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 >>/74735/
no she's like... actually fat...she has huge thighs and a double chin when she doesn't anglemax.
Also cope because I'm not Iris nor any other literal who you'll inevitably accuse me of being because you can't stand that your thot got called a chubster.
You are FatSaturn though, obvious retard typing style.


 >>/74743/
No sweetie, it's just that you literally make the same posts every time you come here.
> she is just pouting 
> you must be iris
> you are just jealous haha
> you are samefagging

Nobody is jealous of a doxxed fat teenager who enjoys skibidi toilet and tranny brainrot.



 >>/74745/
Oopsiedoodle I made someone angy! Now now FatSaturn, it's time for a nap. Can't have you getting cranky on the internet, it's bad for your blood pressure.
Say "night night, thread" and I'll put on your funky fruit sensory videos so you can have sweet dreams.









 >>/74767/
to add onto this, I do feel sorry for her mom.
Imagine popping this little goblina out and buying her all the weeb garbage she asks for to make her happy... only for her to repay you by posting nudes on the internet.


































 >>/74853/
Wow, ms. Conchita here lookin good, usually mexicans look like overblown balloons past forty. Also chinmogs me into oblivion.

Puki got the best of both worlds - softer more feminine features, killer eye area, and a chin you could cut glass with.



























 >>/74995/
MOCKING HER IS ONE THING, BUT DON'T EXPOSE HER SINFUL PAST TO THE WORLD!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, SHE'S A PURE CHRISTIAN GIRL NOW!! THE DEVIL MISLEAD HER WHEN SHE WAS TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND!! BLAME HER PARENTS, BUT DON'T EXPOSE HER SHAME ANY FURTHER!! LET HER LOVE ON, PLEASE!! I'M BEGGING YOU!!




 >>/74998/
STFU TROLL... I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY GAMES WITH YOU... JUST DON'T EXPOSE HER ANYMORE!! DELETE HER NUDES FOREVER... NOW!! DO NOT NOT NOT FUCKING POST THEM HERE!! DO NOT EXPOSE HER ANY FURTHER!! I WILL FUCKING FIND YOU IRL ISTG IF YOU FUCKING POST ANY MORE!!!








 >>/75004/
 >>/75006/
IF SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH DEFENDING A CHILD'S HONOR IN YOUR MIND, THEN I HAVE DOME FUCKING NEWS FOR YOU P*DOS... SERIOUSLY, JUST LEAVE HER ALONE. STOP CALLING HER A WHORE. STOP POSTING HER NUDES. STOP MOCKING HER. STOP CONTACTING HER FAMILY WITHOUT A GOOD RSASON... LEAVE THEM ALONE, LEAVE HER ALONE. DON'T THINK ABOUT HER IF YOU CAN'T DO SO POSITIVELY IN A POSITIVE WAY. I AGREE SHE SHOULDN'T BE USING IMAGEBOARRDS AT HER AGE BUT PLEASE STOP!! IT BREAKS MY HERAT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN TAKE... SHE IS JUST A CHILD PLEASE!!!




 >>/75009/
ANONNN...!!! ANON SHE IS FUCKING NAKED AND BELLOW AGE I N THAT FUCKING WEBM!! DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND??? DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND??? THINK ABOUT THE G*DDAM CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS!! DELETE IT FROM YOUR PC AND ASK JESUS FOR FORGIVENESS... NOW!!







 >>/75016/
Never be afraid my friend, I don't posting anything too much
Maybe you're get a little gore here and there especially with those cock eyed commies fucking around with their bullshit these days
But hey listen
There's no need in this thread, you could got down a thread or two where it is now and find just what I'm talking about
Either way you're a friend to me just as everyone who hasn't fucked me around








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 >>/75027/
You amaze me
My friend, listen
I'm probably going to see my time real soon for what my situation is and all but I'd like to give you some advice 
Fuck em
You act like you owe something to anybody that speaks you to
Fuck em
Don't fuck me of course cuz first I'm and man and that's pretty gay and 2 I'm a very special man and not in the retard way 
But see how easy it is to be sly and have fun, cuz my friend I may care for you as a person and if you came to me with a real issue I'd help but other than that you are just another so have some fun huh 
It's your turn
Have some fun




















 >>/75072/
Her streams are full of dead air and are just plain awkward (not in the cute quirky way). She wouldn't be marketable as a vtuber because her current YouTube content lacks any sense of personality and pizazz. Its all low effort BS that other girls have done before and way better.


 >>/75072/
 >>/75073/
I don't think she's actually considering this anymore. I don't think that was the motivation for wanting to become a vchuuba either. I think one of her main problems is not being able to make the content she wants right now because of her time limitations








 >>/75088/
skimming through her streams every time i hit play i only hear silence. she NEVER talks and she doesn't even react to the cutscenes. she's painfully boring, like a mentally stunted kid in front of a screen and not in a cute or endearing way. an she will never improve bcs she's surrounded by yesmen that in all likelihood are all fat saturn alter egos

 >>/75086/
 >>/75090/
there are many other women who can do the loli voice better than her and besides that they are actually funny and entertaining, which pukara is not



























wow cool it’s the annual gathering of the pеdорhiles

incompetent tranny groomer mods will the be the end of this site. not surprising considering two of them are mods on watchpeopledie.tv

yeah retards we know


























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 >>/75633/
I have periods of browsing /r9k/, but I'm not a proper robot, so I was never really around to see pukara posting - to the extent she did. based on the archives her attention whoring included being overtly sexual, but at some point she shifted hard into the infantilization & high-functioning fetish: I wonder why that is. perhaps it's just more marketable for her streaming prospects and less potentially harmful for her irl social relations (especially long-term).


 >>/75644/
Meh, I think her goal was always to surround herself with old guys who want to fuck her. And she knows how to be sexual enough to achieve that without looking like a huge whore. But if you know then you know.



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 >>/75647/
> I think her goal was always to surround herself with old guys who want to fuck her
I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just wondering to what end. she started streaming on KICK over a year ago but seems to have stopped after a few months. and in the past few months she's done a few streams on YouTube and has around the same time started to upload videos. so I can't help but think that the character she portrays in these videos might have something to do with some ulterior motive to be a streamer/internet personality; as opposed to a broader goal in the past, which was just general attention from men for its own satisfaction. obviously I'm just speculating, though.



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 >>/75656/
> shes cute and cool enough
definitely cute enough, but I feel like she'd have to be more similar to someone like Josie - who, from the bits of her streams I've seen, is much more high-energy and interactive - in order to get a wider-reaching audience.
 >>/75658/
> her having a boyfriend
some anon had mentioned that earlier - maybe it was you yourself - but has it ever been confirmed that she has a boyfriend? I could see that, to be honest, just curious where that comes from.
> Her desperate need for attention was pretty noteworthy and pretty much defined her for a long time.
at best I could really only see her streaming prospects as a way to get attention and a little bit of cash on the side or trivial items off of her wishlist.



 >>/74911/
nobody reasonable is bullying her you hysterical faggot. she’s not doing anything wrong. whoever is bullying her is either some jealous woman or some spiteful balding jackass. she’s young and she’s being groomed and manipulated by adult ass grown ass men who would get knocked out by anyone who saw the fucking behavior they display online. 

you’re a predator. you’re just as bad as the people tearing her apart, if not worse. 

she’s going to look back on this one day at the tail end of an early adulthood filled with bad choices and remember how all of you abandoned her and called her a whore once she had her first kiss and she’s going to wonder why you lame fucks are so cruel, and understand why girls of the past from here keep dying or going AWOL. 

nobody is bullying her, the only people victimizing are dramawhores and the stunted реdорhiles like you who have to pick up girls at a daycare because any girl old enough to realize your obsession is a fetish for underage girls and not genuine care for others would absolutely never interact with you under any circumstances. get cancer.

i wish she could exist online without becoming a fucking sexual object like you creepy fuckers posting her tongue and making funny jokes. absolutely detrimental to any young girl who wants to enjoy life online without being stalked and harassed. seriously kys


 >>/75667/
> she’s being groomed and manipulated by adult ass grown ass men
not them, but proof? I don't know everything about the pukara lore, and this thread is pretty barren all things considered so I don't think it's an impossibility, but here it just seems like people are either lusting over her, talking shit, or just making jokes. whatever she's happened to post anywhere seems to be of her own volition.















 >>/75755/
Tormenting a random girl online just because the voices in your head told you that she's leading a harassment campaign against your best girl is actually insane. Does Pukara support this behavior from her fans or is she just simply powerless to whatever you pedrophilic fucks want to do and say on her behalf? I'm leaning more towards the second option, honestly. Rope. Now.


 >>/75759/
Because I'd like to think Pukara wouldn't support people bullying a random girl and dangling her legal name over her head because they're under the impression that she's a evil häggard cyberbully out to ruin every girl younger than her. If you can't see why or how this is fucked up, I don't know what to tell you.


 >>/75755/
> Tormenting a random girl online just because the voices in your head told you that she's leading a harassment campaign against your best girl is actually insane
that is unironically what iris/her imaginary orbiters do
> Does Pukara support this behavior from her fans or is she just simply powerless to whatever you pedrophilic fucks want to do and say on her behalf? I'm leaning more towards the second option, honestly.
pukara is a nice girl who has defended iris in her server, r9k and even on her own board yet iris continues to talk shit about her. my angel doesn't deserve this from you evil retards so fuck keliyah and you even if puk doesn't support it

 >>/75764/
> That is unironically what iris/her imaginary orbiters do
Alright, then prove it. Show me actual proof that Iris is doing to Pukara what you're all doing to her.
> pukara is a nice girl who has defended iris in her server, r9k and even on her own board
I agree with this sentiment. That is precisely why it's deeply upsetting that people like you (and the many others putting down the other girls for trivial reasons) are representing her. 
Until you show proof that Iris is doing what you accuse her of, and that this bullying campaign you have all started against her is even in the least bit justified, you, as a collective group, will just be one big steaming pile of shit.




 >>/75768/
hey roastie :) the difference is that these pictures are selfies from a year or 2 ago that were taken by HER and aren't purposefully unflattering, like most other egirl pictures. the pictures you're posting are MUCH older and happen to be from her mom's facebook (doxxing). it's kind of a big difference. stop being purposefully dense roastie-chan
> she still looks fugly with all those filters. sad.
meanwhile she isn't even using filters kek she must be pretty cute if her haters think she's using filters when she isn't






 >>/75777/
I don't use facebook because its run by a jewish faggot but according to an anon in the thread it used to be public, i don't even know her mom's name let alone care to ask
why are you assuming this shit its borderline schizophrenic behavior

 >>/75775/
That's circumstantial evidence at most. Iris posts on agatha2 on the regular, and just because she defended herself from those accusing her falsely of being a bully, doesn't mean she was the bully. You are just looking for excuses because you want to be a piece of shit to someone. I wouldn't be shocked if the whole "sticking up for Pukara" thing was an excuse, just so you could be toxic to others while also being able to tell others, and maybe even yourself, that you have a good reason for doing so. If you can't show actual proof, I will stand by the girls rather than the people flinging shit at them for no reason.


 >>/75783/
> just so you could be toxic to others while also being able to tell others, and maybe even yourself, that you have a good reason for doing so.
most iris and other egirl haters aren't even associated with pukara. i happen to be but i also just genuinely think keliyah is ugly and annoying. i'm allowed to voice my opinion and so are others, idk why you think it's only her simps
















holy mental illness
>  underage girl posts
>  grifter sees opportunity to troll/spam
>  absolute chaos ensues
i'm not going to lie the drama is fascinating but the whole using underage people to troll is cringe
pukara is also a bit interesting but seems mentally stunted in some way and spamming on 4chan to dogwhistle for pedros is a bit strange as well. egirls should be famous cuz they are cute, not this dumb troll and predatory mental illness weirdness











 >>/76307/
its pretty obvious theyre using an underage girl to troll. discord servers have done similar things, where they make an underage person advertise their server by trolling.
it triggers people cus theyre underage, and the person trolling gets some thrill from their reaction. 
if im being honest the whole thing is really annoying but nothing stops a minor from posting themselves on the internet if they choose to, so theres no point in trying to do anything about it.

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 >>/76383/
I don't know about the validity of her underageness nor anything about any discord servers, I just come here from time to time and stumbled upon this thread. I'm trolling a bit by using her likeness, but more than anything I just find the character she's playing funny given her collection of suggestive videos and selfies. really not into pedro-baiting or anything.



 >>/76413/
i mean, its an underage girl acting sexually for old men online. they are not "supposed" to do that, at least for adults, but what the hell do you do if they do?
its fascinating because it's taboo. you can't blame the girl because she's underage, and if people react to it, what else were you expecting if someone pedrobaits online?
i think ultimately her parents just suck and other people end up having to deal with meme drama

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 >>/76413/
> not really funny
in a sardonic way, I would maintain that it is. but I can appreciate a broader sentiment towards humanity and how her behavior (and my own, to be honest) reflects something undesirable.
 >>/76417/
> its an underage girl acting sexually for old men online
again, I didn't know about pukara until quite recently, but what exactly is the evidence that she is or even was underage at one point while posting on /r9k/ or elsewhere? I've seen a few posts of picrel on desu archive, and one or more people say
> DUDE SHE'S FUCKING 14!
which may certainly be true, I just want to know what the proof is and where I can see it.

 >>/76468/
well it shows that not every kid that gets groomed is always some innocent or unknowing type.  some kids want to get groomed or fetishize being preyed on. still doesn't mean it's right to respond or feed into it.

 >>/76521/
> well it shows that not every kid that gets groomed is always some innocent or unknowing type. some kids want to get groomed or fetishize being preyed on
I'm not exactly sure which of my points you're responding to, but I'm also still not sure whether she really is or ever was a kid (i.e. under 18) when she first started posting to /r9k/ and elsewhere online.
> still doesn't mean it's right to respond or feed into it.
I think it depends on how it's done. again I'm not on any discord servers, and I don't try to message pukara on any of her accounts, so posting a few photos in this containment thread I feel is relatively harmless, albeit a poor use of one's time.

 >>/76529/
im pretty sure shes 15 or so. cus there were birthday pics
> I think it depends on how it's done. again I'm not on any discord servers, and I don't try to message pukara on any of her accounts, so posting a few photos in this containment thread I feel is relatively harmless, albeit a poor use of one's time.
i dunno. it just seems weird and kind of messed up to troll using a minor, even if they seem "okay" with it. that is my opinion. most people don't understand what kinds of ideas or behaviors they agree with until they grow up. no one wants to be some poster child for hateful things, and it feels vaguely narcissistic to use someone as such

 >>/76535/
> cus there were birthday pics
where? posted by whom? I saw a photo which appeared to be from her, perhaps from an instagram or snapchat filter, expressing that it was her birthday, but obviously that in itself doesn't prove anything. again, as far as I've seen in the archives, she's denied or avoided her age - which may rightly raise concerns, but still doesn't prove anything specific. I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just would like to actually see something besides someone simply reaffirm that she's under 18 or justify it by saying "look at her" or something.
> most people don't understand what kinds of ideas or behaviors they agree with until they grow up. no one wants to be some poster child for hateful things, and it feels vaguely narcissistic to use someone as such
I have some disagreements with that framing, but, and I don't say this to be rude or because I have some problem with you, I'm not it would be fruitful to get into a deeper discussion about it. I will probably tone down or stop my posting here altogether, after some reflection, but I would still be interested in the aforementioned proof.


 >>/76537/
it was a birthday pic with her and her mom. there was a balloon with the number 14 and it was for sure taken recently cus of the articles in the photo.
i mean im not trying to pathologize or make things deeper than actually is. i just think its messed up to troll using a kid and to associate unknowing people with harmful ideas. minors will post if they want to but grown up adults can control how they respond

 >>/76544/
> it was a birthday pic with her and her mom. there was a balloon with the number 14 and it was for sure taken recently cus of the articles in the photo.
I'm open to seeing the photo if you have it, but metadata can be altered. at this point it's still just heresay.


 >>/76551/
> im not gonna scour for some random pic that probably doxxed her in the first place
fair enough, if you don't have immediate access to it
> why do you care so much?
not just here, but quite often elsewhere online people make claims about things with no evidence. I'm not necessarily opposed to believing them, I just want proof before accepting and even putting forth such things.


 >>/76555/
> they're presenting and being advertised as underage
please elaborate on both fronts
> i don't really understand why it makes a difference
you and others have been the one's making the claim that she is in fact underage and have been basing your thoughts and/or proscriptions about discussion about and interactions with her on that idea. so the truth of that idea is quite relevant.


 >>/76565/
> i dont see the point in entertaining this conversation.
if you think I and others are
> normaliz[ing] grooming
and want that to stop, I would think you would have some interest in proving your point. her age at this point is still unproven as well as the grooming question. I don't think I'm infallible by any means and would hope that I don't groom someone, but mocking someone about their persona in their absence is not grooming. if she has been grooming into posting some of the relevant photos and videos, you might have an argument of normalizing grooming in some capacity, but again that's just conjecture at this point.


 >>/76568/
they are underage. there are photos. 
> cunny
> pedros
> 14 meme
> uninvolved parents
> irl pedro allegations and cheeze pizza leaks
seriously it doesn't take a genius to understand what kind of behavior this is alluding to. id love to believe she's actually of age and this is all a big troll but no, this is straight up the internet being the setting of a minor being sexualized by random old men online. that is messed up. this should not be considered acceptable or normal behavior.
> and want that to stop
i can't. that's the parents responsibility. at most, adults should just stop using a minor to troll and not feed into this type of online behavior.


 >>/76573/
> there are photos
if you're talking about the one with balloons showing 14, I've yet to see that. if it does indeed exist and you've inspected the articles, again, metadata can be dubious. for all we know that (hypothetical photo) could've been taken over four years ago at the time of posting on /r9k/ or wherever you happened to see it.
> cunny
> 14 meme
even if just a troll, that I think can fairly be considered normalizing grooming/pedrophilia in some capacity. but again, I've done none of that.
> uninvolved parents
whether her parents are involved or not, that doesn't prove either that she was actually groomed into taking those photos and videos or that she's underage; to the broader discussion sure, but to the specific discussion we're having that's not relevant.
> irl pedro allegations and cheeze pizza leaks
the criminal complaint is interesting and would be conclusive if MV-1 could be conclusively linked to pukara. some anon above has said that her name is mary valencia, but I don't know where that started - perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't.
> i can't stop how minors i don't know behave online i mean
that's not what I meant. I meant stopping people from normalizing grooming - however all you think that's done. obviously there too it's ultimately out of your control, but my point was that if you wanted to support your claim that discussions about her in the capacity they've been going on are wrong because she's underage, I would think you would be interested in getting evidence to prove that and perhaps influence people to stop. again, I acknowledge that people are going to do what they want at the end of the day, but I and perhaps others are not closed off from criticism and actual proof.

Normally I refuse to interact with this thread at all because there’s no reason to but this is a very retarded argument taking place. She is obviously underage. Some anon kept posting her parents’ facebook profiles which had regular updates dating back to 2010 documenting this girl’s life. The last time I ever interacted with one of these threads was just to chew someone out for posting her family’s Facebooks then I tried messaging them to tell them to make everything private but I doubt they did. But anyway. She is 15, there is no doubt about that. 

But whether she’s doing this all on purpose as part of some fetish is another question. Yes, I’d say it’s obvious she’s doing that considering her post history and how she pivoted from being hypersexual to now pretending to not know anything and be innocent and only care about toddler hobbies with an obviously fake, forced voice that’s constantly straining. But this is probably just the result of being sexualized from a young age online, then feeling bad about what she was doing, and now the cognitive dissonance is on display. Regardless of any of that, she’s still 15 and it’s wrong to enable this part of her, not to mention the extreme conclusion to enabling it is illegal. What she needs is to be ignored, but unfortunately pedros gonna pedro. 

I wish BO were active again so he could just ban these threads again but the volunteers must not see an issue with it as long as pedros aren’t being too obvious.

 >>/76592/
> She is 15, there is no doubt about that
as far as what you've seen, perhaps not. but nothing here that's been posted is conclusive, and appealing to her appearance is not a good argument, especially considering the filters she uses; some people look older than their age, others younger. and obviously if you're a short girl that will further blur things. all you're doing, like others, are claiming there to have been posts proving her youth without actually posting it. you do not have to - feel free not to - but for someone such as myself or another who has not followed pukara's existence online towards its inception, a lot of these "facts" are rightly still up in the air. there's nothing retarded about asking for proof.

 >>/76587/
i mostly find the trolling wrong. honestly i am too lazy to dig up whether you did something wrong personally, but i am mostly arguing that an underage person who sympathizes with pedrophilia does not mean its right to use their likeness to support pedrophilia. it seems like people find a minor who has a pedro fetish, and think it gives them full leeway to support and justify pedrophilia altogether. no dude, pedrophilia is still messed up.

 >>/76603/
also, because, most of the time, they don't really understand their beliefs on the behaviors itself. they're a kid, they see a way to get attention that might be lacking in their home life, so they start adopting a pedrobaiting personality online. do you honestly think most people continue to enable these things into adulthood? no, because they realize how messed up it is.

 >>/76603/
> i mostly find the trolling wrong
> it seems like people find a minor who has a pedro fetish, and think it gives them full leeway to support and justify pedrophilia altogether
those aren't the same thing, though. you can be a pedro and troll about someone being underage - regardless of whether they actually are - therein hiding your genuine sentiments, but that's precisely not an example of justifying pedrophilia, which would be more unambiguous.
> they're a kid, they see a way to get attention that might be lacking in their home life, so they start adopting a pedrobaiting personality online
I don't care to get too much into the armchair psychology of it, but you could very well be right. again, for me, it just goes back to proof of these things before saying anything more definitive.

 >>/76617/
what exactly are you trying to argue? justifying pedrophilia to me is just thinking its okay to sexualize a minor. are you trying to argue that she's not a minor? or that trolling is not justifying pedrophilia? it depends on the type of trolling but i don't really understand the point of defining things further. if your troll is sexualizing a minor to get a reaction out of people, that's just being a pedrophile. whether or not it's a troll is irrelevant to the morality of the action itself.

 >>/76623/
like
> i molested a kid as a troll
that's just being a pedrophile. things are not morally different on account of the minor fetishizing pedrophilia or that she "likes" it. it's still wrong. that's not a troll.

 >>/76626/
justifying pedrophilia hinges on authenticity. if a troll is genuinely a troll it's by definition not authentic. if you make a joke about 9/11 being good but don't actually mean it, you're not justifying terrorism.
>  >I molested a kid as a troll
c'mon, that's just a silly argument.





 >>/76635/
okay, but, if you actually engage in the behavior the troll is supposedly actually *not* supporting, that's no longer a troll and morally right, is what i'm saying. if i engaged in terrorism as a troll, im just being a terrorist, i am not "trolling" about terrorism.
> sexualizing a minor is wrong
> associating a minors likeness with supporting pedrophilia is wrong
if you engage in these behaviors you are immoral, not a troll.



 >>/76641/
> this is not some movement. it's a kid dealing with mental illness. stop exacerbating it
again, there are multiple implications there which have yet to be here proven. I'm open to that, but otherwise this convo isn't going to progress any.

 >>/76642/
> more bad faith pedantry
if you think you are trolling, i don't think you are a troll. i think you are a bad person. if you are being serious, being hyperfocused on something that is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things is probably the most useless characteristics one can have. maybe you should ask why you care more about clarifying arbitrary minutiae over a kid being obviously groomed and sexualized.

 >>/76644/
> i think you are a bad person
> being hyperfocused on something that is irrelevant to the grand scheme of things is probably the most useless characteristics one can have. maybe you should ask why you care more about clarifying arbitrary minutiae over a kid being obviously groomed and sexualized.
I've said it already, but it's simple: I don't want to make claims I can't justify. if you provide proof of the aforementioned things I'm happy to denounce others as sexualizing an underage girl.

 >>/76645/
what about
> sexualizing minors is wrong
> pedrophilia is wrong
do you honestly believe anyone is operating under the idea that she is not a minor? no, you don't, i don't, even if she wasn't a minor (again, she is), the idea of someone justifying pedrophilia using someone's identity as a minor is immoral, whether real or not
> 14 meme
so, what exactly is that alluding to? it's not trolling, it's just being a bad person.

 >>/76648/
again, if you have proof, I'm here. I do not mean this in a passive-aggressive way, but I imagine you will want to get a final word in, so you can have it here. unless, of course, you can verify her age and/or her tie to the infamous crime report.

 >>/76650/
no. i will not bad faith argue.
> associating a minors likeness with pedrophilia is wrong
> sexualizing a minor is wrong
whether or not everything is actually made up is irrelevant. you are a bad person if you engage in these actions.

 >>/76600/
> nothing here that's been posted is conclusive
Because anything conclusive is basically a doxx, which isn't allowed, and is what led to the previous thread(s) being deleted completely. And I didn't appeal to her appearance, since I think she could pass for 22 if I'm being honest, especially outside of filtered/anglemaxxed pics. I don't have any "proof" saved because I'm not a pedro trying to keep a casefile on this girl, and now the actual pedros are avoiding posting her deets in order to save their own asses and maintain the "right" to keep posting about her. I just don't understand why you would doubt she's underage given the vast amount of (both confirmed and alleged itt) information circulating on her, both here and on r9k. Last thread had screencaps of her sexting numerous pedros over and over again just to go and report them to feds when caught by her parents (not saying this wasn't pedrophilic/wrong/grooming but she obviously has a very unhealthy kink for it due to mental issues). But I also understand the autistic demand for proof of anything at any moment. 

I'm sure there's court docs and if someone remembers her groomer's name then they can post a news article about it but I don't keep up with this girl so I can't remember the name and it’s not like I’d have it bookmarked or something. 

 >>/76650/
Literally the only reason you're not getting proof from me and this other anon is because we're not pedros so we don't have folders on this girl. And now the pedros are enjoying your devil's advocate position and will let you keep at it because, to them, it justifies their view that she can be presumed to be mature enough to legally consent to anything.




https://www.upnorthlive.com/news/local/saginaw-man-receives-19-year-sentence-for-child-sexual-exploitation

I will never forgive you for what you did to Eric. It's time to stop the nice, innocent and religious girl LARP. You're a psychopath and you're going to hell.





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 >>/77392/
QRD:
> pukara and Eric Michael Hartman aka weezy are friends, weezy is obsessed with pukara
> weezy becomes addicted to Adderall
> weezy makes fake posts about pukara on r9k and agatha2 
> to paraphrase, he wanted to 'shut her shit down, quick'
> is ignored, her fans also ignore weezy's posts
> something triggers weezy to addy zone out and send her old nudes to puka's mom
> pukara gets her shit rekt because of Eric
> pukara's mom gets the feds involved
> ???
> weezy tries to visit pukara
> immediately arrested when he lands back home
here's where things get weird  
> weezy *willingly* talks to the police, willingly gives them his phone code
> instead of paying for a lawyer, tells his parents to hide his $25.000*(this is big, i'll come back to this later)
> being charged with posession and distribution of CSAM (you know, sending a child's nudes on facebook tied to your own account doesn't seem smart)
> detention hearing happens, it comes out that he actually flew to pukara to stalk her house (proof attached)
> after a month or two of browsing his phone, the FBI add 2 new charges onto the case...
> weezy pleads guilty with the plea deal: admit to your crime of sexually exploiting a 13 year old on discord back in July 2023 and we will drop ACTIVITIES RE MATERIAL CONSTITUTING/CONTAINING CHILD PORNO and ACTIVITIES RE MATERIAL CONSTITUTING/CONTAINING CHILD PORNO
> weezy complains about having to pay restitution, calls his brother/dad angrily and tells them to hide his money
> weezy tells a certain online friend in a text on a device the FBI is monitoring in prison that he hid the money from them
> FBI gets angry and kicks the plea deal away, adding obstruction of justice to the charge
> weezy's parents try to tug on the judge's heartstrings with a letter from his lawyer requesting less time cus he a good boy who didnt do nuffin (attached)
> court responds in turn (attached), names another victim and her story, and shit on Eric
> Judge rapes weezy

here's some advice boys and girls: do not talk to the police, do NOT talk to the police, PAY for your lawyer if you have the money. he could have thrown 25,000$ at this case for better representation and not have to immediately pay restitution if he hadn't tried to hide his money. do not hide your money from the FBI using family. do not use prison phones to conduct illegal activity. most importantly, when you are warned not to fuck with someone and to stop, whether it's by your friend (chox) or enemy (fagsaturn), maybe you should stop fucking with that someone. weezy had the most warnings i've ever seen, but he, like many of you fags that lurk here and elsewhere, think you are invincible. you are not. judgement will come to those for those who trade wit for ego. stop playing yourself.



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 >>/77420/
But wait, there's more!
You may be wondering how could such a sweet innocent guy do this? And what does he have to do with picrel?

Well a tldr about weezy: 
> thousands of pics and videos of CP across all of his devices
> cult of personality with friends telling him he's the best
> finds vulnerable girls online and sexually exploits them (proof in the previous images)
> has the same mentality as  >>/77412/, that girls who have been groomed and sexually exploited are in fact not victims but uNdErAgE wHoReS who deserve it and deserve getting fucked with

so yeah,  >>/77339/ get fucking rekt. you're next

 >>/77418/
> he, like many of you fags that lurk here and elsewhere, think you are invincible. you are not. judgement will come to those for those who trade wit for ego. stop playing yourself.
Talking to yourself, fag?

That we both like cunnies doesn't mean we're the same. That's where our similarities end, actually. And I'm not even sure junkie church boy from bumfuck nowhere over there even liked cunnies to begin with, it seems like he just wanted to play out his power fantasy on a weaker human being, it just so happened that it was a child.

Sick and tired of fake cunny enjoyers without any father instict giving me a bad rep. Just stick to beating dogs and ripping wings off flies, faggots!


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 >>/77418/
you forgot to mention that pukara used to sell nudes to pedros

that pukara dated eric and she asked him to go rape her

that she dumped him and he got so mad he contacted her mom pretending to be a worried normie to get her grounded so she wouldn't talk to other guys

that pukara lied to her mom pretending to be some innocent girl and told her eric was some evil rapist so she would report him to the police






 >>/77422/
> has the same mentality as  >>/77412/, that girls who have been groomed and sexually exploited are in fact not victims but uNdErAgE wHoReS who deserve it and deserve getting fucked with

They don’t deserve getting fucked with, but you’d have to be detached from reality to not think certain girls aren’t intentionally seeking out older men. No grooming is necessary with them. The drive to seek out older guys existed before coming into contact with any “groomers” and they continue to seek them even after whichever groomer is gotten rid of.


pukara is the kind of beauty that makes you feel like a dry fountain has come flowing back to life. words fail to express her glimmering beauty and my heart surges when i see any pictures of her














 >>/77439/
> you forgot to mention that pukara used to sell nudes to pedros
Post proof please.
> that pukara dated eric and she asked him to go rape her
Post proof, please. The pics you posted shows nothing like that.
> that she dumped him and he got so mad he contacted her mom pretending to be a worried normie to get her grounded so she wouldn't talk to other guys
> pretending to be a worried normie
You serious, bro? What worried normie sends CP to a child's mother? You and I both know he was the type to want to win under any circumstances. He wanted her off the net. He was a bpdeman and a Adderall addled faggot who needed more than anything to see pukara off of 'his Internet'. There was no winning in this scenario, and you know & I both know how close he came to dying, Chox. This shit was serious and he had chance after chance to quit being such a fucking asshole. 
> that pukara lied to her mom pretending to be some innocent girl and told her eric was some evil rapist so she would report him to the police
I honestly would have done the same thing. Don't fuck with people's lives







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Are we allowed to post her now? Mods please explain? Here is a picture I found. I do not actually find her attractive or funny to be honest, but I find it interesting that her mere presence causes drama when she is pretty boring as an individual.







 >>/116065/
I think her nose is good but she should get surgery if she wants to. 

Rhinoplasty carries the risk of not being able to breathe properly and becoming a lifelong mouth breather. The nose is also 1/100th of the body and objectively doesn't hold that much weight to a person's rating.


 >>/116070/
I think she's beautiful, anon. Her eyes are big and pretty, I don't see how she has a huge nose. I objectively have a huge nose, she does not. Thin tiny lips/giant head? You're trolling now. I get it, you hate her


 >>/116080/
Which one is filtered? She looks the same in both of them but has her jaw open in the first one
 >>/75722/ for example does not look filtered.
> 5/10 indian
> definitely not a girl non stop hating on her face
Reading over this thread I'm starting to see why this girl is so controversial (other than the pedro crap) and either loved or hated. The negative opinion could not be farther from the positive. I'm gonna let you hate and just not respond to your points anymore but I think it's arguments like these, whether she's pretty or not or whether she's autistic or not actually keeps putting her in the spotlight.
People generally do not agree with you, both men and women  >>/115857/ but the obsessive hate from the minority seems pretty strong. Anon, there are much uglier girls out there. Pukara's pretty



















 >>/116314/
When I was around her age I was just as filled with tics and had small speech quirks because of my tism. I was bullied for it. back then they used to say gay not cringe. I think the term cringe is kind of gay. I relate to her, I like the video, it's very cozy and she's pretty cute
 >>/116316/
according to the archive she'd be 15 now











 >>/116333/
has she ever done anything that would verify that? the reason why i think she's a grown woman is because she was able to get a streaming setup like that. no 13 year old can get that. and also, cps would have went to her house because of that guy who got caught messaging her on discord. she also just looks like a grown woman using eye-enhancing filters in all of her photos and videos.























 >>/116407/
No, seriously. She would be little sister or daughter-tier if this were real. The illusion breaks because of how obvious her acting is. I've never been to her channel but I'm glad she privated her videos. I'd get irritated seeing comments buying into her bs.

 >>/116418/
I have been diagnosed with Autism and if she's acting it's good. I still have trouble and act like this when stressed or nervous. It makes me feel bad that you think it's an act. I genuinely can't help some of the stuff I do and she seems the same as me when I do that, so I like her

 >>/116428/
It's just hard to believe from the little lore I've seen of her. I'm not saying she isn't autistic, but I'm trying to imagine this being the girl asking grown men to groom her. I just can't see it. This is too wholesome compared to the screenshots of her supposed chats on Discord.












 >>/116449/
pukara is the christmas cake lol how do you not see that a person that retarded couldn't do the things she does. she didn't think this character through or something and no one knows who she actually is she's the one posting those "facebook" pics.



 >>/116463/
I've noticed she "sounds" more mature in the few screenshots I've seen. I sound somewhat different from the way I type but I can't see the girl shown on camera being the girl talking to grown men the way she does. I don't believe she's older, though.





















 >>/116997/
You... You don't know how "famous" e-girls and their bfs work, do you?
They all have simps, but one simp is always more dominant than than the others and gets to be her "boyfriend".
Puka has orbiters and is a known e-whore who has admitted she's gotten into legal trouble over selling her nudes in the past and is clearly still hanging out with older men who sexualize her.

Obviously she's the kind of retard who would think she can and should try to make a living off of selling her nudes.

 >>/117056/
It sounds like the reality is that she will always be single forever, she can't get an older boyfriend IRL, that Eric guy stopped any chances of that happening. She isn't attracted to guys her age, and when she's 18 she's going to start showing her body off to the world. No man would ever want her. Maybe she'll get a job at McDonald's with that other couple here


 >>/117059/
You're asking pedrophiles to stop being pedrophiles. I wouldn't touch this girl with a 1000 foot pole, personally, but the people who would are posting here BECAUSE she's underage, not in spite of it. The older she gets the less they will like her. Sad.




 >>/117099/
> she can petition for emancipation at 16 in her state
With her parents permission. I sincerely doubt they will allow that.
> age of consent is 16 in her state too so
The age of consent only applies to couples within a certain age range. She will still not be able to have sex with the age group she wants.

"If the older individual holds a relationship (as defined by RCW 9A.44.010) with the 16- or 17-year-old and is at least 4 years older, and abuses this relationship to engage in sexual intercourse, it is considered a crime."

There is also no romeo and juliet law. Because there is no such "Romeo and Juliet law" in her state, it is possible for two individuals both the age of 16 or under who willingly engage in intercourse to both be prosecuted for statutory rape. Similarly, no protections are reserved for sexual relations in which one participant is a 15 year old and the second is a 16 or 17 year old.




She already sold nudes at 14 or YOUNGER, its horrible but her life is already ruined. I'd feel bad for her if she wasn't so obviously pandering to and enabling the pedrophiles who chase her.

 >>/117109/
What future? Her career as a CEO of NASA?  >>/117113/ is right in that she probably sold nudes so why change anything? If anything she should try to branch out to something creative like art or music. I remember a Japanese girl in 2013 who started as a gravure model to gain popularity but then started doing art/streaming/music. If she doesn't she'll end up a one-trick whore only good for one thing.

What I still don't understand is how do people like this girl enough to give her 2000 in gifts even after everything that's happened. What does she do? Just exist?




 >>/117128/
> living alone
She can't live alone at 16. No hotel, motel or airbnb will give any kind of room and board to an under 18. She'd also need to be 21 years or older to rent a car.
> if she makes their lives a living hell they will
No she's more likely to end up institutionalized or in juvenile facilities, there's absolutely no way they'd let a girl who menaces her parents emancipate.




















 >>/117246/
 >>/117249/
What's with every single egirl making a letterboxd with the same few movies on it? Is it literally just because they see Ken getting positive attention for her letterboxd and think the same will happen for them? Doesn't really work considering Ken's so obscure and this is basic bitch normie shit. What's the point in making a letterboxd if you've only seen 8 movies you could rate?






 >>/117290/
Making a youtube or twitch makes sense, considering a lot of anons request this and it's how Agatha became known. Letterboxd on the other hand was exclusively a Kennedi thing, but not even what she was originally known for. She abandoned every account except letterboxd for years though and that's what orbiters talked about, so I imagine aspiring egirls saw that, misunderstood why everyone was fawning over her letterboxd, and think that rating a few shitty blockbusters will bring them just as much admiration.




 >>/117316/
Donutchan spotted. I know letterboxd is a big thing, but Ken was the only egirl to have a letterboxd and then Bee and all the others made accounts that they used for a day just to abandon them after realizing it wouldnt get them any more attention.

 >>/117319/
I was going to play devils advocate like this and say it looks like she's just using it to log movies, what it's made for. She probably started it because of the trend, yes. Nothing unique about the movies she's watched so far either. She doesn't seem like the obscure indie film movie buff


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