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I'm liking this warm weather this week although it does not feel like typical holiday temperatures at all. Is the same happening in Yurop? It's been close to 60 degrees Fahrenheit here the past week and a half or so

 >>/33582/
I dunno bout other parts of Urp, we begin a very cold December but that turned back to mild and now we have around 0 (in celsius), normal winter. But no sno. What was that melted. Probably we're gonna have a cold streak in January, and I'll file a complaint if the February will be mild again like last year.








 >>/33621/
1. Hungary, 2. Hungary, 3. Hungary, 4. Hungary
Just kidding.
First looks like Tatra for example in Northern Hungary.
Fourth: Mongolia
Second and third, wouldn't even dare to guess. I'm pretty sure neither Hungary nor Netherlands... but that still leaves a bunch of possibilities.
Tho, the third maybe is on the Balkans. Maybe Grease. Or in Italy, Sicily.
Huh, second one could be in the Mediterranean. Spain, Portugal? So I dared to guess in the end.

 >>/33622/
First is Obersalzberg in Germany. 
Second is somewhere in southern Greenland (so far from the Mediterranean)
Third is in western Georgia (Caucasus not the one in America).  
Fourth is in Kyrgyzstan (so close enough to Mongolia)





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Not a long but a pleasant walk. Except the northern wind wanted to freeze off my heda no matter of hat and hoodie and scarf and stern expression. Nothing interesting happened if not for the weird weather.
#1. This shit there ain't snow. These days we have foggy weather but with minuses so the vapor froze onto the vegetation. Now the sun is shining and the wind blew all the frozen fog off the trees and bushes as if snowing.
#2. The whole forest was white and shiny in the sun. Tried to take a good photo but didn't werk toward the sun. But something like this.
#3. Then turned around (well a couple of dozen meters further), away from the sun and everything looked like this, as if there were nothing on the trees.

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Today was a first day when with real snow here, but this year it happened only few times in December and melted quickly. 

It is still higher than zero, so it will melt in few days, but at least it looks like winder. Such global warming, how dare it.

I've had some personal tasks in the neighborhood (like going to bank and shop), so I decided to not touch the car and walk on foot.

(technically, it isn't real outdoors, but whatever).

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 >>/33972/

1 - the oldest building in this district (1938)
2 - the famous Russian Post with some shops. Just an example of typical landscape in districts with 70-s buildings.
3 - typical old-style school
4 - another school (or kindergarten, can't remember)


 >>/33972/
Well, it's out of your door...
> 1st pic
Is that ancient Slavic castle with mammoths and spaceships?

 >>/33973/
> Pushkin
I see library is available for everyone from all social classes. Literature is important. And they serve refreshments there too...

 >>/33974/
Could be worse. But the contrast between the decoration and the building and the general commieblock and socreal buildings makes it absurd.
> woman with kid in barrel
That's Diogene with the little Diogenes.

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 >>/33979/
> Is that ancient Slavic castle with mammoths and spaceships?

It is local Kremlin. I didn't check if Putin is inside though, but didn't seen any Lenin's body around. Maybe snow covered it.

> I see library is available for everyone from all social classes. Literature is important. And they serve refreshments there too...

They serve literacy in liters, the best packaging.


This week I decided one afternoon to visit a nearby village. "Nearby" in relative terms because it took me three whole hours just to walk there. Not much to see on most of the way, just the city's welcome sign, buildings becoming sparser, lampposts coming to an end and roadside farmhouses giving way to houses in the middle of the valley which disappear as the valley narrows down until there's just the asphalt with forested hills on both sides. Then a right turn and an altitude drop with the landscape widening letting me see far away into my target and beyond, but it still takes a while to get there. Upon arrival there's not much, just a church, a school, a tiny clothing store and a few homes. One of them houses my high school English teacher. She wasn't at home but I got to refill my flask there.
On the way back I got to feel the delightful summer sunset. Right at the beginning, because I set out fairly late in the afternoon. I then had to leg a couple hours in a pitch black highway. It was worse in the more remote section as the trees didn't let even the Moon and stars light the path, all I had for reference were car lights, but later I could see the city's red glare in the clouds and there was light from houses. Barking dogs were a nuisance but at least homeowners beside the highway leave their gates closed. I tried to save time by running and found the new soles I bought for my boots don't fit well and run towards the finger end when under rapid movement. The last section between the city entrance and home felt like forever. By the end my feet felt like a wreck. I had just spent six full hours walking almost nonstop, I didn't sit down even in my destination. 
It was definitively worth it.



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I don't have many photos. In fact only these four. We were too engaged in talking about life and shit to notice interesting details in the landscape. Tho I saw a long stretching patch of pines where I should return (even tho I need a similar day hike for that).
The frost on the vegetation was nice, as always but fog limited our vision. Found some mistletoe, this one was nice round ball. Can you tell I took the photo from the south? I can't. The foggy background is just too bright.


 >>/34251/
Yes. We have misty weather with minuses for weeks now. Only a couple of days were with sunshine, which did some melting around, but by the the afternoon all the freed up moisture evaporated and turned into fog. Which again started froze onto the vegetation.
I saw a long flexible frost-thread hanging from a branch in the garden. Next day it was sunny weather and I saw that it was a hair of me moms caught by the branch, that gathered the frost there.

Oh. One notable things happened, we heard a bird making noises, at first I mistook it with dog barking, but as I listened it became clear it isn't ofc, I could say it had vague resemblance to crow croaking. Two such bird was around. One lifted off from the trees and flew around. It was big but cannot make out any important detail, I couldn't even see colors, in front of the white sky it look just like a dark figure.





Today I planted the radish seeds. About 50 I think. I'm excited. We have three garlics from last year growing and the bear garlic is greening nicely. Lotsa stuff to do in the garden as we're going into spring. I have a plan for the cooking thread too. I hope it will work.



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haven't done one of these in a while. looks like the old thread is still alive but on autosäge ( >>/16734/). I made this trip last year and had the images laying around ever since.

1+2) me and suburban train leaving the railway station
3) surface for the cars, walkers have to go underground
4) getting to the old town


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German language differentiate between historical castles and call them "Burg" and chateau style buildings like Versaille and call them Schloss (or Schloß in Germany and Austria because they use ß instead of SS)

9) town hall
10) a Swiss fountain needs a little statue in the middle
11) regional police and court building in early Bauhaus style
12) castle in the back















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64) they did bake some medieval style bread for kids on the fire earlier that day
66) baby dragon
67) the Bernese bear emblem is everywhere, the castle and region were under Bernese rule until Napoleon created new Cantons







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89) I don't remember the
90) the castle was in private hands during the 19th century exchanging the owners after one died and their kids didn't want to keep the castle. so a rich burger bought it and thus the castle became American sort of.
91) chain mail to wear for visitors, which I did and yes it's really heavy






















 >>/37173/
What's "E"?
About what size that bed was?

 >>/37176/
And there's the horseshoe layout of the town.

 >>/37179/
That's MackieDee idea isn't too far fetched then.
Yes, they are heavy.

 >>/37183/
I liek that tree.

 >>/37185/
And how was that plate?

 >>/37187/
That well is just asking for a Habsburg stuffed down in it.
> mediaval elevato
It's clearly 12th century.

 >>/37188/
Nice Rittersaal. Too bad for that low ceiling, makes it feel a little cramped. 

 >>/37189/
> or you don't want to pay money for the entrance
Alternatively bring a ladder or a grappling hook.

 >>/37191/
 >>/37192/
Nice view. Next time bring a drone for aerial shots.


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Some random photos from few last weekend trips to dacha.

I've reanimated old bicycle with help of WD-40 and sometimes drive for some time when I'm tired of mowing grass or doing some unnecessary work.

3 - some house got fire few weeks ago. Locals say that owner tried to lit furnace first time from winter, steel chimney overheated and fire started. It was pretty expensive house, and looks like it must be razed completely now. At least fire didn't spread to houses nearby.
4 - an old ZIL that stays there forever.


 >>/37429/
> reanimated old bicycle
Is it a "mountain bike" type of "dacha-bike" (with wide seat and pedal break)?
> mowing grass or doing some unnecessary work.
Oh dog I'm doing this every day for months now. Some weeds started to grow which I really don't want among my lawn, but I only can exterminate them by pulling them out one by one. But as the grass grows around I don't want to thread on them and make it harder to cut. So I mow a little up to some weeds, then spend some time crouching and pulling those fuckers out, then mow a little further then crouching again. When I started my lower back wanted to kill me for a while.

 >>/37430/
Yeah, cats are good when prowling around, they keep away some pests, mice and rats.
> 3rd nice photo

Your well doing well?



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 >>/37486/
> Is it a "mountain bike" type of "dacha-bike" (with wide seat and pedal break)?

Classic old-style "dacha-bike". I never rode on any two-wheeled thing that has gearbox, and maybe never will, because buying new one while you have working one isn't a good way to spend money.

There actually few bikes here, one is my old almost-Soviet "Salut", others are from some distant relatives who often visited dacha in past. Of course all bikes are old, so dacha is alternative to dump for this. Sadly, my bike is still needs repairs - tires gone flat and I couldn't pump them, looks like air valve is broken (and it has so-called Dunlop valve, not typical car-style).

So I use some newer bike, it is slightly small for me, but still ok.

> Oh dog I'm doing this every day for months now. Some weeds started to grow which I really don't want among my lawn, but I only can exterminate them by pulling them out one by one. But as the grass grows around I don't want to thread on them and make it harder to cut.

I can't start to use my small lawnmower and still use electric trimmer - grass grows too fast and after a week it is already to big for lawnmower. I'm not into gardening though, so at least don't mess with specific weed removal, just trim everything except ones that look as cultured plant. And even this is a tiresome task.

> Your well doing well?

Yes, it still well. Older planks need replacement, but they will be ok at least for year. There are plenty of other problems, like septic tank that is used for sewage fill with water in rain, and looks like some heavy digging is required to find source of leak and replacement, so well will wait.






 >>/37532/
Yeah I enjoy it very much. Enjoyed. Today was hot, but at least the spring was spring and not summer.

 >>/37546/
I see. Is it on purpose?
No the protection of such sites from modification is quite strict.

 >>/37567/
The "Salut" looks like what we call a camping bike.

 >>/37569/
This.

 >>/37583/
If you don't practice. You never gonna be good.
It's gone. I think I waited too long to bump it. Also I kinda tired of bumping threads to the front.

 >>/37585/
Dacha is a place used on the weekends or on holidays, a hobby garden if you will. He can't keep a goat in commieblock when he isn't at the dacha.

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 >>/37567/

And here he is, almost in same place.

I didn't expect that these animals so blind. He didn't notice me while I standing still for long time, although started to slowly walk away when I finally moved. Do their spines really so protective in wild?


 >>/37826/
Look at that little dude there, must have found couple of tasty bits.
They are myopic as fugg, but I think they can hear fine. I dunno how resistant their spine is. Seen dog (largish mid sized, or smallish large sized) jumping on one and had no harm. Cars are too much for them.

 >>/37830/
That's sad. I also found one not far from here. Made the effort and buried it under a nice tree.

stole these pics from the local newspaper. I just saw a single rainbow outside after a heavy thunderstorm. But the LGBT community managed to put two of their symbols in the sky.









 >>/38004/
> In a double rainbow, a second arc is seen outside the primary arc, and has the order of its colours reversed, with red on the inner side of the arc. This is caused by the light being reflected twice on the inside of the droplet before leaving it.

 >>/38016/
nice bobble head dog. you can't use dashcams in court here for privacy reasons.

 >>/38017/
> Were was the herder?

A mystery. I guess owner is pretty reckless. I've seen smaller herd there long time ago, and herder also was away, but arrived after few minutes of car-goat confrontation. At least goats are pretty smart, they aren't cows.

 >>/38022/
> nice bobble head dog. 

The one and only thing that isn't "original" in car, because I mostly like simplicity. It is also a some kind of meme for me.

> you can't use dashcams in court here for privacy reasons.

That's sad. Yes, they aren't ok for privacy, it is true, but how you can prove that there is no cheating in car accident, like person jumping into stationary car or something like this? Or just an conflict situation when both sides thinking that they are right?

Maybe eSwitzini is populated by mostly honest people though (I personally think so, without joking).

 >>/38023/
Switzerland is home to many insurance companies and insurance companies for insurance companies. They know their way to evade paying. Like restaurants have an insurance in case of an epidemic happening, but insurances won't pay for the loss of revenue during the Corona lock down, because it's a pandemic, not an epidemic.




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So I took a stroll today. Well, most of it was quite rushed, but I wanted to get to a valley what I've never hiked along it's entirety before. Many of my photos are kinda blurry, and most have a green tint, resulting from the light shining through the lush vegetation. I tried to clear out this tint with GIMP, but I've no real good photos from the valley. The air was quite humid, maybe it added a little haze as well.
I thought the trail will be more clear but it was overgrown, I guess tourists rarely wander on that path. I had to battle with flies, mosquitoes, and those louse flies I talked in another thread about (Hippoboscidae). There weren't much to see down there. Along the valley the two ridges run about 200 meters higher, and two hills rise at least +150 meters above those. The banks are steep, rocky at many places. Due to the thick foliage the Sun was rarely scorching, but still was hot due to the lack of breeze.

Pics #1 and #2 - down at the bottom of the valley, where the path runs.
Pics #3 and #4 - the hillside.


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Upon one of the hills - I climbed finally - found some subjects for photos, on the ground this time. No plaguing green tint here.

#7 and #8 - These are fun guys. I've not yet identified them, and I might not bother. But look at that little dude climbing thorough that red hat in the right back.

#9 - Now this was a big guy, the stag beetle. I think it's threatened by extinction. I probed it carefully with a stick, to make sure it's alive, since was very still. But he was fine and dandy.
#10 - Scarabs were everywhere, probably getting of that good boar dung as much as they could. This fella shined particularly nice, first in very blue and then green, so I decided I take a photo of it. Well, at least something to post.

Well, that's about it I could share. From there I headed straight home and didn't give much consideration to my usual surroundings.


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 >>/38383/
> foliage
I think that's not the vegetation on the ground but the branches and leaves on the trees. To that effect the narrow valley with the steep hillsides added some with the trees adding layers and layers the Sun had to shine through.
At ground level there weren't bushes just herbaceous plants, nettles I recognized, others I didn't. Here's a zoomed out photo of that beech, it shows the undergrowth some.
Those four images aren't really representatives, the whole valley is about 4km in length and they show a selected points which offered more view.
> You forgot those.
Hory shit, I did. Here pics #9 and #10.


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 >>/38393/
Quite a variation was in tree sizes, the first pic here  >>/38386/ is kinda a good representation. In picrel here however we can see only fairly young trees. I would judge that fallen oak about 30-40 not long ago I counted - tried at least - an oak's rings, over double but probably not triple the size of that on the pic, was about 90-100, I've other basis for a guess, I know soft wood tends to be thicker, maybe even double. I think some parts of the hillsides were cut in whole back then, some was thinned out since then.
I passed two hazels, which were smaller tree sized, not shrubs, they were left grow quite for a while. Also many trees were fallen over, crossing the trail. Some were cleared, cut up like on the right in pic #2 here:  >>/38377/ From the rot of oaks, I'd estimate 4 years ago tops.
> Why is it here?
Mystery. There's something painted on it, but signs are painted on trees, from tourist trails to forestry borders I dunno what's the point to build something for that purpose. Not to mention rocks also can be used. Maybe they had to be exactly at that point, and other suitable surface might not be present.
Other mystery signposts are made of wood and they held by little mounds of soil or rocks. Close to the top is cut in a 7 figure (if you look at the post from the side it looks like that, as a triangle is cut out) and a number is painted on it. Sometimes the number doesn't make sense, seems random, all less than 100. But other places these posts are placed at every 10 m of elevation on a hillside, and the numbers follow this, from 1 to whatever. Once I searched a bit about it, but didn't put any effort into it, so no answer was found.
> larva for 5 years or such, and only few months in a last bug form.
I did not know that.


 >>/38377/
interesting to see a deciduous forest. A lot of forest in Switzerland have evergreen conifer trees, because foresters wanted trees that grow quickly. But they aren't adapted to the higher temperatures in the lower parts and can't withstand storms.


 >>/38401/
All of our conifers are populated. Not sure what was the intention, I know that some military installations were covered with them, it's something that Red Army planners brought. can't make aerial pictures of an area covered with evergreens in winter, can they.

 >>/38402/
Nah, that's the scarab rolling a dungball, nice and warm for their eggs.
> ticks
Oh yeah. Last week I found one near my armpit, it climbed me in the garden.
They are more frequent in darker, wetter, northerly hillsides and valleys tho, I don't like crossing the brush in those areas. On the other hand there's a meadow on a top of a hill not too far, looking south. It's dry and open. I laid there many times, just in the grass, never a got tick.

 >>/38386/
> I think that's not the vegetation on the ground but the branches and leaves on the trees
I mean tree density, by that alone it looks easier to walk than through the jungle.

 >>/38399/
> signs are painted on trees
Those probably last less and attract less attention.

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 >>/38405/
Well yes. Density depends on how that particular area fits in the forestry.
Some places are deliberately left untended, they can be tricky to pass through, in my experience those places don't have thick tall trees, even old trees are stunted, spreading along the ground, leaning much to a side.
Those which which are used for logging, they can cut them bare, or with a thinning out technique. Or a combination of the two: first they cut it clear, then as saplings grow they thin it out a little (these places are very thick with saplings), then years later again, then again, until they get a clean, open piece of forest with straight, tall, fairly thick trees.
Maybe I'll try to collect examples.


Found these liek two hours ago, and since then I was trying to identify them for a good while, even tho I found very quickly one species that looked very similar both on pictures and after written description. But I wanted to make sure, and by the end I landed at a different species that I begin with, but close relatives.
I believe what I found are two Agaricus brunneofibrillosus' or Agaricus haemorrhoidarius'.
Two obstacles prevented me from positive identification, and led me to check on such species liek Agaricus pantherina, just to make sure I don't make a mistake. These two obstacles were: the coloration of the gills, which remained whitish, when they should be pink, or reddish, the other is the smell, it didn't have much particular, but should have a characteristic anise or almond smell.
However looking closer the picture Bernd can see there is a little pinkish coloration in the stipe at the cap and the gills.
I cut up the larger one, and the gills reddened, and lo, the smell, while not too strong, but got that anise flavor. The bad news is, that one was too old, it seems was eaten inside by maggots.
Cut in half the other one to see how it held up, and that is still good. So tomorrow, I'm gonna feast on that one.
I also sought help from a friend who knows the species, and he can tell if I'm wrong. I expecting reply tomorrow.


 >>/38799/
Well, I didn't get a confirming reply, but he said if it is what we think it is, I should parboil it to soften the tissue.
So I sliced that smaller one up, parboiled it, and fried it in little olive oil, with salt and pepper. Tasted breddy gud. It was still a little chewy. If I get the shits tomorrow I won't I'm confident in my identification I know what to blame.

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 >>/38799/

Mushrooms can be pretty dangerous, especially because it is often not easy to distinguish toxic ones from edible, and there are plenty of variations. But consequences may be fatal, easily. Mushrooms also very good in accumulating everything from outside, including not so good components.

So, there is a simple rule: if you don't 100% sure that it is edible, don't even try.

For that reason I completely ignore Agarics (with laminaes on bottom side) and recommend to harvest only Boletes (with small tubes/pores on bottom) in our local region. There almost no toxic Boletes here that may be confused with edible, but plenty of confusing Agarics.

Of course it is only about forest mushrooms, shop-made are ok (at least I hope so).


 >>/38836/
I dared only to eat because it was very distinct. I checked all the parts, over and over and went through lists of poisonous mushrooms, 99% I discarded right away because were very different (like small thin, growing bunch at a spot, green, slimy etc.). I checked every property, and the combination of the characteristics fit only a couple of definitely edible ones.
I think the main problem is the variety of looks even inside a distinct species. For example coloration, which I had problems with.

 >>/38838/
My summer is ruined if the temperature goes over 30C. Which is all my summers, this one did not prove as an exception.


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every year there are more of them, they take away space at the beach and in the lake where I swim. the lake belongs to those who can swim and to the rich that can afford a real boat, not to the common plebs on these inflatable boards.


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I've had tourist/personal trip to Sankt-Petersburg (SPb) for 4 days, and here is some small IWO.

1. Bologoe train station. Some kind of symbolic place, because it is placed almost between SPb and Moscow.

2. View from hotel window (actually, it was a private flat available for daily rent). SPb is all about rivers and canals, some say that it is Russian Venice, but some say that it is just a swamp. But water is everywhere, at least in center.

3. Metro. Almost same as in Moscow, but some station are closed-style, have walls with doors between trains and platform. But this is common station.

4. That type of station, with doors.


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 >>/39624/

Compared to Moscow, historical center is well preserved, and it is pretty large. City is "new" (1703) and was build literally on swamp, with almost no previous dwellings. Most of these buildings are newer, but they still pretty old.

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 >>/39625/

1, 2 - classical "well-style courtyard", a place inside house block with one or two entries, closed from outside. These types of courtyards are stereotypical feature of SPb. They often not so shiny and beautiful as main streets.

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Vosstaniya square (площадь Восстания, literally Uprising Square). It is named after February Revolution (1917), because that square was a place of numerous demonstrations, protests and such.


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 >>/39628/

1, 2 - canals. There are plenty of them, we crossed 2 or 3 only in one km. Pretty beautiful view.

3. Some popular shop. Sadly, forgot it's name.

4. Gostiny Dvor - old historical building, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Gostiny_Dvor
Wiki says that it is "one of the first shopping arcades in the world"

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 >>/39629/

1. Some church, probably Armenian. Forgot.

2. Catholic church. We've went inside and sit on benches, but I didn't take any photos. I'm not a religious person, but thought that it would be a bad taste, especially when everyone around are very quiet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_St._Catherine_(Saint_Petersburg)
It is oldest catholic church in Russia. Pretty interesting place.

3. Kazan cathedral - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazan_Cathedral,_Saint_Petersburg

4. Water, again. Church at center was build on the place where emperor Alexander II was killed.

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 >>/39630/

1. Singer house (Singer as that company that made sewing machines), also "House of the Book". Famous book shop, pretty large and, of course, very historical. Had photos from inside but they all were bad, maybe because light.

2. View on Kazan cathedral from that house (top left - reflections of lamps).

3. Another historical church.

4. Water.



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 >>/39633/

Now not the canal, but real river. It is famous Neva, main SPb river.

2 - Palace bridge - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Bridge

4 - Peter and Paul fortress in the distance. It was too far for us to walk there at that evening.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_and_Paul_Fortress

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 >>/39634/

1, 2 - so called rostral columns, with ship-styled decoration.

4 - Saint Isaac cathedral - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Isaac%27s_Cathedral

It was too late to visit cathedral, but we could walk up to roof (you can visit museum and cathedral's roof). Bought tickets literally in two minutes until ticket office closed.







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 >>/39623/
Ah, an IWO! Nice!
> PROLETARSKAYA
Poor Pyotr Alekseevich is turning in his grave ever since.
> But water is everywhere
I thought that's just the normal way of public utilities on the Russia.
> tiny balding man turns valve off

 >>/39624/
Photos are sharp tho.
Who's the horseman?

 >>/39625/
I assume even as Leningrad they made effort of preservation of old tsarist buildings. Btw how about the Smolniy?

 >>/39626/
> 3rd pic
Typical Russian heda.
That 2017 bronze, Sun(?) wheel thing? What's that?

 >>/39627/
> indispensable star on the obelisk
Yeah, it's square dedicated to the revolution I can tell. Complex task dealing with the past for Russia and the other Soviet successor states. They have to reconcile periods clashing with each other. Well Baltic states can simplify things ofc by declaring things black and white, but when it's your own inheritance it's more complicated.

 >>/39628/
> 2nd pic
Is WECT the BEST?

 >>/39629/
> we
Congratulations, Bernd.
> Gostiny Dvor 
Just by the photo I could tell that's a market. Impressive.

 >>/39630/
> taking photos in church
Depends on the church. If it's a touristy place, it's ok (even in small chapels), otherwise maybe after asking the priest. If no priest at hand then no.
It's very easy to turn the attention inwards, churches are good place to think.
> Church at center was build on the place where emperor Alexander II was killed.
Jesus saves they say.

 >>/39633/
It's not big, people are just too small!
I told you, on the Russia everything is oversized.

 >>/39635/
 >>/39636/
That cathedral looks cozy with those lights. And not too oversized.

 >>/39638/
That's the Palace bridge?
First two shots are great.
Thanks Bernd, I enjoyed your report!
The looks, the styles of the building were quite familiar, reminds me of Budapest, minus hills. And more canals, generally scaled up streets and buildings, and more Cyrillic texts about.

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 >>/39645/
> I've heard of the Metro before. It's a pretty big and fancy place 

It is not that big as Moscow one, but still pretty large. It also has problems with water (surprising), so some lines were flooded years ago. It is also pretty deep because bridges are moveable and everything goes under river.

> Cozy. I'm getting really distinct "Amsterdam" vibes from this place

Peter visited Netherlands and studied there for some time. He made city by European standards and surely was inspired by Amsterdam too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Embassy_of_Peter_the_Great

> Fren

Peter also depicted with mad face on almost every portrait or statue. Maybe he really had that face?

 >>/39652/
> Since it was built on a swamp, did they put wooden poles in the ground like in venice?

Didn't see any but internet says so. There are thousands of wooden poles under many buildings.

 >>/39664/
> Who's the horseman?

Alexander Nevsky. Place called "Alexander Nevsky square", and it is also a starting point of Nevsky prospect. But Nevsky prospect named after river, not him as person.

> I assume even as Leningrad they made effort of preservation of old tsarist buildings. Btw how about the Smolniy?

SPb had less extensive buildup than Moscow in Soviet times, so most of historical center remains same. At least from outside, because internals of houses often completely changed. Smolny still exists as governor residence.

> That 2017 bronze, Sun(?) wheel thing? What's that?

Some kind of mark with different historical names of that street (Rozhdestvenskaya, Sovetskaya, Karetnaya). Street was reconstructed as pedestrian walk zone, there is also a statue of carriage (Kareta means carriage, coach) nearby.

> Yeah, it's square dedicated to the revolution I can tell. Complex task dealing with the past for Russia and the other Soviet successor states. They have to reconcile periods clashing with each other.

Soviet propaganda was pretty effective, so most of people ok with stars and hammer-and-sickles today, and there is pretty small amount of people who really care about anti-bolshevik movement. I guess it is less controversial thing than in Baltic states or Eastern Europe, where all these things were forced from "outside".

> Is WECT the BEST?

At least WECT doesn't use such horrible transliteration ("trevel" from travel).

>  >we
> Congratulations, Bernd.

Thanks

> Depends on the church. If it's a touristy place, it's ok (even in small chapels), otherwise maybe after asking the priest

It was working church, not museum (compared to Isaac cathedral that is mostly a museum). I tried to find anyone doing photos but everyone just quietly sit on benches or slowly walking. Although most of them were tourists of course.

> That cathedral looks cozy with those lights. And not too oversized.

I visited it long time ago (I was in SPb in early 2000s with school tour last time), and remember that inside it is pretty monumental and also feels big and tall.

> That's the Palace bridge?

No, it is another day, and not historical part of city - just a place near "hotel" in typical SPb district. Bridge is also "new", it is made in 1936 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodarsky_Bridge

 >>/39666/
> Maybe he really had that face?
He felt he had a mission, and was obsessed with it (I'm curious if he doubted himself sometimes), maybe statues try to reflect that. Or maybe he really just looked like a creep irl.

 >>/39652/
I guess one could say during the Great Northern war tsar Peter put many Poles in the ground. And even more Swedes, Russians and Ottomans.

 >>/39666/
Peter again: how many portrait/statues/art work were ordered by himself and how many by the posterity? And which? The previous group would reflect his taste, the second how others remember him. Portrait type representations were idealized, "prittied", so making these "mad faces" is quite surprising.


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> Or maybe he really just looked like a creep irl.

He also had somewhat crazy personality, had some energy etc. And also urinary tract problems in late times that gave him constant pain. So, maybe he really looked like this.

 >>/39673/

Yes, maybe his image influenced his depictions in art, especially in late art where he has image of great emperor who reformed Russia.

 >>/39678/
> I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard or read it but basically the building of st petersburg was a freemasonic endeavour. I will try and find the source.

Of course Peter had some masonic/secret society influence. It was trend to join some society in these times for common aristocrat. His close friends (often a foreigners on Russian service) like Jacob Bruce (known as "wizard" in folk knowledge) or Franz Lefort (allegedly freemason) were into these things.

Although SPb had plenty of strategic purposes without these theories, but Peter surely had image of some ideal city in his mind, and his mind had these influences.

Also fun thing that foreigners rarely know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_All-Joking,_All-Drunken_Synod_of_Fools_and_Jesters

 >>/39689/
Masons also liked to win over rulers so they could list some big names among themselves. Also could ask for favors.
> Synod
Sounds like those uni/college frat thingies in American movies and tv-shows.
History is full of absurd stuff people did but we barely know anything about those, or we think it was normal and don't get the joke.

What other places worth to visit in Russia? Just like the US, Russia also has breddy nice scenery due to great variety of nature. But cities and towns?

 >>/39710/
> Sounds like those uni/college frat thingies in American movies and tv-shows.

Yes. At least it looks like a thing when young people have fun. Peter was contrarian when he was young, he survived attempt of military overturn, and also was just a nervous person as contemporary sources say.

> What other places worth to visit in Russia? Just like the US, Russia also has breddy nice scenery due to great variety of nature. But cities and towns?

There are plenty of old historical cities in center of Russia, even specific route called "Golden Ring" exists. Although these cities are mostly small and their historical parts are tiny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ring_of_Russia

Considering big cities, there is Kazan in Tatarstan, also known tourist location (maybe not that famous as Moscow and SPb). Southern cities (Rostov, Krasnodar) aren't too historical and less interesting, cities beyond Urals aren't considered as tourist destinations at all.

It also depends on what do you want from trip. Every large city has plenty of local museums, even if there is no rich history or such.



 >>/39631/
2nd wouldn't feel out of place in Washington D.C.
 >>/39632/
The General Staff's arches are the most eye-catching. Specifically the way the first one spans over a curve.
 >>/39635/
Something oriental about the columns from afar.
 >>/39666/
This was the very first thing I ever read about him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_army_of_Peter_the_Great


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Found these in the garden. Bunch if remained but they are small like the two smallest ones. Those btw I only picked because they just turned out from the soil as I moved the vegetation around them to make picture.
If I can identify them successfully and they are edible I'm gonna let them grow some before picking. If not, maybe I'll remove all, we don't need them to be there, especially if they're poisonous.
At first glance they resemble to the agarics one can buy in shops, I think those are agaricus campestris. Except those have darker lamellas or how those are called, the underside of the cap where the spores grow.



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I'm positive it's Agaricus campestris.
There's a couple of mushrooms it can be mistaken:
1. Amanita phalloides, but the gills are white and it has a volva at the base;
2. Agaricus xanthoderma, but that one should have funny smell, and the stipe/stalk turns to yellow quick when wounded.

Heh, I found an Agaricus bernardii.


 >>/40473/
Most inedibles aren't poisonous just aren't food, no nourishment and/or impossible to eat.
Some poisonous one needs to eat a lot to kill, in this area just a couple which a real threat.
I dunno, identifying them doesn't seem too hard if one sticks to a couple of edibles, just should know the resembling poisonous' and what's the difference. For example as Rusbernd told above  >>/38836/ , he sticks with Boletes. I've no problem with Agarics because hereabout they have some great species (Macrolepiota procera for the win), just keep an eye on Amanita pantherina and the phalloides (especially on this).
In the woods most of the time I don't see at all or just very few. Sometimes a lot but most they don't resemble anything I would recognize. Maybe I should take photos and identify them systematically.




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/myc/ - mycology
Let's identify mushrooms. Hopefully occasionally gonna post this stuff.
Mushrooms have several traits to identify them.
First the appearance. They consist of:
- cap
- hymenium is the underside of the cap where sores grow, can be gills, sponge, internal (eg. puffballs), etc.
- stalk (or stipe)
- annulus is a collar around the stipe, remains of a partial veil
- volva is like a boot or a sock at the base of the stipe, remains of a universal veil
The aforementioned veils are membranes which cover the gills (partial) or the whole mushroom (universal) at younger age.
There are other physical characteristics:
- spore color
- smell
- taste (well obviously don't eat what you couldn't identify, but still it's a trait)
- bruising, changing in color when touched, injured
Beside two more important factor that might help:
- habitat
- time of year

From the little XP I got from researching these two  >>/38799/  >>/40440/ I know it is useful to remember species with close resemblance to each other, and ask X inedible/poisonous species has Y and Z characteristics, are these present on the one I want to identify?
Here's a publication that list similar pairs. It's in Hungarian, but next to the picture it gives the name in Latin, so perhaps could prove useful even for foreigner. The association which compiled this little pdf has a great online database of mushrooms with good description and great photos. However for the identification process it isn't convenient to use, so first other sources needed, then when the possibilities are narrowed down, only then it's useful for confirmation.







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Cont.

When identifying a mushroom a certain order is the most convenient to follow.
First, even before we would see a mushroom we are probably aware the current date more or less, so we could know to some extend what kinds of mushroom we can come across. Then the surroundings can tightening the circle of possibilities. Are we walking in a meadow, or among trees? Are those trees conifers, or deciduous? Damp or dry? Sunny or shaded?
And when we find a nice toadstool the most visible part will be the cap. And that can tell a lot without even looking below. The shape, the colour, the texture, the edge of the cap. Does it have those little white fluffs that so characteristic to certain species (among them the picrel fly agaric)? Those thingies aren't part of the cap, but the remnants of a universal veil - some mushrooms have spots which are really part of the coloration of the cap. Is the cap slimy? Dry? Silky? It all matters.


 >>/40540/
> Ok but can you eat that 3rd picrel mushroom though?
Yes. And not just in the way that "every mushroom can be eaten once", but by default can be eaten raw, this makes the consumer drunk/high (in large quantities, liek eating 12+ can kill) however, or parboil it once or twice because the agents in that species are water soluble, then can be used for cooking without the intoxicating effect.

> Simple as
It really is.

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Next easily observable part is the stipe or stalk.
Again shape and size can give directions. Is it robust, or maybe flimsy? Thicker at the base? How about the color? White, red, brown, or something else? The texture is scaly like a snake's skin, or smooth, perhaps covered in hairs?
How about the remnants of veils? The annulus around the stalk like a ring or collar. It can take variety of looks, can be droopy, thin, some has considerable density. How high is it on the stem? Beware on some mushrooms with time they can disappear with age. They also can leave behind a light spore print, most of the time very hard to see, but can be significant when id. How about the remnants of the universal veil - we noted them when talked about the caps -, the volva at the base of the stipe. If you can't see it, that doesn't mean it isn't there...
So now we should remove specimen. Gently not to make some important traits disappear. It's better to remove it in full them cut the stipe so we can see what's going on below the fallen leaves or grass or maybe even the soil covering the base. Now we really can see if it has a volva or not.
There is a third type of veil, the cortina, it is the same place where the annulus should be and resembles to spider web, and it's strains between the edge of the cup and the stipe.
And a fourth veil is a variation of the universal veil, which basically a slime covering the whole mushrooms. I doubt I would pick one looks like that. Are those species even edible?
Anyway we should take a look at the base again after we removed from the soil, because the roots, called rhizomorphs, or more simply rhizomes, also a trait that can help id.
And again just like the cap, does it bruise? Poke it, cut it, and watch of discoloration.


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Now that we picked the mushroom we can see easier under the cap, don't need to make us comfortable down in the dirt just to take a look. Hey maybe a mirror could be used, gonna make a note.
Hymenium could take a couple of forms, gills, sponge, teeth, internal (of the puffballs), gel, and some species' cap forms a cup and grow the spores on the inner surface of it.
Gills come in wide variety. Not just their spacing is important, but how they join to the stem, if at all. Sometimes they have to be cut in half to see exactly how they attach.
Quite curiously the delicious Chanterelles have false gills, ridged on the lower side of the cup and running on the stipe. A type of mushroom looks very similar to these species, it has true gills however.



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I'm scraping it from the internet. From what I can tell, books have the same information. For now I'm trying to make a summary how to go about identifying a mushroom, what steps to follow, while get to know mushrooms a little better. Maybe it could help others, but chiefly for my own benefit.
This can't be used in itself for id ofc, at least a small book is needed with the exact description of the most common mushrooms of the area to compare the findings to something. And even a large book with lotsa info might not help in certain cases (and then that particular mushroom should be left alone). Depending on memory (and chances to practice) it may take a while to learn enough. Best to stick to a few species in the beginning, that shouldn't be hard.

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Garden findings again. Raining all week and these started to cover a patch. They ain't big but numerous. The cap feels slimy, it left the mark on the paper towel. Now they stick to it.
Can't really find that fits the description, many are similar however, quite a few not just inedible but poisonous. Tomorrow gonna try again.

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What's missing from the list of identification traits (good chance with others) is the growth habit.What's missing from the list of identification traits (good chance with others) is the growth habit. Three types:
- singles
- gregarious or troops
- clusters
Picrel found in garden illustrates the cluster type - yet to identify -, they grow out of one base. The gregarious also means growing in group but the stipes have their own origins and they stand a bit further apart, toadstools growin in fairy rings belong here (we call these witch circles, wiches came here to eat fly agaric to fly). Singles are self explanatory.





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Had my Xmas stroll. The weather was dull, and not good for photographing, and I went through those parts of the woods I usually go, but I wanted to bring back a couple of shots. Not much interesting.
Still found mushrooms, no idea what are they, back in November saw lot of these.
What's in that hole? We'll never know.

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Passed through different micro-biomes with different combination of vegetation.
Then here's these ball thingy. I've no idea what tree produces that fruit. I see them here and there, but never bothered to look it ip. Since they look spiky, they remind me of chestnuts but they aren't. Cut one open to see what's inside.
On the ground there are oak and hornbeam leaves, and a third one I don't recognize. Probably that's our winner.






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Was conflicted a little where to post these, but fit here the best.
The photos are from this article:
https://index.hu/nagykep/2019/11/01/festmenyszeru_szikes_alfoldi_taj_az_ev_hazai_dronfotoja/
They were made for a drone photo contest. Drones are hot topic on Index, a new law is inbound or perhaps is already enacted, they are getting heavily regulated, maybe gonna write a little about the suspected reasons later.
I'm gonna try to give context for the pics, but I can only write what the article provides, most only have the title.

#1. "Golden tree" - salt-affected soil on the Great Plains, around a drying river. The yellow area is due to the algae of the riverbed.
#2. "Tarn" - in Hungarian we call that type of lake "sea eye"
#3. "Buffalos" - in a buffalo reserve
#4. "Receding winter" - looks like reed on the shore of a lake, with protruding piers




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Took a stroll today. "Stroll" was long enough maybe not the length, but in time for sure. I got tired.
These weeks we had shitty weather, above 0, with rain, the soil became soggy. Then snow came and sudden cold, they promised ~15C here for the nights and -3-5 for the days. It wasn't that cold however, was borderline melting. The snow insulated the earth anyway and the mud remained under the 10-20 cm of snow (depending on the wind). Which meant not just muscling through the snow but slipping in the mud as well.
Mostly I followed roads and tourist trails, but certain places large puddles with thin ice, and trickling water made me slalom around. At one place at length forestry trucks plowed the loose soil, engraving it with deep wheel tracks, which then gathered water. These were also treacherous since their thin ice were often covered by the snow. So there I was hiked among the trees and the thicket. That was actually nice.



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Let's continue with my snowy IWO.
From these four pic maybe the last one is worth more interest, the rest is an illustration of what kind of landscape I strode through.
So the last pic was on the roadside, a boar turned over the leaf coverage of the ground. There were long lines in the snow all around where he rooted up whatever he looked for. I assume it searched for acorns below the oaks.

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The second one is a tiny temporary brook running on the trail. Quite a few were about, many looked very clear and clean, the dirt and mud already washed away running over gravel. At some places ice covered the top and snow, waiting to drench a boot after a careless step.
That's about this trip.

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A micro IWO. Moscow had record-setting snow from Friday (record of 1973 was beaten). Transport system collapsed as always. But whatever, I've did some walking into historical park nearby, former royal residence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolomenskoye), because it is can be reached on foot in adequate time.

1 - driving somewhere wasn't an option anyway (photo just for displaying snow amount).
2 - benches in the park (also mostly covered)
3 - typical landscape
4 - main historical landmark of that place - church of Ascension, built in 1532, UNESCO something-something etc. Featured even in some historical textbooks, it is famous for rare tent-shaped style, and was built by some Italian architect (as many buildings of that age in Muscovy). Some legends say that it was build to celebrate Ivan Grozny birth, but it is debatable. Church is almost always closed, for repairs or something else.

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1 - church of Saint George, 16th century.
2 - park gates (19th century or such). They are located inside the park, wall mostly removed, but gates stand still.
3 - that St. George church (1), another entrance
4 - view from other side

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1 - lower entrance of Ascension church. It wasn't easy to reach that place in snow.
2 - one of the arches of that church, view from other angle
3 - bell tower of St.George church
4 - water tower, 17th century

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And last ones.

1 - Moscow river
2 - It is full of ducks near park. Visitors feed them, so ducks are happy and fat. I didn't seen ducks in such amount anywhere except as here.
3 - Some man feeding ducks
4 - Feed box for birds nearby. Occupied by sparrows and tits (do English-speakers ok with that bird name?).

 >>/42586/
That is a lot of sno. When I was a child we had such once or twice.
> Transport system collapsed as always.
We have that. 2cm snow falls then everything goes to hui, news outlets talk about catastrophic weather conditions, service providers announce the bad weather came unexpected. Every year.
Were those benches cleared? Or the wind blew then clean?

 >>/42587/
I like the composition of the 4th pic.

 >>/42588/
Cozy.

 >>/42589/
Everyone loves tits.




 >>/42593/
> We have that. 2cm snow falls then everything goes to hui, news outlets talk about catastrophic weather conditions, service providers announce the bad weather came unexpected. Every year.

It also same there, snow always came unexpected (in Russia, yes). Although this time it was really large amount of snow, so collapse is justified. Public transit that not use roads (trams, trains) is ok though.

Situation was especially surprising because last winter was almost snowless, and previous ones were mild.

> Were those benches cleared? Or the wind blew then clean?

Heavy wind. Without it there would be ever more snow.

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> Situation was especially surprising because last winter was almost snowless, and previous ones were mild.
I follow that Danish man's channel, Lars of Survival Russia, he lives towards the Ural NE from Moscow, this year they got snow bout hip high, the last one with such height was 4-5 years ago I think. Gonna check, I think his channel is going on for 8 years now or something.



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Mushroom season is starting now that the snow disappeared (various tinder fungi and similars are present all year ofc). The early species started to grow. Very few of them resemble to the idea of mushroom, but some of them are edible.
Couple days ago found these as I tramped in the woods for a couple of hours, these are Sarcoscypha coccineas or scarlet cups. I see they prefer the freshly melting rotten sticks and bits of wood laying about. They also disappear fast they can only be gathered in the early months, February and March. But I guess it depends on the weather.
While they are edible my sources say they don't taste anything and since they are tiny, like a finger wide, and have little meat on them it doesn't really worth gathering them. So no taste test.

Soon the first "normal" toadstool will grow the Agaricus bisporus, which is very similar to the campestris one can buy in groceries. I wonder if I can find some, at least for a /kc/ post. There are a couple of oldtimers who range the woods for mushrooms, they are tough competitors.

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Golden jelly fungus (Tremella mesenterica). Probably from that rotting branch, since they grow on those, supposedly parasiting on a wood decay Peniophoras.
Hungarian mushroom ID sites categorize them as inedible - although not poisonous, simply it's just ha no culinary value -, but Wikipee says Chinese put it into soups. Well Chinese eat cats and whatever too so, maybe if the situation forced onto me, I would consider eating them.

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Built a new fireplace in the garden. Call it an experiment. I hope it will help with the strong winds blowing these years.
It should work on the principle of the Dakota fire hole. Can't promise I'm gonna cook with my dirty socks over the bogrács like on first pic however. It is also larger so I won't need to feed it with tiny sticks constantly. But will need more processing of the firewood. Or maybe not, it's possible I could shove longer branches into it, their ends sticking out. Will see, needs some testing.
I have also reservations due to the leakage, rainwater collecting in there. I could cover it, but through the walls it still would leak.


 >>/43084/
With bellows and enough charcoal it just might be possible. But I think that vent is too wide for a bellows, probably could place there a pipe.
At night is still around 0 btw.

I'm thinking how I'm gonna use the bogrács. I could hang it from a tripod. Previously the flames tickled the legs of the tripod, made it sooty and maybe charred them a bit, now they would be surely safe. But I could stand three bricks there and place the pot onto them. The problem with this is that the butt of the pot isn't flat, so harder to securely put it down, also if I'm not careful I could bang it to them harder which would damage the enamel.



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I could take a better photo on the inside. Take into consideration two things:
1. this is a garden, most of it was dug, turned over, enriched;
2. that particular place was used to make fire, ashes and coals was mixed there.
About the bottom I reached soil fine, smooth enough to call it clay. Actually it is quite fine. I considered to dig up some and smear the walls of the pit over with it. But then the bottom would be lower then the opening of the vent. And that should be as close to the bottom as possible.


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Yesterday was walkin around some, wasn't sure if I was gonna photo anything, many flowers but not so interesting. But then I came across:
#1. This fella here. What an absolutely splendid looking little shitkneader! So took some pictures of it then went on. But it wasn't the only one I met, as fate (and nature) ordered. Here's an album of them.
#2. This one just hit the jackpot it seems.
#3. Out on the dry, struggling forward with 10 metres/hour speed, searching for a handful of poop.
#4. I came across them fairly far from each other mostly in different micro-bioms. The previous ones were inside deciduous forest, this out in an open meadow.

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#5. Patient dung beetle is patient.
#6. The Last of the Dung Beetles. This one was among conifers.
Maded couple of videos for my niggas.
First I just turned around to scan the surroundings. The most uncharacteristic place I possible can find. It is also secluded, forestry workers travel through liek once in ten years, and me wandering.
The second is an anthill - if Bernd couldn't tell - there were several in that area, larger ones too, but this one I could make an acceptable-ish video. It seems it was destroyed previously, they are usually nice convex bumps, but this one looks liek it took a couple of hits. Look at that swarming.

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Heya Bernds, It's been a while. I'm the catalan who did that thread about the protests.

Anyhow, last week I went to the turó de l'home with some friends. it was pretty nice to finally go hiking afther all this time.
We wanted to go again this weekend but they prohibitet leaving the Comarca so it seems we'll have to wait untill at least the 19th to go again






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 >>/43303/
Awesome. Thanks.

 >>/43303/
To reply in earnest.
We don't have mountains at the moment, our highest peak is 1014m... We has some scenic rolling hills, but where I live there's not many places with views, where I go on foot just a couple and they just might be characteristic enough to close down on my location and I'm paranoid a bit...
So most of the peaks, even the highest ones are covered with trees, so the results of photos would be similar wall of trees like on my video here  >>/43290/ which I made on a ridge basically.
I googled some photos. Around I live, it's like the first three. Most of the country looks like #4.

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Today I was cleaning bike after storage during winter so I can go on rides later.
I had odd feelings cleaning the chain since the rag I used has been my shirt for 15 years… now it's finally time to say good bye.
You served me well.



 >>/43400/
> top of a rollercoaster in the Netherlands
One of the highest places on the Netherlands.
> only the fog
I guess the closeness of the sea. We don't have seashores either anymore.

I'm thinking maybe gonna try to scavenge photos of our "mountain" ranges, like 12 we have, divided into two groups, and a separate lonely. We'll see.




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Visited a Catholic cathedral, biggest one in Russia (and maybe "main" one). Not for religious purposes, but for some classic music concert, mostly for pipe organ that they have.

It is pretty interesting to find such foreign building in Russia, where Catholic temples are very rare, especially considering that cathedral was built in neogothic style.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_the_Immaculate_Conception_(Moscow)

Concert was good, although compositions were unknown for me (they announced Bach, Handel and Debussy, but I couldn't remember any melody). I'm not serious classic music listener though, so maybe don't understand something anyway.It wasn't an orchestra, but harp, flute, violin and pipe organ, sometimes only two instruments played at once.

1, 2 - outside view. It was raining and cold.
3, 4 - inside.





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 >>/43830/

1 - another plate, about Christ and Mary
2 - two memorial plates left one for the Polish Pope Paul II, who helped to reconstruct the building after USSR fell. Right one is about second consecration of that building, mentions some Italian cardinal.
4 - sculpture outside



 >>/43826/
> Catholic
How heretic.
> classic music concert, mostly for pipe organ
Patrician. Good for you, Bernd.

Quite new temple I see.
> Reconstructed by the Soviets for civil purposes, 1956
They waited quite long with that.

 >>/43829/
> last pic
I really would like to see how light shines through those windows.
Who are the saints below, you remember?

 >>/43830/
Did not know harps have pedals. It's like as if they were out of box pianos. Well I guess some don't some do.

 >>/43831/
Hahh! I knew I spelled Papiez there!

 >>/43832/
Nice lights. It is usually a good choice to light up churches. Not in the Varg sense lighting.
That kot might be a witch. In my experience witches aren't bad or anything like that.

 >>/43833/
Quite pleasant. Thank you, Bernd.
Was it cold inside too?

 >>/43834/
> I really would like to see how light shines through those windows.

Sadly, it was not sunny evening, so windows were bleak.

> Who are the saints below, you remember?

No, forgot. I remember only those two on main side, Peter and Andrew.

> Did not know harps have pedals.

I've seen harp so close first time in my life, so didn't know about pedals either.

Pipe organ controls also pretty interesting. One was at back of the hall (not at altar), and it looked purely mechanical, with long wooden pedals and large keyboards. Second one was on scene - that one in video - and it is (I think) electric remote control. But organist played some compositions from back side, some from that front thing. Looks like there are differences in available sound range, i.e. electronic doesn't allow something that large mechanical allows. But then I don't understand why use electronic at all.

> Was it cold inside too?

It was slightly warmer, but relatively cool. Organizers said at official site multiple times, that cathedral isn't warm place, so beware.

These wooden benches are very uncomfortable too, even after hour my spine was not ok. I guess they are made like this to remind people about Christ sufferings.


 >>/43826/
Very nice, thanks for sharing. I love the sound of harp and pipe organ. The piece they played that you posted is quite popular so im surprised you said compositions were unknown for you. I mean I dont know the title or the composer but I know the melody lol. 

 >>/43834/
The ones below stained glass?
On the left is st. Augustine, next to him is st. Therese of of Lisieux but I cant find any icon like this so I'm just making a guess.

 >>/43837/
> The piece they played that you posted is quite popular so im surprised you said compositions were unknown for you.

This melody in video was one of several that I've recognized. Others were unknown (for me), maybe some parts were recognizable. Here is the video https://youtube.com/watch?v=-MP6IMVn22s (that one starts on 1:02)

 >>/43836/
> why some of your pictures have horrible aspect ratio but some are normal? 

You are observant person. Photos were taken from two phones, my phone and woman phone, and second phone has wide camera matrix with this stupid ratio (xiaomi redmi something).

 >>/43835/
> Sadly, it was not sunny evening, 
Too bad.
Also organs are wind instruments.
> benches
Originally there were no benches at all in churches. Plus, the priests held the sermons facing toward the altar and Christ (I think it's called the apse of the temple). One reason we can be sure so protestants are absolute dicks and their gatherings are political agitations. Or I would say if I wanted to be a dick myself.

 >>/43837/
Thanks. We should talk more religious stuff to involve you.

 >>/43839/
> We should talk more religious stuff to involve you.
Sure thing. 
> the priests held the sermons facing toward the altar and Christ
Uhh it wasnt exactly like this to my knowledge. There are parts of the liturgy priest faces the altar and parts he faces the faithful. Sermon is a part he's speaking to the faithful so he would face them obviously. You can see this if you go to the old rite mass or thats how it's done in Vatican basilica as well. 

Speaking of, did I share pictures of my trip to Rome with you guys? Im not sure if I did.

 >>/43841/
But they talked in Latin, and people did not understood the priests (very few peasants had Latin studies), so no reason to talk to them at all.
> did I share pictures of my trip to Rome with you guys? 
I don't think so you did. There was a Pole on the late Krautchan, or later on early Kohl, who cycled from Poland to Italy I'm not sure if he was in Rome, but I remember him visiting Florence for example.






 >>/43855/
Back in the day ferns ruled the world.

 >>/43856/
I imagine it would be useful to have a house where one's garden is. It's like a dacha. At least for nothing else just to store tools so they don't need to be brought all the time when work is needed to be done. Is it so unsafe there? Would people destroy the place or break in and stole the tools? Or maybe that place is some kind of "guerilla garden", they don't own the plot, but still cultivate it?

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Kinda look like it.

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Found about three dozens of Chlorophyllum rhacodes (shaggy parasol) today in the woods. They are all too young, they need to open and grow, their diameter can be as wide as a man's hand. I'm gonna make the time and check on them tomorrow, picking most could cover all my need for my occasional mushroomy soups (planning to dry them) for a year. I'm hoping noone will get them first.
I cut up one which was already chewed on by some animal, to make sure they are what I think they are.

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Brought three today, the rest was just too small. Tomorrow there will be lot more with proper size. The largest is about the size of my palm. More popped up, not much, but now I noticed the whole group is arranged in a large "witch circle" as we call it. Well, a half circle actually.
They all seem to be ridden with worms however, mainly the stipe from base to top, I had to discard that as a whole and the center of the cap too, considerable amount. This sucks balls. I can just hope that by tomorrow they won't infest the whole mushrooms I left there.
Today I also approached from another direction, and went to range further away, to see if elsewhere I can find something. Some lonely toadstools I found, but I did not recognize them, and they were mostly chewed up. Not even made photos.


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Brought five, and that will be all. Between my visits someone else was there and picked some, the rest was still to young or already eaten by animals, and I left a couple good ones to spread their spores. They'll be picked no doubt however.
Two of these were butifel, spotless, two I had to discard almost as a whole, they were maggot infested, only a couple of slices could be saved. The fifth was partially wormy, like the half of it was ok.
Some distance from these I found the brown ones and at home I spend considerable time to identify them unsuccessfully. I found three or four possibilities, edible and poisonous ones, neither description fit well, so in the end this will be a pass, I have to discard them. Shame because they smell really nice.

 >>/44874/
> Looks toxic
Nah, those are the same what I picked, just younger. The cap of what I cut up was mostly eaten by something, and the base of the stalk was worm ridden. If it was "healthy" (wormless) the white of the stem and the orange would look good in itself.
> it's good for some soups
I use them to upgrade instant ramen. I'm not really fond of "normal" mushroom soups. But now I'm thinking about cream mushroom soup, that would be neat. If I find more, maybe boletes, I'll maek some (never cooked that before).


 >>/44896/
> Don't know what to do with such amount.
Again. I remember discussing the same problem. Was ideas like giving them away.
They look good.
Make cider. Or get a pal who makes cider but limited access to apples. Uni students must have such projects going on.



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Picked these. The woods are kinda dry, most of the summer and autumn was without rain. I did found any more.
I don't know these, but based a quick search it seems they are most likely Macrolepiota mastoideas. Would make sense, in those areas oter Macrolepiotas can be found, most notable proceras, the parasol.
https://www.first-nature.com/fungi/macrolepiota-mastoidea.php

If it is, then it's edible. Found similar species inedible/toxic, but distinct enough to say that these aren't those.

 >>/45558/
Was so sure, I sliced one up (only the cap is edible), fried in butter with salt and pepper.
Burnt it a bit accidentally, so some bites were a bit bitter, but was all right. Very mild nutty flavor.
The other sliced it up and gonna let it dry.






 >>/47885/
Great view.
Can you find clay there? Could do some pottery. Firing pots is a bit tricky, never tried meself.

 >>/47886/
> jabuticaba
Are those parasites?
> well divided landscape
What plants are grown there. Are those brown patches tobacco?

I also have couple of photos, not yet went through if any worth to post.

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> Can you find clay there? Could do some pottery. Firing pots is a bit tricky, never tried meself.
It's very recent erosion and actually far away from any stream. The thin layer at the bottom of the "valleys" is probably sandy.

> Are those parasites?
That's what the flowers and fruit look like, they grow on the trunk itself. I love the flowers,they feel like a fluffy cushion covering the tree. I guess the fruit can be unsettling if you've never seen one. They're on most backyards. You might also barely notice they shed a lot of their own bark, just like eucalyptus.

> What plants are grown there. Are those brown patches tobacco?
No tobacco, the brown patches are probably old maize. Beans have been planted on the hill in the foreground, but they're not in the picture. Most of what's in the picture is for local markets.



 >>/47957/
Well, if it contains sugar, men will make alcohol out of it.
> papaya
Similar when I postpone cleaning the gutter out too long, sometimes wild grape grows from the gunk. Nature always finds the way.
Good photos.

 >>/47885/
> abandoned caterpillar.jpg

Is it too far away from civilization so remains almost intact?

Similar things here are dismantled to scrap pretty fast (it is mostly gypsy business and they doing it well, sometimes even too well so they take non-abandoned metal too).

 >>/47927/
> I guess the fruit can be unsettling if you've never seen one.

This. As far as I know, it is very hard to find similar trunk-based fruits in non-tropical regions, so first reaction is about parasites.

 >>/47973/
> Is it too far away from civilization so remains almost intact?
It's very close to the road and nearby homes but the area isn't densely populated.
> As far as I know, it is very hard to find similar trunk-based fruits in non-tropical regions, so first reaction is about parasites.
In person you'd notice the fruit are perfectly still.


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Fuckin ivy spreads like, uh, ivy. Needs a good cutting time to time. On rare occasions I find some interesting things among the twisting twines. Now a bird nest. That section I had to cut out sadly. So they can't use that anymore. Maybe I put it back somehow somewhere. I believe it was the nest of a pair of trushes.
We had a good strawberry harvest this year (earlier in May). Not really harvest since I was just out in the garden filling my stomach straight from the plants. It occurred to me back then to make a photo of a handful. Very nice colorful. Patriotic.

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I've again visited city known as Sankt-Peterburg few weeks ago, and got like thousand of photos from different museums and historical places. Posting everything wouldn't be good for that, so it is small IWO about Artillery Museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Historical_Museum_of_Artillery,_Engineers_and_Signal_Corps

It is historical building from 19th century that features large outdoor exhibition of artillery pieces and multiple indoor ones about different historical periods. Here are photos:

1. Overall partial view of courtyard
2, 3, 4. Old guns and mortars from all around the world. There are Prussian, Ottoman, Russian, English and other guns from 16-18th century. It was times when guns were rare and precious handmade things, so they often have good art style, not like modern industrial ones. Humanity surely has fallen.

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 >>/48498/

Most of courtyard is filled by relatively modern Soviet/Russian artillery though. I've photographed almost everything, but they are too similar to post them all, so there are random selection:

5. M-60 gun, from WW2
6. D-20 that is still used now.
7. 2B1 Oka - one of the last big guns in history. They were experimental ones and weren't produced much, because tactical missiles replaced them.
8. 2S7 Pion. A big gun too, and is still actively used.

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 >>/48499/

9. Giacint (hyacinth), towed one. People mostly know tracked version now.
10. The famous Tochka (point, dot) missile launcher with container. It's modernized version (Tochka-U) featured in all news today.
11. Different missile launchers in a row.

Courtyard also has tanks, SAM launchers and different engineering trucks. But I've moved to indoor exposition. Sadly, most of items are under glass and photos aren't so good because reflections, so there are only some:

12. Medieval armor.

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 >>/48500/

Indoor exhibition contains different halls for different epochs, from Napoleonic to and WW1. There are plenty of guns (of course). some dioramas and paintings, different rifles and swords. There were also relatively modern ones on other floors, but I didn't visit them that day.

13. Big shore gun.
14. Telegraph encoding machine.
15. Maxim machine gun
16. AA gun from WW1

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 >>/48501/

17. Fedorov's avtomat. One of first automatic rifles in the world.
18. Rare experimental steam gun from 1826. Was unsuccessful and never used.
19. Typical example of exposition: gun and paintings.
20. Diorama of Borodino battle, Raevsky redoubt.

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 >>/48502/

Forgot to resize 19 and 20, sorry.

As a bonus, some photos from other days:

21. Navy ship in Kronstadt (fortress island near Petersburg). Parts of port are closed for military, other are open for tourists.
22. Some kind of open exhibition there, called "patriot park". There are few pieces of sea-related equipment like small guns, old cruise missiles, small submarines etc. Ships on background are Navy ones parked on different pier. I don't know if they always stay there or arrived to fleet parade that happened in next few days (31st July, Navy day).
23. Kronstadt Naval Cathedral
24. View of the city center from Petropavlovsk fortress roofs.

That's all.

 >>/48498/
Interesting. It's sad to see so many guns and tanks kept outdoors like that but I guess that's normal and the guns are made form the same thing statues are anyway.

 >>/48502/
Interesting diorama but it's not accurate regarding French formations. People have the wrong idea about what a column was, the company itself did not move in a column, the companies followed one after another so that formed a kind of column . But it's limited by the size of the piece so they have to take liberties like that I guess.

 >>/48498/
Awesome. Now I'm jelly.
> 95mm pushki
That's a big pushki. Hungarian puska = rifle.

 >>/48499/
> Most of courtyard is filled by relatively modern Soviet/Russian artillery though
They take up more space by default than a bunch of guns which are essentially pipes.
> pic #6
That's a big mortar on the left.

 >>/48500/
> #11
The left vehicle: are those windshields painted green? The middle one seems to have metal sheet cover.
> 12
They should have put a mortar tube under his arm.

 >>/48501/
The shore defense cannons are always so fat.
Cool telegraph. I did not now they can have piano style claviature.

 >>/48502/
> 18
Now this is entirely new to me. Any info on how it should have worked?
> 20
Cool. I liek dioramas.

 >>/48503/
> 21
Slim and pretty.
> 24
That old ship looks like a frigate.

Thanks Bernd for the nice pics and sharing of the experience.


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 >>/48504/
> It's sad to see so many guns and tanks kept outdoors like that

These things are relatively weatherproof. Rust isn't big problem because metal is thick and may last for centuries, and guns wouldn't be used anyway. About bronze ones: as far as I know, this green oxide layer is good for preserving bronze.

Although main reason is "there is no other place to store them" of course. Especially when most of modern artillery isn't rare.

 >>/48507/
> That's a big mortar on the left.

It's M-240 mortar. Tracked version is known as Tulpan.

> The left vehicle: are those windshields painted green? 

It is metal sheet too. I guess it is used for museum purposes. Vehicle is Temp-S (NATO SS-12).

> Now this is entirely new to me. Any info on how it should have worked?

I also never knew about that thing. Here is photo of plate (in Russian though) - it says that spherical bullets were shot using water vapor pressure.  It could do 50 shots per second. But trials show that it was complex, big and unreliable.

English wiki article has a paragraph about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_cannon with not much info though.

> That old ship looks like a frigate.

It is replica of battleship "Poltava" (1712) built in 2018.

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 >>/48511/
> 50 shots per second.
Not bad. And it's quite large caliber too. But since it was a failure nothing matters.
Steam gun. What a concept. It would make sense to utilize it. It can move trains with many tons of cargo, why not propelling bullets?
> "Poltava" (1712)
Ah, a ship of the line. Very nice.

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I remembered that we have something similar. Turns out this military museum belongs to a private company, a metalworks. And the factory stands near Kecel in the middle of the Danube-Tisa interfluve.
The park's area 3 hectares (~30000 m2), besides the equipment they exhibit statues too. One of the buildings houses a small arms museum and a plastic models exhibition. Actually not sure all of em are plastic. I've never been here (I visited ZMNE however, it's uh, military uni basically, they also had some weaponry all about in the courtyard, way less numerous ofc, to my knowledge before that it also served as an army base with barracks for conscripts too), but the prices of entry tickets seem very reasonable, $5 for an adult.
Some more pics can be found here:
http://pintermuvek.hu/hadtechnikai-park/
I'll search the net for more. I'm sleepy as fuck now for that.

I think there is at least one more somewhere else.


 >>/48524/
> http://pintermuvek.hu/hadtechnikai-park/

They have nice site with language selector that didn't work.

Some Russians were there though: https://kerenmp.livejournal.com/349163.html (there are plenty of photos). Looks like collection is very large.

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 >>/48527/
> They have nice site with language selector that didn't work.
Sounds like Hungary all right. We speak inglish, germany and paruski.
Btw that company supposedly was the first (legal) private enterprise on the Hungary, founded in 1978.
They can afford a helicopter but not a site which isn't Wordpress, but has https (even tho they should have if they followed data protection laws).


 >>/48531/
> error message at the bottom
The web console is also full of stuff, mostly info about the no https, but some errors too.
> Cuz it's easy to install and use.
They probably payed couple of millions for it to some "webmaster" (that Addesign Solutions company...). Maybe from public money they gained vie some tender or something.
> t. used it before
A bit me too.
Have I spooked you when I replied suddenly in the other thread? I was hangin out on the home page and I saw someone wrote on kc,  I dropped in.

This is a bump because I constantly forget to give a look see of that livejournal page here:  >>/48527/

Recently I had the luck observing the changes of pine cones due to humidity. They close up when wet, and open as they dry. Here videos:
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Lu73owwimOU
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lu73owwimOU
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=pmjP8o9Fias
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 >>/48572/
I was surprised to see letters on the claviature, I only knew the telegraph which used Morse code. I thought the letters were "transcribed" to Morse but apparently those printing telegraphs wrote letters. Awesome.





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Three types of mushrooms here:
1. the big white-ish ones are all Macrolepiota procera
2. boletes
3. the orange-pink ones are Lactarius, not sure if deliciosus or salmonicolor. They are a subspecies of russulas. We call them rizike, like Slavs do (I suspect we took the word from them, I don't think steppe people were big on mushroom pickings, you need forest people for that). I'm looking for these for years now. Well it wasn't an intense search ofc. Anyway just wandered into some on my stroll, then started to look for more and for boletes too.
All of the above are tasty mushrooms, procera is better than mastoidea here  >>/48932/
I found many others, made photos too. I've no idea what are they, not picked 'em. I examined some, some smelled great, pleasant mushroom smell, some smelled bad.



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Topic is picrel.
So I brought together a couple of thoughts enough for some posts about this bosnian war survival informational that is used as an authority based on a supposedly true story and posted on boards where the topic of prepping is related, such as 4chan/k and /out/.
Yesterday it was posted here  >>/rapport/36392/ and I gave my opinion it's a load of bs  >>/rapport/36399/. I was asked to elaborate on that  >>/rapport/36405/
> What parts do you see as nonsense?
Feels an honest question, which deserves a fair answer.
I made screenshots of the posts linked, because that thread approaches to bump 1000 and will get deleted.

First, important link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_population_census_in_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina


tl;dr: 
This writing isn't lifelike at all.

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And now in length, but without completeness. Maybe will add more, more likely not.

The first thing one needs to keep in mind that this is a small town of cca. 6000 people, in Bosnia, in the early '90s. It's not LA, Chicago, but not even Cleveland. They did not have many cars (I bet whole town did not have a 100, maybe not even 50), or suburbs (these towns still don't have, they are essentially suburbs as a whole). While they don't know well each other, like in a village of under 1000 souls, they know on some level. The members of each generations went to kindergarten and schools with each other. The people visited churches and mosques together. Kids played not just with those in their streets but from the other end of the town. The whole town participated in the common celebrations.

Remaining at the size of the town. He said a street they used as a market was about 5kms away. A town of 6000 people is not that long, phisically impossible, just check maps, preferrably in Eastern Europe with similar sizes. Besides why not have the market where the market was originally? In the fucking town center or adjacent? They should have some large building there too (commies were fond of building community/culture centers).
They might have a hospital, which is more like a clinic, but not hospitals. Same with cinemas. Airport? Maybe a field for an agricultural plane of the co-operative.

Different laws and practices than the US, different customs, and mindset. In the question of guns too. Like less handguns, more hun ting weapons. Although I'm not entirely sure about how things were done in Yugoslavia, but around here casual pistol and revolver ownership is not very common. I doubt they had AKs just like that, and the shotguns are the aforementioned hunting rifles, no pump-action stuff or anything the like.

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The details about the situation with the war is confusing, vague, and scanty.
He mentions that the "city" (tiny town) was "blockaded" and that the "enemy" held the suburbs around so they couldn't get into the woods to get firewood. And that they fought the "enemy" and held the town against them. But there was no army in the town. Futhermore snipers (of the "enemy"?, the gangs?) made the streets dangerous to move about.
There were situations in the Bosnian War when towns were in cauldrons, not really single towns, and the encirclements encirled military forces inside... And frankly why would an army not just move into a town? Because usually there is another army holding it against them. If they are empty of such, tiny groups of unorganized men won't hold it.
Maybe it happened in times of cease fire, because there were long pauses in the war. Time spent at the table negotiating. In the country, on the field, it just meant they did not make organized offensives against each other, taking potshots and throwing couple of grenades just for kicks is another thing. So the "sniper" story might be plausible, but not able to move around, liek going to other towns because completely cut off, or incapable of gathering wood sounds bs. Similarly not having authorities organizing, offering services, like medical ones, or not having radio(! wtf?!) or news... Load of nonsense.
Reverting back to medieval times - in the sense that having tap water or constant electric supply is a thing they had to miss out on - is also likely. But I'm pretty sure they still had old style gravitational toilets in every other garden. So shitting into catholes must had been a very occasional activity.

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My greatest problem are the gangs, which tied to the issues written above. Where the fuck they came from? As I mentioned while probably wasn't that tight knit community, but they knew each other. They also held the town from a common enemy, that tend to bring communities together - if there was no army inside that is... But if they were surrounded no way to get out or get in, they couldn't come from the outside. Plus weren't the "snipers" dangerous for the gangs too (if they were of the enemy's)?
And these gangs roamed around on the whole four square kilometers of the town (or even less, since the "suburbs" apparently was occupied by the "enemy"), and raided the little communities that formed in each street?
If we accept the description we get: considering the economy consisted of the materials present at the town when the thing started, plus the little they produced in the gardens, and the American MREs how come they did not just plundered the whole town in liek a week, a month? And these gangs could live off the simple people struggling for living? Or from the MREs???
Btw the notion that Americans paradropping MREs for them every 10 days for a year is just hilarious. Maybe once or twice during the whole time if at all. What kinda participation Americans had in the Bosnian War anyway if at all? They did bomb Hungarians in Újvidék/Novi Sad during the Kosovo conflict. Thank you Uncle Sam.
The whole thing is copypasted from Fallout and stuff, liek gang activity of LA (which phenomenon is practically unknown in whole Europe).

The lamp "kerosene", his pal produced. Did he have an oil well in the basement? (Maybe it can be done from vegetable oil, or some kind of fat, I guess we could make sense as general lighting substance)

Heh, he says "some - very few - had gardens". In a town of 6000, almost every home has a garden... Back in the day everyone cultivated vegetables and fruits, it's only now that people just have a lawn. Again, this isn't the US, but early 90s Eastern Europe, Balkans. And depending on when we are in the war (did just begin or it goes on for a few years now) everyone were trying to get by in one way or another.

Okay. I think that's about it. For now or for ever. There are other things to write. About the advices, what I found reasonable and useful, because there are some, as I wrote already.

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> If I can't (relatively) positively id a mushroom, I do not eat it.

Here's some help for that, along with a clever mushroom hunter saying 

https://grocycle.com/types-of-mushrooms/

https://grocycle.com/hedgehog-mushrooms/

https://grocycle.com/mycorrhizal-mushrooms/

https://www.mushroom-appreciation.com/mushroom-identification.html

https://www.wildfooduk.com/mushroom-guide/

https://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Edible-Mushrooms

https://www.zamnesia.com/blog-how-to-identify-different-types-of-magic-mushrooms-n1514

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> My greatest problem are the gangs, which tied to the issues written above. Where the fuck they came from


Shitty and shady people always exist in society. Conflicts like the one you mentioned are the perfect time for them to come out of hiding. That plus just regular opportunists coming in and setting up shop in the ruins of a civilization.




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We have a butifel weather this weekend, yesterday took a stroll. Spring arrived in full force, beetles, flowers, buds sprouting. Air felt very gud too.
We had great wind gusts in February, and early March. Results are shown.
Found a set of teeth. I think boar. It had to be there for a long time, the jaw feels like a fossil and not like a bone.







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some train spotting from eSwitzini, not my pictures though, I found them on a local news site. Hungarian state railways "MAV Start" have a charter train company which does offer luxury rail tours through Europe. So one of their trains passed through Switzerland.
fun fact about the wagons of the train: they are actually of Swiss origin and 2 years ago you would see them on regular service in the same train station. last picture is when they were used in Switzerland.

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Heh. Thanks for sharing, did not know about this.
> wagons of the train: they are actually of Swiss origin
Yeah, that counts as luxury on teh Hungary. Relatively recently traveled by our good old trains, felt like it's gonna fell apart any minute. At least wasn't much of a piss smell.
That is a nice art on the firs one. Fun fact 99.9% of Hungarians wouldn't recognize that three men. I couldn't without the names above em.
Mikó Imre was the Minister of Public Works and Transportation.
Baross Gábor was the same, above that he is called the Iron Minister for his development of the Hungarian railroad.
Kandó Kálmán was an engineer and inventor, he is notable for his innovation of electric railway.

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This winter I hiked one of the high peaks of the Atlantic seaboard of the Americas - so not high at all, just 2 to 3 kilometers over sea level. This was my first experience with real cold and naturally ocurring ice. The weather forecast was -1 °C and wind speeds are very high near the top. All the ice I could find would barely fill a bucket, but it was there. Several of my teammates had already conquered this mountain. I never had any doubt I could get to the top, but from everything I had heard from the veterans, it can be a very uncomfortable experience if you're careless.

Around the camp, at about two thirds of the way up, daytime temperatures were just above ideal for sunbathing, but gusts of cold air would blow randomly. When I tried to read a book, I could never settle for either the shade or direct sunlight. I also immersed my hands for a couple minutes at the ice cold water in the streams and I could feel them going numb. Not like I was scared, I touched it as much as I could without a bathing suit. Nobody here would dare to jump straight into that water, but I do know hikers with no prior experience swim in these waters sometimes. It's just a matter of dipping slowly.
Temperatures drop fast once sunlight isn't hitting directly. I was warm in my tent, but the walls were colder to the touch than the water in daytime. It was a dreadful touch. When I woke up, the whole tent was covered in frost. As was the car. We soon figured that ice was immune to cloth but could go away with water from our flasks. There was more frost on the vegetation along the way and a couple streams were frozen over bare rock near the top. It's demistifying. Natural ice is just the same material as the one in my freezer. At least I have bragging rights now.

I began the climb in full cold gear and immediately realized how much warmth physical effort provides. I had heard of it from everyone, but did not expect to face it in the first 30 minutes. I did most of the climb with a single coat and no hand or head protection. The wind forced me to cover my head in the last stretch. I think for every combination of clothes and wind speed there must be a degree of physical effort which preserves thermal balance.
At the top everyone rests to wait for the sunrise and that's when the full cold can be felt. I heard this was a miserable experience. My veteran teammates covered themselves in their blankets and stood still. I got into my full cold gear again but walked around looking for the best views. -1 °C is nowhere as bad as they say. It was uncomfortable but I could tough it out. 

The route we took was the shortest, but also the most demanding. I could still have climbed another half a kilometer above sea level without tiring myself. The best part after the views was the comraderie, stopping for short rests and sharing snacks.

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I'd make fun of you to find -1 a challange but I'm sure I would be the same in -30C. And climbing a mountain 2-3000 ms tall is not nothing. My greatest climb was from 2-300 ms to 900+. Tho I was in the Tatra as a kid and I can't recall the specifics.
In cold being wet is a real dread. Cold itself is meh, but the water just sucks the heat out of a person. So sweating has to be avoided as much as possible - but sometimes it's impossible a change of t-shirt can come in handy in case the worn one is sweated through. When I go for a walk into the woods I often take off my jacket, hat, scarf/shemagh and if I have gloves, and climb in a t-shirt and a hoodie well not counting my pants and boxers, and socks, and boots. Around -1 is an ideal temp for general hiking. No insects, no mud. But I think between +10 and -10 its okay.
A thermos full of warm tea, and a chocolate bar can also make all the difference.
I can't even imagine a first experience you had with cold and ice. Perhaps if I visited the Sahara, that would be similar environmental change.
> We soon figured that ice was immune to cloth but could go away with water from our flasks.
You mean you tried to rub the frost off the car with cloth?
> At least I have bragging rights now.
For sure. But you still have to walk on snow, and feel how it crunches under your feet, and wash your face in it.


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Sweat was the number one concern all the veterans warned me of, and I brought a spare shirt in my backpack precisely for this reason and I switched into it at the top. I managed to remain mostly dry, the strong winds were a blessing. I spent much of the descent wearing no coat at all, just relying on the sun and a constant pace to keep me warm and the wind to keep me dry. When I saw the dry vegetation and dusty roads around the camp, my instincts told me it was 30 °C, even though it was much colder. 

> You mean you tried to rub the frost off the car with cloth?
Indeed. We also figured trying to forcefully break the ice would be stupid.

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A common wisdom here that when going out people should dress layered, so they can shed or put on clothing depending on the need. They never actually tell it how to do it properly and when - because they never actually go out. But the basic truth is in there.
Supposedly wool insulates even when wet. In the past years I read wool and synthetic blends are a good pick for the first layer. I don't know I never tried, all my crap is cotton and cotton/synthetic.
> When I saw the dry vegetation and dusty roads around the camp, my instincts told me it was 30 °C, even though it was much colder.
Heh.



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