/kc/ - Krautchan

One day I have to get around to reading the bible.
Something that I have to find out is what kind of person Jesus was regarding his ascension to the status he has.
Was he passive or even against it? Or did he flame these fuels and even encourage it or instigate it himself in which case he's just another one of these madmen.

 >>/50660/
There have been several different interpretation of the Bible throughout history, from more theological things like the nature of the trinity to material stuff like the expenses of the clergy (what we know as reformation was far from the first time that was criticized, it was merely when certain positions finally had military backing, much like what became the status quo for the Catholic Church throughout the centuries was basically what had enough financial/military backing behind it). With that said, I think one of the best ways of acquiring perspective is looking at history and how the several different currents affected politics, the economy, regular people, etc. rather than delving into theological arguments (which quite often devolved into "you just have to believe!" if you followed certain lines of thought to their ultimate consequences). There's no consensus on whether Jesus existed as a historical figure either so you'd just be wasting time with a bunch of hypotheses which are often religiously motivated (as opposed to a religion agnostic truth seeking approach, which isn't exactly common but certainly more useful).

 >>/50652/
> calling them schizos more or less showcases my opinion
Perhaps but on chans "schizo" doesn't mean much these days.
> very clearly an American phenomenon
The US churns out all kinds of weird variations of Protestants. Sometimes they find their way into Europe.
> relying too much on the support of people like that will eventually bite a politician on the butt unless he goes schizo as well,
I concur. But it isn't just politics, can be entertainment, art or even science. Let's say a youtuber has to cater to those who found his channel and comment and support, pay, and demand. And sometimes they keep the youtuber to gain followers from people with other interests and such. Or like how fans of a band will call em sellouts if they dare to play something different, or a bit more mainstream.
> stereotype of fat black American ladies screaming their hearts out at their church)
Hallelujah my broder.

There is one thread with the Bible.
But never mind. I appreciate the concern about the threads.

 >>/50654/
I only saw a segment of it before and to be honest I can't watch the whole thing. Cringing too hard.

 >>/50655/
Morals could be gained from the community, because moral exists to make the community livable. But societies are too atomized, individualized; nationalism is crippled, bastardized, and made pretty much untouchable.

 >>/50658/
> Americans deal with politics is very religious in nature
Perhaps not just Americans.

 >>/50660/
I think deciphering that from the Bible isn't easy.
What comes to mind is that he did not consider his role of the classic Messiah for sure. For the Jews the Messiah was a political character, a new king who unifies the Jews, raise them, avenge all their grievances, and makes all the goyim serve the Jews. But he came humble on the back of a donkey, not a horse, and he said give to the emperor what's his, and give to God what's his.
Perhaps his interactions with the devil could worth a look. He defeated the temptation which isn't the same as conquering the devil, or casting down or stepping on his head as said in the video:  >>/50654/

 >>/50643/
> speaking in tongues
They're completely missing the point. The Pentecost miracle described in the Acts of the Apostles was translation into real, human languages so the audience could understand. What they should see as prescriptive in it is the need for clear and convincing sermons. Gibberish nobody will understand, which is what pentecostals do, is the opposite of that. Even Paul wrote something to this effect.

 >>/50629/
You're not missing anything. It's a cess pit of faggotry.

 >>/50629/
Whenever you open the catalogue there'll be gay porn, interracial porn, tranny porn, porn of other kinds, threads reposting 4chan/twitter/tiktok/reddit, endless threads about Ukraine (even beyond the general they've created), more and more posters calling each others anons and acting like a 2008 /b/ troll, growing number of avatarfags, threads about having sex/being incel...

 >>/50663/
At least the picrel of the Ukraine general is well picked.

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 >>/50663/
 >>/50663/
Heya buddy.
I just noticed that your screencap had a thread image that very very, not good. Liek it shouldn't be posted at all bc you could get into trouble for having it? Look almost at the bottom of the image u can see what I mean

Could you try reuploading one with that "one picture" blurred out bernd pls?

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Also, reminder to any bernds in case you wanna hide a thread on kohl 

Hold the Shift key + Left click on the thread picture while catalog scrolling. That hides the thread on kohl for as long as you keep your browser open.

 >>/39020/
Well I live in bursa. 

> oghuz
Well even smaller portion of ireland is redheaded not majority. Doubt there were way too many of them.

 >>/38995/
Nice tidbit, never would have thought. I randomly picked out the Ladins, and you found a connection.

 >>/39002/
We had several noble families with Török surname (and it seems one written as Thewrewk - in this case the w is basically u like in Welsh language). One of them risen into the ranks of the high aristocracy.
It seems even the oldest gens' weren't older than the half of the 15th century which is well in the Ottoman era, them being our southern neighbour. The origins are obscure, if I had to guess at least a couple of their ancestors were ennobled for their service in the wars against the Ottomans.

 >>/38874/
> How about the people in the jungle? Could be a yet undiscovered tribe covering in the shade?
Not impossible.

 >>/38995/
Impressive in how willpower and personal charisma can shape a community. Sometimes they even form communities.

 >>/39036/
Sometimes I wonder how long could a memory of a prehistorical hero live on. Was Gilgamesh a hunter or shaman of several thousand years dead already by the time Sumers immortalized him? "Oh he was just made up by them" - we can state easily, but who knows.

I'm afraid this thread will slide off the catalog once I create the one I'm planning to so I'm bumping it and two other ones (which means the dijon mustard thread will die instead if any of the bottom threads slide off).

 >>/39017/
As many as a million people (probably 1 in 5 of the Gauls) died, another million were enslaved,[24] 300 clans were subjugated and 800 cities were destroyed during the Gallic Wars.[25] The entire population of the city of Avaricum (Bourges) (40,000 in all) were slaughtered.[26] Before Julius Caesar's campaign against the Helvetii (present-day Switzerland), the Helvetians had numbered 263,000, but afterwards only 100,000 remained, most of whom Caesar took as slaves.[27] 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul#Conquest_by_Rome

wiki is not the best source. I would think its a higher number. Fuck ceasar. And fuck rome.

 >>/39022/
I'm on the IRC right now.

 >>/39022/
If qchat doesn't work, try this:
https://b.clients.kiwiirc.com/

Here's one about the development of Monkeydonian phalanx. Randomly showed in my face by the youtube algorithm. 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OdlKvZIHgMY

I'm afraid this thread will slide off the catalog once I create the one I'm planning to so I'm bumping it and two other ones (which means the dijon mustard thread will die instead if any of the bottom threads slide off).

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> NPC calls someone idiot

classic

I think suffering can be very helpful and make you grow as a person

 >>/38980/
Amazing, you are truly gifted in the ways of rhetoric and very individual and not the 'NPC' you try to attack in that post at all.

 >>/38954/
It also looks like a plagiarized copy of the thread Swedebernd made here about Communitarianism  >>/38756/

I'm afraid this thread will slide off the catalog once I create the one I'm planning to so I'm bumping it and two other ones (which means the dijon mustard thread will die instead if any of the bottom threads slide off).

 >>/46131/
 >>/46138/
It's a common peasant bird and the sound evokes rural nostalgia for many. Most probably don't think in terms of species but are still aware of its significant differences in taste and behavior from regular chicken.
Tô-fraco is a biased interpretation because it also means "I'm weak" and onomatopoeia directly corresponding to real sentences seem to be more effective in becoming the standard, even when they're not the closest to the real sound. A famous example is the bem-te-vi:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=07LWGUcKs18

But no way it's csirp-csirp. There are a lot of othe ways to word it besides tô-fraco, but in any case you need at least two vowels.

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 >>/46129/
> Posting from a new location and now I'm suddenly a hamburger


Just had to post this

cigányútra ment = went on the gypsy way; used when gulped something into the wrong pipe and got coughing fit.

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Poste mijando no cachorro: "Lamppost peeing on the dog". An absurd, outrageous situation, an inversion of the proper moral order.

 >>/50422/
Heh, that's a good one and can be incorporated into similar Hungarian sayings. We have "the rabbit's holding the hunting rifle" or the "the canned fruit preserves the granma in the mason jar". But basically any situation - or idioms - can be transformed to create this type of saying. Liek, the "coloring book is tearing apart the retard kid" the original saying/threat is: I'm gonna tear you apart like retard kid the coloring book!
Oh, in Hungarian:
a nyúl viszi a vadászpuskát
a befőtt teszi el a nagymamát
But

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 >>/26858/

I cannot upvote your thread. What do?

 >>/50326/
Make sure to smash the like button harder. Anyway, now that you posted, lean back and wait for the gf to appear.
Reminds me there was this website with a red button in the middle of the page and could only press it.

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 >>/50326/
> I cannot upvote your thread. What do?

u gotta click on that little button on the side bernd

 >>/50327/
ebaum's world?

 >>/50355/
No. Maybe ebaums has such. But no.

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Found this in HistoryLegends video. He does not mention where he gets this. I assume at least partially he used militaryland's deployment map. If I were him I also have my own notes gathered during the whole length of the battle from anywhere basically, all the tidbits appearing in whatever news, be it a telegram channel or a large news site. But are there other sources, at least one that gives an approximate list like militaryland?

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Do Bernd remember the news about the Northern Hungarian officials claiming Hungary trains Ukrainian soldiers? Here:  >>/49918/
Now there are stronger voices in the media about Sweden giving Gripen's to Ukraine. They have several advantages, they are small, fine with short runways, ain't worse then the rest (they fared well in some exercise in 2006), can be used in couple of roles. The Swedes also curious about if they could match what the Russians have.
https://min.news/en/military/a409faa4bc530b328f75ed6ccff23b7e.html
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/04/23/ukraines-top-guns-need-new-jets-to-win-the-war
Another notable point: Hungary has these.
And these days we also train our astronauts on them:
https://index.hu/belfold/2023/05/24/hunor-program-urhajosjeloltek-urhajos-nemzetkozi-urallomas-kapu-tibor-schlegl-adam-cserenyi-gyula-szakaly-andras/
Do we train some Ukrainian "astronauts" as well perhaps?

 >>/50292/
Also great quote from first article:
> Sweden's main purpose is to provide Ukraine with fighter jets for battlefield combat testing and to drag Russia into a protracted war.
They know Ukraine can't win. They don't want Ukraine win. They want the war the drag on, they just try to tire out Russia, like in Afghanistan. The 12 million Afghan payed dearly. But it was chiefly an asymmetric war. This one in Ukraine is a straight up meatgrinder. Casualties on Ukrainian side is highly downplayed, we speculated about this occasionally. And it's not just about the dead - both military and civilian. It's about the maimed, and all who fled the country too.

 >>/50293/
This is what this whole war is about. 
The US, after being bogged down for decades in failed wars, they decided its a better strategy to get their competitors trapped in costly wars. So now they are using ukrainians as usefull idiots/cannon fodder against russia. The same reason the US is constantly provoking China.

 >>/50294/
This is an utterly silly observation.
Plus the US is doing good what she's doing from her own viewpoint.

Am worried that the frost will kill my radishes, we have an awful shit weather nowadays. I mean it's super nice weather with much sunshine, except it's goddamn cold due to wind. I'm also hesitant to water the plants, the soil starts to get dry due to the weather, so water is needed, but it might just freeze during the night killing my plants.

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We got snow.

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Lotsa growing was done. I ate a radish today, it was still small, but it was spicy.
On picrel around the radish in the front and back rows are the onions, on the left garlic.

I'm thinking I have to start thinning the radish. They take up space from each other.

 >>/50205/
ya gotta plan your garden time out before doing it bernd

 >>/50163/
Well I am going based on the video, specifically where he said “Hitler was an idiot, Stalin was a genius, Stalin played Hitler with Barbarossa”

How can any of that be true?  Barbarossa was one of the worst military disasters in world history?

Suvorov does bring into account the Soviet perspective that is often forgotten in the West, but there is ample evidence on the German side that the attack was premeditated with the goal of the destruction of the USSR.

Stalin probably did have confidence that, in the event of a war, the USSR would be in Berlin by fall of 1941.  Who cares? It shows how out of touch he was, not how genius and powerful he was.

 >>/50162/
> Former GRU officer says Russia is strong and can do no wrong and their leader is the smartest man in the world
Plus Suvorov did not say that at all.
 >>/50159/
> "our mistakes are actually strengths you just don't know how strong we are fear us" line.
Neither this.
Nowhere Suvorov says getting beaten by the German at the launch of Barbarossa was part of the plan.
He clearly says the German attack collapsed all the Soviet plans. It's the other way around.

You note Crimea and Donbas and Mariupol, pulling current events into the discussion tells me you extrapolate from the current stance of Moscow, that if a plan fails they just say they did not want to achieve that - or at least what you think is the current stance of moscow.
Another problem with this that Moscow nowhere stated what they wanted with the initial attack.
They did not claimed beforehand that they wanted to capture Kiev. We, the outsiders, guess that it was in the plans (yeah, they really thought it will be like a 2nd, Crimea maybe I'll write about this too).
But they can freely claim they did not want to capture Kiev, they just wanted to distract forces from the south and such. We don't know for sure and can't know for sure.

 >>/50164/
> Stalin played Hitler with Barbarossa
This was never said by anyone.

 >>/50152/
That's a controversial subject around these parts.

Well, now that he probably isn't here, it's time to reply in more earnest. Probably will go on in a couple of posts in the following days.

First back to the previous post, just above  >>/50166/
Stalin played Hitler to get into a war with France and Great Britain. Barbarossa was an unseen event by him, it took him by surprise. Suvorov spent time on explaining this too (eg. warning from Churchill, or the sheep price index).
We have to remember in the interwar era there was no CIA to play anyone on Earth, or US based multinational giants to buy the rest. All the major powers had their independent will, which wasn't subordinated to the US master. They had their foreign politics and secret services weaving a web to catch all the others and further the cause of their own country. It wasn't a two sided game of the Cold War.
Communism had quite a few sympathizers all over the world, and recruiting agents for the SU was easy. Stalin was also a devious psychopath who played the Soviet Game of Thrones, and outsmarted all the competing Jews. Furthermore it would be a mistake to confuse the various eras of the Soviet Union, these aren't Andropov times with the lazy corruption and high level of inefficiency. 
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact not just allowed the SU to act unchecked inside the limits of the agreed border of influence, but it allowed to get into a serious war with France and GB for Germany. One of Moscow's goals was pushing Germany into that mire they expected the war to be. They calculated well the war started. But they did expect what noone expected that Germany will breeze through several countries including France. So that was a failure, they wanted the Germans to bogged down for years in the West as they did in WWI. And failing to recognize they are next are partially for the wishful thinking that the Germans are preparing the landing in Britain.
On the side note they surely observed curiously the Blitz, which had some resemblance to their Deep Operation/Battle doctrine.