Ban co-ed schools? It used to be so no long ago. It has it merits. I don't find this very oppressive.
> He also said "they are atheists, they are terrorists!" literally.

For him. I mean maybe atheists really scare him. But anyway, putting aside "true" atheists, agnostics, pantheists and such, this can be understood as a proxy for western neoliberalism, the religion of among others fedora-tipping Dawkins fans, compulsive freedom-and-democracy exporters, ngos, and most sjws (the others already went full commie).
 >>/41095/
You make judgements according to your political culture, so it is normal to be wrong in here.

> Ban co-ed schools? It used to be so no long ago. It has it merits. I don't find this very oppressive.
Not co-ed schools but he worked towards it, he implied every secular Turk having having opposite sex roommate and being immoral according to them. We were declared as open targets. He dont give a shit about education quality, only to consolidate his people and dehumanize us.

> this can be understood as a proxy for western neoliberalism
Most "western liberalists" are believing in "moderate islam" and wear its allien unofficial islamic dress uniform which never existed in these lands.

Atleast half of atheists are kemalists, enlightened despotists or apolitical. Supposedly we are north korean tier according to liboş (turkish liberashka faggots) people. 

> ompulsive freedom-and-democracy exporters
No kemalists or anything of that sort asked an intervention from the west. It was moderate islamists doing it. I wish Turkish sources could be more avaible for others, it would be easy to show how kemalist journalist treated in the west.

>  sjws
This what people live like secular and support islamist people do. They live in  their ivory tower yet fall for every islamist ploy. When you see a sjw and scracth it he/she eventually rant about how opressed muslims are and preach his faggot liberashka values at the same time.

There are true liberals in Turkey who 
 are not allien to lands they are living in, but they are very marginal, politically they are non existent.
 >>/41096/
> You make judgements according to your political culture, so it is normal to be wrong in here.

It's interesting hearing you describe those analogs, thanks. But when I referred to fedora-tippers, sjws and the other "atheists" I meant the autochthonous western kind. I did not intend to say that these denominations can be meaningfully used to refer to Turkish groups.
Anyway even if as you say they are an irrelevant minority in Turkey atm, I'm sure politicians there have taken notice of the many examples of "colour revolutions" around, so I would expect them to simply extrapolate from "atheism", i.e. "liberalism", to "regime change", and therefore danger. This is why I included ngos for example.

> Not co-ed schools

> opposite sex roommate

> We were declared as open targets

Well I suppose any policy can be carried out in "oppressive" manner. I was just pointing out that the particular policy of schools (or dormitories) separated by sex used to be the norm not long ago, has its value, and hardly seems oppressive to me.

> Most "western liberalists" are believing in "moderate islam"

Right. They are the same thing, or at least cognate. The "moderation" of "fundamentalists" is an important part of the process of political "(neo-)liberalization" of religious countries employed by the west. A strong foothold into a territory otherwise well defended by religion.

> Supposedly we are north korean tier according to liboş (turkish liberashka faggots) people.

You seem to be implying the typical western view of best korea ("oppressive, despotic, backward, protectionist, traditionalist, heterosexual, racially aware, ... ;)", or [in ominous voice] "non-democratic"). But is that the kemalist view? The turkish mainstream view? Or are you translating into western view for me?

> No kemalists or anything of that sort asked an intervention from the west. It was moderate islamists doing it.

Right. In other words, "atheists".
 >>/41106/
> You seem to be implying the typical western view of best korea
I was implying liberashkas sees us as relic of past century and they are super duper enlightened, west is waiting us with open arms, it's just they need to get rid of us.

> I was just pointing out that the particular policy of schools (or dormitories) separated by sex used to be the norm not long ago, has its value, and hardly seems oppressive to me.
I'm aware of existence of private christian schools in the west. I have no particular sympathy for christianity neither any religion, but what's happening is very different in here. Plus what I originally meant, he started violent targetings and lynches. Seperate sex schools is hardly biggest mistakes of erdoğan, I heavily doubt it would even make top 1000.
 >>/41113/
> relic of past century and they are super duper enlightened, west is waiting us with open arms

Indeed the usual "progressive" rhetoric: "we are are progress and bright future, therefore everything else is stagnation and decrepit past".
But I was actually interested in the answer. How does an average turk view best korea and its rulers? Which is to say, what sort of narrative has turkish MSM given to them?
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 >>/41114/
Idk what MSM is but most Turks dont know which korea is the North Korea is and most dont even care.
Other than that, people who pay attention to North Korea dont like them, but still no obsession or constant mentioning whatsoever.

I know very marginal old guard communists sympathize them, but you have to be very lucky to see one.
Finnish boat went schizo and believed herself a train run up to the shore at Aaland.
https://www.thelocal.se/20201122/finnish-ferry-runs-aground-in-baltic-with-nearly-430-aboard
> Viking Line
Or maybe they just wanted to plunder and pillage the locals. Huh, these guys should offer adventure sails and go on raiding along the Baltic, maybe even hit some towns further down toward the Atlantic.
 >>/41085/
Let me try to interpret this. There are Eurasianist officers, gülenists who are more favorable to western geopolitics than the former, the PKK, Erdogan maneuvering between the other three and international media. When Erdogan was friends with gülenists and PKK international media didn't care much about him, but then he switched gülenists for the military, as a prerequisite ditching PKK. As the military is less favorable to Western aims his international image was tarnished. Now he's drifting back towards PKK and away from the military, because of this his image improves. And will his stance towards gülenists change? Where is his powerbase if he drifts away from the military?

> Erdo supports ISIS thing was mostly russian propoganda, you dont see it pumped much nowadays
What people following the Syrian conflict noted all the time was his neutrality towards it, the border around Jarabulus was open for foreign fighters to flow in.

 >>/41141/
Greece.
 >>/41145/
> When Erdogan was friends with gülenists and PKK international media didn't care much about him, but then he switched gülenists for the military, as a prerequisite ditching PKK
Correct, it's just he didn't switch for lulz, something forced his hand, we can't know what exactly.

Something to add here not all more western leaning military are gulenists, it's just gülenists caused leakage of state secrets to USA. All military agents has been compromised.

> . As the military is less favorable to Western aims his international image was tarnished. Now he's drifting back towards PKK and away from the military, because of this his image improves. 
Yup.

>  And will his stance towards gülenists change?
Has to be. IF he pulls it of sucessfully. 

>  Where is his powerbase if he drifts away from the military?
That's the problem, end of the road.. If he tries to purge military to put back gülenists again well, gülenists are not in military position to pull of such purge anymore. 

This last siutation we talk about kind of makes it complicated.

> the border around Jarabulus was open for foreign fighters to flow in.
Yeah, both ISIS and pro PKK terorists has been infiltrated, such a shame. I remember the times during teror attacks people were wondering was it ISIS or PKK. People who were voting for HDP was deleting their comments on social media about lamenting the attack if PKK undertakes the responsibility of the attack.

 >>/41086/
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 >>/41157/
Gülenism: 

An American backed, Gladio-cultivated group inserted during the 80's coup as a fundamentalist religious cult neck deep in espionage, crime, assassination, extortion, terrorism, coup, social engineering and ideological indoctrination. Their ties with CIA has long been proven, if not explicitly disclosed by the USA itself.

This is the group that have been working tooth and nail to bring down the secular republic, the very foundation of Turkey. Republicanism in Turkey is not a political perspective, it's one of the main bodies of how the state works. Gulenists have been working for decades to bring down that pillar. Not only they are against the main existence of Turkey itself, but they act as pawns of the US. They remove their opponents, extort large business owners, get paid from very dark sources, insert their people into everywhere, from American colleges to Turkish state institutions. Lately I even heard about them having part in recruiting to isis.

When I say assassination I'm not exaggerating. The word itself is probably too light to describe the violent ways they use to get rid of journalists and political figures that often brought out their crap into the public. They also had a play in the assassination of the military researchers/engineers that take place in Turkey frequently, much like the assassination of Iranian scientists. They can hide themselves as anything, from progressive islamists to Turkish nationalists. In truth they serve to nothing but global neoliberalism and their own inner monstrosities. 

They mostly based upon "moderate islam though" Moderate enough to be consumarist, pro-american laptog, islamist enough to be jihadi pawns of USA. Before AKP they were infiltrating, after AKP they were specifically placed in bureucracy. Under no circumstances assume these people have any kind of patriotism, they don't they only serve themselves to suceed they serve USA. 

AKP: Erdogs party. They started their journey with liboş (Turkish liberashkas, "colonial elite" people) and "moderate islamist" gülenists. They were massively pro PKK, they even called their dead equal with Turkish martryrs. The only reason why the military didn't fuck them over with coup d'etad is general staff was secretly gülenist. It was one of the reasons why the military failed to counter PKK. Because of the "don't shoot if they don't shoot against you". Many of independent sources confirm this. Eventually AKP strenghten their pro-PKK positing due to consistent and intentional military failures, with the "don't let mothers cry anymore" rhetoric. While all of these were happening, the west celebrating our democracy while our constitution were repedeatly raped.

TSK: Turkish military forces. Elite of the elites of the republic. Every state that it worths their salt has a deep state that keeps the state together, in Russia it's the intelligence, in Turkey it's the military. TSK have legal status and responsibility to protect the constitution, because common rabble won't you can trust me on that. So coups are actually LEGAL.

With Ergenekon and Balyoz kangoroo courts, the military purged worse than what happened in france during french revolution. Especially navy forces got hit so bad. It was one of the reasons why Greece so easily working on their ways to de-facto blockade us from the medditerranean and create national threat against us thanks to traitors amongst us. 

Nowadays Gülenists have two proxy parties, DEVA and Gelecek party. First one targets more liberashkas and apolitical youth latter targets moderate islamists that fed up with Erdoğan (close to non existant)
 >>/41691/
Cont

TSK is stauncly kemalists and they are the only institution that they got it right. They have pro-NATO and eurasianist officers but none of them are eager to leave NATO, it's not about liking Russia or anything like that it's just pragmatism, in 90's we had military with eurasianist tendency. Needless to say USA didn't like it when we fucked over PKK and make Abdullah Öcalan talk like a bitch. They stopped disliking our military after Iraq invasion, they started to vehemently hate it. 

USA don't want us allies they want us as dominions that is checked with other dominions such as kurdistan. So of course they bitch about muh genocide even when our "invasions" are very gentle on civilian deaths. According to treaty of Laussane and international laws we have right to intervene when a non state actors (such as terrorists) run amok in next to our borders. 

CHP: Atatürk's party but not so much nowadays. There are pro-PKK CIA assets in the party the most notable one is TR705. After 2010's head of CHP Deniz Baykal has forced to resign becuse he was banging a female parliment member and gülenists taped it. They replaced him with a "social democrat guy". Every secularists that has 3 digit IQ knows we are nothing without military because we're something like Ashkenazi Jews in germany(hence the "white Turks" term), without military we have no hard power so we can be easily opressed. But of course this massive retard claims they come with vote and will go with vote, he doesnt even mention about our constitution getting raped. Appereantly our constitution is there for shits and gigles and people can do everything with votes.

The parties are in Turkey are not elected by popular vote but with delagtes. Since the delagtes are alevis from Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's hometown, they mindlessly elect him despite consistent epic fails. The guy image amongst people, even amongst CHP voters is a fucking joke.
Before AKP most of our people were secular, islamist parties at best getting %15-20 of the votes. But CHP's weak attitude and letting secularists stuck in Thrace and coastal region is the thing that let AKP stays in power. CHP especially after 2010's intentionally tried to portray Atatürk as quasi libleft figure, as you can guess most people get Atatürk wrong, CHP's voterbase amongst anatolia has been diminished because of this. In 2018 presidental elections Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu most likely betrayed Muharrem İnce, there was massive fraud going on and the guy claims the party intentionally didn't place inspectors on voting boxes.

If you don't have balls you don't get votes from outside of the coasts. Compromising in Anatolia don't work. We have autocratic mentality, these retards are disconnected from reality.


MHP: Their predecessor has been created because CHP has been deviate from nationalism and Ataturk's ideals. This what Alparslan Türkeş claims, de-facto the founder of MHP. They are islamo-turkists, even though religion and nation still clashes in this nation, so being nationalist and conservative is not a realistic option here, you'll eventually disregard one of them. But of course MHP begs to differ. 

They have marginal voterbase and always been so but they used to have massively energetic youth that creates trouble for pro-soviet proxies before 80's coup. After 80's coup they were sent to prisons just like lefties because it was hard to control them. 

The party has rural voterbase and populist attitude but some of the higher ups are educated enough to keep their dignity. They support de-facto elite oligarch schools for bureaucracy, I think it's one of the few things they got it right. They usually prefer USA to Russia but since it's era of eurasianists in Turkey, they just go along with the wave.
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Vatan Partisi: They got %0.22 of votes but why it is important? Because head of the party is an old KGB asset. He used to be communists but since communism is kys'd and eurasianism and EU sceptism is main ideology of Russia, he supports them. he guy used to get support of military staff that got purged with kangoroo courts but his support is kind of diminished. Massive eurasianists, openly calling to leave NATO. Despite they have meagre votes, they casually go meetings with Russia and China.
They are so eurasianists they call Uyghur Turks as terrorists and think CCP is right about them.

HDP: Pro-PKK party and don't even hide it. The only reason why they are not shut down because erdoğan scares half of the voterbase votes for CHP. They got higher votes for targeting hippie, left-liberals before that the predecessor party got %5 so they couldn't enter the parliment. Used to be Erdoğans best buddies.

İYİP: It was created as progressive MHP (dont take the word progressive as pidor WECTern word) then eventually turned into centre right since they purged elite ex military nationalists. It is rumored to become gülenist haven, but since peoples eyes have blinded by erdoğan hatred they usually disregard anything that comes from the other side.


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