/kc/ - Krautchan

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This is more Fallout than Fallout.

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Watched the movie The Ambus/Al Kameen.
It's a recent (2021) war movie about an irl event, Emirati soldiers were ambushed by Yemeni rebels three years prior.
The scope is small. The story focuses on a handful of characters from a platoon, some other from a higher level formation, and a couple of rebels (eg. their chief and the sniper). Most of it plays in a canyon, they show bit from the camp, a corner here and there, and the command and control center.
The pace switches back and forth, the rapid chaos of the combat vs. the quiet conversations inside the MRAPs. The combat gradually escalates.
I don't think it is too realistic, but it tries to be. Equipment, weapons, and their use (I liked how the sniper was played out, the death was written poorly tho). The RPG should destroy an MRAP I think. While against tanks their value is not really in penetration (but apparently they can from certain angles).
The director is French so I'm not sure how the movie actually represents the Emirati view, or way of thinking.
The acting was not good, but passable, I've seen worse.
All in all it was cool-ish. More like a curiosity as an UAE movie, like Damascus Time (which is Iranian).

 >>/51919/
Still pretty good though. Especially if ur a spiritual/relgious type of person. Lots of things to take in.

Lots of other animes been recommended here in the past bernd.

 >>/52012/
Okay, I'm just being cheeky.

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Thanks to the NEEToes, I had the luck to watch Westworld, the 1973 movie. Then I dl'd Futureworld which is a sequel to it. Watched it as well.
They are all right, immensely different from the telly show, for they were made in the 70s. Futureworld differs from Westworld too, has different focus, they came up with new things like controlling the hosts, playing chess or boxing matches with them like some arcade game. And they added a conspiracy and mistaken identity plotline too. I think it's a step up from the first movie.
Rewatching the telly show. I forgot how awesome the first season is.

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Watched The Many Saints of Newark. A spinoff movie of the telly show Sopranos. The result is mixed.
The story follows Dickie Moltisanti (Many Saints), dad of Christopher  (his actor, Michael Imperioli narrating some of the movie) who had a great impact on Tony while he grew up. I do not think the film really  grabs this relationship, spends awfully lot of time on race riots and social justice issues instead. While the 1967 Newark riots really happened, the negro class/race struggle doesn't add any substantial to the story just takes away from the screen time. Since the movie was released in 2021 we can be 100% why this got so much focus.
Nice touch that the teenager, young adult Tony Soprano is played by Michael Gandolfini, son of James who played the role of Tony in the show. His voice helps make it believable, and one conversation with her mother, and his chat with the principal of the school (or whoever) does remind of the performance of his dad in the series, and feels authentic.
All the characters are there, Sal, Paulie, Pussy, the actors doing impressions of the originals, sometimes okay, but sometimes feel a bit forced. The character of Junior feels the most caricature like, which culminates when he suffers an accident breaking his hip while slipping. Did they really needed to recycle that? They could have spent time on creating a real enmity between him and Dickie.
Ofc the family is there, Tony's parents (I think John Bernthal does a good job as his dad, too little screentime tho) and Janice. Even the dog features, which was given away according to the mistress of Johnny (the giving away doesn't in the movie, the dog is there just for a scene). I miss the other Anthony/Tony B (played by Steve Buscemi in the show).
Ray Liotta also features in the movie, now not as a corrupt cop, but a mobster. Twice, he plays a twin.
Not sure if I'd recommend this. Even for those who are fans of The Sopranos, they might find it a sacrilege and offensive. I'm okay-ish with it.

 >>/52175/
Now thinking about it Bernthal's acting lacks some of the flair of the telly show's Johnny. That Italian loudness and wide gestures and whatnot.

Now thinking that Livia manipulated Junior to kill Dickie just like she did in the show. Huh. Also she might have known that Tony went to his uncle Dickie and ask for help getting his mom on that medication. But she couldn't go that far yet.

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Watched Pearl Harbor.
Actually the title should have been Pearl Habor & The Doolitle Raid.
Another movie where a young woman waits for her two most beloved men to return from a seemingly suicide mission where one of them sacrifices himself for Ben Affleck who can return to the beloved woman.
Quite a long (almost 3 hours), patriotic movie with a meaningless sidetrack of PoC placement. Otherwise the movie copypastes themes and tropes from the afore-implied Armageddon and Catch 22. Has that typical shitty camera work and pace which characteristic to many early 2000's Hollywood movies (but perhaps the trend started in the late 90s, Armageddon is similar), like Gone in 60 Seconds.
It was released in 2001 May, the year when another Pearl Harbor level attack happened against the United States. When they had to find their resolve and strike back. Just as in the movie. What a coincidence.

2001 seen other masterpieces worth watching more, such as Pootie Tang and Freddy Got Fingered not to mention Memento and Jay and Silent Bob Strikes Back.

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Watching Saw X.
Brutal. This one horror that doesn't need jumpscares. Tho the franchise used that cheap technique, I remember.
But couple of things I don't like. For example the use of that puppet that usually was a standin, a face, for Jigsaw. It's kinda meaningless.

Watched Shelter and Find Me Guilty recently. I liked both.
Shelter is also a horror/thriller thingy. It has jumpscare-like events, sudden stuff, but it's not that bad. It has spiritual/supernatural/religious themes.
Find Me Guilty is very different, it's a comedy, but it's not the laff your ass of type. Quite unusual role from Vin Diesel.
> I'm not a gangster, I'm a gagster

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 >>/52287/
> Watching Saw X.
> Brutal.
It do be like that though

How many Saw movies are they going to keep making? There's liek 20-30 movies at this point.

> Find Me Guilty is very different, it's a comedy, but it's not the laff your ass of type. Quite unusual role from Vin Diesel.
> I'm not a gangster, I'm a gagster

What le fuck? :DDD

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Watched this very bernd movie, Lars and the New Girl


:DD
This movie so crazy. It stars Driver from the Drive movie. Everyone's just so embarrassed with Lars and everything he does. Highly recommend.

 >>/52294/
> There's liek 20-30 movies at this point.
I think this was the Xth.

Pure Win Diesel.

 >>/52295/
I have not heard about this. I might just dl it sometimes.
I'm watching some Arnie movies which I haven't watched for a long time. Less iconic less classics like Running Man this one is not good at all.

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Essentially watched all the Saw movies from I to X here  >>/52287/
Right now Spiral: From the Book of Saw is rolling, about halfway through. Was published in 2021 and it is as woke as it legs. A female Jigsaw imitator is killing corrupt cops. Chris Rock is the main PoC hero. If I disregard this, and consider only the classic Saw themes, it's still an awful movie and the lowest point.
If we step back to Jigsaw (2017), that's like a fanfiction.
Saw X is a step up from these, for sure, and more like in the veins of the "classic" ones.
The best, ofc, is the starting movie. It has gore, but has psychological element to it, and the final twist just crowns the whole thing.
Then as the series go on, the next few movies enriches the lore by adding the stories of other participants.
It is a good series, no wonder they made so many.
And they are in the making of the next one Saw XI. Planned by 2025.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMz8CJKqUQw
This year I rewatched this Uruguayan STALKER fan film, which I hadn't seen since a couple years after release. You have to accept it for what it is, an extreme low budget effort with a limited cast of total amateurs. The acting is weak and you will feel it. It does have an atmosphere and intense action scenes. The ending is a mindfuck, which is accurate to the lore.

The making of is funny.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ma_t33T84J8
At the very beginning they explain:
> "Most of the abandoned factories and places in the urban area of Montevideo are either state property or factories that have been inactive for years. But still there were legal problems".
And then stop. I suspect a little bit of trespassing was involved.
To film a truck scene, they found a perfect lookalike parked in the street, without functioning wheels. So instead of a moving truck, they had a still truck with actors shaking back and forth.

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 >>/52299/
> Less iconic less classics like Running Man
Is that the one where he goes to mars or sumthing?

> I'm watching some Arnie movies which I haven't watched for a long time.
Oh no, bernd. The person that stars in Lars and the New Girl is actually Ryan Gosling. The same actor who was in Drive, The Notebook, and a lotta other gud moffies.

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> I'm Italy ball now

End's taking me around the world tbh

There is a new Lord of the Rings movie coming out at the end of the year. Interesting.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TVB_eWCfMV4

 >>/52327/
I'll check it out sometimes.

 >>/52339/
> Mars
That's Total Recall.

 >>/52340/
Just need to lay back in a comfy armchair.

 >>/52347/
Uh oh.
There's an animated Lord of the Rings already.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wPe6BNPUmI0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wPe6BNPUmI0
Who's the chick?

 >>/52348/
They said who she was in the trailer... Didn't you watch it?

She is Hera, the daughter of Helm Hammerhand. I don't know how much material there is for the story they are basing this on so I don't know but it's likely much of this is going to be made up.

 >>/52349/
It's anime so did not pay much mind to it.

 >>/52350/
Rude!!!
It's not really anime anyway. It's animated by a small Japanese studio(Sola Entertainment) and it's directed by Kamiyama Kenji(who directed Ghost in the Shell) but it's a New Line Cinema/WB project and the producers are western as are the writers, in fact one of the people working on this is the co-writer of the original trilogy. So basically they are just getting the Japanese to animate it because the west is incompetent.

There is an English dub version(or would the original language be English and the Japanese version be the dub? Hmm...) but I didn't really like it so I didn't post the trailer for it.

 >>/52351/
I watched it again. Why do they call Rohan Lohan? Japanese have no l sound which makes them pronounce arr of that sound as r. But Rohan is arready r. Makes no sense.

 >>/52352/
Huh. I didn't notice that but it does too.
I have heard that the Japanese R/L sound is kind of weird and it's actually something different to what our R is. Maybe that's what is happening.
But still, I rarely notice that, I didn't even notice it here until you mentioned it. 
I think the only other time I have noticed it was with Rumia in a game I played where she was pronounced Lumia, but I assumed that it was the VA having a better grasp of English and assuming that Rumia should be Lumia.

Just checking some more of his pronunciation, he pronounces all western words like that.
A cavalry guy says Rohan like Lohan as well.
Hmm. I think it is just a weird sound, I can pick it up when I replay the video at the exact point(often numerous times) where he makes the sound but just with normal watching I never notice it and I pick it up as an R instead.

Maybe you have a better ear for that kind of thing, given that you also speak an Asian language.

 >>/52353/
I think its pseudo-Japanese, and using L is forced.
Besides the l sound, I do not think they have p either.

 >>/52355/
I think you have made me go insane and now I can't tell the difference between an R and an L anymore...

It's hard to find good video examples on Youtube for this kind of thing but this has lots of foreign names so it might work.
These all sound like Ls... 
Ohh and for the first name, it might be confusing but Serval is actually Saabaru so the l/r is not where you might think, it's an example of R being replaced by B.


Japanese does have a P, I used to think so before today anyway. There are letters in Japanese that represent p sounds, though I thought there were letters that represented r sounds but now I don't know anymore. R isn't actually R, nothing is real anymore. I can't even spell real now.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9C0JPZP4WVo

 >>/52356/
> it's an example of R being replaced by B.

Ehh, I'm an idiot. That's not right. The B replaces V. R is replaced by the aa sound.

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 >>/52357/
Have to crack out Wikipee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_phonology#Consonants
No l.
And there are categories in that table of consonants which contain pairs. These I think depending on dialect or grammar could act as stand in for the other. So b could replace p. 
Also note. They have no v, but w, which sounds perhaps more like ua than a distinctive v.

 >>/52358/
I think the L/R division is very complex and not very well understood in the west and so people just use R even if it can also sound like an L.

Japanese has separate P and B letters and sounds. Here are there alphabets(well not Kanji of course that's way too massive to post).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiragana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana

You can hear it in the video I posted here  >>/52356/ if you want. The very first thing that's said in this video is koko wa Japari Parku daiyo.

V is complex, they do sort of have V sounds but they are not listed in the alphabets I posted for some reason. Victoria as in Queen Victoria is spelt ヴィクトリア with ヴ being vu, so it's vuikutoria. Weirdly enough for some reason Victoria the state in Australia in Japanese is ビクトリア,  so it's bikutoria. So that shows how the V sound in the same name can be made with different Japanese letters and sounds. I don't know why the two names are different to begin with though. 
But yeas, the V sound is pretty rare and usually replaced by a B or even an fu such as in Otto von Bismark オットー・フォン・ビスマルク. 
フォン is the von part with フ being fu and so von is spelt like fuon.

 >>/52359/
> Otto von Bismark オットー・フォン・ビスマルク.
> フォン is the von part with フ being fu and so von is spelt like fuon.
Because the German letter v fau stands for the sound f. So quite rightly the Japanese use f.
One thing that have to keep in mind, we are writing about sounds and not letters. Live speech and not written. As an Anglo you must very well know how much the two can differ.
Letters are consensus on how to represent sounds on paper (on wood, stone, steel, any recording material).

 >>/52360/
Ohh yes. Sorry I forgot about V actually being F in German... And I was also thinking in terms of English but that makes no sense as the Japanese would be translating German from German to Japanese not German from English to Japanese.

 >>/52356/
Right Yagami and Erru.

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Watched Scream (1996) then all 4 Scary Movies (starting from 2000). I did not plan on the latter, but managed to get a quadrilogy so I thought why not. Since then I learnt there is a 5th episode.
Scary Movie is essentially Scream (a spoof of it) and since Scream isn't frightening at all, I consider it a less funny and more straightforward prototype of Scary Movie, with one less plot twist. I find it fun that around the end of Scream one of the characters say "scary movie", I assume the creators of SM took that as an inspiration. Also Scary Movie took important elements from I Know What You Did Last Summer - which I plan to watch next.
The rest of the Scary Movies are parodies of various horrors and related genres. Lots of stupid shit in them but they are okay.

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 >>/52359/
It depends on your language, how you perceive the Japanese /ɺ/. It is more similar to English L than R acoustically because the English R is not tapped but a retroflex (or similar) approximant. Similar for speakers of languages which use guttural Rs. But in languages where R is tapped or trilled (the actual IPA /ɾ~r/), /ɺ/ sounds more similar to R than to L.

I'm not fully aware of all the nuances, but going into the extreme either way would come across as forced.



Regarding P, /p/ was a normal phoneme in Old Japanese, but it weakened /p/>/f/>/h/ historically. Hence also the alterations in compound words where words starting with H will change to starting with B (you should know this from sumo; a sumo stable is heya but in names it becomes the suffix -beya). However it remained /p/ when doubled (e.g. seppuku) or prenasalized (= after moraic (syllable-final) N) (no examples off the top of my head). Otherwise /p/s come from Chinese and later European loanwords.

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Rewatched the Riddick trilogy. That is Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddic, and Riddick.
I'm not a fan of Vin Diesel (those car racing movies are obnoxious as fuck) but I really like these movies.
Pitch Black is an obvious low budget - relatively low budget - but I think they did quite a good job.
Now CoR is riddickulous, that necromonger-furyan space fantasy is cringe as fuck, but I still like it, because of this. They obviously had a way larger budget (I think they had liek 4 times the money) but they still had that low budget mindset with that clumsy space epic nonsense, and this is kinda endearing. They obviously changed Riddick's background some, but we could say he just lied about himself a bit in Pitch Black. Tho I think my favourite part is the prison arc, when he "gets captured" and taken to the deep prison in that half burning half frozen hell of a planet. In fact I rewatched these three because I got remembered of this setting.
> coz it was my plan
Fun.
Last one is Riddick. It largely ditches the necromongers form the movie, and sticks a bit closer to the first film. Really good stuff, tho I hate it when they have a chat via radio/comms on the ships and they have to stop and face the two vehicles to do it. That's just dumb. But the buildup is good, how he overcomes the adversities, how he initiates and executes his plan (which is his all along), toying with the mercs. The action is all right, better than the CoR.
I think the Pitch Black ranks first due to the original-ish idea, then Riddick is the second, although all in all might be better than PB, and the Chronicles comes last for the too much cringe.
I think games were made out of these.

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 >>/52493/

Wanted to answer, but my damn browser caputed on me. Anyway, here's the second youtube link I wanted to include in the original post:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lH8mGSUwUCM

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 >>/52495/

> shin

Meant a shiv. A shank. A shivvie. A gut twister. A red ink pen.

 >>/52495/
Hmm. PB and R are the same in couple of points for sure. Centered around small group of people trapped on a hostile planet, which threatens them with a horde of killer monsters when a certain circumstance triggers. Well this is the overarching narrative in both, although in R there is a long lead in while he's struggling on the planet I really like his interactions with the pup/dog, it adds more depth to his animalistic but human dual nature like a Robinson Crusoe.
Perhaps it's a reimagination of the original story, but for me it feels different enough.
The Chronicles could have been better with more length, with more time to play out the story. Making it a true epic.

Btw they are supposedly making a new movie: Riddick: Furya planned to release next year. I'm looking forward to it.

 >>/52497/

> I'm looking forward to it.

Me too.

Just watched Alien: Romulus. Surprisingly, it was better than I anticipated. Sure was a bit formulaic and lacked Scott's visual finesse, but it was scary enough, entertaining and it knew what it is. Solid 8/10.

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Forgot the pic.

 >>/52499/
I've no faith in any Alien movies after what has been done to the franchise. They should have just stop after Aliens.

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Mom says I'm unique - so my favourite film of the series is "Alien 3". I know even Fincher doesn't think that - but I do. The only way it could've been better is one of the precious concepts with a wooden moon inhabited by 300 medieval monks.

As for the "Aliens" - it's your typical Hollywood slop. A studio taking some surprise hit and turning the sequel into some dumb popcorn movie for the biggest common denominator. In case of the "Alien" it was really tragic, because they turned the very concept upside down - instead of the titular alien, an embodiment of sadism and satanic evil, they went with the "guys, what if there'll be tons of these bastards?", turning them into just a pack of dumb beasts that a little girl can evade. "Event Horizon" is more "Alien 2" than "Aliens".

 >>/52505/
> Alien 3
That's the prison one?
> "Aliens" - it's your typical Hollywood slop
Well the ending of Sopranos feel unoriginal and lame from the distance too for many.
Event Horizon is cool. But has nothing to do with Alien. They are just going crazy.

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 >>/52506/

> That's the prison one?

Yes. They still took a lot from the "medieval" concept.

http://vincentwardfilms.com/project/concepts/alien-3/graphic-novel-in-8-parts/part-1/

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Lörs thougts on this film bernds, Álom.net?
Especially Hungarybernd, since this was actually made in the Hungary

Álom.net, also known as Dream Well, is a 2009 Hungarian romantic comedy film written and directed by Gábor N. Forgács.

> The film was panned by critics, with some considering it to be one of the worst films ever made.

 >>/52625/
Regina, the once popular girl has to make new friends at her new, conservative school. Problems arrive when she becomes enemies with Lívia, the school's queen bee, and falls in love with Márk, a musician. If these weren't enough, she decides to organize a cheerleader team. 

Álom.net was widely panned by viewers for its poor writing, acting, problems with continuity, and cultural inaccuracy, among others. 444.hu wrote that it is "the worst movie of all time, and that’s why it became a cult film".[1] Furthermore, 24.hu and Index.hu each named it the worst Hungarian film ever made,[2][3] and it gained international notoriety by becoming the lowest rated film on IMDb's Bottom 100 list in 2011.[4] British film magazine Total Film named it the fourth worst film ever made and FMC.hu included it on their list of the ten worst films ever made.[5][6] Origo called it "one of the worst Hungarian films of [the decade]"

Wiki page doesn't give a good enough description of the film

Imma post this in the movie thread on /operate/. Could be a funy joge stream :DD

 >>/52625/
> bad hungarian film
Oh god. I'm lucky I've not seen it.
Just some of the names ring a bell from the cast list.

 >>/52626/
> Could be a funy joge stream 
Perhaps.