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 >>/50726/
You couldn't find the other thread?
There are things I can agree on. But Islam is not an ideology, but a religion. It is exclusive since also seem to not tolerate much ideologies, or rather the ideologies have to conform to Islam.
I agree that it is mind boggling how Western enlightened, atheists are blind about Islam while bashing Christianity where they can.
Snappy description is the rise of Islam there. What a contrast with Christianity if we think about it.
Large part of the left is just namecalling and demonization, and not rational presentation of proofs.

 >>/50728/
The thing is they don't know when to tolerate when to not. If you tolerate the people who are uncivilized only loyal to their tribal and primitive affinities, tolerating them is equal to not tolerating the civilized people. 

Note that I'm not specifying any religion and ethnicity but majority of muslims are guilty from this. What's worse the actual civilized muslims who are marginalized by majority of muslims will have it worst in the west, the cowards too afraid to lash out against muzzies always pick on these kind of people. 

Which is why western countries despite have much better state structure, education and also fundings do worse than Turkey when it comes to early education. We're much better than  taming them and integrating them to higher cause. Which is why the people who got basic education in here and doing better than German-Turks, the one thing we suck is the higher education, not teaching manners. Some people are just okay with tolerating these people so they milk virtue signalling points, at this point it's a profitable business even, which sucks.

 >>/50857/
> If you tolerate the people who are uncivilized only loyal to their tribal and primitive affinities, tolerating them is equal to not tolerating the civilized people. 
Heh, true. It's really a conundrum.
> What's worse the actual civilized muslims who are marginalized by majority of muslims will have it worst in the west, the cowards too afraid to lash out against muzzies always pick on these kind of people. 
I see your point. It's easier to bully the placid than the savage.
> Which is why western countries [...] do worse than Turkey when it comes to early education.
I dunno about this. I mean I can't judge simply because I've no info any of this.



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Interesting article about some recent religious schizo movements in the US with some US-overdose moments: https://counter-currents.com/2023/07/the-ongoing-revolution-in-american-protestantism/

> There is an ongoing revolution in American Protestantism which is worth examining: the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). The NAR is an outgrowth of the Pentecostal Denomination which developed in Los Angeles during the 1906 Azuza Street Revival.  Simply put, Pentecostalism’s difference from other branches of Christianity is the theological idea that the events described in The Acts of the Apostles are prescriptive rather than descriptive. A prescriptive view of Acts means that ordinary Christian believers in the here and now can and should experience personal interactions with the Holy Spirit, as well as speaking in tongues and other miracles as described therein. Christian theology prior to this interpretation saw the events in Acts as descriptions of historical, one-time affairs.   

> The NAR’s initial concepts were developed by Charles Peter Wagner, an American missionary to Bolivia. When he returned to the United States in 1971, he popularized the concept of “spiritual warfare,” a type of conflict where humans battle unseen evil forces.     The New Apostolic Reformation also has prophets and apostles within its ranks. An apostle was — or is, according to the NAR — a person who has seen Jesus Christ after the resurrection, was — or is — commissioned by the Holy Spirit to preach the Gospel, and can perform miracles.    

> The NAR has started to influence politics, and there is no reason to believe that this movement will dissipate anytime soon. Its believers supported President Trump, and they remain convinced that the 2020 election was fraudulent. One of their members, Doug Mastriano, unsuccessfully ran for Governor of Pennsylvania in 2022. Despite his defeat, Mastriano remains in the Pennsylvania State Senate.

> Perhaps the most important thinker in the NAR is the late Darrell Fields. Although Fields looks white, he is a member of the Cherokee Nation.
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One day I have to get around to reading the bible.
Something that I have to find out is what kind of person Jesus was regarding his ascension to the status he has.
Was he passive or even against it? Or did he flame these fuels and even encourage it or instigate it himself in which case he's just another one of these madmen.

 >>/50660/
There have been several different interpretation of the Bible throughout history, from more theological things like the nature of the trinity to material stuff like the expenses of the clergy (what we know as reformation was far from the first time that was criticized, it was merely when certain positions finally had military backing, much like what became the status quo for the Catholic Church throughout the centuries was basically what had enough financial/military backing behind it). With that said, I think one of the best ways of acquiring perspective is looking at history and how the several different currents affected politics, the economy, regular people, etc. rather than delving into theological arguments (which quite often devolved into "you just have to believe!" if you followed certain lines of thought to their ultimate consequences). There's no consensus on whether Jesus existed as a historical figure either so you'd just be wasting time with a bunch of hypotheses which are often religiously motivated (as opposed to a religion agnostic truth seeking approach, which isn't exactly common but certainly more useful).

 >>/50652/
> calling them schizos more or less showcases my opinion
Perhaps but on chans "schizo" doesn't mean much these days.
> very clearly an American phenomenon
The US churns out all kinds of weird variations of Protestants. Sometimes they find their way into Europe.
> relying too much on the support of people like that will eventually bite a politician on the butt unless he goes schizo as well,
I concur. But it isn't just politics, can be entertainment, art or even science. Let's say a youtuber has to cater to those who found his channel and comment and support, pay, and demand. And sometimes they keep the youtuber to gain followers from people with other interests and such. Or like how fans of a band will call em sellouts if they dare to play something different, or a bit more mainstream.
> stereotype of fat black American ladies screaming their hearts out at their church)
Hallelujah my broder.

There is one thread with the Bible.
But never mind. I appreciate the concern about the threads.

 >>/50654/
I only saw a segment of it before and to be honest I can't watch the whole thing. Cringing too hard.

 >>/50655/
Morals could be gained from the community, because moral exists to make the community livable. But societies are too atomized, individualized; nationalism is crippled, bastardized, and made pretty much untouchable.

 >>/50658/
> Americans deal with politics is very religious in nature
Perhaps not just Americans.

 >>/50660/
I think deciphering that from the Bible isn't easy.
What comes to mind is that he did not consider his role of the classic Messiah for sure. For the Jews the Messiah was a political character, a new king who unifies the Jews, raise them, avenge all their grievances, and makes all the goyim serve the Jews. But he came humble on the back of a donkey, not a horse, and he said give to the emperor what's his, and give to God what's his.
Perhaps his interactions with the devil could worth a look. He defeated the temptation which isn't the same as conquering the devil, or casting down or stepping on his head as said in the video:  >>/50654/

 >>/50643/
> speaking in tongues
They're completely missing the point. The Pentecost miracle described in the Acts of the Apostles was translation into real, human languages so the audience could understand. What they should see as prescriptive in it is the need for clear and convincing sermons. Gibberish nobody will understand, which is what pentecostals do, is the opposite of that. Even Paul wrote something to this effect.



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 >>/50629/
Whenever you open the catalogue there'll be gay porn, interracial porn, tranny porn, porn of other kinds, threads reposting 4chan/twitter/tiktok/reddit, endless threads about Ukraine (even beyond the general they've created), more and more posters calling each others anons and acting like a 2008 /b/ troll, growing number of avatarfags, threads about having sex/being incel...






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 >>/38995/
Nice tidbit, never would have thought. I randomly picked out the Ladins, and you found a connection.

 >>/39002/
We had several noble families with Török surname (and it seems one written as Thewrewk - in this case the w is basically u like in Welsh language). One of them risen into the ranks of the high aristocracy.
It seems even the oldest gens' weren't older than the half of the 15th century which is well in the Ottoman era, them being our southern neighbour. The origins are obscure, if I had to guess at least a couple of their ancestors were ennobled for their service in the wars against the Ottomans.


 >>/39036/
Sometimes I wonder how long could a memory of a prehistorical hero live on. Was Gilgamesh a hunter or shaman of several thousand years dead already by the time Sumers immortalized him? "Oh he was just made up by them" - we can state easily, but who knows.

I'm afraid this thread will slide off the catalog once I create the one I'm planning to so I'm bumping it and two other ones (which means the dijon mustard thread will die instead if any of the bottom threads slide off).



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Why late roman army didn't reintroduce the phalanxes, I think the immobile part of army; limitanei, feodorati could  use the formation. Well if they couldn't what was the reason? 

Why were they using spears but not phalanx sarissas? Is it because of 'barbarian' influences?
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As many as a million people (probably 1 in 5 of the Gauls) died, another million were enslaved,[24] 300 clans were subjugated and 800 cities were destroyed during the Gallic Wars.[25] The entire population of the city of Avaricum (Bourges) (40,000 in all) were slaughtered.[26] Before Julius Caesar's campaign against the Helvetii (present-day Switzerland), the Helvetians had numbered 263,000, but afterwards only 100,000 remained, most of whom Caesar took as slaves.[27] 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul#Conquest_by_Rome

wiki is not the best source. I would think its a higher number. Fuck ceasar. And fuck rome.




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(1/2) I believe in Omnicidism (A similar, but distinct idea is Efilism which is against creating any life, but it can lead to Omnicidism which is why I have mentioned it) which is a moral philosophy where the most ethical course of action is the instant and painless annihilation of all life in the universe with no chance of it coming back. Of course, this is impossible for now but I am arguing it as a thought experiment, not as a pragmatic idea.

I will introduce why I believe in this by starting off with my definition of suffering. Suffering is any negative experience experienced by a sentient being. It is bad because it is everything that is bad. Suffering is good only when it prevents future suffering. Otherwise, nobody enjoys suffering because it is not suffering if it is enjoyed.

Adding onto this point, I would like to introduce Negative Utilitarianism. In this ideology, not creating suffering is valued above creating happiness/pleasure. Hard Negative Utilitarianism is a concept where not creating suffering is the only thing that matters. This relates because omnicidism is against all procreation because all procreation creates suffering. The fact that most people report being happy is irrelevant because we only need to focus on not creating suffering. You are not unethical if you do not give resources to the homeless, but you are if you decide to take resources away from them. Taking someone's life is unethical, but not creating life is not unethical. The logical conclusion of this is to prevent all life from being born, and to prevent all life from being born you must kill all life so that it does not reproduce.

On that note, you may be thinking "According to your philosophy, wouldn't murder be ethical? Shouldn't everyone kill themselves then?" to which I say no to both. Murder is unethical because it inflicts grief-related suffering on those who care about the person who was murdered. Suicide also follows, being a net negative. However, this can lead to unfortunate implications to those unloved. For example, if we kill the homeless, then people would be more stressed about becoming homeless.

Another argument is that procreation is gambling with someone's life without their consent. If you forced someone to go into a room where they would have a 90% chance of winning a large sum of money but 10% chance of getting cancer, most people would be understandably upset at you gambling with their life like that. Why would life be any different? When you give life to someone, you're risking an innocent person developing suicidal depression, being kidnapped and tortured, getting an incurable disease and much more. They may still think that their life was worth living, but why would that make it okay to let someone else suffer as much as they did?

Non-existent people cannot miss or want pleasure. By bringing someone into existence, they become a slave to their instincts, fears, and desires. Wanting to live does not mean life is good, much like wanting to drink does not mean alcoholism is good.

My final argument is that life is generally a negative sum game. It may not look like it for humans, but it is very probable that most animals suffer more in their life than not. If you want a demonstration of this, compare the suffering of an animal being eaten to the pleasure an animal gets from eating it. The suffering is much greater. Not only this, but imagine being a prey animal. Mortal terror is a very common occurrence for these.
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Name some idiomatic expressions from your language, give a literal translation and explain their meaning.

Cutucando onça com vara curta: "Poking a jaguar with a short stick". A reckless act.

Encher linguiça: "Filling sausages". Meaningless filler speech. Comparable to "padding out" or "beating around the bush".

Lei para inglês ver: "A law for Englishmen to see". In a strict sense this is the Feijó Law of November 7th 1831. It banned the slave trade but went completely unenforced, as it was passed only to appease Britain, which was pressuring the government to cease the import of Africans. Thus, at the time the law was said to be just for Englishmen to see, and the expression now applies to anything used only to maintain appearences. Comparable to "Potemkin village".

Tirar o cavalo da chuva: "Removing one's horse from the rain". A reference to 19th century etiquette: visitors left their horses exposed to the elements, expecting to leave quickly, but their hosts could offer to take their horses off the rain and leave them sheltered so they could spend more time. By some poorly understood semantic shift, this invitation came to mean giving up: you take your horse off the rain if you abandon some pretension.

A vaca foi pro brejo: "The cow went to the bog". A situation greatly worsened.

Dar nome aos bois: "Naming the oxen". Denouncing those involved in something, typically negative, or saying something important.

Boi de piranha: "Piranha ox". Sacrificing something of lesser value to save something greater, allegedly from cattle barges throwing away an older bovine into piranha-infested waters to save the rest. For that we have a more easily understood expression, dar os dedos para não perder as mãos ("giving away the fingers to save the hands"). 

Queimar a rosca: "Burning the donut". Homosex. Bolsonaro famously replied this to a homosexual on Twitter.

Terminar em pizza: "Ending up in pizza". A problem which gets left unresolved and remains in status quo, often in the context of crime and impunity. Used a lot in political corruption scandals. Supposedly in the 60s a football team celebrated a deal ending internal troubles by eating pizza together.
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 >>/46131/
 >>/46138/
It's a common peasant bird and the sound evokes rural nostalgia for many. Most probably don't think in terms of species but are still aware of its significant differences in taste and behavior from regular chicken.
Tô-fraco is a biased interpretation because it also means "I'm weak" and onomatopoeia directly corresponding to real sentences seem to be more effective in becoming the standard, even when they're not the closest to the real sound. A famous example is the bem-te-vi:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=07LWGUcKs18

But no way it's csirp-csirp. There are a lot of othe ways to word it besides tô-fraco, but in any case you need at least two vowels.




 >>/50422/
Heh, that's a good one and can be incorporated into similar Hungarian sayings. We have "the rabbit's holding the hunting rifle" or the "the canned fruit preserves the granma in the mason jar". But basically any situation - or idioms - can be transformed to create this type of saying. Liek, the "coloring book is tearing apart the retard kid" the original saying/threat is: I'm gonna tear you apart like retard kid the coloring book!
Oh, in Hungarian:
a nyúl viszi a vadászpuskát
a befőtt teszi el a nagymamát
But



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 >>/50326/
Make sure to smash the like button harder. Anyway, now that you posted, lean back and wait for the gf to appear.
Reminds me there was this website with a red button in the middle of the page and could only press it.






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Found this in HistoryLegends video. He does not mention where he gets this. I assume at least partially he used militaryland's deployment map. If I were him I also have my own notes gathered during the whole length of the battle from anywhere basically, all the tidbits appearing in whatever news, be it a telegram channel or a large news site. But are there other sources, at least one that gives an approximate list like militaryland?

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Do Bernd remember the news about the Northern Hungarian officials claiming Hungary trains Ukrainian soldiers? Here:  >>/49918/
Now there are stronger voices in the media about Sweden giving Gripen's to Ukraine. They have several advantages, they are small, fine with short runways, ain't worse then the rest (they fared well in some exercise in 2006), can be used in couple of roles. The Swedes also curious about if they could match what the Russians have.
https://min.news/en/military/a409faa4bc530b328f75ed6ccff23b7e.html
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/04/23/ukraines-top-guns-need-new-jets-to-win-the-war
Another notable point: Hungary has these.
And these days we also train our astronauts on them:
https://index.hu/belfold/2023/05/24/hunor-program-urhajosjeloltek-urhajos-nemzetkozi-urallomas-kapu-tibor-schlegl-adam-cserenyi-gyula-szakaly-andras/
Do we train some Ukrainian "astronauts" as well perhaps?

 >>/50292/
Also great quote from first article:
> Sweden's main purpose is to provide Ukraine with fighter jets for battlefield combat testing and to drag Russia into a protracted war.
They know Ukraine can't win. They don't want Ukraine win. They want the war the drag on, they just try to tire out Russia, like in Afghanistan. The 12 million Afghan payed dearly. But it was chiefly an asymmetric war. This one in Ukraine is a straight up meatgrinder. Casualties on Ukrainian side is highly downplayed, we speculated about this occasionally. And it's not just about the dead - both military and civilian. It's about the maimed, and all who fled the country too.

 >>/50293/
This is what this whole war is about. 
The US, after being bogged down for decades in failed wars, they decided its a better strategy to get their competitors trapped in costly wars. So now they are using ukrainians as usefull idiots/cannon fodder against russia. The same reason the US is constantly provoking China.




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Am worried that the frost will kill my radishes, we have an awful shit weather nowadays. I mean it's super nice weather with much sunshine, except it's goddamn cold due to wind. I'm also hesitant to water the plants, the soil starts to get dry due to the weather, so water is needed, but it might just freeze during the night killing my plants.








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